Subject: fao: Cocorioko Administrators - COMPLAINT - Re: Dr. Nahim
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 07:04:50 07/27/08 ()
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Cocorioko adminstrators:
Please advise Dr. Abdul Nahim to lay off my person. Any topic he is not happy with on this forum, written by another, he points the finger at me. Not only that, he uses language that fits him which he ascribes to my person. Whenever I use masked handles I stimulate issues and not downplay serious issues. I do not know who this quack psychiatry doc is and would implore you to please unmask people who constantly prey on others with insults. If Dr. Nahim want to insult me let him be a man and brave enough to come out of his cowardice syzgium aromaticum.
He wrote this against me when I did not participate on this forum on that day. My birthday was yesterday and was off doing anything from the night of the 24th instant. I do not have to justify my absence but it is civil to do so. The whacko Dr. nahim is one of those envious characters that have ruined the lives of so many of our people doing well outside Sierra Leone. Dr. Nahim, I am a child of God and is man enough to take on anyone without using masked handles. You succeeded in damaging the reputations of so many of our brothers and sisters - you cannot touch me. I am a genus octopus. You chop one arm another is active. you cannot mess with people like us. God is the only power that can stop my quest for truth and the upliftment of the underdogs. How many times have you lied to the police in the UK and Europe about me? How many times have you called donors to stop funding my outfits because you are jealous that you are not qualified to present that which is acceptable for funding. As the ringleader of those 'bad hearts', I will defy every move you make to detract me. It took me two bloody and painful years on the road to be where I am today and all who are so jealous of my steady progress will surely suffer in darkness. I do not see myself as a success story but as a survivor in our wounded world, which your likes have made it impossible for the weak to withstand. I am not them, your hopeless beemarks can do nothing to me. You can only stab me from the back and my back is re-enforced steel that cannot affect my focus. many a times I have encountered you and your types and they have been left on the wayside. Be man enough and show who you are - you two-faced lying hypocritical backstabber. Through your hatred for true hard working brothers and sisters, has caused distrust for all of us.
If ever, I did wrong that caused another's or my country's disgrace, I will admit that and atone for it. You only open your foul mouth thinkinbg you can damge the lives of the up and coming. You and your group need to re-check yourselves into your own clinic that you are exploiting. A punheta! Poh caraio!!
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Posted by Dr. Abdul Nahim on July 25, 2008 at 17:08:31:
In Reply to: Re: The Problem With Zainab Bangura posted by Adu conteh on July 25, 2008 at 17:04:29:
Hey chez, educated in history and "study history" are the same? Did he tell you he was speaking for the SLPP? Winston Kabia you are a disgrace. You are a mental case, Chez Winakabs Europe. You need help.
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If you are man enough - reveal who you are and then I will tell the whole world how I contributed to your existence and bluff on this forum and the world. You good-for-nothing human puke. You ungratedful wretch! Only those youy do good to who cannot continue from the good you instil in them can come back to haunt. I will make you a nasty piece of work wjhen I come to know who you are and would be too ashame to post on this forum or anywhere that may have read what I will recveal about you - you wasteman.
Subject: Re: fao: Cocorioko Administrators - COMPLAINT - Re: Dr. Nahim
From: Adu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 07:45:24 07/27/08 ()
Email Address: adu@hotmail.com
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I am wishing you a very happy birth day. I am sorry "Dr Nahim" is not thinking right to have confused me-Adu Conteh with you.
Subject: Re: fao: Cocorioko Administrators - COMPLAINT - Re: Dr. Nahim
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 08:03:16 07/27/08 ()
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Thanks Adu! Dr. nahim, for the past two years has been very derogatory towards my operson and I just believe this has to do with malaise. If he has such let him come out and show himself. If I am guilty of any wrong to him or any close kin, I will unashamedly apologise or attempt a resolve. Whenever, I label someone or go on the offensive against on, I will explain a justification for my action. This hobbo does not - he tells me I am a disgrace to/for what? He has really upset me this time and I believe he/she loves it. Just as MKK advised - do not allow them to divert your focus.
Subject: Re: fao: Cocorioko Administrators - COMPLAINT - Re: Dr. Nahim
From: Dr. Abdul Nahim
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Date Posted: 10:02:28 07/27/08 ()
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I know for sure that:
Adu Conteh=Bobsomans=Chez Winakabs=WAK
When did your other handle, Mahatma die?
When did Guinean die?
I forgot the other ten handles you have used here. keep lying to yourself that you are not Adu Conteh.
Say hi to Bobsomans for me. You are one confused dude. Go seek help now.
Subject: Re: fao: Cocorioko Administrators - COMPLAINT - Re: Dr. Nahim
From: Adu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 10:18:58 07/27/08 ()
Email Address: adu@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-45-255-9.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.45.255.9
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Dr Nahim
I don't want to glorify, by this response, what seems to me your desdain of Chez, but how can you be so sure as you stated that Adu Conteh is Chez when as I type I am the only one who knows who I am. What is it that I have written that you attributed it to Chez. I am sure this will drive you crazy because you will never know the person behind Adu Conteh. So keep on entertaining me with your ignorance.
Subject: Re: fao: Cocorioko Administrators - COMPLAINT - Re: Dr. Nahim
From: Dr. Abdul Nahim
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Date Posted: 10:22:04 07/27/08 ()
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Ok Winston Bonsomans Adu Conteh Mahatma Guinean Kabia
Subject: Re: fao: Cocorioko Administrators - COMPLAINT - Re: Dr. Nahim
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 07:21:33 07/27/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-231-21-144.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.231.21.144
Message:
Brother,as you have rightly said you ae a child of God.
He has you in a place where no human hand will ever touch you.The likes of those fellows should be ignored with the utmost contempt they deserve.What they try to do is to bring one to their gutter level.You have to stay one step ahead of the game by steadsatly refusing to be bottonholed into such mentality and remain very focused.For it has helped me a lot.I gre up in Fourah Bay,Freetown and that is where i got that valuable lesson by ignoring ignoramuses,moral degenerates,less of humans,and brain dead people.Believe me,try this you will see the difference.Once you respond to their low level attacks,you have allowed them to get you exactly where they want.
Belated congratulations for your birthday and hope you will celebrate more.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Re: fao: Cocorioko Administrators - COMPLAINT - Re: Dr. Nahim
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 07:40:46 07/27/08 ()
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Thanks MKK. It is sometimes disturbing when the same group failingly attempt to smear you. I believe this Dr. Nahim is one of these brothers we have helped to transform their lives but they themselves have failed through their greed and selfishness. I never shut my doors to even my worst detractor. My door is always open to show him that I am not like him. In my absence this hobbo has been revealing his jealousy towards me by making comments that are not called for.
You may remember the song "Coward of the County" by Kenny Rogers. See the lyrics and a link of the song below:
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ARTIST: Kenny Rogers
TITLE: Coward of the County
Lyrics and Chords
Everyone considered him
The coward of the county
He never stood one single time
To prove the county wrong
His mama named him Tommy
But folks just called him Yella
Something always told me
They were reading Tommy wrong
Now, he was only ten years old
When his daddy died in prison
And I took care of Tommy
'Cause he was my brother's son
I still recall the final words
My brother said to Tommy
"Son my life is over
But yours has just begun"
{Refrain}
Promise me son not to do the things I've done
Walk away from trouble if you can
Now, it don't mean you're weak
If you turn the other cheek
And I hope you're old enough to understand
Son, you don't have to fight to be a man
There's someone for everyone
And Tommy's love was Becky
In her arms he didn't have
To prove he was a man
One day while he was working
The Gatlin boys came calling
They took turns at Becky
And there were three of them
Tommy opened up the door
And saw his Becky crying
The torn dress, the shattered look
Was more than he could stand
He reached above the fireplace
Took down his daddy's picture
As the tears fell on his daddy's face
I heard these words again
{Refrain}
The Gatlin boys just laughed at him
When he walked into the bar room
One of them got up and met him
Half way 'cross the floor
Tommy turned around, they said
"Hey look old Yella's leaving"
But you could've heard a pin drop
When Tommy stopped and locked the door
Twenty years of crawling
Was bottled up inside him
He wasn't holdin' nothing back
He let 'em have it all
When Tommy left the bar room
Not a Gatlin boy was standing
He said, "This one's for Becky"
As he watched the last one fall
And I heard him say
I promised you dad not to do the things you've done
I'll walk away from trouble when I can
Now please don't think I'm weak
I couldn't turn the other cheek
Papa, I sure hope you understand
Sometimes you gotta fight when you're a man
Everyone considered him the coward of the county
Subject: Koroma keep winning and winning
From: Hashim Daboh
To: All
Date Posted: 05:09:00 07/27/08 ()
Email Address: Gboyama@yahoo.co.uk
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What a travesty ,you mean APC can never hide from its melodramatic past. For awhile ,I've kept mute over this overdose of Koroma this Koroma that ,but things are getting out of hand. Whoever posted that stupid nonsense on the net is more than a boot licker. I just cannot understand the salone psyche ,what's has God wrought ,my dear leoneans . This is plain and simple minded sycophancy . You mean we're bound to go through this charade of koroma's irrelevant undertakings for the next four years. Bull shit !
If by any means the proprietors of this forum are involved in this kind of sheepish and silly propaganda in a vain effort to boast Koroma's moral or whatever name they intend to call it ,then we're in for a rude shock. What do koroma's arranged squash winning got to do with the tremendous weight of the cocaine saga on our nation's development and name.
when are we as a people going to learn from recent blunders of our political leaders that have cost us all s much for so little .
Shaki's APC blunder took us to the Sankoh mayhem , while Kabbah's poor vision ,and lack of political will and patriotism wrecked every regenerating effort from our foreign donors ,and now the same old APC tactics have resurfaced -sycophancy sycophancy !!. Kabs you need to utilise your influence ,education and experience to not only build for yourself a more credible political punditry status ,but also to enhance your character and integrity as a visionary and transparent citizen of salone. This your over-done praise of Koroma's achievements ( though every time i read something about his achievement ,i keep looking through the window for one) is worrying and may cause you lose lot of respect amongst some of us who had considered you not only as an elderly statesman ,but a citadel of inspiration ,hope and a moral character in our midst. Its seems to me that anything critical of Koroma in this and other forums is a personal issue for you and seemingly an anti APC endeavour. But in short ,can someone give me a precise list of Koroma's achievement since last august . I like change and indeed have, not an iota of regret for the defeat of SLPP for being terrible and callous with our national interest ,but for God's sake what difference has Koroma made since then ,besides the misuse of our scarce foreign reserve to electrify Freetown with haphazard light in a dying effort to fulfill a campaign promise of electrifying Freetown . That effort, as most of us knew before now, was silly and disastrous as the financial cost was always too much for the capital gain .
Look at the cocaine matter ,19 charged to court for varied offences much of it on bogus and silly conspiracy charges of this plane ,that plane ,that gun and that garbage. But let me leave that orgy for another day .
Ladies & gentlemen , let us stop this sheepish sycophancy of Koroma- for he has definitely done nothing worthy of praise . We as sierra leoneans should understand that any failure of national leadership ,be it APC. SLPP ,etc ,etc , is our setback . Koroma's first glaring failure is not the stupid light in Freetown ,but inclusion of elected parliamentarians into his cabinet ,and failure to declare his funny assets as promised during his rush hour for the presidency. Can Kabs pick up such issues with H.E making it an endless editorial matter until the man address us on those two campaign cardinal tools.
Above all ,and irrespective of party affiliation ,let us make our leaders understand that beside the ballot box ,there're always other consequences of their failed leaderships ,and, that critics of such leaders are all battered when ever there is a setback to national development
Just stop the sycophancy and be real, honourable and courageous. Kabs should at least learn something from Chuck Hegel- that you can still love your party but criticize its leadership when it' s failing . Where is the editorial on YENGA ,the call for transparent investigation of the cocaine saga. That Coke case nar buff, so long it involves wads of foreign currency ,the case is as dead as the dead sea ,lonta.
But lets learn to view our leaders from the national perspective rather than in that paucit, if not myopic party and regional affiliation. So stop this over blown praise for doing nothing. Lets us learn to be self critical so that history will judge us on what we did and not what we may have done . If Koroma has the gut ,then lets see what h can do to the Kabbah caboodle . But ah ! my APC , Koroma will wait till next election year to raise the matter and make it a sort of national emergency . Koroma will never truly investigate the SLPP misuse because of the secret covenant amongst them never to seize each others loot. So all that cha cha about SLPP corruption will end right at the door as the man's asset and parliamentary promise did .
kehtamia
Subject: Re: Koroma keep winning and winning
From: MUSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 08:04:34 07/27/08 ()
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Entered From: luna.hypair.net at 194.50.180.4
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Huge sums of money,time spent and human endeavour to discover electricity for the good of mankind.Most parts of the globe,electricity is a necessity and not a luxury for the privileged few.My question,Mr.Backwardness(Daboh)what is wrong if the President spent millions as you proclaimed to light Freetown and bring our people back to civilization?You are the enemy of Mother Sierra-Leone and Africa as a whole.Instead of rejoicing or applauding the effort made by the President,you engage in destructive commentary.Sierra-Leoneans are matured intellectually and they wont stoop to your missive of hatred,recklesness,greed and backwardness.Enjoy your 24hrs of electricity wheresoever you are residing but please allow your fellow Sierra-Leoneans to a taste of the same right.
Subject: Re: Koroma keep winning and winning
From: Hashim Daboh
To: All
Date Posted: 09:56:50 07/27/08 ()
Email Address: Gboyama@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: host86-164-57-51.range86-164.btcentralplus.com at 86.164.57.51
Message:
Ngor Musa , bo yusef bo put up face and walk the walk, don't be one of those wuteh buffoons we're trying to enlighten- you've always been this way no matter what the APC leadership does .
Well ,I'm sorry to hit on that sensitive issue which might be far beyond your small comprehending power. What i'm trying to say in that piece regarding electricity the Freetown electricity effort was that the Koroma strategy doesn't have a policy . He came in to woo Freetown with a non sustainable electricity strategy. simply, the cost of production was far too in excess to the efficacy of the venture. Why not secure that money and make a go for bumbuna whilst asking Sierra leoneans to sacrifice for the long term benefits compared to the short and haphazard show case of APC campaign promise .In a simpler term ,the money government and the donors have been pouring into that half baked electricity was too much for the little gain. Because the effort never brought even a full twelve hours light to freetown and its environs. This is something Koroma himself and his policy wonks have concurred and have recently returned to the drawing board with full realization that they just can't cope with such funding for so little sustenance.
Mada Musa ,I know you as leppet, and you will always be Mr. leppet - never in a serious state of mind to discuss any pressing national matter with the candour and drive it deserves. All you sleep and drink is how APC can be in power for ever no matter what it can offer sierra leoneans. You know why ,because you view these issues with tribal and regional bias between temmne and mende ,,lonta. And one thing you've religiously failed to understand is that since the formation of the APC no temmne has ever led it save the Shaki - SI debacle. Your unignoring uppity can only take you to nowhere besides your tribal colony of lumpens. Get out of this party ,and regional thing and discuss salon from a wider spectrum . This SLPP/APC thing has completely blinded you to any reality whatsoever. Buck up man and be the only tribe we all should fight for - salone. You nicompoop .
kehtamia
Subject: Re: Koroma keep winning and winning
From: The Patriot
To: All
Date Posted: 06:14:48 07/27/08 ()
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Message:
There is nothing wrong ,absolutely nothing wrong, in writing that President Koroma won a squash competition. Only those who hate the President to his guts and want to hear only evil about him will have problems with such information. It is natural for the President of a country to take part in sporting competitions during his leisure time. What human being is that who does not and should not have a leisure time ? Your hatred for President Koroma made you find something wrong in the news. You blindly and stupidly linked President Koroma's winning the Squash competition with the cocaine scandal. Because a cocaine traffic that had been going on during the SLPP era got bust during the APC rule, it should bear so much on the President that he should not have a leisure time ? It should bear so much on the press that they should not write HUMAN INTEREST STORIES ?You guys are taking partisan politics to a stupid and ridiculous level.
Subject: Re: Koroma keep winning and winning
From: Kabs Kanu
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Date Posted: 06:44:37 07/27/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Thank you, Patriot. I need not say anything more.Our newspaper covers every topic because our readership includes not only people interested in politics or hard news but those who want to relax their minds or laugh at times.We have over 5 stories on the cocaine scandal on our front page alone. If people want newspapers that only hammer governments every day , they should set up their own newspapers to accomplish these purposes.
Subject: Re: Koroma keep winning and winning
From: Hashim Daboh
To: All
Date Posted: 08:42:44 07/27/08 ()
Email Address: Gboyama@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: host86-164-57-51.range86-164.btcentralplus.com at 86.164.57.51
Message:
Kabs , you're a respectable and serious mindeed man ,and should maintain that clergy status ,but the issue at hand is more than mere sending-in and sending -out .
Prior to the last General elections that ushered in Koroma and co, we all joined the bandwagon in the fight to give Tejan and his caboodle a butt kick .We undertook that in view of our patriotic allegiance to the nation and not party or region. In fact, so was the Standard Times ,Concord and the peep of Olu Gordon . Not a day passed by those papers without the battle cry to change leadership of the country . And mind you these were the same papers who hounded the AFRC/RUF coalition out of freetown ,yet they never compromised that journalistic integrity to boot-lick the SLPP caboodle. Courageously these same guys who helpd jump start the APC power drive have never wavered to cite Koroma to his numerous short comings. Check with Olu's most recent editorial ,standards opinion and editorial ,etc. And all they want to do is a patriotic service to the nation and not sing-along even when things are not what the APC and their marauders would want us to swallow.
Rico being one of the most read online journal ,should continue to match to the play and cushion up its rough edges in a continuous effort to be remembered as a giant vehicle of change and not a mere propaganda bull horn for the Koromas and the APC. Just call a spade a spade. The churlish inference of APC critics to APC haters is more than childish . What would i gain from hating Koroma ,and what would i loose from the APC providing the country with an enviable leadership, mass mobilization toward national unity, cohesion , development and growth- absolutely nothing more than accolades for the latter. You guys stop misusing this forum . our parents ,most of whom are illiterates made their contribution to the national cause by educating us all. Th onus now lie on us to improve their lot by promoting progressive enlightenment and not the divisive sectionalism our leaders and their 'bato' men promote to divide them for personal agrandissement. The average temmene man,limba and mende men consider themselves as brothers and sisters - sierra leoneans for that matter ,nothing less. But often for our parochial and redundant political gains we continue to divide them to their own detriment.
All i am asking here Rev. Kanu is that you need to give your editorials a nationalistic view with some challenging discuss on contemporary issues. Rev. please don't go down in history like Charlie boy ,you've worked too hard to carve up you current status ,don't trash it' .
In the U.S the New York Times is considered a liberal mouth piece ,but that doesn't stop its editorial from lambasting the Democrats or writing critical piece on their choices and performances. That is how journalist ,editors and publishers of NEWS should be .Some of us look up to you for guidance and candour. The yard-stick should be the upward movement from point A to B , and not from point A to -A .
kehtamia
Subject: Re: Koroma keep winning and winning
From: Hashim Daboh
To: All
Date Posted: 06:42:26 07/27/08 ()
Email Address: Gboyama@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: host86-164-57-51.range86-164.btcentralplus.com at 86.164.57.51
Message:
Yes kekeh ,you're apparently a lumpen .This is how you educated illiterates reduce matters of national urgency and importance to bare thread . Why should i hate koroma for participating in sports or whatever . But the mere fact that you went so low to infer that the cocaine wheeling dealing is an SLPP brain child tells all about your narrow mindedness . So assuming that your claim of SLPP initiation of such a nasty and debasing affair , should be honoured by APC . Oh ! you scums of the earth ,when are you going to come to terms with the reality that on national issues ,party politics should be thrown into the dustbin . Not even your stay abroad could help reduce your narcotic level of ignorance. I see why our leaders continue to treat us with levity ,oh ! God help. Man only your kind would assume that the presidency is a cult, if not a super human entity. But to some of us, its more than normal for any leader to behave normal and have fun like any human species. Playing sports is just one of those, but of what national importance should such a very normal matter matter. You guys are jokers .All you sleep and dream is party and not salone. Cee u Mr. buffoon . I am taking Koroma to task for refusing to take the Kabbah caboodle to answer questions about their unenvious past. Can you do that for me with the APC ,you scallywag .
Subject: Re: Koroma keep winning and winning
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 09:42:32 07/27/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Hashim,
Now you made yourself clear. Send me your telephone number in a private mail so we can discuss it in a better atmosphere.
Subject: Re: Koroma keep winning and winning
From: Fair Man
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Date Posted: 06:53:31 07/27/08 ()
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Hashim Daboh, I agree with the Patriot that you are just blowing unnecessary air. So because there is need to bring SLPP operatives to account for their misdeeds in power, newspapers should not write human interest stories involving the President ? What are you in particular contributing to promote the cause of accountability in Sierra Leone ? Let's talk about you. Don't tell me about others.
Subject: Is Ahmed Sesay the M.B Sesay charged?
From: BANGSO
To: All
Date Posted: 01:26:31 07/27/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I read that a Mohahmed Bashir Sesay was charged as the 10th accused. Is he Ahmed Sesay?
Subject: So...what causes a President to have soooooooooo much power?
From: Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas
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Date Posted: 22:54:04 07/26/08 ()
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Message:
State party: Sierra Leone
Date of communication: 13 and 14 October 1998 (initial submission)
The Human Rights Committee, established under article 28 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Right
Meeting on 4 November 1998,
Acting under the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and its Optional Protocol,
Referring to the cases of Gilbert Samuth Kandu-Bo, Khemalai Idrissa, Tamba Gborie, Alfred Abu Sankoh, Hassan Karim Conteh, Daniel Kobina Anderson, John Amadu Sonica Conteh, Abu Bakarr Kamara, Abdul Karim Sesay, Kula Samba, Victor L. King, and Jim Kelly Jalloh, whose communications were submitted to the Human Rights Committee under the Optional Protocol on 13 and 14 October 1998,
Recalling that the Committee's Special Rapporteur for New Communications requested the Government of Sierra Leone on 13 and 14 October 1998, under rule 86 of the Committee's rules of procedure, to stay the execution of the above mentioned persons while their communication was under consideration by the Committee,
Deeply disturbed by the information that Gilbert Samuth Kandu-Bo, Khemalai Idrissa, Tamba Gborie, Alfred Abu Sankoh, Hassan Karim Conteh, Daniel Kobina Anderson, John Amadu Sonica Conteh, Abu Bakarr Kamara, Abdul Karim Sesay, Kula Samba, Victor L. King, and Jim Kelly Jalloh were executed by firing squad outside Freetown on 19 October 1998,
Recalling that on 23 October 1998, an urgent request to provide clarifications, by 29 October 1998, about the circumstances surrounding the executions of the above named persons, was sent to the State party both through its Permanent Mission in New York and the Office of the Secretary General's Special Representative in Freetown,
Noting that no information has been received from the State party,
1. Expresses its indignation at the failure of the State party's authorities to comply with the Committee's request for interim measures of protection pursuant to rule 86 of the Committee's rules of procedure; the attitude displayed by the State party is all the more regrettable as it concerned cases involving capital punishment of which the Committee was properly seized and was competent to examine, and as it occurred in the context of the consideration of the first cases submitted to the Committee since the Optional Protocol entered into force for Sierra Leone on 23 November 1996;
2. Recalls that the State party, upon ratifying the Optional Protocol, undertook to cooperate with the Committee under the procedure, and emphasizes that the State party has failed to comply with its obligations, both under the Optional Protocol and under the Covenant;
3. Deplores the State party's failure to make available, as requested by the Committee, specific clarifications of the circumstances surrounding the executions;
4. Decides to continue the consideration of the above mentioned communications under the Optional Protocol;
5. Strongly urges the State party to ensure, by all means at its disposal, that situations similar to those surrounding the executions of the above mentioned persons do not recur; in particular, the Committee urges compliance with its rule 86 requests in other cases of a similar nature of which the Committee is seized;
6. Urges the State party to present without delay its initial report under article 40 of the Covenant, which was due on 22 November 1997, for discussion by the Committee at its 65th session in March/April 1999 and, in any event, to submit by 15 February 1999 a report, in summary form if necessary, relating in particular to the application at the present time of articles 6, 7 and 14 of the Covenant;
7. Requests the Secretary-General to bring this decision to the attention to the Government of Sierra Leone.
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*Made public by decision of the Human Rights Committee.
Subject: Sengbe's Treatise-----A novel approach
From: Redox Reaction
To: All
Date Posted: 22:49:30 07/26/08 ()
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Message:
Posted by Sengbe on July 22, 2008 at 17:12:27:
Please bear with me for a minute as I suggestively delineate the plausible mode(s)in which the funds needed for financing the development of our nation can be generated without the preponderant input of our so-called development partners to whom we shall be eternally grateful for coming to our rescue in the past.
Let me start by first asking the following question(s):
How does one effectively govern, and develop a heterogenous nation with thirteen different tribes/cultures whose population of about five million peoples is 30% literate, 70% illiterate, 50% undernourished, 78% living below the poverty level; a nation with very weak infrastructure [clean water, electricity, transportation systems are in disrepair], with a legacy of a very brutal war still persisting, and a colonial history of enslavement by these so-called development partners; a nation that is very richly endowed with natural resources that have NOT been managed properly for the benefit of the inhabitants in terms of development, and material comfort in their daily livelihoods?
To answer to this question very effectively NEW IDEAS must be conceived and debated. New thought processes must be put in place with regards to the mode(s) of governance, the generation, management, and distribution of our national wealth.
1. Governance and Politics
Presently, as is the case with many nations in Africa, our nation is governed through "pluralistic democracy" involving core regional partisanship. Apparently, this mode of governance has not really paved the way forward in terms of our development in the modern world. We seem to be at a post-independence standstill, if not worse off, relative to our development as a nation. We must therefore start to think along the lines of defacing this concept, and replacing it with a concept that closely matches our indigeneous cultural attributes, and resources, very positively. Let us strive for a nation that is lacking in political partisanship as it relates to what we now know about that concept.
To do so, we must start by replacing regional partisanship as is clearly embedded in our political participation with a system that is more culturally innate for our political governance and equitably satisfactory to all the cultures in our heterogeneous society. This perception is clearly the reason why our cultural social clubs, such as FPU, KDDA, BDA, Tegloma, Sakoma, and many others are relatively successful. [For some reason Ekutayism denotes a very bad connotation in this regard. This is not what I mean]. Please allow me to expound a little bit on this topic further:
In contrast to what the idealists might believe, we cannot uphold the whole by disintegrating the parts. We must accept the reality that SaLon consists of a hetrogeneous society. By strengthening the pockets of homogeneity in our diversity, it is quite possible that we may be in a better position to buttress the heterogeneity pertinent to the whole. Contrary to what the idealists may believe, the parts support the whole. The motivation to succeed as exemplified, and illustrated by the activities of the aforementioned social clubs is achieved through the cultural innateness focussed by members of these groups. And through the leaderships of these groups it is possible to coalesce ideas, make fruitful contributions, and enable meaningful participation by everyone interested in enhancing our national governance on a proportional footing in this new democracy.
The democracy we are currently trying to practice is very suitable for homogeneous societies based mainly on Western / Greco-Roman ideas. We must modify it in practice to encompass that which is innate in us as far as our traditional cultural attributes are concerned. From developmental, and psychological perspectives, this modification will help to accelerate the attitudinal changes needed for us to work together in uplifting our nation.
We have paid too much attention to the ideas imposed on us from afar in governing our nations in Africa, and in SaLon particularly, forgetting that we, as Africans, had viable civilizations before we allowed the "aliens" to take over. The evidence in point is readily accessible when one considers that our nations were very stable economically, and otherwise under colonial rule.[I am NOT advocating for the recolonization of African nations]. But no sooner we achieved nominal independence than the systems started to unravel. The reason for this may not be unconnected with the fact that the governors during colonial times imposed their own systems of governance on us, and we willingly or unwillingly towed the line, and swallowed the bait and the sinker. And it goes without stating the fact that the colonialists were very adept at these imposed systems, and clearly, we are not.
There is no indication in this declaration that we must totally abdicate from the systems imposed on us, but we must endeavour to inject, and infuse our indigeneities into our governance, taking the beneficial aspects of the imposed systems, and throwing out, or replacing the bad aspects in order for our development in this modern age to bear fruits.
2. Generating the funds needed to fast-forward our development
I visited this topic a few years ago on one of the forums that serves our national interests. To revisit this topic in a more cogent way, let us address the mining sector for a minute:
We are abundantly endowed with many minerals that are precious to us and the rest of the world, but we lack the ability to mine, manage, and convert these minerals into the cash flow needed for national development, instead we depend on, and allow non-indigenes to benefit from the lion's share of the cash flow, while our folks bear the brunt of the sufferings/poverty, in exchange for a mere pittance through taxation at 3-5%.
How in God's name can anyone allow a stranger to control his/her bank account, and complain to the residents of his/her home that there are no funds to make repairs to the home when a hurricane strikes, especially when the home was not insured at the time of purchase? In a similar vein, why are we lacking in generating the funds needed for our national development in the presence of the vast mineral deposits/resources we are told we are endowed with?
Forget about the diamond, gold, bauxite, etc. deposits for just a second. The rutile deposits alone should help tremendously in generating the funding finances needed to develop our country, if value is added to these mined deposits. But oh yah! we have to get 'massa' to bring his knowledge and know-how to exploit these deposits at out detriment with the collusion of our so-called leaders for a trickling pittance they use to misgovern our folks oberyanda. No wonder mama queenie wears the biggest diamonds on her crown, yet there are no diamond mines in her country of origin. How did that king from Belgium/Brussels develop that country with hardly any natural resources originating from there during colonial times? Know-how, and slave labour?
The point is, we must take control of our vast resources ourselves. If the manpower, and technology, are not now readily available to us, we must commit ourselves to the training of this manpower to at least mine these resources for sale on the open market in the short term, and in the long term train the manpower, and develop the infrastructure needed to add value to these resources.
The military must be allowed to play a key role in this effort. We must get the soldiers out of the barracks so that they can relinquish their sedentary functions under the auspices of this so-called IMATT. We must put this group of very disciplined folks to work for the nation in this regard. Afterall, they ain't goona redeem Yenga from the Guineans any time soon, are they? What good has all this expensive investment in their lot done to help the nation? Heck! they cannot even be relied upon to stop the narco-traffickers from landing near their garrison at Lungi. What then are they good? Nothing?
Let us put these soldiers to work in supervisory roles in mining, forestry, agriculture/farming, sanitation, etc., etc. And allow the Navy, with her two vessels, to supervise the fishermen, and the trawlers. The SLP can continue her internal security role. Time is being wasted while the problem of poverty lingers on.
To conclude this piece, it is my contention that if we can control and manage our natural resources adequately, ourselves, we can generate the funds needed to develop ALL the other sectors needed for nation to be considered to be a modern state, ultimately, through industrialization.
I hope I have not bored y'all.
Kind regards to one and all.
Follow Ups:
Re: A new line of thinking is in order - KLA 16:06:18 07/23/08 (1)
Re: A new line of thinking is in order - Sengbe 11:04:03 07/25/08 (0)
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Subject: Building a Nation...
From: Larry
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Date Posted: 21:31:00 07/26/08 ()
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Ladies and Gentlemen,
Recent events have brought me to thinking about the destructive nature of partisan politics, as it relates to deep patriotism. Patriotism is a love of one's country that transcends that person's enthusiasm for their political party, or for their region, or their race, or ethnic group, or tribe. It requires the willingness to put down the microphone, stop speaking, and listen. Socrates once pointed out that a person cannot learn anything if they are busy "knowing" something. Patriotism requires a willingness to listen, and to learn, and to attempt to understand.
These are lessons we need to revisit continually, because we seem willing to continually forget the point of the exercise.
This is true in Sierra Leone, the United States, and the majority of nations on the planet. We keep losing sight of the "big picture"- the points of common interest and concern that we all share, regardless of our personal and vested interests. However, the magnitude of the issues and concerns we must address dwarfs these petty and personal concerns.
The recent introduction of the cocaine trafficking problem is a case in point. The nation is being challenged; in this case, anything less than a coordinated national response to the challenge will result in the monied interests-make no mistake, the cocaine folks have money-being able to successfully divide and destroy the country. Look at the situation in Colombia. Is this what you want to see in Sierra Leone?
During the period beginning in 1996, the UNPP, having acceded to the "victory" forced upon it by circumstances, took up the role of "loyal opposition" in Parliament. This point should not be lost by the historians: having achieved a legitimate majority of legal votes, in order to persuade the NPRC to hand over power to a civilian government, the UNPP, under the leadership of Dr. John Karefa-Smart, agreed to cease the contest, avoiding the abortion of the electoral process, and delivered the government back to civilian control. This, despite the fact that the evidence was clear and provable that the UNPP candidate had won that election. That, my friends, is patriotism, a love of country so great that in the hour of one's personal political victory, a man steps aside, in order to find the best way forward for his country.
(Many of you know that I was a partisan, myself, working to help the UNPP, and Dr. Karefa-Smart-do not let this cloud your ability to draw the lesson from this latter day recounting...this man taught us ALL a lesson...like I said...THIS is patriotism...to love one's country so much that you are willing to sacrifice your personal agenda for the benefit of EVERYONE.)
Now, I ask you, Northerners, Southerners, Easterners,
and the people of Freetown, and the Western Area...are you willing to "walk your talk?" You say you love Sierra Leone...Are you willing to put down your partisanship until the electoral campaign season, and in the interim to work across party lines for the benefit of ALL Sierra Leoneans?
"We take leave of our senses en masse, and we come to our senses one at a time..." -Charles Walters
How about YOU...? Which side are you on? The APC? The SLPP?, or on the side of Sierra Leone? Your country needs you. What will it take for you to work in collaboration with your fellow citizens and in a spirit of friendship and goodwill?
In the United States, we have seen a dis-connection between the agenda of our government and the best interests of the people. Of course, the "ball is still in the air", and there are powerful interests who have a stake in this game, so John McCain is going to be able to put up a good fight. But, observe: a large number of white people are attracted to Barrack Obama, transcending generations of racial bias, to support a clearly attractive, and superior alternative to the status-quo. The battle in the US is between the large, multinational corporations vs. the small businesses and individuals. Obama's campaign doesn't depend on lobbyists' money-he's connecting directly with the individual human citizens, which has the corporate "citizens" coming to the aid of McCain. Time will tell... there are parallels and similarities between the the US and Sierra Leone...it's a question of whether individuals can look at the "big picture" and whether one will support a movement that is seeking solutions for all the people of the nation, or whether one will try to keep the benefits limited to his or her group, which is a subset of the society, at the expense of everyone else.
The stakes are high. Peace and prosperity, built from the ground up, on a sustainable basis, nurturing the development and encouragement of the most valuable national resource: the human resource, or, alternatively, the exploitation of the country, chaos, dominance by monied interests who are able to advance their interests (mostly foreigners)-there IS a distinction here between the US and Sierra Leone, but only minor-the US is rapidly losing ground to China, India, and Brazil. Meanwhile, Sierra Leone is much closer to "the edge"... the questions we all face are basically the same: how can we develop ourselves to move forward on a sustainable basis, given the costs of materials, the dynamics of international capitalism, and the consequences of not acting patriotically, as defined above. We are in the midst of a period of history that pits the multinational corporations against the nation states. As Jesus of Nazareth said, "Let those who have ears hear."
Subject: Re: Building a Nation...
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
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Date Posted: 08:42:34 07/27/08 ()
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I think our christian friends will go to church this morning with your nice sermon with ht e fundamental conviction that in our quest to build a just and egalitarian society that gives impetus to the April 27,1961 man,sacrifices will have to be borne with characteris understanding and cheerful fortitude on the part of each and every citizen because i ardently,believe,we all have something to offer to the nations socio economic,political,and cultural upliftments.
In any case your clarion call is quite in place and the rest of us citizens should just change our attitude,perception,and mentality about how we view our country.
Subject: Re: Building a Nation...
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 08:14:23 07/27/08 ()
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Thank you for this! A few of us understand this and I pray the many, who refuse to see the truth in your sense, can come to hold fervent the beuty of patriotism.
Subject: Remembering the NPFL, any lesson for Liberia and Salone?
From: Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas
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Date Posted: 21:27:37 07/26/08 ()
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The National Patriotic Front of Liberia (NPFL) was a rebel group that initiated and participated in the Liberian Civil War.
Led by Charles Taylor, a former government official who was being sought for trial on charges of corruption, the NPFL took up arms against the regime of Samuel Doe on 24 December 1989. Most NPFL fighters were originally drawn from the Gio and Mano ethnic groups of northern Liberia who were persecuted under Doe's regime.
Taylor's NPFL enjoyed the active backing of Libya, Côte d'Ivoire and Burkina Faso, especially in the early years of the war. Popular support within Liberia helped the group grow from an initial force numbering in the low hundreds to a large irregular army which occupied around 80 per cent of the country in less than a year.
NPFL efforts to capture the capital city of Monrovia were thwarted by the arrival of the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) cease-fire monitoring group, ECOMOG. They instead set up an alternative national administration (the National Patriotic Reconstruction Assembly Government - NPRAG) based in the Bong County town of Gbarnga. Taylor's authority as self-proclaimed head of the NPRAG was, however, challenged by a breakaway faction, known as the Independent National Patriotic Front of Liberia (INPFL), led by Prince Yormie Johnson, whose troops, estimated to number less than 500, rapidly gained control of parts of central Monrovia.
In late 1992, the NPFL launched 'Operation Octopus' which was repulsed by combined ECOMOG, Armed Forces of Liberia (AFL) and United Liberation Movement of Liberia for Democracy (ULIMO) forces. Another NPFL breakaway group, the National Patriotic Front of Liberia-Central Revolutionary Council (NPFL-CRC), emerged in mid-1994. Prominent figures in the faction were Sam Dokie and Tom Woewiyu, a defense chief in Taylor's alternative government. Both men cited strategic and ideological differences as the cause of their defection. Following negotiations, rebel group members occupied positions in the transitional government, but fighting continued well into early 1996.
The warring factions, including the NPFL, signed the ECOWAS-mediated Abuja Accord supplement on 17 August 1996, resulting in an immediate cessation of military hostilities.
The NPFL was estimated to have around 25,000 combatants and has orchestrated a wide range of human rights abuses including massacres, torture, kidnapping and a number of political assassinations. In addition to the war in Liberia, the rebel group sponsored Revolutionary United Front (RUF) subversion against the military government in Sierra Leone, partly as a strategy to gain control of the local trade in diamonds.
In preparation for an upcoming elections that took place in 1997, the NPFL reorganized itself into a civilian political party known as the National Patriotic Party (NPP). Charles Taylor and the NPP won the 19 July 1997 election with a substantial majority. While international observers deemed the polls administratively free and transparent, they noted that it had taken place in an atmosphere of intimidation because most voters believed that Taylor would resume the war if defeated
Subject: Politics is interesting : Did you know that ...?
From: Kabs Kanu
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Date Posted: 21:19:59 07/26/08 ()
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As Sierra Leone's political drama continues , it is worth noting that many of the present dramatis personnae were infact collegues before at Fourah Bay College.
People do not know that President Koroma, John Benjamin, John Karimu, Kanji Daramy, Souley Daramy, Ambassador Bockarie Stevens,Logus Koroma , Hindolo Trye, Pious Foray, Frank Kposowa , Kabs Kanu, Emmanuel Grant, former Bank Governor, Steven Swaray , Prof. Septimus Kai-Kai etc .etc. ....We were all buddies at one time at Fourah Bay College . We all used to do together all the things that students do together on campus, eg. sleep in the same dorms, eat in the same dining halls, share the same jokes, walk together to lectures, sit together at the Boss Stick or Lovers'Corner with girlfriends, take the students bus to town toghter, enjoy the students freshers dance together etc. etc. Those were the days when FBC was the most enjoyable college campus in the world. No set of students enjoyed college life like we did at FBC. Those were the days when life was so sweet in Sierra Leone that you did not know that there was DEATH. We had nothing to worry about. We wake up in the morning to enjoyment and go to bed at night in enjoyment.Life was too good to us in our young age.
It is very interesting that today in our 50s , we all belong to our different political persuasions, but that is what life is all about. And this also shows that politics is really interesting.
Subject: Re: Politics is interesting : Did you know that ...?
From: Mohamed Barrie
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Date Posted: 05:22:29 07/27/08 ()
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Indeed.Years after, you have francis munu,edmund koroma,gibril sacco,Mohamed Timbo and a lot more in high offices. The sad part is that these were the people demonstrating against corruption in the late 70's and early 80's.
Subject: Re: Politics is interesting : Did you know that ...?
From: Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas
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Date Posted: 21:34:53 07/26/08 ()
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"...People do not know that President Koroma, John Benjamin, John Karimu, Kanji Daramy, Souley Daramy, Ambassador Bockarie Stevens,Logus Koroma , Hindolo Trye, Pious Foray, Frank Kposowa , Kabs Kanu, Emmanuel Grant, former Bank Governor, Steven Swaray , Prof. Septimus Kai-Kai etc .etc. ....We were all buddies at one time at Fourah Bay College .
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REV. KABS-KANU:
Did I hear you say, "if you nor attend Fourah Bay college nar wata pass you so?"
Subject: BOOZE,WOMEN,CONSPIRACY,AND SAD ENDING.
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
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Date Posted: 20:52:45 07/26/08 ()
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BOOZE,
WOMEN,
BETRAYAL,
AND SAD ENDING.
The posting on Brigadier John Amadu Bangura was meant to be an academic exercise in political history.I was not expecting much to come out of it.However,it does appear that I have stumbled on a gold mine and treasury trove courtesy Kabs Kanu and “Major”Rico which I am very grateful to both of them and now infact has giving me zeal to dig dipper into the saga.
From what I gleaned in Mr.Kanu’s note,it does appear to me that Bangura was ensnared in an elaborate and complex conspiracies that was carefully orchestrated by Stevens,and methodically carried out by Regina Bangura,Ahmed Thoronka,Joseph Saidu Momoh,and Foday Sankoh.”Major” Rico’s postings inadvertently may have supplied the missing link that substantially corroborates what I have said all along in the Awareness Times as to why he Joseph Momoh not Sorie Koroma was catapulted into the presidency in November 1985 when Stevens the grand master of political chicanery extraordinary and plenipotentiary finally stepped down after seventeen years of unsound leadership,judicial intimidation,police terrorism,institutionalized kleptocracy,rapaciousness,unconstitutional behaviour,and moral failure.So,this next phase of Bangura’s failed leadership and moral failure as well is going to be viewed in wider prespective with careful eyes on all the actors.
For an army chief of staff to have some body else select your own immediate personal staff as well the essential logistical supports such as the Military assistant,the driver,and the security detail is unheard off any where in politics.
Let me give examples to help evaluate that assertion.
On December 31st,1983,Muhamadu Buhari and others came to power in Nigeria.He personally selected Major Mustapha Jokolo from the Military intelligence police to be his principal assistant.As his ADC,he was his eyes,and ears even though that selection should have been done by the Director of army duties.When he was deposed,they both fell from power.Babangida came on August 27,1985.Who did he bring along as his military assistant?Major Sambo Dasuki.When he left for further military training,he replaced by another “IBB BOY” in the person of Lt.Col.Usman Belo.When Odaka and Vatsa made their moves against,Belo put his life on the line and saved Babangida.
In Ghana,Acheampong came to power on January 13,1972,he made sure he brought Major Michel Ampofo along as his personal military assistance.
In Sierra Leone,when Stevens took over finally in 1968,his security detail included people who were very closed to him such as Kandeh Bangura,Samuel Marco Kargbo,and even a son of one of his many concubines.His drivers were people he had known and worked with while he was Mayor of Freetown .One of the I remember was or is called Sorie,last name I cannot now recall.
Sir.Banja had few military officers assigned to him but he was more comfortable with Lansana Turay who stayed with him to the end.
Now,this is what I am trying to get to.Acording to Mr.Kabs Kanu,Bangura’s driver was an alleged ‘relative’ of his supposedly wife Regina.Next on his personal staff was Foday Sankoh.Next,was the almost unheard of scenario where he was approached by officers to take over.
What I am left on the horns of dilemma to put together is where in the world has any one who touts himself as a leader whether in the armed forces or in the civilian sector seen some one else putting together your personal staff for you including the security agents?.This is the most puzzling aspect of Bangura’s leadership that I have consistently called into question.
Had Bangura demonstrated an excellent faculty for leadership,the sort of things he did that became the bane for bringing his military career to a crashing halt will never have occurred in the first place,let alone his eventual demise.
Putting aside Bangura’s unsound leadership and lack of professionalism,from the brief postings from both men,it does appear to me that Stevens had long planned to rid himself of Bangura and that all he needed was the opportunity to do so.It is my considered judgment and candid opinion,that Regina provided the window of opportunity for that scenario.Like Dr.Conteh who wanted Minah’s job so badly and went after him,Momoh too had demonstrated the inclination for thwe job so what he did was to conspire with Regina and Thoranka.I want to revisit how this elaborate plan was hatched and eventually carried.
In an apparent effort to revenge I believe,Regina probably may have told Foday Sankoh of the ins and outs of officers at Flagstaff House and Sankoh passed the information to Ahmed Thoronka who in turn passed it over to Momoh.In the pecking order of the Military echelon,Momoh was not yet the Deputy chief of staff.I believe Ambrose Patrick Genda was.Momoh succeeded Col.Sandi Bockari as Battalion Commander of the first regiment and at the time of the coup,he was a Lt.Col.The plot I figure netted Sankoh and the driver and perhaps was widen to include the security detail.If we were to believe Kabs Kanu’s version of the fact that Bangura was approached by other officers to take over,my claim that Stevens knew of the plot in advance by this theory is substantially corroborated and that explains why Stevens was able to make counter plans with Ahmed Seoku Toure for immediate reinforcement in aid of Momoh,King,and Caulker.That further explains why when Jawara led the assault on the residence.Stevens was no where near the combat zone.
The fundamental question left to grapple with is why Bangura in the first place continued to share an abode with some one who for all intent and purposes will eventual compromise his safety eventually in an apparent attempt to get even?This again is further proof of how disingenuous he was.
We then move one stage further to examine the role of Ahmed Thoranka in the entire episode.For all intent and purposes,he was very tribalistic committed to the preservation and enhancement of the Ekutay hegemonistic politics.Even though he was in the army,he had more dealings with Bambay Kamara in the police force than his colleagues in the army.Yes,Sheku Tarawalie was the army chief of staff but every body knew it was in name and not in substance as he was the real power behind the throne in the army.That brings to focus his role in the dismissal of Colonel. Lansana Mohamed Sheku Turay,the battalion commander of the first regiment along with Captain Demby and others.Col.Turay was one of the few highly disciplined professional officers who was destined for the leadership of the army but was cut short by the politics of conspiracy hatched by Ahmed Thoronka and supported by Bambay Kamara.Thank God,Col.Turay and family here in the USA doing very well,while Thoronka is six feet below the face of the earth.
In addition to the unprofessionalism and unsound leadership of John Amadu Bangura,there were forces at work who were determined to railroad him every step of the way and the indecision on his par.t not to rationalize the unintended consequences for his recklessness was the bane that undid him to his eternal regret.
In sum,both messrs Kanu and Rico by shedding more lights on the insidiousness of the conspirators that surrounded Bangura substantially corroborated my accounts of him.
Subject: Are you "right brained" or are you "left brained"?
From: Charles Curtis-Thomas, SECHN, BSN, RN,MD (Hons.), MPH
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Date Posted: 22:32:01 07/26/08 ()
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Are you "right brained" or are you "left brained"?
Posted by Charles Curtis-Thomas, SECHN, BSN, RN,MD (Hons.), MPH on July 26, 2008 at 20:30:43:
"and do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. (Rom. 12:2)
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Interesting research has been done on the cerebral lateralization of the brain. Scientists have found that the two sides of the human brain function differently from each other. The left mode is generally analytical, verbal, factual, logical, scientific, temporal, and punctual. The right mode is more visual, spatial, nonverbal, intuitive, color-conscious, emotional, nontemporal,and nonpunctual. The way we think affects many things, including our actions and our ideas about politics and religion. It is for this reason that some people "are APC, OR SLPP, or PMDC, or RUFP, or, like me, INDEPENDENT"! Some people are Catholics, or "Adegobie", or SDA, or Baptists, etc. Some people are more right-brained, others are more left-brained.
There is an old Chinese saying, "He who has imagination without learning has wings but no feet." Can you see the left and right mode function in this? "He who has imagination (R) without learning (L) has wings (R) but no feet (L)."
To be right-brained, creative, artistic, musical, and imaginative IS WONDERFUL! It's thinking the way an artist thinks. It is doing your own thing, BUT IT'S NOT EVERYTHING. A bird may fly, glide, and SOAR with its wings, but when it gets hungry, without feet he'd have a difficult time in landing and getting food. WE NEED BALANCE! BOTH SIDES ARE GOOD AND USEFUL.
NOW, LET US DO SOME DEEP THINKING HERE, and move this discussion a few notches higher. I propose that, and I am standing on both limbs here,PROOF is to the left mode what COVICTION is to the right. FACTS are to the left what FAITH is to right. If you look at the various forum postings, both groups can be readily identified. DOCTRINES, PROOF TEXTS, and LOGICAL PERSUASIONS are to the left what EXPERIENCE and EXPERIENTIAL KNOWLEDGE are to the right.
IF YOU HAD FOLLOW MY REASONING SO FAR, THEN I can hear you say, "for what did the MARTYRS DIE?" And my response is: "the FACTS, PROOF-TEXTS, DOCTRINES OF THEIR FAITH AND THEIR EXPERIENTIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST. They never would died for FACTS AND DOCTRINES ALONE! We need a balance. We need that good old disciplined training: texts, history, doctrines.
Finally, and I am exhaustive at this point, we ALSO NEED A LOVING AND AN EXCITING RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
HERE IS MY THOUGHT FOR THE WEEKEND:
"He who places himself UNRESERVEDLY under the guidance of the Holy Spirit of God will find that his mind expands and develops. He obtains an education in the service of God which is not one-sided and deficient, developing a one-sided character, but one which results in symentry and completeness".
HAVE A SAFE WEEKEND.
Subject: Re: Are you "right brained" or are you "left brained"?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 01:00:28 07/27/08 ()
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Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas, thank you for this informative post. I will try to read further into it to get more educated on the subject matter. So please spare me any ignorance, and enlighten me more because I wish to use this forum profitably not just as a talking point and a joint to meet partners as there are many avenues for that.
If my mind can serve me well, I remember your prideful reference to a doctor at your college who served as a mentor during your practice and gave you pieces of advice that gave you the impetus to strive harder. There was a balance there. You had both intrinsic and extrinsic motivation. I might not know where your intrinsic motivation was grounded however, I pride you for such equilibrium, and my only estimation is that the intrinsic motivation must have come from, cueing from majority of your writings in which you constantly make reference to God, that He must have been your pivotal strength. Presumptively, faith has been your strength.
Let me move on to the purpose of a forum to express my regret in what I see happen or not happen here. You may know that the purpose of any forum is to educate, to iron-out, to inform and be informed and ultimately to reach a resolve. As a forum, especially for long-term contributors as you and I have been, what would you say is a resolve reached here?
I have read about the functions of the brain’s hemispheres whereby, the right hemisphere controls the activities or rather functioning of the left part of the body vise versa.
This forum for instance, is a family, supposedly, of Sierra Leoneans who gear towards discussing issues affecting Sierra Leone, vis-à-vis discussing and implementing democratic practices to ensure the freedoms enjoyed in such a process, which is also the functions of the brain, which is to reach a resolve. But my question to you is, as an educated Sierra Leonean, do you see mentorship, whereby younger aspiring Sierra Leoneans receive such mentorship on this forum and if not why not? Has this forum resolved any Sierra Leonean problems?
You are a doctor whom I might work for after I graduate in December, nonetheless, would you consider the Nature/ Nurture theory sidestepped, especially Nurture, where you stated: "The way we think affects many things, including our actions and our ideas about politics and religion. It is for this reason that some people "are APC, OR SLPP, or PMDC, or RUFP, or, like me, INDEPENDENT"! Some people are Catholics, or "Adegobie", or SDA, or Baptists, etc. Some people are more right-brained, others are more left-brained."
In view of this, I am impressed upon the idea of extending this view with facts on "Cognitive development theory, theorized by Jean Piaget where he outlined the various stages of cognitive development and support my reasoning for this extension as I would not want to see it as a contradiction, based on his theory that our cognition of concept can differ from others based on our maturity or based on our reaching the Formal Operational Stage whereby, we do not rationalize based on what and how others feel about issues, issues such as race, tribe, politics, religion or associations and affiliations of variant kinds to name a few. You may aware that most Scientists or Psychologists if you will, have submitted that most people who lead democratically or stand-out in their fields and become inventors or reformers do so because they have moved more to amicably assessing, analyzing correctly, free from stereotypes, fear, hate, favoritism in order to come-up with the right judgment; because they have reached the third and more so, the fourth stage, which allows them to see wrong as being wrong and do not support it because friends and other people think such wrongs as right when it is wrong. They do not support A.P.C. or S.L.P.P. because one’s family members have been A.P.C or S.L.P.P. or because of some sentimental reasons but because one knows that A.P.C. or S.L.P.P. might be the right party that might lead for the betterment of all Sierra Leoneans, and give reasons besides the wrongs reasons or assumed reasons the whole group thinks is right. Such people who have reached the third and fourth stages of cognition look at issues for a future benefit beyond the immediate sufferings. Which is why some people like you knew that there are sacrifices to make, enabling you to ignore girls who thinks they can roll you off the bed and leave you tomorrow morning after you have spent a night without reading; knowing that you success after the sacrifice can lead you to good women. It allowed you to avoid buying an expensive car knowing that after graduation you can get a better car. You were able to see what most of your contemporaries did not see years back. But what aided you in enabling you to see issues such a way is because you have had mentors who did it and succeeded, giving you the assurance that it can be done.
Therefore, and until I read this theory, the nature and nurture theory cannot be overlooked when we discuss this new phenomenon. Please feel me in on where I might have gone wrong.
By and large, I must commend you for the effort to educate us and look forward to a detailed discussion on informative topics such as this. Thank you.
Subject: Re: BOOZE,WOMEN,CONSPIRACY,AND SAD ENDING.
From: CHIEFDOM RARAYBOYS DEM
To: All
Date Posted: 22:12:36 07/26/08 ()
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Posted by Mohamed Kutubu Koroma on July 26, 2008 at 20:52:45:
"BOOZE,
WOMEN,
BETRAYAL,
AND SAD ENDING."
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Brilliant and forceful opening remark!
Hollywood would sure like this one for their upcoming movie! Ever thought about being a screen-writer...hehehehehehehehehe!
Subject: Are you "right brained" or are you "left brained"?
From: Charles Curtis-Thomas, SECHN, BSN, RN,MD (Hons.), MPH
To: All
Date Posted: 20:30:43 07/26/08 ()
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"and do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. (Rom. 12:2)
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Interesting research has been done on the cerebral lateralization of the brain. Scientists have found that the two sides of the human brain function differently from each other. The left mode is generally analytical, verbal, factual, logical, scientific, temporal, and punctual. The right mode is more visual, spatial, nonverbal, intuitive, color-conscious, emotional, nontemporal,and nonpunctual. The way we think affects many things, including our actions and our ideas about politics and religion. It is for this reason that some people "are APC, OR SLPP, or PMDC, or RUFP, or, like me, INDEPENDENT"! Some people are Catholics, or "Adegobie", or SDA, or Baptists, etc. Some people are more right-brained, others are more left-brained.
There is an old Chinese saying, "He who has imagination without learning has wings but no feet." Can you see the left and right mode function in this? "He who has imagination (R) without learning (L) has wings (R) but no feet (L)."
To be right-brained, creative, artistic, musical, and imaginative IS WONDERFUL! It's thinking the way an artist thinks. It is doing your own thing, BUT IT'S NOT EVERYTHING. A bird may fly, glide, and SOAR with its wings, but when it gets hungry, without feet he'd have a difficult time in landing and getting food. WE NEED BALANCE! BOTH SIDES ARE GOOD AND USEFUL.
NOW, LET US DO SOME DEEP THINKING HERE, and move this discussion a few notches higher. I propose that, and I am standing on both limbs here,PROOF is to the left mode what COVICTION is to the right. FACTS are to the left what FAITH is to right. If you look at the various forum postings, both groups can be readily identified. DOCTRINES, PROOF TEXTS, and LOGICAL PERSUASIONS are to the left what EXPERIENCE and EXPERIENTIAL KNOWLEDGE are to the right.
IF YOU HAD FOLLOW MY REASONING SO FAR, THEN I can hear you say, "for what did the MARTYRS DIE?" And my response is: "the FACTS, PROOF-TEXTS, DOCTRINES OF THEIR FAITH AND THEIR EXPERIENTIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST. They never would died for FACTS AND DOCTRINES ALONE! We need a balance. We need that good old disciplined training: texts, history, doctrines.
Finally, and I am exhaustive at this point, we ALSO NEED A LOVING AND AN EXCITING RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
HERE IS MY THOUGHT FOR THE WEEKEND:
"He who places himself UNRESERVEDLY under the guidance of the Holy Spirit of God will find that his mind expands and develops. He obtains an education in the service of God which is not one-sided and deficient, developing a one-sided character, but one which results in symentry and completeness".
HAVE A SAFE WEEKEND.
Subject: Koinaduguans indirectly insulted by president Koroma?
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 20:03:08 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: sotie_jawara@yahoo.com
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It will hurt some individuals if the president says ," I know your district is the largest, but the most 'backward' in the country in terms of development ". Many cassava leaf local politicians and some Koinadugans are angered by the honest statement , they are grumbling in the corners, but they put up smiling faces each time they visit the president or senior officials at the state house. I understand the frustration and sad unfortunate situation, but did the president say anything wrong? Why are some politicians and Koinaduguans grumbling and bitter over the statement? I do not accept corner talks ; the president is playing dirty politics , degrading politicians and previous administrations. I am aware , honest statements can cause discomfort and serious differences; former president Kabbah went banana (furious) when reports about poverty in Sierra Leone kept flowing around . If you disagree and you believe the president insulted you or your district , here is the forum, let us hear from you.
Subject: "Nar dis dem call CARELESS TALK, BOBS"!
From: CHIEF IN EXILE
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Date Posted: 17:37:08 07/26/08 ()
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Me too! ..."I take great exception at the misuse of titles".(Charles Curtis-Thomas)
Posted by Jacob Kanu on July 26, 2008 at 13:24:15:
In Reply to: Solomon berewa has two tug body guards posted by DR Samuel Gbondo on July 26, 2008 at 11:07:38:
Your language is extremely poor and no one, not even Dull Cadaver or Hassan Kamara, will believe you are a doctor.
People study very hard for such titles. If you feel compelled to use the title, then I suggest you add the prefix "Pepeh" in front of the Dr.
I take great exception at the misuse of titles. Soon we will start hearing Dr Kinny Brima, Dr Eddy Grant, Dr Hassan Kamara, Dr Bonthe Pikin... well I have to concede we have heard Dr Obai Koroma...unbelievable, but true.
Please add the prefix, so that it reads, Pepeh Docta S Gbondo, or you completely remove the title. Period.
Stop being a clown - OK?
Subject: Medical Supplies
From: abk
To: All
Date Posted: 17:02:30 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: gibril16@yahoo.com
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I was very shock and disappointment at the Government of Sierraleone for their refusal to disburse the medical supplies that were sent by the Fullah Progressive Union here in Atlanta. These medical supplies was sent by the F.P.U. chapter here in Atlanta to be disbursed in Koidu and Bo. But unfortunately, the supplies are still being held by the Government for almost seven months now without any valid reason. If these medicines were being sent to Makeni and other places other than Koidu and Bo, it would have been released a long time ago. Why is the A.P.C. government so wicked to its own people? Please someone should tell the Government to release those medicines as soon as possible to the needy and for them to stop playing nasty politics. This is so disappointing. When will Sierraleone wake up?
Subject: Solomon berewa has two tug body guards
From: DR Samuel Gbondo
To: All
Date Posted: 11:07:38 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: fairgrovedevelopment@yahoo.co.uk
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Message:
why Ngo Solo is campagning with Tom njuma and Mada bio. Do they have hidden agenda or trying to intimidate the electorate.
OR
Ngo want to tell me there are no other people who can help him with his campagn?
Where is kaba kalu he was one time blue eye boy who used to make him goat parties. i think is a better choice he got all the good contracts during his time.And also kaba is a good lier and he can stay for long like c90 casette. The only thing kabba needs is a platform shoe so people can see him reads the party manifesto .
Do these two fools knows that they are not welcome in sierra leone politics.
If they want to enjoy decent politics of this country, they should brought alive all the people they murder during their hey days.
Subject: Samuel Gbondo please remove the Docta b4 ur Name
From: Jacob Kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 13:24:15 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: jacob.kanu@yahoo.com
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Message:
Your language is extremely poor and no one, not even Dull Cadaver or Hassan Kamara, will believe you are a doctor.
People study very hard for such titles. If you feel compelled to use the title, then I suggest you add the prefix "Pepeh" in front of the Dr.
I take great exception at the misuse of titles. Soon we will start hearing Dr Kinny Brima, Dr Eddy Grant, Dr Hassan Kamara, Dr Bonthe Pikin... well I have to concede we have heard Dr Obai Koroma...unbelievable, but true.
Please add the prefix, so that it reads, Pepeh Docta S Gbondo, or you completely remove the title. Period.
Stop being a clown - OK?
Subject: Me too! ..."I take great exception at the misuse of titles".
From: CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS
To: All
Date Posted: 17:28:47 07/26/08 ()
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"...I take great exception at the misuse of titles. Soon we will start hearing Dr Kinny Brima, Dr Eddy Grant, Dr Hassan Kamara, Dr Bonthe Pikin... well I have to concede we have heard Dr Obai Koroma...unbelievable, but true...".(Jacob Kanu)
Subject: Samuel Gbondo please remove the Docta b4 ur Name
From: Jacob Kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 13:20:26 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: jacob.kanu@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
Your written language is extremely poor and no one, not even Dull Cadaver or Hassan Kamara, will believe you are a doctor.
People study very hard for such titles. Except of course you want to put the prefix "Pepeh" in front of the Dr.
I take great exception at the misuse of titles. Soon we will start hearing Dr Kinny Brima, Dr Eddy Grant, Dr Hassan Kamara, Dr Bonthe Pikin... well I have to concede we have heard Dr Obai Koroma...unbelievable, but true.
Please add the prefix, so that it reads, Pepeh Docta S Gbondo, or you completely remove the title. Period.
Stop being a clown - OK?
Subject: Re: Samuel Gbondo please remove the Docta b4 ur Name
From: Professor
To: All
Date Posted: 10:12:37 07/27/08 ()
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Message:
People really do not have to work hard to earn Doctor's title.USL sells them enmasse.You can have if you are willing to pay the price.
Subject: Re: Samuel Gbondo please remove the Docta b4 ur Name
From: Hassan Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 21:22:14 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: KAMSON10@HOTMAIL.COM
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Message:
Jacob Kanu why mentioning my name on this topic?
Subject: Re: Samuel Gbondo please remove the Docta b4 ur Name
From: CHIEFDOM ELDERS
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Date Posted: 22:21:32 07/26/08 ()
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Posted by Hassan Kamara on July 26, 2008 at 21:22:14:
In Reply to: Samuel Gbondo please remove the Docta b4 ur Name posted by Jacob Kanu on July 26, 2008 at 13:20:26:
"Jacob Kanu why mentioning my name on this topic?"
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"DEE MAN DAE AFTER YOU BLOOD...PASS DEM TELL YOU"?
Subject: Re: Samuel Gbondo please remove the Docta b4 ur Name
From: zakmal
To: All
Date Posted: 14:41:32 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
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Message:
Brother Jacob please just a reminder that we also had Dr Josephine Momoh and Dr Siaka P. Stevens. I assume you would agree that we should prefix their doctorates with"pepeh" deservedly so.
Stay Blessed Brother.
Subject: Re: Samuel Gbondo please remove the Docta b4 ur Name
From: Adu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:25:53 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: adu@hotmail.con
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Message:
And now Dr Earnest Koroma. These days it would be more authentic to use your name without any title.
Subject: Re: Samuel Gbondo please remove the Docta b4 ur Name
From: Crase Dog
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Date Posted: 15:34:15 07/26/08 ()
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Message:
But Adu Conteh aka Bobsomans aka Chez Winakabs aka Winston Kabia told me that he is a member of the SLPP. He said that Kabbah ignored him so much during SLPP's tenure that he became very disgruntled.
Here is a man who posted under Adu Conteh handle saying that their party(APC) is the best and very democratic. How can you be both SLPP and APC at the same time? Is Winston Kabia aka Bobsomans aka Adu Conteh aka Chez Winakabs a water mellon? Are you looking for a job from Ernest. A sick man like you is unfit for any position in salone. You need help
Subject: Re: Samuel Gbondo please remove the Docta b4 ur Name
From: mistaken identity.
To: All
Date Posted: 15:46:07 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: two@yahoo.com
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Message:
Ha ha ha, that is the beauty of cocorioko forum. Chez or winston is not the author. I am Adu Conteh.
Subject: Re: Samuel Gbondo please remove the Docta b4 ur Name
From: Dr. Abdul Nahim
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Date Posted: 16:09:51 07/26/08 ()
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Posted by Dr. Nahim on July 25, 2008 at 08:04:45:
Hello Chez Winakabs Adu Conteh. How is life? Hehehehehehe
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Posted by Adu conteh on July 25, 2008 at 10:40:38:
In Reply to: Hi Adu Conteh posted by Dr. Nahim on July 25, 2008 at 08:04:45:
Dr Nahim,
I am ok but am dissappointed in EBK. If he does not want to sack Khemoh sesay, he can move the guy to another ministry such as education. How can Khemoh continue to hold the ministry after such scandal under his watch. I despised Ahmed Kabba as a politician but he suspended prince harding when the plane crashed that killed Togolese football supporters.
Subject: Re: Samuel Gbondo please remove the Docta b4 ur Name
From: A. Jalloh
To: All
Date Posted: 17:55:58 07/26/08 ()
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What an irrational thought. A bunch of unknowns craft an unauthorized, organize crash in to Lungi airport; the aircraft is found to be fraughted with illigal drugs; therefore, the Minister of Transport must be relived. This is madness... What will it do you to wait for an investigation? Please sir, save your crystal ball for now and let the process that is in place take it's course.
How does this compare to the Paramount helicopter crash? In this instance it was found that the helicopters continue to operate for several months after they had been deemed non-air worthy. Kabba was out of the country when this incident happen. Again, your facts are twisted. This half truth issues you guys are glowing on sure compunds our problem: :Talk first and think later. Sometimes we do not think at all".
Subject: Re: Samuel Gbondo please remove the Docta b4 ur Name
From: Dr. Abdul nahim
To: All
Date Posted: 16:08:19 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Chez Winakabs is indeed Adu Conteh. He confirmed it on this website yesterday.
Subject: Re: Samuel Gbondo please remove the Docta b4 ur Name
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 07:13:48 07/27/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Dr. Nahim, please stop your blatant jealous accusations! I was no where a computer yesterday. I have grown another year and I had to deal with that and did not come to this forum or any other. You are a true detractor and toady liar. Help you sick self and not me. My mind is way ahead of your thinking. UNDERSTAND THAT!!
Subject: Re: Samuel Gbondo please remove the Docta b4 ur Name
From: Adu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 07:06:38 07/27/08 ()
Email Address: adu@hotmail.com
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Message:
This is a puzzle for you, I swear it is not who you think, it is from the most unusual suspect. I am enjoying this.
Subject: Re: Samuel Gbondo please remove the Docta b4 ur Name
From: Dr. Abdul Nahim
To: All
Date Posted: 15:27:38 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Winston Kabia aka Chez Winakabs, go get a life. Bobsomans, Adu Conteh and all other fake handles. You get swee. Get a life, boy.
Subject: Re: Samuel Gbondo please remove the Docta b4 ur Name
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 07:17:29 07/27/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I think I will not respond to your hopelessness and uselessness. You are the people we have so much helped and now that through your 'bad heart' and mind cannot come close to me to solicit more help is resorting to namecalling and misinformation. You are indeed a sorry sod!
Subject: Zainab Bangura VS Momodu Koroma.
From: Ade Laf
To: All
Date Posted: 10:34:45 07/26/08 ()
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Message:
Posted by Shaday Williams on July 26, 2008 at 10:00:55:
In Reply to: Re: The Problem With Zainab Bangura posted by Adu Conteh on July 26, 2008 at 05:53:46:
No self respecting person should compare these two. Its a bit like comparing "Dream" and "Death".
The last time the MENSA guys checked, Momodu (a Physics graduate and holder of a Postgrad Diploma in International Relations) had one of the highest IQs in the subregion; Zhainab Bankura, a Grecko, ATP (allowed to pass grad from FBC... could not have even got her degree if there were no dark forces behind her) - was rated to have an IQ of a Form 2 student.
Oratory skilss - no contest; Momodu wins hands down
Finese and diplomatic skills - MKK is a natural diplomat, Zhain is pretty crass. MKK would lecture Zhain any day.
So Mr Adu, its Dream vs Death - not to be compared.
Subject: Re: Zainab Bangura VS Momodu Koroma.
From: Or Pa
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Date Posted: 14:47:08 07/26/08 ()
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Matter of factly I agree that Momodu is a more qualified and savvy foreign minister than Zainab Baangurah
Subject: Re: Zainab Bangura VS Momodu Koroma.
From: Adu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:18:36 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: adu@hotmail.com
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Your comparison of Zainab to momodu koroma is irrelevant, because if momodu was a successful minister his government would not have lost the support of the international community. That was one of the reason why the SLPP was booted out of power. Their secretary put the blame of their defeat on the UN. These guys are really incompetent if not mad.
Subject: Re: Zainab Bangura VS Momodu Koroma.
From: Hashim Daboh
To: All
Date Posted: 11:22:59 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: Gboyama@yahoo.co.uk
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Message:
Yes pa., the only known difference between Mehaji momodu and spooky Zainab is that Momodu is a man and Zainab is a woman. Nothing-less nothing more. Both are boot lickers ,corrupt- with the mehaji having the upper hand with state looting. Momodu like Zainab hardly publicised our problems especially yenga .My mistake!. Mehaji momodu is from the SLPP while lousy Zainab is APC and though both claim the northern connection, yet either can't win even a simple by- election in their home constituencies. The commonest similarity between the two is that both are educated but not enlightened so they lacked the most potent weapon their job desires .
Subject: Re: Zainab Bangura VS Momodu Koroma.
From: Joe Blunt
To: All
Date Posted: 12:58:46 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: joeblunt@sierratel.net
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I humbly beg to disagree. Granted both are loyal to power and do not have constituents they call their own; but please do not put them in the same bracket.
Have you ever engaged them individually? If you have, you will be left in no doubt that you are comparing oranges and apples.
Momodu is very eloquent - with great diction. He is very knowledgeable of international geopolitics and diplomacy; atypical of any top scientist (especially of Physics) that I have ever met.
The honest truth Hashim, is that Zainab in her wildest dreams can never have the intellect of Momodu. Not even 10 years of Oxbridge or Havard or Princeton or MIT can manage that… except of course a brain transplant.
She is a great person, do not get me wrong... but more suited for other roles than the Foreign Ministry. She'll make agreat Minister of: Social Welfare & Gender Affairs; Tourism & Culture; Parliamentary Affairs, or even Presidential Affairs. Not Foreign Minister please. How many people think Zainab embodies "the Sierra Leonean image"?
I do not like Momodu personally, but I am in awe of his achievements:
During his tenure, postwar Sierra Leone did not experience diplomatic embarrassments. Instead, Sierra Leone's image slowly but gradually improved. We saw a willingness of the international community to engage and help; unprecedented immediate postwar foreign investment - the Commiums & the Tigos, Sierra Rutile, several expansions and establishment of UN/IC agencies, stable exchange rate… the image of postwar Sierra Leone improved. Enter Aunty Zhainab - in only 10 months we have had the Tibet saga, the FBI cum Scotland Yard lie, a Cocaine Trafficking image that is unfortunately going to warrant unnecessary ‘cavity searches’ for traveling Sierra Leoneans.
What exactly are you comparing Bro Hashim? Apples and Oranges?
Subject: Re: Zainab Bangura VS Momodu Koroma.
From: political
To: All
Date Posted: 11:29:21 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
And interestingly they all come from the same town.
Subject: Re: Zainab Bangura VS Momodu Koroma.
From: DR Samuel Gbondo
To: All
Date Posted: 10:45:22 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: fairgrovedevelopment@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 213.249.131.10
Message:
Who are you then, please display your qualification on the web so we can see. An emmpty drum makes the loudest noice.
In first world country they dont judge you by your qulification but by your experience.
who knows momodu koroma obtained his degree by farming for his lecturers.
This is another thing to talk about momodu koroma has outlived his usefulness and he is not good for any purpose. man get your fact right
Subject: Re: Zainab Bangura VS Momodu Koroma.
From: Adu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:05:54 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: adu@hotmail.com
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Tejan Kabba was not looking for someone who can do the job and unstage him, so he has to appoint Momodu koroma whom he had groomed as an errand boy. Did momodu koroma issued any position statement about the Guinean occupation of yenga which was perhaps the most important foreign policy confrontation with Guinea during his terms as foreign minister. Whilst Zainab had achieved one or two things before appointed to the foreign ministry, momodu koroma's only experience was a bag carrier for his fulumonke mentor Tejan kabba.
Having diploma in international relation having completed a farming degree does not make momodu competent for the that position. Afterall we have people such with masters in diplomatic and international qualification., which goes to show Tejan Kabba favoured momodu koroma not for his competence but likeability. Me man, my discipline is in social svience but I know more about international relations than momodu koroma.
Subject: who made mohamed sesay a team manager
From: DR Samuel Gbondo
To: All
Date Posted: 10:13:03 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: fairgrovedevelopment@yahoo.co.uk
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The first day i heard that this bogus guy was made a TM for our country i cried foul. After strings of thought i believe that the people of sierra leone are corrupt especially the vice president.
This man has been an hopless fraudster who has been engaging in uk house mortgage fraud with his cohorts. And he quickly left uk and was appointed a team manager of an entire nation foot ball club. Does it mean the authorities of this country dont check people credentials before allocating a job to them? Oh sierra leone is finish. Now look what he has brought to the country. i wish him go with kemoh sesay and vice president and this will make sierra leone a better country.
Subject: the experiences from kabs kanu and Rico
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 08:02:34 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-231-21-144.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.231.21.144
Message:
The experiences I got from Kabs Kanu and “Major Rico”on Brigadier John Bangura in their postings.
Reading through the postings on Brigadier John Amadu Bangura,I was able to gain thoughtful insights on the reckless life style of the former chief of staff .
Of particular concern to me is how a man can surround himself with his own enemy deliberately to the extent,you provide the road map for your own demise.
The chief knew of his dicey relationship between him and his wife,yet he was naïve enough to permit his subordinates to discuss the overthrow of a government to her hearing.Was this guy not sensible enough to rationalize the fact that he opened himself to blackmail by such indiscretion?.
Take the other claim albeit I knew of it when “Rico”confirmed the fact that after the visit he was sent off with a death kiss with whisky .The man was a serial drunkard who had no business being in charge of the national security of the nation because he was a gathering threat to himself and the nation at large.
Because of he was such a compulsory and hopeless drunkard,he was totally oblivious of what obtained around him to the extent moles were planted on him everywhere.
Frankly,I just was not able to bring my self to fathom out how a man in such august position could descend to such low.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Re: the experiences from kabs kanu and Rico
From: Major Rico
To: All
Date Posted: 16:37:24 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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Kutubu,you have called me gay for defending the character of a man I knew who despite his faults was no villain as you posit.
But I believe that his last words “ to err is human and to forgive divine” and his handing over government to Stevens’ in less than two weeks of his controlling power, speaks volume of his character for God and mankind to judge.
FYI I am happily married with two children, and not homophobic like you. .but if I was gay trust me I would never be ashamed to admit that fact….
However to calibrate your apparent misguided focus, my interest remains nothing but the real truth about Sa Lone history and politics..
Fact is that it was Bangurah’s NIC and not ACRM that handed over power to APC as you claimed.
Also you wrongly accuse John Bangurah of pogrom against Mendes at the time when he was neither Commander in chief nor head of government.
I do acknowledge that Bangurah was generally deemed an inebriate but I also contend that the sojas who ratted on Bangura were perfidious plants.
So Mr.Kutubu with your rantings and cursing aside what is your point?
Subject: Post of the Week
From: Forum Researcher
To: All
Date Posted: 04:24:51 07/26/08 ()
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Kabs we all do pray and hope that Ernest succeeds. There is nothing wrong for newspapers to lean towards one government, the left or right. Afterwards, in great democracies like the UK, you have papers like the Times and Daily Telegraph are right or Tory Leaning and the Guardian left or Labour leaning. However, when it comes to issues of national importance nothing will stop them from offering constructive criticism. Personally i am not too optimistic about the prospects of mother Sierra Leone. The country is divided as ever along North-south; the same failed political and economic elite are running the show; the same "area man", "old boy", "bra law","ngor", "Ndemia", "comanneh" "korthor" sentiments is prevalent in jobs allocat1on and criminal prosecution.The abject failure to import good practice from african success stories such as Botswana and Mauritius, in my view, is another cause for pessimism. We are setting very low standards for our selves.I also believe sierra leonean leaders are often tied as most times party big wigs and fund raisers are very influential and call the shots. Could sponsoring political parties by the state be the answer? Progressive minds should dwell on this. Thank you for offering us this forum to air our views, vent our anger, disappointments, frustrations, hopes and aspirations for mother Sierra Leone. Only hope the name Sierra Leone is not a curse and might need a change. Perhaps Salone which is so common to every Sierra Leonean.
Subject: Re: Post of the Week - Yes, Our Leaders Are Tied
From: Retired Banker
To: All
Date Posted: 05:58:29 07/26/08 ()
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Researcher, I made more or less the same points in the post "Clannish Politics is Hindering Development" -- see link below.
You are right that our well-meaning leaders are constrained by clannish king-makers and 'big money' people.
It is depressing to see Ernest Koroma being criticised as "weak" just because he (wisely and patriotically) is trying to practice politics of inclusion and tolerance.
Ahmed Tejan Kabbah was similarly villified (especially within his own party) for trying to move from clannish politics to more merit-based democracy.
In addition to our challenging economic and social probems, habitual critics overlook (deliberately?) the immense task of governing such a fractious and selfish populace.
Delegations arrive almost daily from all corners of the country to make parochial demands or plead the case for their favoured brethren.
Siaka Stevens' solution was to IMPOSE inclusion in a One Party system. Do the naysayers of Kabbah and Koroma want us to return to that autocratic system?
How can ANY leader focus on developing Sierra Leone when there is so much distraction, sniping and outright undermining from entrenched clans?
A Freetown news report on the recent local elections read: "The Opposition Sierra Leone People's Party (SLPP) has swept the elections in virtually its entire South Eastern base ...
The very strong showing of the SLPP all over their strongholds including even former PMDC bastions like the Bo Shell-Mingo area, is an indication that Sierra Leone is even more sharply divided along regional lines than ever before." (See: http://news.sl/drwebsite/publish/article_20059048.shtml )
Instead of the pointless bickering that dominates this forum, people need to decide if they want to be 'Sierra Leoneans' or remain part of regional clans.
If the latter is the case, then we should stop pretending we have a national identity and start debating either a loose federation of regions or outright self-determination (as in the Balkans).
Otherwise, we might wake up one morning to discover our beloved country has disintegrated into another Somalia.
Subject: Re: Post of the Week - Yes, Our Leaders Are Tied
From: Forum Researcher
To: All
Date Posted: 10:38:09 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Retired Banker,
My apologies for not seeing your post when I was browsing the forum. You definitely make the same arguments as the forumite whose post I chose. It is only progressive guys like you who are prepared to look beyong region, tribe and clan that would be able to move Sierra Leone forward. Honestly I am tired and disappointed not only with the current breed of politicians both APC and SLPP but also with many Sierra Leoneans (a cross section on this forum) who look at every thing in Sierra Leone through the prism of ethnicity and regionalism. What a shame.
Subject: Re: Post of the Week - Yes, Our Leaders Are Tied
From: Black Jack
To: All
Date Posted: 14:39:09 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: wramsey32@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 63.164.47.194
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TO; Researcher and Banker. I agree with you both. We must UNIFY and work together to improve Mama Leone. The closed-mindedness continues and is revealed here and in Politics everyday. I hope and pray for their enlightenment. Good Day, Black Jack
Subject: Who is this " ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA"? He wanted Berewa???
From: Chief In Exile
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Date Posted: 03:55:57 07/26/08 ()
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Ernest Koroma Cannot be a Suitable Replacement for the Visionary SLPP Leadership - Alpha Saidu Bangura.
ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA ARGUES THAT THE COUNRY HAS REACHED A CRITICAL JUNCTURE AT WHICH SIERRA LEONE DESERVES COMMITTED, DISCIPLINED, AND FOCUSED LEADERSHIP. IN THAT RESPECT, HE CONTINUES, SIERRA LEONE DOES NOT NEED AN ERNEST KOROMA.
MARYLAND, SEPTEMBER 4.
SPECIAL REPORT
By: Alpha Saidu Bangura - saidubangso@aol.com
At this crucial point in our country's history we do not need Ernest Koroma as president because of the following reasons:
1. He is a direct disciple of Siaka Stevens and Jamil Sahid Mohamed (the people who destroyed our country). Siaka Stevens handed him to Jamil, who then took him to the Reliance Insurance Trust Corporation (a company jointly owned by government and Sierra Fishing Company). It was agreed by the directors that dividends from the company must be paid into the bank account of the Sierra Fishing Company, but Ernest Koroma acting in-accordance with the advise of Jamil, paid the dividend into Jamil Sahid's private account. As a reward for this wrong action, Jamil gave Ernest a huge amount of money from the funds of the Reliance Insurance Company. This clearly shows that Ernest will always be ready to put his interest above the interest of our country.
2. A large number of the people who worked with Ernest Koroma at the Reliance Insurance Company are not supporting him and his APC because they know that he does not have the leadership qualities needed to run our country.
3. Ernest Koroma does not believe in abiding by the laws governing any organization/institution he belongs to. He manipulated the APC's 1995 constitution in order for him to become the party's leader/national chairman/leader in parliament. Some loyal members of the party took him to court and the supreme court ruled that the APC must comply with its constitution. Instead of going by the ruling of the court, Ernest asked some elders of the party to appeal to the members who took him court to withdraw the cases against him. This shows that Ernest is willing to do anything out side the laws to become the leader of the APC. Sierra Leone is a country of laws therefore we need a leader who will always follow our laws.
4. He joined the APC in 1977. Since then, he has been very active in the operations of the party. He promised to take the country back to the days of his mentors (Stevens and Momoh). At the beginning of his campaign, he lied to his supporters that , he is new in the APC. We need a leader who can tell the truth at all times.
5. Ernest Koroma has no experience in a public office and has a very dangerous combination of not having a proven record and surrounding himself with people who conspired to destroy every fabric of our country's development.
I am most respectfully appealing to all the well meaning people of Sierra Leone not to vote for Ernest Koroma because he will multiple our problems. The position of president of Sierra Leone is bigger and taller than Ernest Koroma's ability to perform. VOTE BEREWA FOR PRESIDENT. VOTE FOR THE NATIONAL INTEREST AND DISCIPLINED LEADERSHIP.
Subject: Re: Who is this " ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA"? He wanted Berewa???
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 04:00:42 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
As our friend Jacob Kanu would say, Alpha Saidu Bangura is violently illiterate. Lol!
Subject: Jacob Kanu: How did you come up with this?
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 03:31:24 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
One of the worthy pen-wielders of the SLPP, Jacob Kanu, with whom I often disagree, usually comes up with those one-line zingers that are devastating in the punch they wallop. Hey Jacob, how did you come up with this : Zainab Bangura is VIOLENTLY illiterate?
If I were Zainab, I would sue!
Subject: Re: Jacob Kanu's concept of "violent illiteracy"- creative
From: Professor
To: All
Date Posted: 10:41:16 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: maribelle3@hotmail.com
Entered From: cpe-74-70-156-41.nycap.res.rr.com at 74.70.156.41
Message:
To the Smart Cavalier and others:
Actually, these two words, "violent" and "illiterate," can be brought together into a cogent new concept. Illiteracy is not merely the inability to read words and form basic grammatically correct sentences, it involves deeper lack of understanding of concepts, words, language, and their meaningful implications. Language is a rich and complex sign system, thus literacy involves the capacity for critical reflection on the range of possible meanings evoked by language, and awareness of the potential consequences flowing from words uttered. One who is functionally illiterate is analytically handicapped, blind to the rich depth of meaning and power of words.
Words do constitute acts of violence, particularly when they correspond to or cause acts of physical violence. How language and rhetoric are used is a potent form of wielding power. And when persons in positions of power and authority utter words, especially lies, that can cause harm to others, and are ignorant of the full implications of their utterances, they can rightly be called "violently illiterate."
Anti-immigrant and racist rhetoric deployed by right-wing activists in the US and elsewhere often correlates to violence perpetrated on individuals belonging to immigrant populations, actual physical violence that can be laid at the feet of people in positions of authority making careless unthinking statements. For example, George Bush's lies about "weapons of mass destruction" and terrorism in Iraq convinced most Americans to support a horrific and illegitimate war against a sovereign nation, and incited popular acts of violence against innocent Middle Easterners and Muslims in the US.
Such examples are clearly illustrative of narrow-minded, uncomprehending persons in positions of power and influence, who fail to see the violent potential of their lies, "illiterate" in the deeper sense of the term, causing violence through careless use of words. Thus the concept of "violent illiteracy," I think, is a very apt one, as careless utterances have very harmful effects in the physical realm.
Hats off to Jacob Kanu for formulating this interesting new concept.
Subject: Jacob Kanu's concept of "violent illiteracy"- (for Prof)
From: Jacob Kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 05:10:55 07/27/08 ()
Email Address: jacob.kanu@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
..when persons in positions of power and authority utter words, especially lies, that can cause harm to others, and are ignorant of the full implications of their utterances, they can rightly be called "violently illiterate." Professor
Prof, they dont call you professor for nothing. This is precisely the intended meaning. The key interpretation here is the high propensity to cause harm to others. "Violent illiteracy" is a 'superlative' of "virulent iliteracy"; the latter is more likely to harm the sufferer than others.
Examples: our incumbent Foreign Affairs Minister, AFRC's Corporal Gborie and George W could be aptly described as "violently iliterate" and forumite P.DR Sam Gbondo and Sierra Leone's JP Kobba (of yesteryears)could be described as virulently iliterate.
Subject: Jacob Kanu Exposed!
From: Taveh Gutu
To: All
Date Posted: 05:24:00 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-228-11.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.228.11
Message:
See his true cocaine colour!
Subject: HONESTLY, THIS IS NOT FROM THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 02:16:03 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
In hiding for exposing Tanzania witchdoctors
By Vicky Ntetema
BBC News
I am living in hiding after I received threats because of my undercover work exposing the threat from witchdoctors to albinos living in Tanzania.
I do not regret it, even if I am very scared.
Mine is just one life, compared to the several thousand people living with albinism in the country.
If nothing is done about this network, they could kill every albino in the country - estimates vary between 4,000 and 173,000.
This year, at least 25 people with albinism have been killed, mostly in the Lake Victoria Zone, especially the Mwanza, Shinyanga and Mara areas.
They are being killed because local witchdoctors say their body parts provide the potent ingredient for magic charms, which many local people use to bring success in business and love.
The bodies are left limbless and sometimes with a huge hole in the neck, from where blood would have been drained.
Families not only grieve because of the loss of their loved ones but are also shocked at the state in which the bodies are left by these murderers.
As if that is not enough, they have to bury their dead in the house, guard the graves on their farm and or build them with stones, metal bars and cement to prevent the killers from stealing the body parts.
Talking to chickens
So I posed as a businesswoman who wanted to get rich and "consulted" 10 witchdoctors.
The consultations included talking to a hedge and telling my problems to a chicken.
These are regarded as intermediaries between the witchdoctor, their ancestors and the spirits, or "jinns".
They used old German and English coins with holes in the middle, cowry shells, pebbles, nails, nuts and bolts, screws, crosses with the little figure representing Jesus, and beads which they would shake in a red or white cloth and throw on the ground, while incense burned from all around.
Sticky green stems or old money notes are put between pages from the Koran.
Then the witchdoctors would speak in Arabic and the local Sukuma language and translate or use an interpreter to get the message through to me.
I presented the same case to all of them and got different solutions.
The consultation fee ranged from $20 to $100 per session, with a promise of returning for a further problem-solving process.
All of them gave me different suggestions of who my enemies were - not by name but by descr1ption.
None got anything right, most importantly my true mission.
But that did not stop me from praying for my safety, as that was the only defence I had.
Ground organs
Never in my life had it occurred to me that I would one day be sitting in front of a witchdoctor, also known as sangomas or voodoo priests and priestesses.
Coming from a religious family, it was unthinkable to approach or even go near the compound of such people.
I met a registered traditional healer who uses African herbs to cure ailments in Magu, the town that shares the name with the district which is known to be the hub of sorcery.
This man condemned the way "conmen and foreign witchdoctors" lured locals into trusting them, before hiring murders to organise raids on homes of albinos just after sunset.
Two witchdoctors promised to get me a magic concoction mixed with ground albino organs. The starting price was $2,000 for the vital organs.
Another told me said that the police were among his customers and that he could make a special potion mixed with ground male and female private parts to enable people to commit armed robbery without being caught.
The encounter with witchdoctor number three was in a village called Gambusi, the most feared area in the region.
The compound had about eight huts around the outside, with a more elaborate structure in the middle.
Here a man in his forties wearing a white T-Shirt and khaki trousers with a mobile phone on his belt asked me whether I had brought a chicken.
A gang of men went round the small town where we had stayed, searching all the guest houses
"What for?" I asked.
He laughed and said that I was forgiven because he realised that I was a novice in the business.
He demanded $2 for a tiny three-week-old chicken and $3 for the fortune-telling.
I was then told to get out of the compound, face south-east, where I hail from - Dar es Salaam - spit on the bird's head, back, tail and on my hand and have a heart-to-heart talk with the chick revealing all my problems.
He asked for $200 for the consultations and said I should spend two nights there before completing the process.
But when I told him that I had only $30 he told me to go away and return when I had the full amount.
Chilling message
When I went back with other BBC colleagues, his nephew was there to receive me.
He said he knew what I wanted and said he would find me albino blood, hair, leg and palms for $2,000.
I met a registered traditional healer who uses African herbs to cure ailments in Magu, the town that shares the name with the district which is known to be the hub of sorcery.
This man condemned the way "conmen and foreign witchdoctors" lured locals into trusting them, before hiring murders to organise raids on homes of albinos just after sunset.
Two witchdoctors promised to get me a magic concoction mixed with ground albino organs. The starting price was $2,000 for the vital organs.
Another told me said that the police were among his customers and that he could make a special potion mixed with ground male and female private parts to enable people to commit armed robbery without being caught.
The encounter with witchdoctor number three was in a village called Gambusi, the most feared area in the region.
The compound had about eight huts around the outside, with a more elaborate structure in the middle.
Here a man in his forties wearing a white T-Shirt and khaki trousers with a mobile phone on his belt asked me whether I had brought a chicken.
A gang of men went round the small town where we had stayed, searching all the guest houses
"What for?" I asked.
He laughed and said that I was forgiven because he realised that I was a novice in the business.
He demanded $2 for a tiny three-week-old chicken and $3 for the fortune-telling.
I was then told to get out of the compound, face south-east, where I hail from - Dar es Salaam - spit on the bird's head, back, tail and on my hand and have a heart-to-heart talk with the chick revealing all my problems.
He asked for $200 for the consultations and said I should spend two nights there before completing the process.
But when I told him that I had only $30 he told me to go away and return when I had the full amount.
Chilling message
When I went back with other BBC colleagues, his nephew was there to receive me.
He said he knew what I wanted and said he would find me albino blood, hair, leg and palms for $2,000.
He charged me $55 for the initial consultations and asked me to return with the rest of the money.
I found the last witchdoctor in Lamadi, a tiny rural town which lies at the junction of the roads leading to Kenya and Uganda.
He charged me $100 for the first session and said he would give me the magic potion with albino and other human organs for a price.
While I was there, a man came for a consultation - the witchdoctor said he was a police officer but he was wearing civilian clothes.
However, he was made to wait until my session was over and, I later learned, told the witchdoctor that I was involved in a sting operation.
Shortly afterwards, the threatening phone calls started.
And a gang of men went round the small town of Magu, where we had briefly stayed, searching all the guest houses. Luckily, we had already moved on to the nearest city, Mwanza.
One particularly chilling message came on my mobile phone: "What have you done now? Watch your back."
The witchdoctor had boasted of working with a powerful network across East Africa, which included police officers and armed robbers.
I knew they were involved in the murder of albinos, so I was terrified.
At first, I did regret taking on this mission - especially for the sake of my family.
Had I put their lives at risk?
But then I realised that I had done the right thing.
Even if I die today, those involved will have been exposed.
Subject: Did Reverend Attend that meeting?
From: Kapri Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 02:15:15 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: Kconteh 777@yaho0.co.uk
Entered From: 53515272.cable.casema.nl at 83.81.82.114
Message:
On the 24 May 2006 when APC entourage then in opposition visited the United States, it is said a meeting was held with some supporters to strategise a way to reduce SLPP so called in-roads they had made in the North. It is said that the participant in that meeting concluded that the only way to achieve that goal was to SPREAD A MESSAGE OF HATE especially against Mendes who form the bulk of the SLPP supporters. These way old wounds between the north and south would be opened which ultimately would 100% give all Northern votes to the SLPP. Please Most Reverend would you look God in His face and rebuke or confirm if you attended that meeting? If no, did such meeting ever take place?
Subject: SLPP,Tejan Kabbah and Solomon Berewa WANTED FOR MURDER!
From: Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas
To: All
Date Posted: 01:49:02 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Gilbert Samuth Kandu-Bo, Khemalai Idrissa, Tamba Gborie, Alfred Abu Sankoh, Hassan Karim Conteh, Daniel Kobina Anderson, John Amadu Sonica Conteh, Abu Bakarr Kamara, Abdul Karim Sesay, Kula Samba, Victor L. King, and Jim Kelly Jalloh v. Sierra Leone, Communications Nos 839, 840 & 841/198, U.N. Doc. CCPR/C/64/D/839, 840 & 841/1998 (4 November 1998).
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Gilbert Samuth Kandu-Bo, Khemalai Idrissa, Tamba Gborie, Alfred Abu Sankoh, Hassan Karim Conteh, Daniel Kobina Anderson, John Amadu Sonica Conteh, Abu Bakarr Kamara, Abdul Karim Sesay, Kula Samba, Victor L. King, and Jim Kelly Jalloh v. Sierra Leone, Communications Nos 839, 840 & 841/198, U.N. Doc. CCPR/C/64/D/839, 840 & 841/1998 (4 November 1998).
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HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE
Sixty-fourth session
19 October - 6 November 1998
VIEWS
Communication N 839, 840 & 841/1998
Submitted by: Gilbert Samuth Kandu-Bo, Khemalai Idrissa, Tamba Gborie, Alfred Abu Sankoh, Hassan Karim Conteh, Daniel Kobina Anderson, John Amadu Sonica Conteh, Abu Bakarr Kamara, Abdul Karim Sesay, Kula Samba, Victor L. King, and Jim Kelly Jalloh
Alleged victims: The authors
State party: Sierra Leone
Date of communication: 13 and 14 October 1998 (initial submission)
Date of adoption of Views: 4 November 1998
On 4 November, the Human Rights Committee adopted its Views under article 5, paragraph 4, of the Optional Protocol in respect of communication No. 839, 840 & 841/1998. The text of the Views is appended to the present document.
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VIEWS OF THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE UNDER ARTICLE 5, PARAGRAPH 4, OF THE OPTIONAL PROTOCOL TO THE INTERNATIONAL COVENANT ON CIVIL AND POLITICAL RIGHTS
- Sixty-fourth session -
concerning
Communication No. 839, 840 & 841/1998
Submitted by: Gilbert Samuth Kandu-Bo, Khemalai Idrissa, Tamba Gborie, Alfred Abu Sankoh, Hassan Karim Conteh, Daniel Kobina Anderson, John Amadu Sonica Conteh, Abu Bakarr Kamara, Abdul Karim Sesay, Kula Samba, Victor L. King, and Jim Kelly Jalloh
Alleged victims: The authors
State party: Sierra Leone
Date of communication: 13 and 14 October 1998 (initial submission)
The Human Rights Committee, established under article 28 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Right
Meeting on 4 November 1998,
Acting under the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and its Optional Protocol,
Referring to the cases of Gilbert Samuth Kandu-Bo, Khemalai Idrissa, Tamba Gborie, Alfred Abu Sankoh, Hassan Karim Conteh, Daniel Kobina Anderson, John Amadu Sonica Conteh, Abu Bakarr Kamara, Abdul Karim Sesay, Kula Samba, Victor L. King, and Jim Kelly Jalloh, whose communications were submitted to the Human Rights Committee under the Optional Protocol on 13 and 14 October 1998,
Recalling that the Committee's Special Rapporteur for New Communications requested the Government of Sierra Leone on 13 and 14 October 1998, under rule 86 of the Committee's rules of procedure, to stay the execution of the above mentioned persons while their communication was under consideration by the Committee,
Deeply disturbed by the information that Gilbert Samuth Kandu-Bo, Khemalai Idrissa, Tamba Gborie, Alfred Abu Sankoh, Hassan Karim Conteh, Daniel Kobina Anderson, John Amadu Sonica Conteh, Abu Bakarr Kamara, Abdul Karim Sesay, Kula Samba, Victor L. King, and Jim Kelly Jalloh were executed by firing squad outside Freetown on 19 October 1998,
Recalling that on 23 October 1998, an urgent request to provide clarifications, by 29 October 1998, about the circumstances surrounding the executions of the above named persons, was sent to the State party both through its Permanent Mission in New York and the Office of the Secretary General's Special Representative in Freetown,
Noting that no information has been received from the State party,
1. Expresses its indignation at the failure of the State party's authorities to comply with the Committee's request for interim measures of protection pursuant to rule 86 of the Committee's rules of procedure; the attitude displayed by the State party is all the more regrettable as it concerned cases involving capital punishment of which the Committee was properly seized and was competent to examine, and as it occurred in the context of the consideration of the first cases submitted to the Committee since the Optional Protocol entered into force for Sierra Leone on 23 November 1996;
2. Recalls that the State party, upon ratifying the Optional Protocol, undertook to cooperate with the Committee under the procedure, and emphasizes that the State party has failed to comply with its obligations, both under the Optional Protocol and under the Covenant;
3. Deplores the State party's failure to make available, as requested by the Committee, specific clarifications of the circumstances surrounding the executions;
4. Decides to continue the consideration of the above mentioned communications under the Optional Protocol;
5. Strongly urges the State party to ensure, by all means at its disposal, that situations similar to those surrounding the executions of the above mentioned persons do not recur; in particular, the Committee urges compliance with its rule 86 requests in other cases of a similar nature of which the Committee is seized;
6. Urges the State party to present without delay its initial report under article 40 of the Covenant, which was due on 22 November 1997, for discussion by the Committee at its 65th session in March/April 1999 and, in any event, to submit by 15 February 1999 a report, in summary form if necessary, relating in particular to the application at the present time of articles 6, 7 and 14 of the Covenant;
7. Requests the Secretary-General to bring this decision to the attention to the Government of Sierra Leone.
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*Made public by decision of the Human Rights Committee.
Subject: The New People lied about their correspondents in F/Town
From: chiefdom speaker
To: All
Date Posted: 01:16:54 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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James Osaio Kamara, James Koroma and others please stand up let you be counted. The New People claim you are from the North. We want to prove that all these names mentioned in their articles are the same tactics they successfully made up with Foday Sankoh's tribe even though Sankoh categorically denied he was a temne and in fact he was called Sannoh. They used names resemble temne names to confused people. This is a challenge to the new people to post the pictures of those people to prove their claim they are temnes and krios and limbas.
Subject: Re: The New People lied about their correspondents in F/Town
From: Plaba Bessie
To: All
Date Posted: 02:17:01 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 70-140-20-240.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net at 70.140.20.240
Message:
And you can tell who is Temne by looking at the person's photograph? GENIUS!
Subject: Re: The New People lied about their correspondents in F/Town
From: chiefdom speaker
To: All
Date Posted: 02:43:20 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
No we can track him and investigate the truth.
Subject: Mr Chiefdom Speaker you are violently illiterate
From: Salone CIA
To: All
Date Posted: 13:44:30 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: shdwilliams@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
Foday Saybana Sankoh was born on October 17, 1937 in the village of Masang Mayoso, Tonkolili District in the Northern Province of Sierra Leone to an ethnic Temne. A former corporal in the Sierra Leonean army, wedding photographer, and television cameraman, Sankoh became a student activist in the 1970s. After his activism earned him a short prison term, Sankoh joined a Cold War guerilla camp in Libya where they preached revolutionary ideas to West African dissidents. It is here that he met Charles Taylor, former president of Liberia and Sankoh's financial benefactor and ally throughout the civil war. With his encouragement, Sankoh and two allies, Abu Kanu and Rashid Mansaray, returned from Libya to form the Revolutionary United Front(RUF)." Wilkipedia
I am sure even a tribalist like you must now understand that none of these satans who pioneered the conflict were Mende. Get that in your empty tribalistic skull. The rebel war was started by your cousins.
Subject: Re: Mr Chiefdom Speaker you are violently illiterate
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 14:53:16 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 5adaa319.bb.sky.com at 90.218.163.25
Message:
Foday Sankoh was a photographer by trade and he lived in Segbwema throughout his life, and became amalgamated to the people of that region. He's a Temne by tribe but a Mende by association. Foday Sankoh was groomed and influenced by the Mende perception of the political situation in the country. We must not blame tribes in this bitter history of our country, for we're all children of the land though we view the country differently from tribe to tribe. Some tribes believe in "Ours only" while others tend to think in the contrary.
During the early stages of the war, Sankoh can be heard speaking in both Krio and English in rallies in Kailahun while the translation is in Mende,(courtsey of video recordings) so obviously he's not a Mende but was highly tutored and used by those people who were looking for someone as a scapegoat to facilitate the war. Since Foday Sankoh was a willing participant, one who have a similar intention and has already integrated to the Mende community in that vicinity, he became the one to head the incursion.
Subject: Re: Mr Chiefdom Speaker you are violently illiterate
From: Plaba Bessie
To: All
Date Posted: 21:22:23 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Eddie Grant:
You forget that although some of us support APC now because of the quality of the current leader, we have not forgotten the many tears that the APC has made us shed for our luminaries in Gbonokenlenken- Drs Forna and Taqi, Bangura (Bank Governor) etc and the many the APC has ignored and left by the wayside including Prof. Kamara and many other illustrious sons. You guys owe us a lot.
Subject: So Eddy you are the VIOLENTLY iliterate speaker?
From: Salone CIA
To: All
Date Posted: 15:34:52 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: markwillo@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
I hope you are not suggesting that folks from Sankoh's home are easily misled or that they have a high propensity to extreme violence.
From what I know, Foday Sankoh was a soldier for a long time. He was not stationed in Moa Baracks, Daru, and I hear he was in that part of the country only for a few months as a photographer. He is a born and bred Northerner. He spoke Temne very fluently - father tongue style. Please don't disown your own - thats very uncivilised.
Eddy Grant are you Eddy Kanneh... the violent thug who was hibernating in Burkina Faso - Obai's second home? I hope you are not planning any AFRC nonsense... ever again. Cos if you do we will castrate you this time.
Owai Ocaine!
Subject: Re: The New People lied about their correspondents in F/Town
From: Truth
To: All
Date Posted: 12:12:13 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 32.170.220.243
Message:
Or track him to identify another innocent civilian whose house will be
attacked by innocent civilians come election time?
Subject: Re: The New People lied about their correspondents in F/Town
From: Truth
To: All
Date Posted: 10:35:17 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 166.188.220.119
Message:
Or track him to identify another innocent civilian whose house will be
attacked by innocent civilians come election time?
Subject: Re: The New People lied about their correspondents in F/Town
From: Plaba Bessie
To: All
Date Posted: 09:56:15 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 70-140-20-240.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net at 70.140.20.240
Message:
Good luck on tracking all Temnes in the world by just looking at a photograph. I still think you are a GENIUS! Some of you guys are a shame to us northerners.
Subject: Re: The New People lied about their correspondents in F/Town
From: chiefdom speaker
To: All
Date Posted: 11:42:21 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip24-251-7-215.ph.ph.cox.net at 24.251.7.215
Message:
May be you do not understand what I'm really saying. I am not saying we are going to track all temnes, bufoon boy. Those guys live in freetown and they are reporters. Meaning, they are easy to track and interview them to prove the the TheNewPeople's claim. We have not seen those guys that are sending those ridiculous articles to that paper. They may have been taking fake monikers to hide their true identities just as we are doing here in this forum. We don't know who they are like Joseph Kamanda of cocorioko. If the paper want to prove Daniel Kanu wrong post their pictures then we can verify that PERIOD. If you cannot understand this simple explanation, please give me the language you can understand so I can write in that language, but I think this is pretty simple.
Subject: Re: The New People lied about their correspondents in F/Town
From: Plaba Bessie
To: All
Date Posted: 21:32:13 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Fellow, you're a shame to us northerners. When some of you talk this kind of tribalistic bile, I feel much ashamed to refer to myself as a proud Temne-Susu from Gbonkenlenken chiefdom, Tonkolili District.
I think the current APC leadership must cease listening to people like you who focus on such banalities as people's tribes and how to intimidate or victimise people because of their tribe. I think President Ernest Koroma will achieve a lot more for our dear Sierra Leone if he cleans his government of people like you who hold such narrow minded views. Grow up fellow. There are lots of northerners who are SLPP members just as there are lots of southerners who are APC members. Let us focus on what moves our country forward. Thank you, sir. I will not argue with you anymore.
Subject: Re: The New People lied about their correspondents in F/Town
From: Mohamed Barrie
To: All
Date Posted: 15:21:58 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: ncsneak@aol.com
Entered From: 24-181-27-97.dhcp.smyr.ga.charter.com at 24.181.27.97
Message:
In Temne.
Subject: Chiefdom tribalist, stop making a nuisance of yourself
From: Jacob Kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 13:55:08 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: jacob.kanu@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
What are you planning. Attack the reporters or their parents.
Why are you not using your real name here fool? Are you ashamed to be APC? You should be.
Or are you on that gof'ment supplied powder? Stop sniffing man, its not good for your health.
Subject: A classic definition of "MARTIAL LAW"!
From: General Moshe Dyan
To: All
Date Posted: 00:59:51 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-96-255-102-206.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.255.102.206
Message:
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma experiences the Doctor's SHOCK AND AWE
Posted by Chiefdom Police on July 25, 2008 at 00:42:22:
A few years ago, several medical researches were studying the effect of the shocks of life on the central nervous system. They took an "okuru dog" (Mohamed Kutubu Koroma)and placed it in an enclosure( The Cocorioko Forum) by itself/himself. They then hooked up electric shock devices around the enclosure. As the "okuru dog" wondered to one side of the enclosure, the "researches allowed" Dr. Curtis-Thomas to throw a switch and Mohamed Kutubu Koroma was SHOCKED! Immediately He TWITCHED and SCAMPERED to another part of the enclosure. Dr. Curtis-Thomas shocked the "okuru dog" again. AGAIN Mohamed Kutubu Koroma RAN!
As the research continued, The researchers discovered that Mohamed Kutubu Koroma would never return to a place where he had been previously shocked by Dr. Curtis-Thomas. After a series of shocks, the "okuru dog" just stood in the center of the enclosure, QUIVERING. The "okuru dog" had no place to run...and no place to hide. The shocks were everywhere. Completely overcome emotionally, filled with anxiety and stress...his nerves gave way, and poor Mohamed Kutubu Koroma had to be placed on medication "so that ee nor go lost track"!
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Posted by Fun-loving observer on July 25, 2008 at 00:51:16:
In Reply to: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma experiences the Doctor's SHOCK AND AWE posted by Chiefdom Police on July 25, 2008 at 00:42:22:
Posted by Fan of Curtis on July 24, 2008 at 10:28:28:
In Reply to: Remembering posted by Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas on July 24, 2008 at 10:15:12:
"Now that you have appeared, some people are already quaking in their holes for fear of those precision-guided 500 pound laser bombs. MKK, you dae tremble eh? You masta don cam!"
Subject: We the jury decided that the case btween SK and DK....
From: political
To: All
Date Posted: 00:41:00 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
The problem with the new people's argument in the tossle between Daniel Kanu and the paper is that they don't have a public archives to dig into their previous articles which a lot of them actually accused trhe APC as a northernized government and accused the ministers as bunch of illiterates. It is all a matter of symantics. If the new people want to have a credible defense, they need to open their archives to the public like any credible news outlet.
Subject: Re: We the jury decided that the case btween SK and DK....
From: Chiefdom Elders
To: All
Date Posted: 00:47:31 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-96-255-102-206.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.255.102.206
Message:
__Posted by political on July 26, 2008 at 00:41:00:
"The problem with the new people's argument in the tossle between Daniel Kanu and the paper is that they don't have a public archives to dig into their previous articles which a lot of them actually accused trhe APC as a northernized government and accused the ministers as bunch of illiterates. It is all a matter of symantics. If the new people want to have a credible defense, they need to open their archives to the public like any credible news outlet."
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Give us some background so that we can understand the POINT AT ISSUE!
Subject: Re: We the jury decided that the case btween SK and DK....
From: political
To: All
Date Posted: 01:01:20 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Read Daniel Kanu's article on cocorioko against the the new people and the rebutal by who claim to be Abdul from the new people.
Subject: Re: We the jury decided that the case btween SK and DK....
From: Chiefdom Spokeswoman
To: All
Date Posted: 01:04:49 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
THANKS, BIG GUY!
Subject: Re: We the jury decided that the case btween SK and DK....
From: political
To: All
Date Posted: 01:21:25 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Any time. And there is always live chat at Africanvideoproduction.com every weekend. So join the live debate.
Subject: Re: We the jury decided that the case btween SK and DK....
From: Chiefdom Elders
To: All
Date Posted: 02:03:25 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
"Any time. And there is always live chat at Africanvideoproduction.com every weekend. So join the live debate."
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________
WE ARE HONORED.
Subject: NO MORE STUPID CONTRACTS (with minor corrections)
From: Anthony Sisay
To: All
Date Posted: 23:58:27 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
Entered From: pcd171164.netvigator.com at 203.218.16.164
Message:
Even if they promised building railways, houses, schools, you name it, I would say to the Government not to go into the signing of any new contracts with foreign companies that will see the taking away of our raw materials out of the country. We need processing plants in the country. This goes for iron ore, bauxite, rutile, diamond, gold, uranium, etc, etc. A good deal would be one that will see the development of our own local industries and not the feeding of others' industries. If we don't have the expertise to do it, then train our people, at most it will only take five years maximum—if you start with the right people to be exact.
This is the twenty first century; we can't keep on allowing others taking our raw materials out of the country. I know the president would want to succeed fast, but there are other options and certainly allowing the winching away of our raw materials is not one of them. I live in a country where people don’t even have sand and even their land is considered barren for cultivation and yet their revenues in a year is three to five million times our total revenues over the last fifty years.
He, the president, I am sorry to say this, has not been cleaver or may be drowned and probably surrounded by mostly unpatriotic elements who seeks the filling of their pockets rather than the well being of the nation as a whole. Take for example the notion behind our recent diplomatic ties with India, Brazil and Senegal: Increasing our donor base. What in the hell these countries are going to offer, with the exception of Senegal, other than the looting of our natural resources. There is nothing to learn, gain or acquire from them. And by the way, we should not be relying on donations from any body.
Other decisions such as that of spending $32m dollars on generators in his first few days as president for the sake of electrifying the city was not a good one. He could have spent $6M dollars or so of that money to provide a solid generator at Guma Valley for the steady supply of water to all houses in the capital city. The remainder of the $32m could have been spent to improve and provide generators to the local universities, offices and factories and set dynamite at the backside of the Bunbuna Hydroelectric Project Contractor to speed up or risk paying damages. Again, it is very shameful that the construction of a simple hydroelectric dam can go on for over three to four decades without completion. There is no timeline and the government has no ability to set and enforce the timeline—a very disgraceful thing indeed.
So much for now, but please know that I will be willing to give advice to the Government on some tough issues and would be pleased if one of you could forward this message to Mr. President.
Subject: Re: NO MORE STUPID CONTRACTS (with minor corrections)
From: DR Samuel Gbondo
To: All
Date Posted: 10:34:51 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: fairgrovedevelopment@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 213.249.131.10
Message:
your opinion seem to be naive and vague. you are the son of slpp supporter. If you are condeming the good work of the president for buying generator to bring light to the city you must be mad. My advice to you is that, you better consult your GP for mental check up. I think you are a psyco and your mendula is not fuctioning. you are one of the silly baggers of this country trying to pull down good people.
first of all what the president did was a good decission for buying generator to light the city so that students can study for their exams. we dont operate under black out like the slpp goverment putting was in dark and steal all public funds and transfered it in to their private account.
My advice to you is that if you dont want to say thanks to Ernest koroma remain shut up.
Subject: NO MORE STUPID CONTRACTS
From: Anthony Sisay
To: All
Date Posted: 23:49:37 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
Entered From: pcd171164.netvigator.com at 203.218.16.164
Message:
Even if they promised building railways, houses, schools, you name it, I would say to the Government not to go into the signing of any new contracts with foreign companies that will see the taking away of our raw materials out of the country. We need processing plants in the country. This goes for iron ore, bauxite, rutile, diamond, gold, uranium, etc, etc. A good deal would be one that will see the development of our own local industries and not the feeding of others' industries. If we don't have the expertise to do it, then train our people, at most it will only take five years maximum—if you start with the right people to be exact.
This is the twenty first century; we can't keep on allowing others taking our raw materials out of the country. I know the president would want to succeed fast, but there are other options and certainly allowing the winching away of our raw materials is not one of them. I live in a country where people don’t even have sand and even their land is considered barren for cultivation and yet their revenues in a year is three to five million times our total revenues over the last fifty years.
He, the president, I am sorry to say this, has not been cleaver or may be drowned and probably surrounded by mostly unpatriotic elements who seeks the filling of their pockets rather than the well being of the nation as a whole. Take for example the notion behind our recent diplomatic ties with India, Brazil and Senegal: Increasing our donor base. What in the hell these countries are going to offer, with the exception of Senegal, other than the looting of our natural resources. There is nothing to learn, gain or acquire from them. And by the way, we should not be relying on donations from any body.
Other decisions such as that of spending $32m dollars on generators in his first few days as president for the sake of electrifying the city was not a good one. He could have spent $6M dollars or so of that money to provide a solid generator at Guma Valley for the steady supply of water to all houses in the capital city. The remainder of the $32m could have been spent to improve and provide generators to the local universities, offices and factories and set dynamite at the backside of the Bunbuna Hydroelectric Project Contractor to speed up or risk paying damages. Again, it is very shameful that the construction of a simple hydroelectric dam can go on for over three to four decades without completion. There is no timeline and the government has no ability to set and enforce the timeline—a very disgraceful thing indeed.
So much for now, but please know that I will be willing to give advice to the Government on some though issues and would be pleased if one of you could forward this message to Mr. President.
So much for now.
Subject: Remembering "The Mecca", Howard University. I thank Thee!
From: Charles Curtis-Thomas, SECHN, BSN, RN,MD (Hons.), MPH
To: All
Date Posted: 22:48:46 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: RNMDTWO@YAHOO.COM
Entered From: pool-96-255-102-206.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.255.102.206
Message:
Howard University
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Latin: Howard Universitas
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Motto: Veritas et Utilitas
Motto in English: Truth and Service
Established: March 02, 1867 (1867-03-02)
Type: Private, HBCU
Endowment: US$532 million [1]
Chairman: Addison Barry Rand
President: Dr. Sidney A. Ribeau
Vice-president: Sydney H. Evans Jr.
Provost: Richard Allyn English
Staff: 3,953
Undergraduates: 7,309
Postgraduates: 3,682
locat1on: Washington, D.C.,
United States
Campus: Urban; 258 acres (1.0 km²)
Associations: Middle States Association of Colleges and Schools
Sports: basketball, swimming, volleyball, tennis, soccer, football
Colors: Red, White, and Blue
Nickname: Bison
Athletics: NCAA Division I
Website: www.howard.edu
Howard University (HU) is a private, coeducational, nonsectarian university located in Washington, D.C., United States.
History
Established on March 2, 1867 under a charter enacted by Congress and approved by President Andrew Johnson, the college was named after General Oliver O. Howard who was commissioner of the Freedmen's Bureau and the college's third president. A historically black university, the college currently ranks 96th among national universities in the U.S. News & World Report's "America's Best Colleges 2008" rankings. Howard University is the number-one producer of African American Ph.D.s in the United States. It is often known as the Black Harvard.
Howard was established by a charter in 1867, and much of its early funding came from endowment, private benefaction, and tuition. An annual congressional appropriation administered by the Secretary of the Interior funded the school.[citation needed] Today, it is a member school of the Thurgood Marshall Scholarship Fund and is partially funded by the US Government, which gives approximately $235 million annually. From its outset, it was nonsectarian and open to people of both sexes and all races. Howard has graduate schools of pharmacy, law, medicine, dentistry and divinity, in addition to the undergraduate program. The current enrollment (as of 2003) is approximately 11,000, including 7,000 undergraduates. The university's football homecoming activities serve as one of the premier annual events in Washington.
Howard University has played an important role in American history and the Civil Rights Movement on a number of occasions. Alain Locke, Chair of the Department of Philosophy and first African American Rhodes Scholar, authored The New Negro, which helped to usher in the Harlem Renaissance. Ralph Bunche, the first Nobel Peace Prize winner of African descent, served as chair of the Department of Political Science. Stokely Carmichael, also known as Kwame Toure, a student in the Department of Philosophy and the Howard University School of Divinity coined the term "Black Power" and worked in Lowndes County, Alabama as a voting rights activist Historian Rayford Logan served as chair of the Department of History. E. Franklin Frazier served as chair of the Department of Sociology.[15] Sterling Allen Brown served as chair of the Department of English.
After being refused admission to the then-white-only University of Maryland School of Law, a young Lincoln University graduate Thurgood Marshall enrolled at Howard University School of Law instead. There he studied under Charles Hamilton Houston, a Harvard Law School graduate and leading civil rights lawyer who at the time was the dean of Howard's law school. Houston took Marshall under his wing, and the two forged a friendship that would last for the remainder of Houston's life. Howard University was the site where Marshall and his team of legal scholars from around the nation prepared to argue the landmark Brown v. Board of Education case.[16]
A number of student organizations were founded at Howard University, including:
Alpha Kappa Alpha Founded - 1908
Omega Psi Phi Founded - 1911
Delta Sigma Theta Founded - 1913
Phi Beta Sigma Founded - 1914
Zeta Phi Beta Founded - 1920
Howard is the site of the historic black Greek letter organization among black colleges. Alpha Phi Alpha Beta Chapter was the first to appear and establish itself amongst the male students of Howard University. The Alpha chapters of Alpha Kappa Alpha in 1908, Delta Sigma Theta in 1913, Omega Psi Phi 1911, Phi Beta Sigma in 1914 and Zeta Phi Beta in 1920 were established on the Howard campus.
Presidents of Howard University 1867 Charles B. Boynton
1867 – 1869 Byron Sunderland
1869 – 1874 Oliver Otis Howard
1875 – 1876 Edward P. Smith
1877 – 1889 William W. Patton
1890 – 1903 Jeremiah E. Rankin
1903 – 1906 John Gordon
1906 – 1912 Wilbur P. Thirkield
1912 – 1918 Stephen M. Newman
1918 – 1926 J. Stanley Durkee
1926 – 1960 Mordecai Wyatt Johnson
1960 – 1969 James M. Nabrit
1969 – 1989 James E. Cheek
1990 – 1994 Franklyn G. Jenifer
1994-1995 Joyce A. Ladner
1995 – 2008 H. Patrick Swygert
2008 – present Sidney A. Ribeau
In 1918, all the secondary schools of the university were abolished and the whole plan of undergraduate work changed. The four-year college course was divided into two periods of two years each, the Junior College, and the Senior Schools. The semester system was abolished in 1919 and the quarter system substituted. Twenty-three new members were added to the faculty between the reorganization of 1918 and 1923. A dining hall building with class rooms for the department of home economics was built in 1921 at a cost of $301,000. A greenhouse was erected in 1919.[citation needed] Howard Hall was renovated and made a dormitory for girls; many improvements were made on campus; J. Stanley Durkee, Howard's last white president, was appointed in 1918.
In 1965, President Lyndon B. Johnson delivered a speech to the graduating class at Howard, where he outlined his plans for civil rights legislation and endorsed aggressive affirmative action to combat the effects of years of segregation of blacks from the nation's economic opportunities.
In 1989, Howard gained national attention when students rose up in protest against the appointment of then-Republican National Committee Chairman Lee Atwater as a new member of the university's Board of Trustees. Student activists disrupted Howard's 122nd anniversary celebrations, and eventually occupied the university's Administration building.[20] Within days, both Atwater and Howard's President, James E. Cheek, resigned.
In April 2007 the head of the faculty senate called for the ouster of Howard University President H. Patrick Swygert, saying that the school was in a state of crisis and it was time to end “an intolerable condition of incompetence and dysfunction at the highest level.” This came on the heels of several criticisms of Howard University and its management. A National Science Foundation audit condemned Howard’s management of several federal research grants. The Division of Nursing faced losing its accreditation and being placed on probation for a second time because of the program's deficiencies. The Division of Allied Health Science, Physical Therapy and Physician Assistant program are also on probational accreditation status. In addition, the residency programs at Howard University Hospital received a much-publicized unfavorable assessment by the Accrediting Council of Graduate Medical Education (ACGME). Swygert announced in May 2007 he would retire from Howard in June 2008.[24]
On May 7, 2008 Howard announced the appointment of Sidney Ribeau of Bowling Green State University to the presidency of Howard
Campus
Founders Library is an iconic building on the Howard University campus that has been declared a National Historic Landmark.
Main Hall and Miner Hall in 1868. Miner Hall is located to the left.Major improvements, additions, and changes occurred at the school in the aftermath of World War I. New buildings were built under the direction of architect Albert Cassell. [26]
Academics
Schools and colleges
College of Arts and Sciences
School of Business
John H. Johnson School of Communications
College of Dentistry
School of Divinity
School of Education
College of Engineering, Architecture & Computer Sciences
Howard University Graduate School
School of Law
College of Medicine
College of Pharmacy, Nursing & Allied Health Sciences
School of Social Work
(MS)2 Middle School of Mathematics and Science
Research Centers
Moorland-Spingarn Research Center
Main article: Moorland-Spingarn Research Center
The Moorland-Spingarn Research Center (MSRC) is recognized as one of the world's largest and most comprehensive repositories for the documentation of the history and culture of people of African descent in Africa, the Americas, and other parts of the world. As one of the university's major research facilities, the MSRC collects, preserves, and makes available for research a wide range of resources chronicling the Black experience.[27]
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Subject: Eating with two hands is good but questionable..why?
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 19:03:28 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: soriejawara@verizon.com
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There is not too much wrong doing in eating with both hands at the same time, but someone will tell you it is an ugly filthy way.I don't know why this administration cannot see some silly errors made by previous administrations . Government officials preach about helping the country and people, but why demand money for donations sent as help? I believe this is a dirty ugly way of eating with both hands at the same time. Unfortunately, the crude way of sqeezing all the juice out of the mangoes is not changing...why? A Sierra Leone doctor worked hard and got xray machines and other important medical equipments for government hospital ..Kabala, disappointing, the items rotted at the port because the gentleman had no extra money to pay the crude taxes and the politicians could not help.Is this an intelligent way of doing things? Why advocate for help and try to make a fortune profit out of the humanitarian service rendered ? Is this proper thinking ?
Subject: Re: Eating with two hands is good but questionable..why?
From: Glenn A. Sankoh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:28:44 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: glennsankoh@bellsouth.com
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This is what I call "double standard" hell if you do, hell if you don't. Many professional Sierra Leoneans living abroad with strong financial setbacks whole heartedly wants to return to assist in rebuilding our economy and to improve health problems. But with this ongoing corruptions some of us are skeptical in doing so. I feel sorry for the medical doctor's good intention in providing the equipment for a good cause. I hope, with all my fingers crossed, that the APC.Government will continue fighting corruptions until "Trust" is built within the government, officials, and their ministries. By the way, can any one inform me if any of former, or present government officers have been charged with corruptions?
Subject: Re: Eating with two hands is good but questionable..why?
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:44:46 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: sotie_jawara@yahoo.com
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Glenn , the disease is too deep, our organization donated 60 bags of rice and $6000(six thousand ) as help for victims of the rebel war ,the rice and money were collected by paramount chiefs but nothing was handed to the desperately in need. Paramount chiefs shared the money between themselves . They could not even send a thank you note.The problem is a serious matter at all levels.Corruption...corruption and greed.
Subject: Re: Eating with two hands is good but questionable..why?
From: Glenn A. Sankoh
To: All
Date Posted: 23:56:12 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: glennsankog@bellsouth.net
Entered From: adsl-157-75-86.int.bellsouth.net at 70.157.75.86
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Mr. Jawara, thanks for the quick response to my short article. I didn't realize the seriousness and how rampant the corruption situation is in Sierra Leone since I have been away for so long. There should be some type of antidote for such activities. As I understand some of the hardship in the urban setting, I believe the government agencies residing in those areas should educate and interpret the laws to the paramount chiefs. But then, again there is no guarranty that those agencies will fairly deliver such laws to the people with stern warnings to face the consequences. The agents might be corrupt too..?
By the way I like your articles. They are to the points and alive. Keep up with the good work.
Subject: Re: Eating with two hands is good but questionable..why?
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 06:01:17 07/27/08 ()
Email Address: sotie_jawara@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-141-156-216-4.res.east.verizon.net at 141.156.216.4
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Mr. Sankoh, the solution is people should come together and stand firm , so as to eradicate the problem. Government and the people have taken matters to their selfish advantage because hell is not brought down. Here is one funny one, donors only started crying over the misuse of donations made through former president Kabbah after he is out of power. The oldman was sitting in Guinea enjoying rice,money and other items donated as help for victims of the war.The president could not use part of the money to help feed poor people lining up for food.It is a chronic problem and it will be difficult to stop it unless we act like donor nations. What the so called people don't understand is donors have drastically reduced donations, so help is slowly dying and will soon die. Glen take and good luck.
Subject: Re: Eating with two hands is good but questionable..why?
From: Mohamed Barrie
To: All
Date Posted: 20:54:05 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: ncsneak@aol.com
Entered From: 24-181-27-97.dhcp.smyr.ga.charter.com at 24.181.27.97
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This is a lesson for all in the diaspora who might be thinking of seeking assistance or equipment for help back home.It is a disgrace to learn of such callous and lack of good judgement on the part of The NRA commissioner and other authorities who may have get these drugs to the people who need it most.I am wondering where is office of disporan affairs that was established recently. Everything in sierra Leone is a sham.Whatever people in high offices said must be taken with a pinch of salt.Computers are duty free but medical supplies are not. what a bunch of retards.
Subject: The tribal politics of Sierra Leone.
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 18:58:50 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
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I was just talking to a friend of mine yesterday about politics in the motherland. He told me that real democracy is not possible because all the tribes in Sierra Leone have their own tribal parties. "I am Mende and SLPP is the Mende party. SLPP is in my genes. To support the APC, the Limba/Temne/Krio party is unthinkable, blasphemous and sacrilegeous. For example, let's take the cocaine saga. I don't know whether APC did it or not. I just have to expect the worst from them because Ernest Koroma is Temne APC od Limba or whatever. If I ever support the APC, my people in Hangha will ostracise me. I would be a traitor to my country, I mean region. Sorry about the slip of the tongue, old chap. This will never end. It will go on forever and ever and we, the educated sons, will continue to fire up this hegemonistic quest just like the poor villager from Potoru. I hate this but this is our destiny. You, Uman Lappa my friend, are a disgrace to our people for supporting APC. I will never talk to you again because you now sleep with the enemy. Good bye."
Subject: Re: The tribal politics of Sierra Leone.
From: Black Jack
To: All
Date Posted: 14:23:52 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: wramsey32@yahoo.com
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TO: UMAN, Everyone has the right and the option to support the political party of their choice, in a Dem. environment. It's up to your friend to accept this fact, or he is not a worthwhile friend. Please read my recent post titled, Foreign Intervention, Politics, and Tribalism. Good Day, Black Jack.
Subject: Re: The tribal politics of Sierra Leone.
From: Fingers
To: All
Date Posted: 22:40:37 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
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When you point a finger at somebody, four points back at you. Uman
Lappa I don't know how you were raised, but you are one of the most
tribalistic persons that ever came out of Sierra Leone. You disguise
your hate in party politics, but everybody can see you for the vermin
that you are.
Subject: Re: The tribal politics of Sierra Leone.
From: truth
To: All
Date Posted: 00:58:45 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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Actually, Uman Lapa may be tribalist, but what he said in this piece is true. In some tribes, people are sworn in the society bush not to support any other party other than theirs. When those people ignore that oath, they are called black sheep of the family. It is hard to say this but this is apparent in the south and east.
Truly, the north was a little more opened until this time when they realized that the south and eastern part of the country is more interested in their tribes than the country. Even after the north realized this, there is still a chunk of the north that vote based on the interest of the country. For instance, in this past general election, SLPP had huge votes from Tonkolili. Tell me when the south and east ever voted overwhelmingly for APC since 1996?
Subject: Re: The tribal politics of Sierra Leone.
From: truth
To: All
Date Posted: 00:56:12 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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Actually, Uman Lapa may be tribalist, but what he said in this piece is true. In some tribes, people are sworn in the society bush not to support any other party other than theirs. When those people ignore that oath, they are called black sheep of the family. It is hard to say this but this is apparent in the south and east.
Truly, the north was a little more opened until this time when they realized that the part of the country is more interested in their tribes than the country. Even after the north realized this, there is still a chunk of the north that vote based on the interest of the country. For instance, in this past general election, SLPP had huge votes from Tonkolili. Tell me when the south and east ever voted overwhelmingly for APC since 1996?
Subject: Re: The tribal politics of Sierra Leone.
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 00:53:29 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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You don't seem to be comfortable with the truth man!
Tribal politics is cancerous not only in Sierra Leone, but across Africa and beyond.
It is disigenuous on your part to pick on Uman Lappa on this issue when Kutubu thinks Zainab is Foreign minister only because she is Temne; Sengbe thinks the APC practice "themneocracy"; and Bra Enviable, well at least, he is an equal opportunity "tribalist" anyway.
Either way, calm down brother, tribal politics is not a new reality in Sierra Leone, it is as old as jackitomboy.
Subject: Re: The tribal politics of Sierra Leone.
From: Black Jack
To: All
Date Posted: 14:28:03 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: wramsey32@yahoo.com
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King, I agree, this is nothing new. If interested, please read my recent post titled, "Foreign Intervention, Politics, and Tribalism" Thanks, Black Jack
Subject: Re: The tribal politics of Sierra Leone.
From: Tolongbo
To: All
Date Posted: 05:28:08 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: soribabureh@hotmail.com
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Thank you bra. As for me, I think the issue of tribal affiliation is not an individual making but it is the work of Allah, the Almighty God.
However, to put a check on the negative tribal ideologies that hamper the co-existence of the various tribes in the formation of a unified state as ours, the so called intellectuals should stop their discriminative attitudes towards the uneducated or even half educated. Let our "bookmen and bookwomen" help in indoctrinating the "Moonkoos, dafts," illiterates on the hazards of tribalism and that of the heavenly rewards the state stands to gain if tribal egotism is discouraged by our wicked politicians.
Subject: Re: The tribal politics of Sierra Leone.
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 07:01:57 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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The unfortunate dismay of our lot is that it is the intellectuals who are the the most tribalistic people. It is they who are co-opting our less educated brethren into the swelling ranks of tribalists.
Subject: Re: The tribal politics of Sierra Leone.
From: Charles F Margai
To: All
Date Posted: 10:29:06 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: charles.margai@yahoo.com
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Message:
For a change, I am compelled to agree.
"It is they (interlectuals) who are co-opting our less educated brethren into the swelling ranks of tribalists."
Well now that we have started agreeing, I think the next stage should be - how we move forward to address this poignant issue.
Subject: Re: The tribal politics of Sierra Leone.
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 22:21:22 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
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"it's a question of whether individuals can look at the "big picture" and whether one will support a movement that is seeking solutions for all the people of the nation, or whether one will try to keep the benefits limited to his or her group, which is a subset of the society, at the expense of everyone else."
(Building a Nation... - Larry)
Subject: Cocaine suspects slapped with 8 counts indictment
From: Sam
To: All
Date Posted: 17:32:43 07/25/08 ()
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Message:
I expressed concern on this post a couple days ago, that the govt "rushed" the cocaine suspects to court because according to Francis Minah, you can't hold someone for more than ten days without charging them. Okay, we have laws. But with all the Sierra Leoneans in Pademba road that have not seen a judge in years, you know this is a joke, but cool no problem.
They they took them to court and charged them with everything under the sun, but they were all petty crimes, including destroying a fence at Lungi, but no cocaine charge!
This is not exactly a criticism. They might want to take their time so as not to mess up the case and that's okay too. But I hope they are not waiting to pass the new drug laws which coincidentally, where waiting to be passed as the plane was landing in SL.
I'm not a lawyer, but I assume you can't charge someone and punish them based on laws that were passed AFTER the crime was committed. The govt cannot muck this one up. It can not be swept under the table and people getting off on technicalities won't work. Please, let's use this as a blessing and make sure drug dealers want to by pass our territory.
I was talking to someone in Freetown on Sunday about the case and they were telling me how the police "dealt" with one local drug dealer. They would go on the radio and announce "John Doe (actual person's name changed) we know where you are, we are coming for you and of course, they show up, he has nothing incriminating.
Here is a reprint from Cocorioko about the suspects appearing in court:
19 suspects, including eight foreigners, arrested in connection with the July 13 cocaine saga in Sierra
Leone today made their first appearance at the Freetown Magistrate Court No.1 presided over by Magistrate Deen Tarawallie. Their particulars of offence contain an eight-count indictment ranging from malicious damage on the airport perimeter fence, illegal landing, unlawful possession of small arms, aiding the escape of suspects, to conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, among others.
Subject: Re: Cocaine suspects slapped with 8 counts indictment
From: Glenn A. Sankoh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:09:45 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: glennsankoh@bellsouth.net
Entered From: adsl-155-240-160.int.bellsouth.net at 68.155.240.160
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Before this cocaine bust incident, were there any mandated local laws against possession of illegal control substances in the entire country? If there was, or, is, should have been used against the 19 suspects. Also, does the Air Aviation Control system have radar to spot UFOs of such kind to prevent it from landing at Lungi International Airport? How strong and competent are the airport staff and security officers? Illegal drug business is world wide. Each country or nation must use local and international uniformed laws to intercept the drug lords, arrest and charged them accordingly with the evidence. What are their nationalities and criminal back grounds? Such information about each suspect could be transmitted to their native countries law enforcement departments and world wide web site for future references. At this time, Sierra Leone's judicial system must use the existing local laws against such crime and to detained them until trials. Other wise, they are flight risks, and unless some one pushes the cases under rugs through the common corrupt activities of some untrusted authorities.
Subject: Re: Cocaine suspects slapped with 8 counts indictment
From: Expert
To: All
Date Posted: 18:55:28 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
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Nolle Prosequi - period
Subject: Cocorioko is degenerating into tribalism talks again
From: nationalism
To: All
Date Posted: 17:26:44 07/25/08 ()
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The SLPP boys are back with full force to disrupt the important discussion affecting our mother land once more. All they are doing is attacking and disappear like a gurilla Kamajor in the bush. Hm, when do these omolanky guys start real discussion? It is just 11 months ago when they lost power, but to them it seem it is already 11 years. So what happen if the APC win the next election again? Trust me they will attempt to unleash the munku kamajors to the bush again.
Subject: The Problem With Zainab Bangura
From: Bra Enviable
To: All
Date Posted: 16:31:04 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
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I do not want to get into gaseous talk about the characteristics of an educated person. The essence of this message is to state that the day to day running of government requires a variety of skills to keep a nation afloat. While no one expects angels to descend from the sky with heavenly expertise, some skills are needed to grease the wheels of a fairly effective government. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is a government department requiring its chief executive to be astutely anchored in international relations and diplomatic conventions. Unlike other government departments, the ministry of foreign affairs should be run by a personality steeped in English grammar, historical precedents and the kaleidoscopic scenes on the international stage. In layman's terms, a foreign minister should be educated in history, the requirements of English grammar, and the fast-changing patterns of international politics. A foreign Minister's accent should not count against him on the international stage because diplomats all over the world are schooled to see the world as a vast pool of cultures, a pool inhabited by a number of languages too numerous to count.
Zainab Bangura is in the unenviable position of being a foreign minister with scant knowledge about international relations. She possesses neither the academic status, nor the knowledge, to represent a country in need of international advertisement. She does not even know, for example, that when properly run, her office can put the Guineans on the defensive over Yenga. Educated men and women cannot intrinsically lead a nation to the Promised Land. The maturity of a nation's political system is what punishes depraved politicians. However, the intricacies of running some government ministries should be left with those who have the skills, and professional disposition, to make a difference. Zainab Bangura will be a finer woman elsewhere than she is in the Foreign Ministry. A war-mangled country like Sierra Leone needs a magnetic spokesperson to capture the attention we crave.
Subject: Re: The Problem With Zainab Bangura
From: political
To: All
Date Posted: 17:31:35 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
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Bra Enviable, your name relate to your attitude. Who was the foreign minister during the SLPP? Momodu Koroma. And what did he do with all his education? Nothing. So why did you tell him he was not fit to be a foreign minister? Because he was an SLPPist.
Wuna go get hat complain before the next election.
Subject: Re: The Problem With Zainab Bangura
From: Adu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 06:00:20 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: adu@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-45-255-9.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.45.255.9
Message:
You did not answer the question, why did your bra enviable not critised SLPP momodu Koroma when he was foreign mininter, a position he was unsuitable for. Ahmed Tejan Kabba only appointed koroma because he sued to carry his luggage. What does a science graduate like Momodu knows about international relation.
Subject: Re: The Problem With Zainab Bangura
From: Alieu One Man
To: All
Date Posted: 19:00:10 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
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It looks like Bra Enviable is too sophisticated for the APC boys. Each time the Bra writes the APC have nothing serious to say except to go back to the SLPP.
What do you people have to show for being in power?
Bra Enviable is definitely the nemesis for the APC thugs.
Subject: Re: The Problem With Zainab Bangura
From: Adu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 05:53:46 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: adu@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-45-255-9.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.45.255.9
Message:
He is as faceless as unknown. Never a threat to APC in power. He can write his spleen out, the APC is a democratic party and can tolerate criticism from even faceless writers.
Subject: Momodu vs Zainab
From: Shaday Williams
To: All
Date Posted: 10:00:55 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: shdwilliams@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
No self respecting person should compare these two. Its a bit like comparing "Dream" and "Death".
The last time the MENSA guys checked, Momodu (a Physics graduate and holder of a Postgrad Diploma in International Relations) had one of the highest IQs in the subregion; Zhainab Bankura, a Grecko, ATP (allowed to pass grad from FBC... could not have even got her degree if there were no dark forces behind her) - was rated to have an IQ of a Form 2 student.
Oratory skilss - no contest; Momodu wins hands down
Finese and diplomatic skills - MKK is a natural diplomat, Zhain is pretty crass. MKK would lecture Zhain any day.
So Mr Adu, its Dream vs Death - not to be compared.
Subject: Re: The Problem With Zainab Bangura
From: Adu conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 17:04:29 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: adu@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-45-255-9.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.45.255.9
Message:
Bra Enviable please reflect your quote if you are speaking for SLPP.
"In layman's terms, a foreign minister should be educated in history, the requirements of English grammar, and the fast-changing patterns of international politics"
So Momodu Koroma was not qualified because he did not study history. Gentlemen do you really think before you write these flowering words?
Subject: Re: The Problem With Zainab Bangura
From: Dr. Abdul Nahim
To: All
Date Posted: 17:08:31 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ac202-058.resnet.stonybrook.edu at 130.245.202.58
Message:
Hey chez, educated in history and "study history" are the same? Did he tell you he was speaking for the SLPP? Winston Kabia you are a disgrace. You are a mental case, Chez Winakabs Europe. You need help.
Subject: Re: The Problem With Zainab Bangura (for Adu)
From: British Diplomat
To: All
Date Posted: 17:36:29 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: markwillo@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
Adu Conteh, you sound very confused? Hope you have not been sniffing the APC powder. Small small ooh me man leh yu brain nor fire.
Don't tell me you are not even a layman,,.
Take 2: read Bra Enviable's prose again. If you do not get it...then I suggest you look for the Eddy Grants on the forum - when you find them, stick with them.
It looks like Bra is a little sophisticated.
Subject: Foreign Intervention, Politics, and Tribalism
From: Black Jack
To: All
Date Posted: 15:27:22 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: wramsey32@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 63.164.47.194
Message:
Foreign Intervention, Politics, and Tribalism in Sub-Saharan Africa
For 1,000s of years foreign invaders have plundered the African continent and exploited her valuable resources. In the Colonial era European imperialists, (Britain, France, Germany, Belgium, and Italy) continued this exploitation to the fullest extent of their abilities. Further imposing their will they completely ignored existing national and tribal boundaries and arbitrarily demarcated the entire sub-Saharan continent. The residual effects of their actions are still felt to this day.
In the Cold War era the world's superpowers used sub-Saharan Africa as a playground for their war games. Instead of invading a country with their own military forces these imperialists recruited Africans and formed the military forces required to establish control in their countries of choice. They covertly supported these so-called private armies and supplied them with modern weapons, military training, etc. (The superpowers and African rulers gained plausible deniability for their actions in the eyes of the world by labeling these forces private armies.) They funded cooperative regimes to perpetuate their hegemony in these countries. These regimes were ruled by favored African dictators and commonly called Military Governments. In some instances both Russia and the U.S. supported the same dictator simultaneously. For example, the late Mohammed Siad Barre of Somalia. Barre became President in 1969. The US and Russia competed for his favors by providing him with financial aid and military hardware. Barre was ousted by rebel militias in 1991. Chaos ensued as the warring clans battled for control of the country using both US and Soviet weapons while an estimated 1.5 million Somalians starved to death. The US Military deployed Marines in late 1992 to stop the civil war and provide food aid. The war quickly escalated and UN peace-keeping forces joined the US forces shortly thereafter. The US withdrew most of their troops in June 1993, as planned, but continued covert operations. After the ill-fated incident in Mogadishu in Oct.1993, the remaining US troops pulled out. The UN mission was terminated in the spring of 1995 and all UN troops pulled out while the civil war raged on. Somalia fell into a state of anarchy and is a legacy of superpower intervention in sub-Saharan Africa.
In the second half of the last century, many sub-Saharan countries gained their independence; but most in name only as their Military Governments continued to rule. When the Cold War ended the establishment of a superpower's version of Democracy in a chosen country became, (and still is) a precondition for that country to receive financial aid. It is irrelevant to the supporting power that the required Democracy is a poorly disguised and poorly practiced facade; they continue to provide financial support regardless of how that Democracy is practiced or how that aid is utilized. The superpowers taught African rulers that the total domination of entire countries is acceptable conduct. They provided these rulers with the resources needed to acquire absolute power and wield it effectively on a much larger scale than previously possible. Africans have learned these lessons all too well. These despots quickly learned that it is far more profitable to establish a pseudo-democracy and receive foreign financial aid than it is to establish a true Democracy.
Now African rulers operate corrupt autocratic Governments and strive to extend their domination over the largest area possible. With a “winner-take-all”, “all-or-nothing” mentality, they use private armies to execute military coups and exploit their own country’s, (and other countries’) natural resources. These rulers operate with a complete disregard for human life, the rule of law, their country’s welfare, etc. The stakes are high and the competition is fierce; there are many power-hungry individuals with the very same goals in mind. For example, Charles Taylor, former President of Liberia. Samuel Doe, (a former Master Sergeant in the Liberian Army) seized power in a brutal coup and established a military dictatorship in 1980, ending 133 yrs. of Democratic rule. He became President of Liberia in a sham election in 1985. Despite allegations of election fraud the US recognized and supported the Doe Government.
Taylor, (a former lieutenant of Doe’s) was the leader of the National Patriotic Front of Liberia, (NPFL). In Dec.1989, he launched an unsuccessful military coup attempt against the Doe Government. Taylor ’s actions started a seven year civil war which involved several militant factions that claimed 200,000 lives and produced 1 Million refugees. Doe was captured and executed by a splinter faction of the NPFL, the Independent National Patriotic Front of Liberia, (INPFL) in Sept. 1990. The INPFL was led by Prince Johnson, a former comrade of Taylor’s. Although Doe was killed, the fighting continued between the many rebel factions. In Oct. 1990, ECOWAS negotiated a peace settlement and an interm Government was established with Amos Sawyer as President. Taylor refused to recognize the new Government’s authority, and continued fighting. In 1991, Taylor agreed to become part of a five-man transitional Government. Over the next six years, Liberia experienced a cycle of failed pan-African and/or Internationally negotiated peace accords that were followed by violent clashes among the warring factions. This civil war officially ended in 1996 when Taylor was elected President. (A fair election according to international monitors, including the former US President Jimmy Carter.)
In the 1990’s, Taylor sent troops and arms to back the Revolutionary United Front, (RUF) in exchange for diamonds. The RUF was one of the militant factions involved in the rebellion against the Government in Sierra Leone , itself in the midst of a 10 year civil war. (The RUF was formed and led by Foday Sankoh, and this rebel group started the civil war in Sierra Leone in 1991.) Taylor ’s troops collaborated with the RUF and they took control of many of the diamond mining areas there, forcing local civilians to mine as virtual slaves. These conflicts were funded by the infamous blood diamonds of Sierra Leone.
In 1999, rebel militias dissatisfied with Taylor’s Government began a revolt in Northern Liberia that also involved neighboring Guinea. Gradually the fighting spread throughout most of Liberia. In early 2003, the rebel militias advanced toward Monrovia attempting to overthrow Taylor’s Government but they were stopped within miles of the city. In June, Taylor was indicted by the UN-backed special court for war crimes and violations of international humanitarian law. He finally resigned from office in Aug. 2003, as UN peace-keeping forces arrived in Liberia. He sought refuge in Nigeria and was eventually arrested. Taylor’s trial is currently ongoing at the International Criminal Court in The Hague, Holland. Taylor’s reign is a legacy of African rulers exploitation and their quest for wealth and power in sub-Saharan Africa.
African rulers have mastered the art of financial exploitation. Their expertise rivals that of any entrepreneur in the private business sector. These despots deftly manipulate their imperial supporters to perpetuate and increase financial aid. This aid is rarely used to improve the country’s infrastructure, economic development, etc. Instead, this aid is used to fund military campaigns or deposited in private Swiss Bank accounts. For example: The west gave millions of dollars to Africa's longest ruling dictator Mobutu Sese Seko, of Zaire, (now the Dem. Republic of Congo) while fully aware of his corrupt banking activities. Mobutu Sese Seko is one of Africa’s most notorious and prosperous dictators; he accumulated billions by exploiting his own country and his western supporter. In the past, vast sums of foreign aid money were donated to sub-Saharan countries. Due to "donor fatigue" in the early 1990's, the donor funds were largely replaced by loans provided by World Bank and similar institutions. Unfortunately, as a direct result of Government corruption, most of these funds disappeared. Without a prosperous economic system most African countries have no chance of ever repaying these loans. Many countries now spend more on interest payments than on their own development. Some countries have negotiated for, and received debt forgiveness; providing a clean slate and the opportunity to start anew. But most are destined to continue their existence as impoverished states, as they have for decades.
African rulers have also mastered the art of politics in the modern era. They come into power in "free and fair" elections, e.g. President Mugabe of Zimbabwe, President Kibaki of Kenya, and former President Obasanjo of Nigeria. These despots promote the concept of one man-one vote-one time. Once elected, they rule with impunity and use their position to amend constitutional term limits to remain in office for the rest of their lives. In the rare instance they face re-election, the incumbent expertly manipulates all aspects of the election process. This includes: intimidation of voters and opposition candidates, control and bribery of political parties and “Independent” National Electoral Commissions, etc. Also, they corrupt of all aspects of the vote counting process including: inflated vote counts, stolen ballot boxes, and the delay or prevention of voter registration, etc. In some cases the incumbent will have opposition candidates eliminated by incarceration or assassination. (Elected officials are immune to civil and criminal prosecution in Nigeria.) They are nearly impossible to remove from office without a military coup, and when removed their replacement is usually another despot. The ruling class elite controls both the Government and the business sector. They make and enforce the rules, and they control most of the monetary assets. This exclusive circle of well-connected friends is mutually supporting. Elected officials use their power to appoint friends to high-ranking Government positions. They create lucrative Government contracts which they award to their business associates. This select group reaps the benefits from these ventures, while the general population lives in abject poverty
Politics and tribalism are permanently intermixed and interconnected on many levels; each compliments and plays off the other. The concepts of politics and tribalism are closely related and are very similar in both theory and practical application. Both operate and achieve goals by organizing a group of individuals with a common interest, and both utilize a complex network of close personal relationships, (and alliances with) the individual members and sub-groups. Both require all its members to be loyal to the group and abide by the rules and laws of the entire group Both Tribes and Political parties are comprised of genetically, racially, and/or regionally related individuals who make up ethnocentric groups and distinct sub-groups. Each distinct sub-group may have its own special interests. Nevertheless, these sub-groups all share a common interest and are bonded together in a unified group. In some instances, tribal and political interests conflict and tribal interests can supercede political interests, and vice versa.
Tribalism affects every aspect of life in Africa. The ruling class elite consists of members of the dominant tribe. This elite group utilizes both tribal and political power/influences, (and at times military force) to achieve and maintain power, exerting near total control of the general population. These tyrants promote the perceived differences between tribes as an effective tactic in their divide and rule strategy. (It is ironic that the differences between tribes are infinitesimal.) The dominant tribe’s discrimination against other tribes takes many forms including: physical violence, exclusion from land ownership, and exclusion from meaningful employment and business opportunities. Tribalism’s motivating force is erroneously perceived by many as being religious. The perception of tribalism being religiously motivated is perpetuated because the sub-dominant tribes generally practice a religious faith that differs from the faith practiced by the dominant tribe. These sub-dominant tribes are discriminated against regardless of the religious faith they practice. Tribalism is simply racial intolerance; it is motivated by greed and hatred.
These tyrants carry out the most extreme form of tribalism by covertly supporting so-called rebel militias (private armies) that execute so-called tribal conflicts and civil wars. (The President of Sudan, Omar Al-Bashir denies his Government supports rebel militias involved in the ongoing crisis in Darfur.) In the past two decades almost all Africa’s conflicts were labeled civil wars, but 95 percent of the victims of these wars were innocent civilians not the soldiers involved in the fighting. These “civil wars” occurred in many countries: Angola, Rwanda, Burundi, Sierra Leone, and both Congos to name but a few. These civil wars have displaced millions of people, (both internally and externally). They leave their homes attempting to escape the violence and gather together forming huge refugee camps. Actually, these tyrants are committing genocide; their goal is the total elimination of all other tribes. Their atrocities are reminiscent of Third Reich policies and actions
The inescapable poverty, constant racial discrimination, and extreme civil/human rights violations endured by the sub-dominant tribes causes them to become dissatisfied with the ruling class, and its Government. This oppression and dissatisfaction encourages their radicalization. They form clan militias to fight their oppressive Governments, (and each other).
Africans have mastered the art of plunder and violence but they have not mastered the art of war. African forces have evolved into a much more dedicated and sophisticated military machine. These forces are now very well-armed, well-trained, and well-organized. They have greatly improved as a fighting force, but they are mainly utilized to destroy Africa’s most valuable resource; its people. Africa is a continent comprised of 54 countries, with 784 million people who belong to countless tribes. Many countries are in an almost constant state of conflict; these conflicts are mostly indecisive, with few clear winners. The multitudes of civil wars, tribal conflicts, and military coups in Africa are outnumbered only by the warring tribes involved. These tribes can not co-exist because each tribe desires absolute power and strives to eliminate all other tribes. Peace Accords are fragile at best and most are short-lived. When any minor crisis occurs these peace agreements are quickly forgotten, the masses react with extremely violent behavior. Due to greed, tribalism, and human nature the violence is self- perpetuating. War, greed, and tribalism are all hard task-masters.
Subject: Re: Foreign Intervention, Politics, and Tribalism
From: Mr. Cullinan
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Date Posted: 13:31:48 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: sorrelsteak@yahoo.com
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TO: Black Jack, Excellent work, I esp. liked what you had to say about Politics and Tribalism. Its rare to read an honest and straightforward assessment of African leaders, etc.
Thanks for providing interesting material on a serious subject. This forum has been buried by the "snow-white sandstorm" for the past 2 weeks; it's amazing that subject created more material than any other recently. Keep up the good work. Mr. C.
Subject: UN Security Council Hails Ernest Koroma’s Efforts in the Glo
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Date Posted: 13:45:46 07/25/08 ()
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The President of the United Nations Security Council, Mr. Le Luong Minh has described the actions of the Ernest Bai Koroma Government in the development of effective and sustainable security systems, to be "admirable". Mr. Minh was writing in connection with the recent large seizure of cocaine in Sierra Leone which he described as an example of how drugs can hamper efforts to maintain sovereignty and integrity.
President Ernest Bai Koroma: Admired by the U.N.
OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT
PRESIDENT KOROMA ADMONISHES ECOWAS MPS, GETS SECURITY COUNCIL SUPPORT
Dated: July 24th 2008
President Ernest Bai Koroma today July 24th 2008, received in audience members of the ECOWAS Sub-Committee on Information and Technology. Admonishing the group at State House this afternoon, the President expressed his happiness in seeing that the committee was busy doing its mandate in preparation for the Heads of State summit in December.
"We have come a long way in terms of achieving the set targets, but we are not there yet," President Koroma noted. He said more commitment needed to be shown in turning the ideals into concrete achievements. Stating that Sierra Leone is one of the countries leading in domesticating the ECOWAS proposals, the President said this country is still committed in meeting the ultimate objectives of the sub-regional group. He thanked the sub-committee for addressing the all-important issue of information technology.
"Information is power. And there is so much the sub-region can gain in furthering our ideals as spelt out in the Dakar Action Plan," he said. The President reiterated his government’s commitment to fulfilling all that ECOWAS stands for.
The team comprised of delegates from Liberia, Burkina Faso, Togo, Gambia, and Sierra Leone. They were introduced by Sierra Leonean female MP Victoria Saidu Kamara, while the vote of thanks was given by Deputy Minister of Finance and Development Dr. Richard Conteh.
Meanwhile, President Koroma has received a letter of support from the President of the United Nations Security Council, Mr. Le Luong Minh, on the Sierra Leone Government’s efforts in handling the cocaine saga.
Dated 22 July 2008, excerpts of the letter read thus: "I take this opportunity to refer to my earlier presentations to the Security Council on the threat increasingly being faced by West Africa as a hub for the illicit trafficking of cocaine from South America to Europe….The recent large seizure of cocaine in Sierra Leone is yet another instance of how drugs and organized criminal networks can serve to hamper efforts to maintain sovereignty and integrity… I therefore believe that the Security Council’s support will be crucial to bolster the ongoing admirable actions by the Government of Sierra Leone to develop effective and sustainable security systems…"
THE PRESS SECRETARIAT
STATE HOUSE
FREETOWN
24 JULY 2008
Subject: Is this another "FBI-Scotland Yard " phony distraction?
From: British Diplomat
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Date Posted: 15:23:38 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: markwillo@yahoo.com
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Why should anyone believe this lying government. The Foreign Minister has lied to the whole world and now libel boy wonder is trying to fool us again.
Kemoh is still tampering with witnesses, whilst GK sips cognac in a 5 star hotel in Bissau.
Who is fooling who here?
Subject: Re: Is this another "FBI-Scotland Yard " phony distraction?
From: Black Jack
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Date Posted: 15:37:07 07/25/08 ()
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TO: BD, I don't know what to believe, I certainly don't believe this letter, or any recent newspaper articles. I don't believe the WHOLE TRUTH will every be known about the Cocaine Plane, at least to us anyway. I think that S.L. was the plane's final destination, its range capability is not that great. "Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive." Black Jack
Subject: THANKS TO REV.FOR COCORIOKO
From: okdok
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Date Posted: 14:29:50 07/25/08 ()
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This is a site for all S/L and we bless Rev.
Subject: Kabs has disappointed us all
From: CKC Boy
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Date Posted: 13:43:55 07/25/08 ()
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I sat in the same classroom with you , Kabs Kanu, from Form 1 to Form 5. I was there when you set up Freedom National in Form 2,which our teachers like Gaimamus, Lumumbs, Kavor,Pa.Dean,K.P.J, Boy Lambo, Father O'dwyer and others enjoyed reading in the staffroom. one day,Pa. Dean was teaching and you were reading your newspaper which Pa. Dean seized and carried to the staffroom to complain :"I was teaching and Wilfred Kanu was reading this".That was how the other teachers came about to know about the paper.You also became an Editor of CKC Times and then you went to FBC where we learned you were contributing to the downfall of student union governments that were corrupt. Somebody has already mentioned Tablet.What is of concern to us who knew you before is the change that has come over you .Why are you supporting a corrupt government,Kabs ? What you are doing is not befitting of the Kabs we knew before. You have disappointed us all. If you dont like what I am saying you can delete it.I have called you many times but you try to be dodging me.Only APC members calls are the ones you take. You have to come back home. You are in a strange land right now,I can tell you that for free.
This Kabs guy is very intelligent but he is not making use of his talents any more.I also remember his Tablet days with Pios, Frank Kposowa and Hindolo Trye.They made President Shaki to wake up on the wrong side of the bed every morning.They stripped the APC government naked every day. I wonder why he has decided to be part of a system he once fought. Kabs has the ability to bring this government down with the stroke of his pen. Why Kabs, why the change ?Why the disappointment ?
Subject: Re: Kabs has disappointed us all
From: political
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Date Posted: 17:36:21 07/25/08 ()
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CKC borbo, SLPP of Kabbah and APC of Koroma which one more corrupt? Please be sincere and make sure you back your answer(s) with facts.
Lonta
Subject: Re: Kabs has disappointed us all
From: HASSAN KAMARA
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Date Posted: 16:09:58 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: KAMSON10@HOTMAIL.COM
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He decided to join the APC becuse of they accepted him.
Subject: Re: Kabs has disappointed us all
From: Speak for yourself
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Date Posted: 14:00:23 07/25/08 ()
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You say Kabs has disappointed you. But you are not all of us. if you want to bring down this govt., good luck in your treason. But why try to join Kabs in your scheme? did he tell you he shared your goal?
Subject: Re: Kabs has disappointed us all
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 18:49:17 07/25/08 ()
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"But why try to join Kabs in your scheme? did he tell you he shared your goal?"
"Dah de thing ! !" as our Liberian people would say in the local parlance. I don't really understand what CKC Boy and all these guys are saying.
The fact that Pius, Hindolo,Kposowa and I at that time fought the APC government does not mean that we will keep fighting all the time. There comes a time when you want to help transform and this is what I am doing now. I see in President Koroma a genuine desire to change the face of Sierra Leone for the better. His government may have made mistakes and some ministers may be underperforming (The President himself has acknowledged this to the BBC )BUT that does not obliterate the fact that the President has a great and sincere desire to bring socio-economic and political changes to Sierra Leone .
I am not trying to promote somebody whom I just met DOWN THE RIVER. I have known Ernest Koroma from our college days at FBC--40 or so years ago. The interesting thing is that Ernest Koroma walked with guys that constantly opposed me because we were at different sides of the student political spectrum, but Ernest being the liberal -minded and fair person who does not easily takes sides , was civil to me. He knew that what I was doing on CHUKS PRESS was noble and salutary and he treated me differently .I also knew him to be a very sincere person who meant what he said .After we graduated too, I noticed that he had that business man's approach to anything and any institution he served, he worked hard to make it succeed and yield dividends.
Nobody criticising him now can fault his performance and work ethic. The man is genuine and sincere. If we all throw our weight behind him and forget about tribe, region and party and think Sierra Leonean, he will definitely change Sierra Leone for the better. Unless he disappoints me, I can see him finishing as one of the best Presidents we have had , and this is why I am helping to promote his government.I talk with him and I know the plans he has for Sierra Leone.
The only sad thing for Ernest, which even SLPP politicians have confessed in private, is that he came to power at a time when the country had really sunk to the lowest of depths .The war destroyed Sierra Leone and SLPP's 11 YEARS OF SLEEP-WALKING AND MALFEASANCE DID NOT HELP MATTERS. There are so many problems in Sierra Leone that as you solve one, spectacular new ones emerge.
However, with our support and the support of the international community and stakeholders , the government will succeed.
The only thing I pray for is that if President Koroma finds any member of his team performing below par, he should waste no time to get rid of that person. He should be ready at all times to inject freshness, dynamism and new commitment to his government.
Some of you sit down here and criticise but you don't try to understand how hard people like Ernest Koroma, Sam Sumana AND SOME MINISTERS are working to change our country for the better. When we have to stay back in school or office to work extra hours, it bothers us. Even some nurses hate to do double shifts on a regular basis. But do you know how many hours these leaders clock on the job EVERY SINGLE DAY ? They do double shifts every day. They work up to 16 or more hours everyday. Somebody was joking that if he took a new appointment with the government, he will use the time to rest a lot after all the "Yagba" and stress of American life .But a member of the government warned him to disabuse himself of the notion that when he goes to Sierra Leone he will rest.He won't, the minister assured him. There is a lot of work , the minister told us ."At times, I sleep only 3 hours for 2 days ! ! !", he said.
I know I have not disappointed anybody.I am doing what my conscience is telling me to do. Hindolo served the NPRC junta and he is serving this government. Frank Kposowa was an apologist for the last SLPP government, while Pius supported Berewa's Presidential aspirations. If Berewa had won, he would have been one of the government's operatives or promoters.
We are getting old now. We have fought during our young age . Now, it is time to identify where we fit in to help transform our nation to a better place .
My greatest desire is to see this government bring changes to our people's lives and to make our people smile for once again. I am nobody's sycophant. I just love my nation and I have seen the opportunity to help in my own small way to have this government's programs promoted to the international world. If this results in international goodwill for the government and big-time help from the international community and stakeholders, at least I would have achieved something for my country.
Subject: Re: Kabs has disappointed us all
From: bobsonmans
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Date Posted: 04:04:43 07/26/08 ()
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Kabs we all do pray and hope that Ernest succeeds. There is nothing wrong for newspapers to lean towards one government, the left or right. Afterwards, in great democracies like the UK, you have papers like the Times and Daily Telegraph are right or Tory Leaning and the Guardian left or Labour leaning. However, when it comes to issues of national importance nothing will stop them from offering constructive criticism. Personally i am not too optimistic about the prospects of mother Sierra Leone. The country is divided as ever along North-south; the same failed political and economic elite are running the show; the same "area man", "old boy", "bra law","ngor", "Ndemia", "comanneh" "korthor" sentiments is prevalent in jobs allocat1on and criminal prosecution.The abject failure to import good practice from african success stories such as Botswana and Mauritius, in my view, is another cause for pessimism. We are setting very low standards for our selves.I also believe sierra leonean leaders are often tied as most times party big wigs and fund raisers are very influential and call the shots. Could sponsoring political parties by the state be the answer? Progressive minds should dwell on this. Thank you for offering us this forum to air our views, vent our anger, disappointments, frustrations, hopes and aspirations for mother Sierra Leone. Only hope the name Sierra Leone is not a curse and might need a change. Perhaps Salone which is so common to every Sierra Leonean.
Subject: Re: Kabs has disappointed us all
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 18:43:14 07/25/08 ()
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"But why try to join Kabs in your scheme? did he tell you he shared your goal?"
"Dah de thing ! !" as our Liberian people would say in the local parlance. I don't really understand what CKC Boy and all these guys are saying.
The fact that Pius, Hindolo,Kposowa and I at that time fought the APC government does not mean that we will keep fighting all the time. There comes a time when you want to help transform and this is what I am doing now. I see in President Koroma a genuine desire to change the face of Sierra Leone for the better. His government may have made mistakes and some ministers may be underperforming (The President himself has acknowledged this to the BBC )BUT that does not obliterate the fact that the President has a great and sincere desire to bring socio-economic and political changes to Sierra Leone .
I am not trying to promote somebody down the river whom I just met. I have known Ernest Koroma from our college days at FBC--40 or so years ago. The interesting thing is that Ernest Koroma walked with guys that constantly opposed me because we were different sides of the student political spectrum, but Ernest being the liberal -minded and fair person who does not easily takes sides , was civil to me. He knew that what I was doing on CHUKS PRESS was noble and salutary and he treated me differently .I also knew him to be a very sincere person who meant what he said .After we graduated too, I noticed that he had that business man's approach to anything and any institution he served, he worked hard to make him succeed and yield dividends.
Nobody criticising him now can fault his performance and work ethic. The man is genuine and sincere. If we all throw our weight behind him and forget about tribe, region and party and think Sierra Leonean, he will definitely change Sierra Leone for the better. Unless he disappoints me, I can see him finishing as one of the best Presidents we have had , and this is why I am helping to promote his government.I talk with him and I know the plans he has for Sierra Leone.
The only sad thing for Ernest, which even SLPP politicians have confessed in private, is that he came to power at a time when the country had really sunk to the lowest of depths .The war destroyed Sierra Leone and SLPP's 11 YEARS OF SLEEP-WALKING AND MALFEASANCE DID NOT HELP MATTERS. There are so many problems in Sierra Leone that as you solve one, spectacular new ones emerge.
However, with our support and the support of the international community and stakeholders , the government will succeed.
The only thing I pray for is that if President Koroma finds any member of his team performing below par, he should waste no time to get rid of that person. He should be ready at all times to inject freshness, dynamism and new commitment to his government.
Some of you sit down here and criticise but you don't try to understand how hard people like Ernest Koroma, Sam Sumana AND SOME MINISTERS are working to change our country for the better. When we have to stay back in school or office to work extra hours, it bothers us. Even some nurses hate to do double shifts on a regular basis. But do you know how many hours these leaders clock on the job EVERY SINGLE DAY ? They do double shifts every day. They work up to 16 or more hours everyday. Somebody was joking that if he took a new appointment with the government, he will use the time to rest a lot after all the "Yagba" and stress of American life .But a member of the government warned him to disabuse himself of the notion that when he goes to Sierra Leone he will rest.He won't, the minister assured him. There is a lot of work , the minister told us ."At times, I sleep only 3 hours for 2 days ! ! !", he said.
I know I have not disappointed anybody.I am doing what my conscience is telling me to do. Hindolo served the NPRC junta and he is serving this government. Frank Kposowa was an apologist for the last SLPP government, while Pius supported Berewa's Presidential aspirations. If Berewa had won, he would have been one of the government's operatives or promoters.
We are getting old now. We have fought during our young age . Now, it is time to identify where we fit in to help transform our nation to a better place .
My greatest desire is to see this government bring changes to our people's lives and to make our people smile for once again. I am nobody's sycophant. I just love my nation and I have seen the opportunity to help in my own small way to have this government's programs promoted to the international world. If this results in international goodwill for the government and big-time help from the international community and stakeholders, at least I would have achieved something for my country.
Subject: Re: Kabs has disappointed us all
From: Taveh Gutu
To: All
Date Posted: 13:48:16 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Gbaygbay boy ee nor mornah you yayte!
Subject: Re: Kabs has disappointed us all
From: CKC Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 13:47:51 07/25/08 ()
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THIS IS WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE POSTED ABOUT YOU, MEANING I HAVE SUPPORT WHAT I AM SAYING.
This Kabs guy is very intelligent but he is not making use of his talents any more.I also remember his Tablet days with Pios, Frank Kposowa and Hindolo Trye.They made President Shaki to wake up on the wrong side of the bed every morning.They stripped the APC government naked every day. I wonder why he has decided to be part of a system he once fought. Kabs has the ability to bring this government down with the stroke of his pen. Why Kabs, why the change ?Why the disappointment ?
Subject: Re: Kabs has disappointed us all
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 00:49:59 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
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How about that crack head,morally debased,unprincipled opportunistic carpet bagger Hindolo Trye.?At least Kabs Kanu is not part of the system.Hindolo was one of those who shouted from the roof top about the criminal mismanagement of the country by Stevens and co.He came here stole my video tape went back home and misrepresented himself to the NPRC just to get a job.How could you have been so critical of a articular system and all of a sudden you become part and parcle of it?The fellow is simply of any human decency and self worth.The only principled person here is Pious Foray because he has remained steadfast in his resolve and beliefs.The crack head is nothing more than a head line grabber.If it were possible for Foday Sankoh to return to earth today and form a government,Hindolo will have no problem teaming up with him because that is his person totally bereft of anything that has to do with pride and self respect.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Re: Kabs has disappointed us all
From: Researcher
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Date Posted: 06:24:13 07/26/08 ()
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Pious Foray is principled ? Somebody whose Democrat newspaper was nicknamed Solocrat ? Bo du ya , me man, go sidon wit you belfull.
Subject: Re: Kabs has disappointed us all
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 06:56:48 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
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At least you do not see him in every administration like that coke head headline grabber who calls him self Hindolo.Wait and see,when APC will have gone you will see him on his stomach begging for job.I just cant stand people who are void with basic human decency,self forth,self pride,personal moral integrity,and principal.He thinks he is all that intellectually.Whilst he was here in the USA,he never held any job always leaving on chicanery and at the expense of others.I am waiting for him to respond and readers will know what he and his fellow collaborators did in one bank one day.The mere mention of his name makes me throw up.I dont blame that poor lady who just dumped him because the guy all throughout his life lives on deception and manipulation.No matter what you say about Pious,he is a very disciplined ,focused,morally sound ,and principled fellow.He would have had a job if he wanted one because he has the ability to cultivate the friendship of those that matter.Also,he could have exploited his late brother's standing in the political process to his advantage.
Subject: Re: Kabs has disappointed us all
From: Tamba Moiwo
To: All
Date Posted: 07:27:05 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: moiwo@hotmail.co.uk
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Mr Koroma your bile is sufficient to drown yourself.You no doubt have a right to your opinion.That Tyre elects to join APC is purely his own choice and allowable in a democratic society--so why this raving lunatic rant against the man? Bo you go fen you yone niche en lef dae man-each to his/her own.
Subject: What does it take to be educated or well educated?
From: The Smart Cavalier
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Date Posted: 13:21:17 07/25/08 ()
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In simple terms education can be said to be a teaching and learning process.This process involves the combination of lots of other things so as to achieve the desired goals, aims and objectives.The goals of education in most cases are knowledge, skills and attitudes.The employment of psychology,sociology, philosophy and technology among the numerous is inevitable for a successful teaching and learning process.
Teaching as we have seen many times and on many occasions is helping others change their behaviours and for someone to learn, the change has to be permanent.How do we notice a change in behaviour? By repeatedly observing the movements of a person in space.That means education is not just about the classroom.
I have observed in Sierra Leone that education is hinged on the knowledge of the English language.It does not matter how many competencies you have acquired or how many degrees you have earned, what matters most is how well you can speak and write English and that too is determined by how much verbose vocabulary you can command.The layman does not care much about comprehension, all he cares about is admiring verbosity of the bombastic types who enjoy it a lot. But are verbose-prone people not making fools of themselves? It is a common knowledge that communication is a two-way traffic where the sender has to ensure that the receiver understands what he is trying to say.The most common problem in communication is the communication gap where the receiver does not clearly understand the sender.So it makes no sense if one uses big and complex terminology to communicate with someone with limited vocabulary .The best thing as recommended by the English man is to use very simple but grammatically correct sentences with common and familiar words.
People pursue different types of education as dictated by the curricula and the needs of the society.Most people do not study English as a major at university level but need its assistance being the language of instruction.If one compares an arts student to a science student the difference will be easily evident.The former can handle the English language well while the latter can handle mathematics to the tee but can still write or speak english.But does that mean the science graduate is less educated in comparison with the arts graduate? The answer is an emphatic "NO!"
In Sierra Leone as stated in the example above, it means to be educated is to speak good English and to be well educated is to be grandiloquent and verbose! It is so sad that even the so-called graduates are living with this academically-suicidal misconception. Take for instance the dissing, bashing and trashing of the president and his foreign minister by some desperate politically-partisan forumites and editors of other news outlets.Every time ,they claim the minister is grammatically challenged and so should be kicked out.Well, if these people are right, they should also ask for the sacking of ministers in China, India, Japan, Bangladesh and other countries who cannot express themselves in English very well. What I believe is important is that the lady can communicate well because people decipher what ever she tries to say.She possesses the skills of a foreign minister which counts a lot!
There are some funny elements who go around making fun of the president's pronunciation of words like attitude which they claim he pronounces as 'architude' and convention they claim he pronounces as 'conbention'.Whether their claims are true or not, the fact remains these people are fast drowning in the sea of ignorance.They need to listen to Asians or French speak and laugh their brains out.One can vociferate that these people have not learned anything in their entire academic lives because such behaviour is not compatible with the process!
So what does it take to be educated or well educated?
Answer: Acquiring skills, knowledge and/or attitudes in a particular domain and to have the ability afterwards to apply them to solve problems,make suggestions,conclusions,observations,recommendations or proposals or create things for the benefit of the society or human race.It is hardly about making lengthy, arrogance-charged and ostentatious write-ups in forums or speeches which do not serve any purpose.
TO BE CONTINUED..........
Subject: "Zainab is violently iliterate" British High Commissioner
From: Jacob Kanu
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Date Posted: 15:01:44 07/25/08 ()
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Once again the dull cadaver has exposed his dullness and inability to put things in context. Let me help you out a bit, after all I am your boss.
The issue with Aunty Zain, is not just the bad pronunciation. She also lacks the basic knowledge and finese needed for such a job. Understandably, people of your ilk might think she is well suited for the post; but you only make such judgement based on your low level exposure and understanding of the ToR for this post.
I am sure even you, understand that her past comments about the Tibet-Sino relations was very crass to say the least. Her recent bold face lie about "the FBI, Scotland Yard...you name it", was toxic. To borrow MKK's apt descrition "she made an @$$ out of herself and our poor nation". She could have simply said "we have some international help" to make her point. Can you imagine what the British High Commissioner felt about the lying half-baked Minister? The BHC is he noted to have said that:
"The Sierra Leonean Foreign Minister is violently illiterate... and she is clearly not cut out for diplomacy. That was an unnecessary lie. I should be the first to know if Scotland Yard was involved in this investigation"
Isn't that embarassing, even for a violently iliterate young fella like you? Anyway, let me address some of your other points.
English is not the official language for most of the countries you have listed - China,India, France,Japan etc. Even where it is not, like in India, it is ridiculous to compare half-baked Aunty Zain to her Indian counterpart - Pranab Kumar Mukherjee, for example. Pranab is a lawyer and holds a masters in History & Politica Science and rose through a series of cabinet posts (including Finance Minister of India from 1982 to 1984). In 1984, he was rated as the best Finance Minister of the World according to a survey of Euromoney magazine. He is now Foreign Minister and very apt in diplomacy.
What this gentleman lacks in pronunciation, he makes up for doubly in contents of his speeches. Aunty Zain on the other hand lacks both verbal and the barest minimum knowledge needed for this high profile job. To make matters worse, there are so many qualified Sierra Leoneans, I dare not list here, for fear I may use up all of the memory space allocated to this forum.
What exactly is Zhainab Bankura's qualifications?Themne?
Bo una lef dis disgraceful non-sense yah!
Subject: Re: "Zainab is violently iliterate" British High Commissione
From: The Smart Cavalier
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Date Posted: 06:20:21 07/26/08 ()
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"English is not the official language for most of the countries you have listed - China,India, France,Japan etc. Even where it is not, like in India, it is ridiculous to compare half-baked Aunty Zain to her Indian counterpart - Pranab Kumar Mukherjee, for example. Pranab is a lawyer and holds a masters in History & Politica Science and rose through a series of cabinet posts (including Finance Minister of India from 1982 to 1984). In 1984, he was rated as the best Finance Minister of the World according to a survey of Euromoney magazine. He is now Foreign Minister and very apt in diplomacy". DO YOU KNOW FOREIGN MINISTERS FROM THESE COUNTRIES SPEAK ENGLISH OUTSIDE THEIR COUNTRIES?
Did you understand my argument? Let me help you with a small hypothesis:THOROUGH KNOWLEDGE OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS AN INDICATION OF BEING EDUCATED OR WELL EDUCATED.
Carefully go through the write-up again and note my deconstruction of such view.
And incase you don't know, Zainab holds a degree from FBC which you don't have.
Had Zainab been a mende, you guys would have been singing praises of her suitability.Lol.
Did you study collocat1on in school? If not, try to do some revision, if you have not try to do some reading. The word VIOLENT does not collocate with the word ILLITERATE.
"...but you only make such judgement based on your low level exposure and understanding of the ToR for this post". YOU KNOW WHAT, FIRST TRY TO EARN AN ORDINARY DIPLOMA IN ANY DOMAIN SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME FRUITFUL DISCUSSION ON EXPOSURE AND UNDERSTANDING OR ELSE YOU WILL BE LOST WHEN I HIT.
"Isn't that embarrassing, even for a violently illiterate young fella like you?" I NEED THE LIKES OF YOUR TEACHERS FOR COMPETITION PROVIDING THEY ARE THAT QUALIFIED ENOUGH TO CARRY MY BAGS.TWITS LIKE YOU DON'T COUNT MUCH WHEN IT COMES TO PURE ACADEMICS.
Subject: Re: "Zainab is violently iliterate" British High Commissioner
From: Academician
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Date Posted: 18:57:34 07/25/08 ()
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The syndrome is called AIC - that is acute (not a cute) inferiority complex.
Subject: Re: For Jacob Kanu
From: HASSAN KAMARA
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Date Posted: 15:53:27 07/25/08 ()
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Jacob,
I knew the only crime Zainab and the others in this administration have committed against the defunct SLPP supporters like you is because majority of them are Temnes. Let me inform you that you will continue to harbor grudge against my tribe for the rest of youthful days because it will take decades before your ranting SLPP go close to the POWER. For your information we are going to invest some money on cyber space so that google can have their statelite over Kailahun and Kenema just in case you want to form another rebel war because the civilize "mende man" doesn't have the patience to wait for the peopple's mandate like the munku Temneman. With the statelite we can see you in your back yards while planning your cruel acts.
Subject: For Haasan
From: Jacob Kanu
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Date Posted: 07:23:42 07/26/08 ()
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"the civilize "mende man" doesn't have the patience to wait for the peopple's mandate like the munku Temneman"
Hassan Kamara
Salone's worst ever conflict was started by Foday Sankoh. "Foday Saybana Sankoh was born on October 17, 1937 in the village of Masang Mayoso, Tonkolili District in the Northern Province of Sierra Leone to an ethnic Temne. A former corporal in the Sierra Leonean army, wedding photographer, and television cameraman, Sankoh became a student activist in the 1970s. After his activism earned him a short prison term, Sankoh joined a Cold War guerilla camp in Libya where they preached revolutionary ideas to West African dissidents. It is here that he met Charles Taylor, former president of Liberia and Sankoh's financial benefactor and ally throughout the civil war. With his encouragement, Sankoh and two allies, Abu Kanu and Rashid Mansaray, returned from Libya to form the Revolutionary United Front(RUF)." Wilkipedia
I sure even a tribalist like you must now understand that none of these satans who pioneered the conflict were Mende. Get that in your empty tribalistic scull. The rebel war was started by your cousins.
No one hates you. The 'hate' and violence is all imagined in your tiny winy tribalistic brain; your post is just a reflection of that. All the Kailahun & Kenema people I know are very peaceful and opposed to violence - so your wish for a war is only a dream in your psychotic brain.
By the way Google Earth has been around for while now and your post shows your lack of understanding of how it works; I'll just leave your ignorance intact, and say no more. Should you however need some lectures on it I suggest you contact me privately.
Our Aunty Zainab is unqualified for her current engagement, and you tribal rants will not give her spontaneous knowledge to prevent her from embarassing our poor nation. Its just a fact you have to live with.
Subject: What Is Rule of Law?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 12:51:41 07/25/08 ()
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"What Is Rule of Law?
Bo LI
Perspectives, Vol. 1, No. 5
"We are free because we live under civil laws." --- Charles de Secondat Montesquieu
"Rule of law" is one of the much said but little understood concepts in popular press and daily conversations in China today. What is rule of law? What is its significance? Does rule of law mean that there is no "rule of person?" What are the institutional conditions and cultural content of rule of law? How do we achieve rule of law? I intend to tackle these questions in a series of essays. In this essay, I will focus on the meaning of the rule of law and its values. In the next essay of this series (to be published in the June issue of "Perspectives"), I will talk about the implementation.
As a starting point, I want to point out that when we say "rule of law" these days, we mean something different from the instrumentalist conception of "rule by law" of the legalist philosophers in ancient Chinese history. When we say "rule of law" today we intend to describe a key component of the social and political orders found in the United States and other liberal democratic states of our time. In other words, by "rule of law" we mean a western tradition that can be traced back to the Roman republics and was fully developed by the liberal constitutionalism. It is characterized, in the words of Max Weber, by "legal domination."
The difference between "rule by law" and "rule of law" is important. Under the rule "by" law, law is an instrument of the government, and the government is above the law. In contrast, under the rule "of" law, no one is above the law, not even the government. The core of "rule of law" is an autonomous legal order. Under rule of law, the authority of law does not depend so much on law's instrumental capabilities, but on its degree of autonomy, that is, the degree to which law is distinct and separate from other normative structures such as politics and religion. As an autonomous legal order, rule of law has at least three meanings. First, rule of law is a regulator of government power. Second, rule of law means equality before law. Third, rule of law means procedural and formal justice. We will take up these meanings of rule of law one by one.
First, as a power regulator, rule of law has two functions: it limits government arbitrariness and power abuse, and it makes the government more rational and its policies more intelligent.
The opposite of rule of law is rule of person. There are two kinds of rule of person. The first kind is "rule of the few persons," examples of which include tyranny and oligarchy. The second kind of rule of person is "rule of the many persons," an example of which is the ancient Greek democracies. The common feature of rule of person is the ethos that "what pleases the ruler(s) is law." That is, under rule of person, there is no limit to what the rulers (the government) can do and how they do things.
In contrast, a key aspect of rule of law is "limitation;" i.e., rule of law puts limits on the discretionary power of the government, including the power to changes laws. This is why the western juridical tradition is Roman, not Greek. One of the major problems of ancient Greek democracy is that its conception of law does not contain the idea of limitation. The Greek word "eleutheria," commonly translated as "freedom," connotes a freedom that extends into the principle that what pleases the people is law. In other words, there were no limits to the (democratic) governments of ancient Greece, and the popular will, be it short-term passion or long-term rationality, would always become law if the demos so wished. "As soon as law lost its sacred character, popular sovereignty was placed above the law, and, by that very act, government by laws was once again fused and confused with government by men" (Sartori, 1987, p. 307).
Unlike the Greek system, the Roman system of law limited the ability of the rulers to change laws, and it greatly influenced the Anglo-Saxon version of rule of law. At the core of the Anglo-Saxon conception of rule of law is the idea that the discretionary power of the government should be limited. "[W]henever there is discretion there is room for arbitrariness, and . . . in a republic no less than under a monarchy discretionary authority on the part of the government must mean insecurity for legal freedom on the part of its subjects" (Dicey, 1982, p. 110). The solution to this problem, say liberal democrats, is rule of law.
There are two common misconceptions in China. First, when some writers describe "rule of person," they mean only "rule of the few persons." These writers think that, as long as we have democracy ("rule of the many"), we have justice and rule of law. These writers forget that the popular will can rule with or without constitutional and legal limits. Without constitutional and legal limits, popular will can be as destructive as, or even more destructive than, the unfettered discretion of "the few." Examples include the injustices of classical Greek democracy, terrors of the French Revolution and the crimes against humanity committed during the Chinese Cultural Revolution. Second, some writers in China think that, as long as laws are passed through democratic procedures, they represent the general will (a la Rousseau) and therefore are just laws. These writers forget that "popular will" is not necessarily "general will" (as Rousseau himself warned us more than two hundred years ago). Unfettered popular will can not only deviate from the Rousseauian general will, it can run against and destroy the general will.
In more specific terms, how is government arbitrariness constrained? The answer lies in several important principles of rule of law. First, if we are to limit government caprice, rule of law requires the supremacy of law as opposed to the supremacy of the government or any political party. To the noted English jurist A. V. Dicey rule of law means, "in the first place, the absolute supremacy or predominance of regular law as opposed to the influence of arbitrary power, and excludes the existence of arbitrariness, of prerogative, or even wide discretionary authority on the part of the government" (Dicey, 1982, p. 120).
Second, if the government is to be restricted in its exercise of discretion, the government has to follow legal procedures that are pre-fixed and pre-announced. As F. A. Hayek puts it, rule of law "means that a government in all its actions is bound by rules fixed and announced beforehand -- rules which make it possible to foresee with fair certainty how the authority will use its coercive powers in given circumstances, and to plan one's individual affairs on the basis of this knowledge" (Hayek, 1994, p.80). For example, in constitutional and criminal law, there is a prohibition on "ex post facto" laws, that is, no one should be punished for a crime not previously defined in law. In other words, the government cannot simply define a new crime and apply the new definition retrospectively. The rationale for this principle is that, first, the government should not be allowed to abuse its power by punishing individuals for political or other conveniences; second, it would be grossly unjust and oppressive for the government to punish someone for behavior that was not known to be criminal at the time of commission; third, to so punish individuals would result in so many uncertainties that it would create great inefficiencies.
Rule of law as a constraint on government power is well recognized, but its cognitive value in enhancing government's rationality is often less understood. Rule of law not only limits the arbitrariness of the government, it also makes the government more intelligent and articulate in its decision making. For one example, as Professor Stephen Holmes writes, "[o]nly a constitution that limits the capacity of political decision makers to silence their sharpest critics . . . can enhance the intelligence and legitimacy of decisions made" (Holmes, 1995, p. 8). For another example, the key reason why liberal democrats do not believe in the pure will theory of legality is that, without rule of law as a limit, popular will can easily be corrupted by passions, emotions and short-term irrationalities. As such, liberal democrats demand rule of law because it helps us to behave according to our long-term interest and reason.
One comment on the relationship between rule of law and liberalism is due here. Liberalism requires a limited government, and it naturally finds rule of law (as a regulator of government power) a necessary institutional arrangement. We can say that liberalism requires rule of law, and that rule of law is an institutional realization of liberal ideals. Historically, however, rule of law existed before liberalism. According to Dicey, rule or supremacy of law was firmly established in England before the end of the sixteenth century, when liberalism as a political and social philosophy had not been completely born yet -- John Locke was born in 1632 and his Second Treatise of Government was first published in 1690. However, rule of law as a constraint on government arbitrariness might have provided a strong institutional and cultural support for the birth of liberalism in England, whose core teachings included the doctrine of limited government and the right of revolution.
The second meaning of rule of law, according to Dicey, is equality before law. "[N]ot only that . . . no man is above the law, but (what is a different thing) that . . . every man, whatever be his rank or condition, is subject to the ordinary law of the realm and amenable to the jurisdiction of the ordinary tribunals. . . . [T]hough a soldier or a clergyman incurs from his position legal liabilities from which other men are exempt, he does not (speaking generally) escape thereby from the duties of an ordinary citizen" (Dicey, 1982, p. 114-115). To Dicey, even in 1915 this principle of rule of law was not universally true among the liberal democratic countries of Europe. In England the idea of legal equality had been "pushed to its utmost limit" by 1915, but in France the officials were "to some extent exempted from the ordinary law of the land, protected from the jurisdiction of the ordinary tribunals, and subject in certain respects only to official law administered by official bodies" (Dicey, 1982, p. 115). By now, however, equality before the law is a universally recognized principle in all liberal democratic countries, although different countries might, at the margins, have different interpretations of what that equality entails.
The third meaning of rule of law is formal or procedural justice. What is formal or procedural justice? Before we answer this question, we need to answer a more preliminary question: what is formalism? Max Weber categorizes legal systems into four kinds: formally irrational, substantively irrational, formally rational, and substantively rational. Rationality refers to the generality and universality of law. Formality refers to the characteristic that the criteria of lawmaking and lawfinding are intrinsic to the legal system itself; that is, all rules, procedures and decisions can be deduced from the legal system itself. In contrast, a legal system that emphasizes substantive qualities of lawmaking and lawfinding uses factors outside law, such as ethical, emotional, religious or political factors, to evaluate cases. To Weber, only a formally rational legal system can achieve "legal domination" (rule of law) through consistent application of general rules, because only a formally rational legal system can maintain a "consistent system of abstract rules" that is necessary for rule of law.
A formally rational legal system, according to the western legal tradition, also results in justice that we desire. This kind of justice is called formal or procedural justice, which "connotes the method of achieving justice by consistently applying rules and procedures that shape the institutional order of a legal system" (Shen, 2000, p. 31). More specifically, formal or procedural justice consists of several principles. First, the legal system must have a complete set of decisional and procedural rules that are fair. Second, the fair rules of decision and procedure must also be pre-fixed and pre-announced. Third, these decisional and procedural rules must be transparently applied. Fourth, these decisional and procedural rules must be consistently applied. When these four conditions are satisfied, western judges and lawyers will say that they have achieved a certain kind of justice, which is called formal or procedural justice. Note that this notion of justice is more concerned with process and procedure than with the end result. As Selznick puts it, "legality has to do mainly with how policies and rules are made and applied rather than with their contents" (Selznick, 1969, as cited in Shen, 2000, p. 30). In other words, as long as the process is fair, transparent and consistent, justice is obtained and legality is achieved.
One example will help illustrate the concept of procedural or formal justice in contrast to substantive justice. If, in truth, a person has killed another person, substantive justice requires that the killer be punished according to law. However, if the killer is illegally tortured by the police to confess to his crime and, as a result of the confession, the police find conclusive evidence (i.e., evidence proving guilt beyond reasonable doubt), such as the weapon, the body of the victim, etc., for the court to convict the killer (which results in substantive justice), there is no procedural justice because the process of finding guilt has violated the basic rights of the killer who, before the conviction, is a citizen entitled to the full protection of the Bill of Rights.
In this case, based on the well-established law of criminal procedure, an American judge will not allow the record of confession (obtained through torture) and anything found as a direct result of the confession (such as the weapon and the body) to go into the court as evidence. As such, the jury will never see these items as evidence, and if the prosecutors have no other good evidence, the killer is likely to be acquitted, even though substantive justice requires that the killer be punished (because, for example, the weapon and the body might prove the guilt beyond reasonable doubt due to the fact that the killer knows where the weapon and the body are, and the weapon contains the killer¡¯s fingerprints.) In this way, in the United States, procedural justice triumphs over substantive justice in this particular case. In the end, the American judge will claim that justice is done simply because the pre-determined procedural rule (e.g., illegally obtained evidence is not admitted in court) is consistently and transparently applied.
One prominent Chinese diplomat in the United States once complained to some American friends that the United States should not blame China for human rights violations. The United States itself, the diplomat observed, is not a just society. The diplomat then went on to use the case of O. J. Simpson as an example of the lack of justice in American society. With all the evidence, said the diplomat, it was obvious that Mr. Simpson was guilty, and an overwhelming majority of American people also thought he was guilty, but the court set him free in the criminal trial. "Is this justice?" The diplomat asked in disbelief. Obviously, the diplomat did not understand the concept of procedural justice. In the case of O. J. Simpson, the judge could confidently conclude that justice was achieved because the trial was conducted according to pre-fixed and pre-announced procedures in a fair, transparent and consistent way. If the government could not prove Mr. Simpson's guilt beyond reasonable doubt, Mr. Simpson should be set free. This procedural rule ("prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt in an ordinary court") was a well-established legal rule known long before the trial started, and the rule was fairly, transparently and consistently applied to Mr. Simpson's trial.
You might ask: does it make sense to emphasize procedural justice? The general answer is yes. In a system that sacrifices procedural justice for the sake of substantive justice, the danger of arbitrary government power and the threat to individual liberty will be too great. Eventually, that system will lead to substantive injustice as well. In contrast, in a system that emphasizes procedural justice, arbitrary government power will be checked, liberty will be protected, and substantive justice will be preserved in the long term (if we believe that truth is best obtained through contest and debate between equals).
More specifically, formal or procedural justice has at least three values. First, without fair and just procedure, there is no guarantee that the end result will be just (that is, substantive justice cannot be guaranteed). As such, procedural justice is seen as a necessary condition for substantive justice. This is why the western legal tradition places a much higher value on formal or procedural justice than its East Asian counterpart, which puts more emphasis on substantive justice. In fact, some western legal scholars regard procedural justice as the only workable method for reaching substantive justice, and to these scholars procedural justice should be the only concern of the players within the formally rational legal system.
Second, formal or procedural justice is a condition for constraining government arbitrariness and protecting individual rights. When the government is required to follow pre-fixed, transparent and fair procedures before it can deprive a person's life, liberty or property, the danger of government arbitrariness is substantially reduced and the prospect for wrongful deprivations of individual rights is also significantly diminished.
Third, as Max Weber points out, procedural justice results in consistency, predictability and calculability that are desirable aspects of economic and social life. This second value of procedural justice is independent of any value we place on substantive justice and strengthens the argument for the western tradition of emphasizing procedural justice.
A comment on formalism is due here. Marxist writers often criticize the capitalist style rule of law as a sham. In these writers' vocabulary, "formal" is often synonymous with "superficial" and "unreal," and the distinction between formal and substantive justice is turned into a distinction between apparent and real justice. This characterization of rule of law is a gross mis-characterization. In western law, being formal has nothing to do with being superficial or unreal. "At the heart of the word 'formalism' . . . lies the concept of decisionmaking according to rule" (Schauer, 1988, p. 510). Furthermore, being formal is probably the only way through which a juridical order can achieve certain level of rationality. Professor Giovanni Sartori puts this point in more stark terms. "When we speak of 'juridical form' we are singling out the very requisite of a legal order. The form of law and the formal nature of law constitute . . . the characteristics by virtue of which a law is a law. . . . Formal is the method, not the result."
We have discussed three core meanings of the western conception of rule of law. Several caveats are in order. First, we have so far ignored one fundamental question. Those laws that constitute constraints on government arbitrariness and establish formal justice cannot be just any laws. They also have to be "civil" (a la Montesquieu) or just laws in some substantive sense. We have so far left the question, "which laws are civil or just laws?" unanswered. In other words, we have been focusing exclusively on the form of law, not the content of law. This focus is not accidental, because it has been the focus of western jurisprudence in the last one hundred years. In the western system of liberal democracy, the substantive justice (justice in content), or "iustum" in Latin, of law has been guaranteed by a constitutional state. "A large number of constitutional devices are, in effect, intended to create the conditions of a lawmaking process in which ius [the Latin word for law] will remain tied to iustum [what is just], in which law will remain the right law. For this reason legislation is entrusted to elected bodies that must periodically answer to the electorate. And for the same reason we do not give those who are elected to office carte blanche, but we consider them power holders curbed by and bound to a representative role" (Sartori, 1987, pp. 322-323). As such, western jurisprudence could afford to focus exclusively on the form of law.
This exclusive focus on the form of law is, however, also worrisome. Because of the existence of the constitutional guarantee on the substantive justice of law, western jurisprudence has come to have a purely formal definition of law. "Unfortunately . . . the formalistic school of jurisprudence completely overlooks . . . the fact that the formal definition of law presupposes the constitutional state. Therefore, the high level of systematic and technical refinement achieved by this approach cannot save it from the charge of having erected an unsafe juridical edifice open to easy conquest" (Sartori, 1987, p. 323). As such, when we study the western conception of rule of law, we should not forget that western legal scholars have been living in a constitutional state for so long that they are used to forgetting the importance of liberal constitutionalism in guaranteeing the just content of law. We Chinese do not have such luxury -- we do not have a constitutional state yet. When we talk about legality in China, we should not focus only on the form of law; we should also pay particular attention to the content of law. In fact, as we will see in the next essay of this series, without a constitutional state, we probably cannot guarantee anything: neither the content nor the form of law can be guaranteed to be just. In other words, without a constitutional state, neither substantive justice nor procedural justice, either in lawmaking or in the application of law, can be guaranteed. In the next essay, we will therefore spend a good amount of time on liberal constitutionalism.
Second, promoting rule of law does not mean that we should, or can, eliminate rule of person. Literal rule of law has its own costs (such as rigidity) and in some cases it can conflict with our sense of justice. In addition, it is probably impossible to eliminate rule of person completely. After all, laws are not given; they have to be made by certain people. Laws' applications are not automatic; they have to be applied by certain people. Even in the most advanced liberal democratic countries of our time -- the countries that are regarded as having the most developed systems of rule of law -- human factors play important roles in shaping traditions, customs and institutional cultures that are integral parts of the liberal democratic machinery. The real question is not whether we should eliminate or keep rule of person. The real question is about how to strike a balance between rule of law and rule of person so we can achieve liberty, equality, and justice. In this regard, liberal constitutionalism has been the only successful system. "Liberal constitutionalism is the technique of retaining the advantages of [rule of law as well as rule of person] while lessening their respective shortcomings" (Sartori, 1987, p. 308). We will discuss how this is so in the next essay.
We have discussed the meaning and the ideals of rule of law in this essay. In the next essay of this series, we will turn to the implementation of rule of law, particularly liberal constitutionalism.
(The author is an attorney with the New York law firm of Davis Polk & Wardwell.)
References:
1. Dicey, A. V. Introduction to the Study of the Law of the Constitution. Indianapolis: Liberty Fund, 1982.
2. Hayek, Friedrich. The Road to Serfdom. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1994.
3. Holmes, Stephen. Passions and Constraint: On the Theory of Liberal Democracy. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1995.
4. Sartori, Giovanni. The Theory of Democracy Revisited. Chatham, New Jersey: Chatham House, 1987.
5. Schauer, Frederick. "Formalism." Yale Law Journal 97 (1988): 509-548.
6. Selznick, P. Law, Society and Industrial Justice. New York: Russell Sage Foundation, 1969.
7. Shen, Yuanyuan. "Conceptions and Receptions of Legality: Understanding the Complexity of the Law Reform in China." In The Limits of the Rule of Law in China, ed. Karen G. Turner, James V. Feinerman and R. Kent Guy. Seattle: University of Washington Press, 2000.
8. Weber, Max. Economy and Society, ed. G. Roth and R. Wittich. Berkeley: University of California Press, 1978."
Subject: Re: What Is Rule of Law?
From: Mr. Cullinan
To: All
Date Posted: 14:17:51 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: sorrelsteak@yahoo.com
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TO: Mr. B. Karama, Excellent write-up. Rule of law is one of my favorite subjects.
I agreed with most of this post...BUT not the part on procedural justice: The man who committed murder and with his fingerprints known to be on the murder weapon IS STILL guilty of murder regardless of how his confession is obtained. His aquittal is due to what I call, "Candy-ass Justice". We see an excellent example of this in those who argue that the drugs administered in a Death Penalty execution cause undue pain and suffering to the criminal, (gulity of and) being executed for murder. Obviously, this criminal caused much more undue pain and suffering to the victim of his criminal act. In the not so distant past, hanging was the method of execution used, and no criminals, lawyers, etc. complained. The U.S. Justice system has become so soft they are "afraid" to serve TRUE Justice.
This also applies to O.J. Simpson, "If the glove doesn't fit, aquit." He is guilty regardless of the gloves fitting or not. These gloves were planted to obscure the truth. (Of course, the investigation of this case was botched horribly by the L.A.P.D. from day one.)
O.J.'s case shows what a sorry state of affairs the U.S. Criminal Justice System is in. TRUE Justice should be emphasized and pursued, NOT procedural, or substantive justice. (I do see your point on the dangers of going too far.)
Yes, the rule of law MUST be applied consistantly at ALL times. Unfortunately, in the U.S. it is not the case; special treatment is given to the rich and famous, and high-ranking elected officials, e.g. S. Libby, C. Rove, most congressmen, etc. etc.
The rule of law does not make the U.S. Govt. more rational and/or its policies more intelligent, or restrain its abuse of power, and the Bush Admin is an excellent example of this.
I suppose that you could argue that the rule of law is not being applied properly and we have morally bankrupt politicians and lawyers to thank for this. I am looking forward to part 2. Keep up the good work. Mr. C.
Subject: Is APC therefore practicing "rule by person"?
From: Orh Loryah
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Date Posted: 13:45:41 07/25/08 ()
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I definitely think they are. Take the case of State house press secretary's libel case for example...
"The common feature of rule of person is the ethos that "what pleases the ruler(s) is law." That is, under rule of person, there is no limit to what the rulers (the government) can do and how they do things"
What a shame.
Subject: Na udat get the white powder
From: L. Poyo
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Date Posted: 11:31:49 07/25/08 ()
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Den say na Potogee dem get am
But Kono bomba ihn area man den jeb
Mama Gee ihn broda sef jeb
Lamina Poyo ihn broda don jeb
Dee powder don turn jebu
All man dae avoid dee powder
Dee people den wan know
Na oodat get dee powder
Den say dee powder na for den shayma
But shayma nor dae raining season
Den say na painter dem na dee reason
But dee painter den deny dee reason
Den say na Ghaddafi ihn fertilizer
But Ghaddafi say ihn nor to farmer
All man dae take corba
Na oodat get dee powder
Den say dee powder na dry milk
But dee people nor wan run belleh
Den say dee powder na for hade hart
But dee people nor sabi take am
Den say tourist agba go teach dem
But dee people say na dog dae sniff
Dis tem dee malowa nor go shift
Na oodat get dee powder
Subject: I hear in Diplomatic circles that the powder is APC's
From: British Diplomat
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Date Posted: 13:01:55 07/25/08 ()
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We are currently awaiting confessions from some top Government officials. We already have a clear idea of who owns the powder. Someone was even officially and cleverly asking for their property - so we already know.
The truth will come out soon!
Subject: Re: I hear in Diplomatic circles that the powder is APC's
From: D- Circle
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Date Posted: 18:58:39 07/25/08 ()
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That is why IMATT has taken possession of the consignment.
Subject: Re: I hear in Diplomatic circles that the powder is APC's
From: Taveh Gutu
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Date Posted: 13:23:55 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Go scrub your ass on barbed wire and sing the song of pain then the truth will come out!
Subject: Who is Gibril Kamara and Ahmed Sesay?
From: zakmal
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Date Posted: 10:56:56 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
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Can a probing jounalist or jounalists based in freetown do a story about these two characters as inquiry minds wants to know. Their life stories would make a great read especially the rags to riches part of the story.How did they acquire such wealth and power under the noses of the authorities? How did they maneuver their way to the corridors of power? These are questions that need answers in short order.
Subject: Profile GK & Ahmed
From: Salone CIA
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Date Posted: 09:32:11 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: investigatorsl@yahoo.com
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Both Gibril Kamara and Ahmed Sesay hail from humble Northern families, and are "business partners". Its definitely new money - cocaine money to be precise that have made both very rich men. Both are get rich quick drug pushers.
Gibril Kamara (aka GK)
GK is a high school dropout. He migrated to Europe and began his drug career in Germany in the 90s.
He is the major link in the investigative chain - he most likely has irrefutable proof of Top Government officials' involvement in this mess. Was he allowed to leave town so that the truth will never be known?
GK and some of the South Americans arrested were frequent visitors to State House, VP Sumana's Office to be very precise. The State House log book have their names on several pages. GK has been introduced by VP Sumana on several occasions as his 'Business Associate". I'll leave that for you to figure what business.
His vehicle (GK001) is the notorious jeep that broke the airpoort perimeter fence to rescue the cocaine plane crew. He maintained warehouses at the Eastend of freetown (Kissy) and have several money laundering investments around Freetown
GK is pretty much a 'Bomba' and spent scores of thousands of dollars on the APC party. It is even believed by many inner circle pundits, that GK helped Sumana buy the VP slot from HE Ernest Koroma. GK is also a close friend of IG Acha Kamara - some say they even share Binkolo roots. This may have enabled GK, like Johnny Paul Koroma befoe him, to escape leaving no trails behind.
Ahmed Sesay
Ahmed did not go to Uni, although some have argued that he was smart enough had he chosen to. He emigrated to Europe in the Early 90s, and launched his hustling career in UK - conning loan officers @ Banks. He later started his drug dealing in Germany, (90s), as a mule and pusher, after 'heat' in UK forced him to leave town in a hurry.
He is brother of the Transport Minister, which may have given him enormous leverage in arranging for prerequisite refueling for the small cesna plane. He most likely was engaged in previous deals like this. Kemoh is fully aware. Whether he si
Ahmed is also Western Area APC campaign manager, which says a lot about this fundraising Cocaine trafficking exercise, and why Government Officials are jittery. He is known to have been a major contributor to the APC pre & post elections. His connection with APC Central Committee members like Victor Foh, VP Sumana, Alpha Kanu et al is particularly note worthy.
These connections protected his busines and even facilitated dastardly moves like what we sam on the 13th July @ Lungi.
Subject: Re: Profile GK & Ahmed
From: Man Pikin
To: All
Date Posted: 18:31:21 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: man_pikin@yahoo.com
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The connection between G.K. and V.P. Sam Sumana is through G.K.'s sister who is here in Maryland.
Subject: Re: Who is Gibril Kamara and Ahmed Sesay?
From: Soulja boy Tellem
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Date Posted: 16:17:31 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Temne drug dealers
Subject: Re: Who is Gibril Kamara and Ahmed Sesay?
From: HASSAN KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 15:56:40 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: KAMSON10@HOTMAIL.COM
Entered From: dsl092-165-252.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net at 66.92.165.252
Message:
Zakal,
Ask the SLPp those questions. They got their money during the SLPP government. In addition to asking about their profile, i would also like to know their political affiliation.
Subject: Forum Info
From: Forum Advice
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Date Posted: 10:09:06 07/25/08 ()
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FYI
Victim of fake Facebook profile wins libel suit
A British businessman won damages against an old school friend
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25840728/wid/11915829?GT1=40006
Subject: FRIDAY'S SERMON=Kutba
From: Seray-Wurie
To: All
Date Posted: 09:38:29 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: static-71-249-186-75.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.249.186.75
Message:
" The Prophet Muhammad(S.A.W.)was in Makkah for thirteen years before leaving for Madina. It was in his second year in Madina that he received the revelation for fasting in Ramadan." I quote..Imaam Alhaji Shiekh Muhammad Al-Amin Turay of Limba Central Mosque In Freetown...
Subject: Re: FRIDAY'S SERMON=Kutba
From: HASSAN KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 15:58:20 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: KAMSON10@HOTMAIL.COM
Entered From: dsl092-165-252.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net at 66.92.165.252
Message:
Alpha ar nor dae yerri from u any more. Watin dae hapin.
Subject: Re: FRIDAY'S SERMON=Kutba
From: Cocorioko's Secular Imam
To: All
Date Posted: 10:00:05 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-228-11.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.228.11
Message:
Please it will do all of us in the forum a lot of good if you kindly provide a detailed version of the Khutbah.In the absence of a written or english piece, the onus is on you to make your own contribution by either translating or making a compilation for the benefit of those concerned.I believe it takes only a few minutes and eureka you are on your way to Jannat.Cheers!
Subject: Infant And Underfive Mortality Is On The Rise
From: Premier News
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Date Posted: 09:31:11 07/25/08 ()
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Premier News
Infant And Underfive Mortality Is On The Rise
By Desmond Lewis
(Friday 25 July, 2008)
Despite Governments commitments to reach the Millennium Development goals (MDG) and make the World fit for children (WFFC) to reduce infant and under-five mortality and Government’s maternal “strategic plan” with a focus to eradicate overlaps in the reproductive health sector, it has not worked.
Our investigations discovered that children and women continue to die at random in hospitals around the country.
The Princess Christian Maternity Hospital (PCMH) locally known as ‘Cottage’, is one hospital where children face a bleak future.
The hospital which supposed to be the main training and referrals unit for obstetrics in the country is currently facing many problems including finance. Our investigations reveal that not a single cent was given to the hospital as subsidy since last year.
It was also revealed that no drugs as cost recovery has been sent to the hospital since last year, forcing the pharmacy to close and patients have to purchase prescribed drugs at high costs outside.
The hospital is also short of water.
Despite several complaints and reports, nothing has been done.
PCMH lacks quality care, this needs to be addressed as just a handful of nurses were found watching Nigeria films, eating and sitting discussing late payment of salaries and conditions of service.
Premier News discovered that from January to December 2007, 120 infants died at the hospital with 1,438 admission and from January to April this year, 63 had already died out of 970 admissions with the statistics showing that every two days, a child’s life is lost at this hospital.
Matron Rosaline Momoh confirmed the rise of maternal death in the country. She stated that there are many causes for these deaths, but the biggest course is late referrals.
She went on to state that majority of births are supervised by untrained and inexperienced Traditional Birth Attendants and the menace of unregistered clinics with unqualified personnel operating in the country.
She revealed that these people have no basic facilities to treat complications and they will keep patients for hours or days before rushing them to PCMH thinking that magic would occur “and the best we can do in such cases, is to save the woman’s life”, she said.
She stated that many of the women are not getting proper medical advice.
“They do not come to a see a medical doctor but depend heavily on these TBA’S and by the time they gets here, it’s too late.
She confirmed that the hospital is struggling for finance, and it is only surviving by the daily intake from patients.
“The hospital is also short on drugs, for some time now cost recovery drugs have been supplied to this hospital since last year”. she stated.
She said that the hospital survived on drugs mainly supplied from UNFPA and other NGO’s for emergencies purposes only.
“Criminal abortion is another factor that is affecting the maternal child health care system” she stated.
She went on to state that few weeks ago, there was a case about a class 6 pupil who almost lost her life.
She stated that people are using the hospital as a ‘last station’.
The Clinical Services Manager Marie Stopes, Mrs. Monica Greene revealed that the infant mortality rate is rising in the country because of lack of education and policy implementation from Government are the major stakeholders.
“Our public needs education about the use of hospitals and benefits they get” she said.
Mrs. Greene went on to state that once Government has implemented a policy, and people know the weight behind it, the untrained and inexperienced will take precaution because they know that if such things happen, they will be held responsible.
She sighted bleeding and Eclampsia (pressure) as the most dangerous complications, as TBA’S will not be able to treat such cases.
She said stubbornness is an other cause, citing an incident were then mobile team identified a woman at No. 2 river with her eight pregnancy.
She was given a prescribed UNFPA cord for free treatment at Marie Stopes but on arrival after check-up, she was to be admitted but refused and instead left for her sister’s house at Murray Town where she gave birth, with the child already dead.
She started bleeding and had to be rushed to hospital, where she was treated.
She also stated that most of them go the traditional way without consulting a doctor.
“Blood is a major problem”, she stated. And it is very difficult to get it in time of emergencies.
Marie Stopes, she stated, is setting up there own blood bank as blood donation needs improvement, she revealed.
She stated that about 10 babies and 3 mothers have lost their lives at Marie Stopes this year.
Subject: What A Way To Vote?
From: Premier News
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Date Posted: 09:26:34 07/25/08 ()
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Premier News
Editorial
The Local council elections are over. The results have been announced and sadly though, the event has been allowed to pass without any much notice being paid to it. Read More
What A Way To Vote?
The Local council elections are over. The results have been announced and sadly though, the event has been allowed to pass without any much notice being paid to it.
The reason is not far-fetched as the cocaine-plane overshadowed all other topics this week.
This shows how serious the people of this country take their privacy which was invaded by the sudden appearance of an unscheduled and unannounced plane-load of trouble.
However, we still cannot allow the results of the elections to go by without commenting on it.
When the National Electoral Commission made the announcement, there was very little surprise at the outcome.
Everyone expected the APC to win in the Western Area, the North and in Kono where the opposition had been cowed before the elections to the point that only APC symbols dotted the Kono landscape.
Kono did not tolerate any opposition, so the APC carried the day.
They had been used to supporting the Government of the day and also the area was a strategic ground for the APC, as it is the birth-place of the Vice President, Chief Sam Sumana.
The Bo results did not produced the tension that marked the last General Elections, as it appeared the SLPP had either regrouped or somehow settled their family squabbles which caused them to lose the General Elections and power.
The PMDC did not perform as well as expected and even had to struggle with the Independents.
After their performance at the last General elections it was expected that they would move on to become stronger but we have noticed that the party is losing grounds to the SLPP in areas where it was supposed to hold sway.
Although these areas too were supposed to be SLPP strongholds, the PMDC had made a big dent in the popularity ratings of the SLPP way back in August and September last year.
Barely a year later, the tide seems to have turned.
We do not believe that is the way to vote for development because if the country is broken into factions of solidarity for tribe or brother, development will always elude us.
We are only appealing to Government not to allow that to happen.
The Government is a Government responsible for the State of Sierra Leone and we should not allow party affiliations of councils to hold back the oil that helps the wheel of progress to move forward.
We should be our brother’s keeper whether they voted for us or not.
Maybe the disgruntled SLPP stalwarts who had switched over to the PMDC did not see any reason for carrying on the fight.
However, taking the whole results pattern into consideration, we do not believe that is
Subject: President Koroma gives concubine Ram K $150k contract
From: Uman Lappa Senior
To: All
Date Posted: 08:56:31 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: musukaloko@yahoo.com
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Mr Bride has finally decided that this Zero Tolerance to corruption business is only for "white pipul" and that he is going back to his roots in Bombali and openly start 'supporting' his numerous galfirends.
To mark this dastardly statement, Mr Bride, only few days ago instructed the Ministry of Finance to award a $149,000 contract to supply 'spares for trasmitters' for our ailing NPA, whilst folks are focused on the Cocaine drama. The award of such contract violates every fibre of the Procurement Act and is a disgrace to all those who trumpet the so called "zero tolerance to corrupotion" (including Mr Bride 'herself'). State house sources have opined that "dae Paa say fambul dem sef for chop gof'ment korpor... even side bet den sef (concubines).
This dull fella is going to take our country to the cleaners.
APC blind supporters can call NASSIT , MoF to confirm this dastardly conduct of our clueless Cocaine President. Also check:
http://standardtimespress.net/cgi-bin/artman/publish/article_2575.shtml
Subject: Re: President Koroma gives concubine Ram K $150k contract
From: Gorngorli Wan Yaiye
To: All
Date Posted: 10:31:34 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-228-11.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.228.11
Message:
Paddy if ee hart you go sleep nar torgbombu or you cham hundred bonga hayd. Where were you when SLPP was in power? Did you make the same noise when Kabba was awarding contracts to his present wife? And you never questioned John Karimu and John Benjamin.Boy don't make a caricature of yourself!
Subject: Re: President Koroma gives concubine Ram K $150k contract
From: Mark Williams Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 10:15:27 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: markwillo@yahoo.com
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Message:
This is embarassing. His whole clarion call against corruption has just being mere rhetoric. I am sure he is going to get more daring and reckless as he becomes blinded by power.
Salone we sorry fuss yah
Subject: Re: President Koroma gives concubine Ram K $150k contract
From: Investigator
To: All
Date Posted: 16:35:41 07/25/08 ()
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Message:
Whaat crimes you are alleging here? ...Are you assuming that citizens and genuine businesses linked to politicians cannot seek to win government contracts? ....what is your point?
Subject: Re: President Koroma gives concubine Ram K $150k contract
From: HASSAN KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 16:01:18 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: KAMSON10@HOTMAIL.COM
Entered From: dsl092-165-252.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net at 66.92.165.252
Message:
I hope you will not drink custic soda to kill yourself because will are going to reign for the rest of your youthful days.
Subject: Cocaine suspects
From: Jo Freetown
To: All
Date Posted: 08:37:59 07/25/08 ()
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Message:
What are the chances these suspects receive bail? I would think if they are free on bail, they are as good as gone
Will the suspects be charged under the "new, tougher drug laws" that are being proposed this week?
Or is it too late to try ths suspects under the new laws?
Subject: Re: Cocaine suspects
From: Sam
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Date Posted: 09:33:45 07/25/08 ()
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They were denied bail
Subject: Re: Cocaine suspects
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 09:43:02 07/25/08 ()
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As i understand it..
It is unlawful to charge anyone retrospectively....
You can only charge criminals with whats in the books at the time the crime was committed..
Subject: Re: Cocaine suspects
From: Glenn A. Sankoh
To: All
Date Posted: 23:09:01 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: glennsankoh@bellsouth.net
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I am interested in finding out who they are and their nationalities. The owner/s, pilots, and crew members of the plane used for transporting the illegal drugs should be charged too.
Subject: Sierra Leone: No Duty Waiver for FPU
From: FPU
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Date Posted: 08:13:54 07/25/08 ()
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Concord Times (Freetown)
24 July 2008
Posted to the web 25 July 2008
Rachel Horner
Freetown
National revenue authority Wednesday disclosed that no duty waiver will be granted to the Fullah progressive union (FPU).
Speaking to journalists in Freetown Alieu Sesay said "no duty waiver for FPU or else I will go to jail for three years." It could be recalled that the ministry of health and sanitation has applied for a duty free concession for medical equipment meant for the Bo and Kono government hospitals from the FPU United States branch.
Sesay said he can not change the law or bend the rules because if he failed to make money for the government he would be jailed.
"FPU is not entitled to duty waiver. It has to respect the law. I am going to hold on it until otherwise," he said.
He noted that only the executive will see that NRA grant concession waiver for the two containers or the ministry of health covers the bill.
"The FPU should register as a local branch in Freetown but it cannot sit in the USA and ask for duty free concession here," he said and confirmed that he has received calls and correspondences from the minister of health asking for free concession for the medical items.
"According to the finance act 2006, for the avoidance of any doubt, a government ministry or department shall be liable to pay import duty on its imports," he stressed.
Sesay said the laws would not be changed for anyone and called on the ministry to go to cabinet or parliament to seek executive waiver if at all the consignment was beneficial to the ministry of health.
He said the holding on to the containers has nothing to do with politics adding that since January the government has not received any support from donors.
Financial Secretary of FPU in Atlanta Georgia USA Alphajoh Cham told Concord Times via telephone interview that they were aware of the fact that they were not registered as a local non governmental organization.
"That was why we went through the ministry of health, but the ministry did not help us with executive orders," he said.
Cham said they sent letter to parliament and the office of the president for them to help in obtaining duty free concession for the consignment.
"We are requesting for an executive order so that the container would be released," he said.
Subject: Hi Adu Conteh
From: Dr. Nahim
To: All
Date Posted: 08:04:45 07/25/08 ()
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Hello Chez Winakabs Adu Conteh. How is life? Hehehehehehe
Subject: Re: Hi Adu Conteh
From: Adu conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 10:40:38 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: adu@hotmail.com
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Message:
Dr Nahim,
I am ok but am dissappointed in EBK. If he does not want to sack Khemoh sesay, he can move the guy to another ministry such as education. How can Khemoh continue to hold the ministry after such scandal under his watch. I despised Ahmed Kabba as a politician but he suspended prince harding when the plane crashed that killed Togolese football supporters.
Subject: EBK + Kemoh Cocaine Scandal = J S Momoh Part II
From: British Diplomat
To: All
Date Posted: 13:12:40 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: markwillo@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
Sierra Leone is back where it was in the late 80s. JS Momoh has been reincarnated;Deja vu!
Subject: BRAVO cocorioko for the Pic - more please
From: BRAVO cocorioko for the Pic - more please
To: All
Date Posted: 07:47:17 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: bobsonmans69@btinternet.com
Entered From: 5ac57dca.bb.sky.com at 90.197.125.202
Message:
Well done cocorioko for being the first online newspaper to publish picture of GK - the wanted man. Job well done. Could we have more. I can categorically say GK once lived in Holland and he was no saint there. I personally read all the online newspapapers every day. You are my second best after Standard times. I like standard times because of its uncompromising attitude no matter the government of the day. However, i believe your newspaper will evolve and will go places. Keep it up.
Subject: Re: BRAVO cocorioko for the Pic - more please
From: bobsonmans
To: All
Date Posted: 07:52:33 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: bobsonmans69@btinternet.com
Entered From: 5ac57dca.bb.sky.com at 90.197.125.202
Message:
Well done cocorioko for being the first online newspaper to publish picture of GK - the wanted man. Job well done. Could we have more. I can categorically say GK once lived in Holland and he was no saint there. I personally read all the online newspapapers every day. You are my second best after Standard times. I like standard times because of its uncompromising attitude no matter the government of the day. However, i believe your newspaper will evolve and will go places. Keep it up.
Subject: Re: BRAVO cocorioko for the Pic - more please
From: Dr. Abdul Nahim
To: All
Date Posted: 08:31:35 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ac202-058.resnet.stonybrook.edu at 130.245.202.58
Message:
Hello Bobsomans Chez Winakabs Europe. Borbor, you no go blow with then handle ya so. Hey Chez, you na star.
Subject: DID REV REALLY HAD THE PIC OF GK TO ONLY SHOW NOW?
From: bagbo
To: All
Date Posted: 08:09:05 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: bagbo@limba.com
Entered From: wnpgmb1303w-ad03-43-116.dynamic.mts.net at 142.161.43.116
Message:
Rev. sometimes,i like you and trust you been rev. but i am again so afraid of you.You seems to be very deep.
Subject: Re: DID REV REALLY HAD THE PIC OF GK TO ONLY SHOW NOW?
From: OKDOK
To: All
Date Posted: 10:01:57 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
OK DOK, leave the Rev. alone.You never praise him.
Subject: "Write good stories about Sierra Leone"
From: zakmal
To: All
Date Posted: 07:25:38 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-178-217-6.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.178.217.6
Message:
The deputy minister of information chastises the media to write good things about sierra leone. Does he not have access to the internet to read cocorioko, patriotic vanguard with all the positive news about sierra leone? What he should be worried about is the lack of progress on this government's part to make a diferrence in the lives of the people Every problem is blamed on a global phenomenon. Of course, I do applaud the availability of electricity as the lack of it has been a pet peeve of mine for a very long time. However,besides this accomplishment what else has been done to brag about. Cutting ribbons in opening ceremonies of new banks that started under the previous regime?By the way do we know how well capitlized are these banks?Also,is our central bank competent enough to provide complete oversight of all these new banks? Finishing roads that started under the prvious regime? Signing agreements that were negioted under the pevious regime?
When are we going to see negotiantions commence to construct a new airport? When are we going to see an outreach to businesmen like Robert Johnson of BET who is now building a hotel resort in neighboring Liberia opening in march 2009. I bet dignitaries from sierra leone would be invited to the opening ceremonies and they would return home embarrased like Julius Spencer and yet do nothing about it.Mr minister please look in the mirror the next time you ponder such refrain.
Subject: Re: "Write good stories about Sierra Leone"
From: HASSAN KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 09:00:50 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: KAMSON10@HOTMAIL.COM
Entered From: dsl092-165-252.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net at 66.92.165.252
Message:
Mr. Zakal you also failed to mention the progress made in cleaning the City.
Subject: Hassan K are you on drugs?
From: British Diplomat
To: All
Date Posted: 11:34:42 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: markwillo@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
"Mr. Zakal you also failed to mention the progress made in cleaning the City" HK
Hassan you must be on something, mabybe the APC cocaine powder. Do you know how filthy Freetown is? Or is the current fith and dirt your idea of a clean city? Thats simply disgraceful.
Subject: Re: Hassan K are you on drugs?
From: HASSAN KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 16:17:30 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: KAMSON10@HOTMAIL.COM
Entered From: dsl092-165-252.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net at 66.92.165.252
Message:
Probaly you have not been there lately, the City is better than it was. Any way i don't take drugs. Its your SLPP supporters that take drugs
Subject: Re: "Write good stories about Sierra Leone"
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 09:15:56 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-231-21-144.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.231.21.144
Message:
That is part of the responsibilities of the Mayor and the entire city council management to keep the city clean and provide essential services.No one is going to commend them for that.Our job is to point out what is not done that ought to be done.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Re: "Write good stories about Sierra Leone"
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 08:07:28 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-231-21-144.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.231.21.144
Message:
Mr.Zakmal,what he is really trying to convey but nontheless he lacks the cognitive ability to do is aking us to write what he wants to read ,by praising them all the time regardless of their horrendous performances.
Naturally there are some people who will genuflect before and sing their praises no matter what ,but he fails to realize that not all Sierra Leoneans are of such mentality.
I hope you get my point sir.It is now left with you and your conscience to see whether you fall in the category of the army of sycophants.I know for fact you are not in that class.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Killing democracy in Koinadugu is S.L.P.P. mess...?
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 06:20:08 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: soriejawara@verizon.com
Entered From: pool-72-75-114-147.washdc.east.verizon.net at 72.75.114.147
Message:
Crude politicians and S.L.P.P.S' dirty politics in Koinadugu will be defeated and democracy will prevail. Many Koinaduguans worked so hard for democracy though S.L.P.P. acted eratically like a wild senseless beast, torturing paramount chiefs, tribal authorities and parents of A.P.C. supporters. This is a well known history that will not be forgotten and it will always serve as driving power for many Koinaduguans to continue struggling for fairness and prevailng of democracy in Koinadugu. If many Sierra Leoneans are talking and striving hard to sustain democracy then democracy should be given an excellent chance to cherish from top to bottom. There are power hungry elements who believe democracy should not be given any chance in Koinadugu . One such evil element is councilor John F.D. Koroma in Diang Chiefdom, he convinced himself to believe that , with support from S.L.P.P. he will destroy democracy and claim power. John Koroma's political strategy with his S.L.P.P. has failed and it will remain that way until he understands Koinadugu politics . Manufacturing lies and making malicious allegations focussed at eradicating a democratically elected paramount chief displays his devilish character and his
S.L.P.P. He was able to use S.L.P.P. AND S.L.P.P. was able to use him to kill democracy and cause serious upheavals in Diang, but see the results; A young A.P.C. man defeated his strong man right in his village, the fabricated devilish lies have been investigated and no wrong doings found, PC MAGBA KOROMA 111 IS NOT GUILTY ...NOT GUILTY. I hope president Koroma will understand , Killing democracy in Koinadugu will not be accepted, hooliganism will be repelled with hoolignism and blood with blood. THE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PARAMOUNT CHIEF ,Paramount chief Magba Koroma the Third Must prevail.
Subject: Re: Killing democracy in Koinadugu is S.L.P.P. mess...?
From: Mohamed Barrie
To: All
Date Posted: 06:25:07 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: ncsneak@aol.com
Entered From: 24-181-27-97.dhcp.smyr.ga.charter.com at 24.181.27.97
Message:
Can you please elaborate on how they killed democracy in koinadugu.I know all the players that you are talking about.I have to defend DF koroma here.When he was a big wig at KIADP,he apent all his time developing kondembia and hired anyone from that region.For you to point fingers at him and accuse him of killing democracy in that region is out of line.Magba on the other hand is a total loser.All who know him will attest to that.I went to school with him and I know his academic standing and people who knew him in Maryland can tell you more.Koinadugu has its own problem, but democracy has never been to that district.The district is divided into tribal areas since independence.
Subject: Re: Killing democracy in Koinadugu is S.L.P.P. mess...?
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 13:35:14 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: soriejawara@verizon.com
Entered From: pool-141-156-240-168.res.east.verizon.net at 141.156.240.168
Message:
Mohamed Barrie, Killing democracy is rejecting the will of the people.I know Magba and his good qualities, councilor John F.D. Koroma is the failure.Why was he unable to win any viable election in Koinadugu except councilor ship? Let John take his cutlass and do some serious farming . Magba Koroma is the legitimate democratically elected paramount chief.
Subject: Re: Killing democracy in Koinadugu is S.L.P.P. mess...?
From: Musu Marrah
To: All
Date Posted: 09:42:36 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: yei2003@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 212.41.142.242
Message:
Mr. Jawara has been an advocate for a corrupt free Sierra Leone. His postings both at Awareness Times Forum and this Forum were all seen in that direction. But alas, he is a Sierra Leonean. One common characteristics we have in Sierra Leone is we are very good at opposing when the "ball is in the other man's court". But hence it is against our interest, our venoms come shooting. Was it wrong for the SLPP to have suspended your paramount chief Mabga to allow an independent investigation when his own subject accused him of corruptions? Didn’t you write in AT forum praising President Kabba when Prince Harding was suspended to facilitae fair investigations into the Plane crashed? He was exonerated under this political dispensation. This is what has happened to Magba. If his subjects are saying they are not satisfied with the outcome of the investigations what has the SLPP got to do with it? You are not on the ground, we are and we know what we are talking about. Please suspending and reinstating authorities to allow unfettered investigations are all part and parcel of democracy as long as it is for the good of the society.
Subject: Re: Killing democracy in Koinadugu is S.L.P.P. mess...?
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:55:14 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: soriejawara@verizon.com
Entered From: pool-72-75-122-36.washdc.east.verizon.net at 72.75.122.36
Message:
Thank you Musu , I never mentioned any thing about Harding because I knew nothing about his case.Here is what is wrong with S.L.P.P.,some decisions are poorly carried out without second thoughts and this is totally wrong. No decent government should act in a ruthless way on paramount chief issues without investigating allegations. Paramount chiefs were brutalized, dehumanized and exiled in a crude manner. S.L.P.P.( Albert Margai) exiled chief Gbawuru Mansaray without investigating any of the alleged issues such as illegal collection of market dues,sale of land,over taxing taxpayers etc. The core issue was hidden,he allowed and encourage A.P.C. to hold a meeting for the first time in Koinadugu. Magba's issue is similar , Why was no invesigation held before he was removed and within three years? I am not from Diang but I have challenged so many issues concerning mistreatment of paramount chiefs, A.P.C. had hell from me when attempts were made to force out some paramount chiefs because they did not take oath of loyalty. We have to point out the truth when government or any political party blunders.
There are always disgruntled elements ,therefore it is the responsibility of a decent government to deal with issues properly. Do we have to do things the way the colonial bastards did ? Ok Musu Marah ,thank you, ARE YOU KOINADUGUAN?
Subject: Under the new APC, will the playing field be even this time?
From: Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas
To: All
Date Posted: 01:10:33 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-96-255-102-206.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.255.102.206
Message:
"...I had nothing against the emerging Limba group because, (to be totally honest), I personally gained from their nepotistic practices by getting a foreign scholarship ahead of more deserving Sierra Leoneans simply because of my connections to the Limba inner circle. I will not name names because some of the people are family members who are my benefactors..." (Saidu B. Turay, Ph.D, USA)
Subject: Cocorioko is really the best , like it or not
From: Observer
To: All
Date Posted: 00:44:32 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Cocorioko is really the best newspaper online. Only in cocorioko have I been able to see the photo of the cocaine king, GK and the wanted poster for him. Only cocorioko made me know today that the drug suspects had been charged to court. Because we are ungrateful, we don't seem to give Cocorioko the commendation it deserves.Some of you are just full of negativity. You see what we see but you don't say it.
Subject: Re: Cocorioko is really the best , like it or not
From: Chez winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 05:25:29 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-168-205-237.range86-168.btcentralplus.com at 86.168.205.237
Message:
You are worthy of more praises than you may want to solicit. The
world knows hat Cocorioko, in spite of their partisan link, commands
the respect for bringing news of home live and direct. He that has a
talent to influence does not need to beg to be recognised. You are
great and proclaiming your mediatude would fall on deaf ears in your
homeland. Take this:
SIDI: These thoughts of future wonders - do you buy them
Or merely go mad and dream of them?
LAKUNLE: A prophet has honor except
In his own home. Wise men have been called mad
Before and after, many more shall be
So abused. But to answer you, the measure
Is not entirely of my own coinage.
What I boast is known in Lagos, the city
Of magic, in Banagry where Saro women bathe
In gold, even in smaller towns less than
Twelve miles from here.
SIDI: Well go there. Go to these places where
Women would understand you.
If you told them of your plans with which
You oppress me daily. Do you not know
What name they give you here?
(from The Lion and the Jewel)
Greater will be Cocorioko if Cocorioko deems itself a force to reckon
with.
Salut!!
Subject: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma experiences the Doctor's SHOCK AND AWE
From: Chiefdom Police
To: All
Date Posted: 00:42:22 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-96-255-102-206.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.255.102.206
Message:
A few years ago, several medical researches were studying the effect of the shocks of life on the central nervous system. They took an "okuru dog" (Mohamed Kutubu Koroma)and placed it in an enclosure( The Cocorioko Forum) by itself/himself. They then hooked up electric shock devices around the enclosure. As the "okuru dog" wondered to one side of the enclosure, the "researches allowed" Dr. Curtis-Thomas to throw a switch and Mohamed Kutubu Koroma was SHOCKED! Immediately He TWITCHED and SCAMPERED to another part of the enclosure. Dr. Curtis-Thomas shocked the "okuru dog" again. AGAIN Mohamed Kutubu Koroma RAN!
As the research continued, The researchers discovered that Mohamed Kutubu Koroma would never return to a place where he had been previously shocked by Dr. Curtis-Thomas. After a series of shocks, the "okuru dog" just stood in the center of the enclosure, QUIVERING. The "okuru dog" had no place to run...and no place to hide. The shocks were everywhere. Completely overcome emotionally, filled with anxiety and stress...his nerves gave way, and poor Mohamed Kutubu Koroma had to be placed on medication "so that ee nor go lost track"!
Subject: Re: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma experiences the Doctor's SHOCK AND AWE
From: Fun-loving observer
To: All
Date Posted: 00:51:16 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-96-255-102-206.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.255.102.206
Message:
Posted by Fan of Curtis on July 24, 2008 at 10:28:28:
In Reply to: Remembering posted by Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas on July 24, 2008 at 10:15:12:
"Now that you have appeared, some people are already quaking in their holes for fear of those precision-guided 500 pound laser bombs. MKK, you dae tremble eh? You masta don cam!"
Subject: ZAINAB BANGURA BLUNDERS AGAIN
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 23:32:56 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-231-21-144.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.231.21.144
Message:
ANOTHER DIPLOMATIC BLUNDER BY FOREIGN MINISTER ZAINAB BANGURA OVER THE ILLEGAL DRUGS CONTROVERSY:
In today’s Niagara of bad news in the illegal drugs saga,the melancholy fact that Zainab Bangura is still at the helm of the nation’s foreign policy is fundamentally troubling to say the least.
Report in all the papers accuses he of “lying”about FBI,and Scotland Yard participation in the ongoing musical chairs in this ever growing scandal.
It is unconscionable for a Foreign Minister to turn a national tragedy of this proportion to a joking matter considering the national security and foreign policy imperatives.
The question though,why does the Foreign Minister has to misrepresent the facts?Does this not only accentuate the constant criticism of her fundamental lack of ability for the awesome responsibilities inherent for that office?
As the articulator of the nation’s foreign policy,there are certain facts of life that cannot be looked at askance such as the credibility of the nation,and the performance of those whose job is to explain to the outside world the foreign policy objectives of the sovereign nation of Sierra Leone.
The Minister frankly is becoming irrelevant and ridiculous everyday in the performance of her duties.There is the issue of Tibet which up till now she has not been able to articulate a cohesive and tangible position as to where the nation stands on a delicate subject like that.Compounding that at the time the nation is at such critical cross roads with violations of its territorial integrity and no way forward,she is busy talking about her new furniture from funds donated by foreign source.
The accumulative effects on the country’s standing in the geopolitics is becoming a huge embarrassment as we have a Foreign Minister who cannot relate to her intractable responsibilities.
I think the panacea for such imbalance is for the president to think about the image and good of the country and reassign his Foreign Minister to a less visible position with immediate dispatch before she exacerbates an already complex problem.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA BLUNDERS AGAIN
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 01:40:16 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
The ability to accept constructive criticism comes very easily when the person offering the criticism is doing so in an effort to help, not hurt as in "making an ass of herself".
I hope, my friend, this is the beginning of a whole new attitude towards those you disagree with.
Congratulation!!!
Subject: AUNTY ZAIN SHOULD RESIGN FOR SHAMELESSLY LYING TO THE WORLD
From: Mike Kabia
To: All
Date Posted: 06:13:44 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: mikekabia67@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
This is another national disgrace. Did she really have to lie like that? Did'nt she know that the whole world is tuned in on this cocaine saga.
I really do not blame Aunty Zain...one can never squeeze water out of stone. Its all the fault of the Insurance Trader tantchellor Mr Bride who, with all the zillions of options available, decided, my bare literate Aunty should be given this frontline role. Mr Bride is it because she is Themne?
Bo lef for embarass we nation bo. You are not going to be in power forever, so please remember life after power... Sierra Leone can be brutally punishing to lacklustre Presidents. Don't say you were not warned.
Subject: The illiterate Mohamed Kutubu Koroma, calls She "he"!
From: Chief In Exile
To: All
Date Posted: 23:59:59 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-96-255-102-206.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.255.102.206
Message:
"...Report in all the papers accuses HE of “lying”about FBI,and Scotland Yard participation in the ongoing musical chairs in this ever growing scandal."
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________
FUNCTIONAL ILLITERATE!
Subject: Re: The illiterate Mohamed Kutubu Koroma, calls She "he"!
From: MKK's Fan
To: All
Date Posted: 03:05:13 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-147-232-71.range86-147.btcentralplus.com at 86.147.232.71
Message:
MKK meant - Her Excellency!!!!
Subject: Re: The illiterate Mohamed Kutubu Koroma, calls She "he"!
From: chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 02:18:12 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-168-205-237.range86-168.btcentralplus.com at 86.168.205.237
Message:
LOL- too personal!! I believe you know he left out the 'r' by typo error.
Subject: Re: The illiterate Mohamed Kutubu Koroma, calls She "he"!
From: Kalos
To: All
Date Posted: 14:05:49 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 192.64.157.56
Message:
Thanks, Chez.
Subject: Re: The illiterate Mohamed Kutubu Koroma, calls She "he"!
From: John
To: All
Date Posted: 07:06:53 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-255-233-68.washdc.east.verizon.net at 71.255.233.68
Message:
Chez, it is really too personal. Curtis-Thomas apparently does not like MKK. I hope Curtis changes his attitude and adopts a live and let's live stance.
Subject: Re: The illiterate Mohamed Kutubu Koroma, calls She "he"!
From: Chiefdom Elders
To: All
Date Posted: 00:07:25 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-96-255-102-206.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.255.102.206
Message:
Posted by Fan of Curtis on July 24, 2008 at 10:28:28:
In Reply to: Remembering posted by Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas on July 24, 2008 at 10:15:12:
"Now that you have appeared, some people are already quaking in their holes for fear of those precision-guided 500 pound laser bombs. MKK, you dae tremble eh? You masta don cam!"
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________
You forgot to add "bunker-penetrating bomb, that can smoke terrorists from their holes"!(Chiefdom Elders)
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Subject: RANDOM MUSING - The 'Coke' and Bull Story: Heads Must Roll
From: Professor Peep
To: All
Date Posted: 23:28:47 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ac202-058.resnet.stonybrook.edu at 130.245.202.58
Message:
Peep Magazine
RANDOM MUSING - The 'Coke' and Bull Story: Heads Must Roll
Thursday, July 24, 2008 -
By: Raymond Awoonor-Gordon
awogordon@yahoo.co.uk
The guffaws are unbelievable.
The tinge of arrogance in the midst of blissful ignorance is palpable.
The levity, with which some of those who parade themselves as leaders of our beloved Sierra Leone are handling such a sensitive and potentially image-damaging issue as the cocaine drama, is notoriously depressive.
And it amuses me to see the careless belligerence on display by the Ministers of Information; I.B.Kargbo; Aviation, Kemoh Sesay and Foreign Affairs, Zainab Bangura, amongst other highly placed officials.
The dry and tasteless humour as well as some crass utterances and the ridiculous defence by the man in charge of our airspace, practically had me in tears.
Maybe it does and has not occurred to them that the handling of the whole incident will either dispel or underline rumours about some of the personnel in the administration as well as some criminal conspiracy theory.
To be frank, if government’s glasshouse is not shattered, lock; stock and barrel, by the end of this saga, then there is something seriously and fundamentally wrong somewhere.
The whole episode casts aspersions on the capabilities and effectiveness of some ministerial holders. It challenges the very existence of the administration. It exposes the flaws in the government’s grasp of the very art of governance, the issue at stake and the inherent implications.
Above all, it questions the very integrity of the Head of State to do what he promised the whole country; that he will protect and uphold the sanctity of the nation above all else.
The beat of the drum from some officials who have continued to display a steady, virtuous level of mediocrity is unfortunately at variance with the President’s own melody; even if he is also showing a strand of ‘the flesh’ in his leadership credentials during this storm.
His sound and fury at the start has not been matched by the action that should, as a matter of cause and consequences, follow.
Obviously, turkeys do not vote for Christmas and it’s therefore not a surprise that at a time like this, when the inherent short, medium and long term consequences of the issue, bugs the minds of serious Sierra Leoneans, people in government are describing those implications with a dismissive yawn.
The issue has not yet turned seriously nasty but its repercussions for us as a people and a nation will linger for a long time.
And what a load of thrash, for the foreign affairs minister to say that the issue will not affect the image of the country. Will someone tell her to get real? What happened is the tip of the iceberg and while our leaders live the life of jesters, the rest of the world, with poker-like face, snigger behind our backs just as Robert Mugabe exposed recently.
Zainab’s diplomatic passport might ensure that she is not searched; but the rest of us would be tacitly subjected to that indignity from now on.
Miss foreign minister, whose achievement includes getting a $65,000 fund to furnish her offices, must live in a fool’s paradise if she also believes that an ill-equipped Sierra Leone police is, according to her, “about to solve a major international drug trafficking problem that has confused the United States, Britain etc”. (Her counterpart in the US must be eating her heart out in envy.)
Governance is a slippery field and those who shoulder the enormous burden of the collective will should be given support when the occasion demands.
However, I cannot for the life of me endorse the depraved and inexcusable trite of a joke by I.B. Kargbo, that at least Salone now has a plane; even if it is to move agriculture.
And also laughable is Kemoh Sesay’s boast that he personally instructed the police and fire fighters to expend energy on blocking a plane whose crew had made good their escape while he was still dilly-dallying. Wow. What brilliance.
I mean, under the cover of darkness, a plane struts into town without warning and with absolute impunity; ignores your control tower and storms ahead with a landing – no May Day signals – and our honourable minister’s most important contribution was to ask ‘dilapidated’ trucks to block the path of the aircraft. Thank God it was not an invasion.
Despite the spin being put on the episode, it is a story that embarrasses us as a nation; mind-boggling and one that will put a true face to the much orchestrated zero-tolerance towards corruption.
What happens from now on is of utmost importance and I am not talking about the rushed new laws or the arbitrary and needless arrest of anybody who shows signs of affluence around town. This drama has the hallmark of corruption and connivance from on high or negligence of duty from the same quarters and for which heads must roll.
It is inconceivable that a plane will violate a sovereign nation’s airspace with such blatant audacity without some sinister facts behind it.
Sad to say, there is a fear that the ominous deafness following the initial euphoria may be a pointer to the fact that the truth may never be known and scapegoats, who will be sprung from incarceration once the dusts have settled, will bear the brunt.
Whatever the situation, it has become crystal clear that the government needs to step on its breaks in the imaginary war with perceived opposition media and political opponents in a bid to get a clear and true picture of things; especially since some newshounds were hushed up as rabble-rousers when they first rang the alarm bells.
Government should appreciate counter views and opinions, no matter how hogwash, irritating, inconceivably impossible or bordering on the ludicrous, they may appear to be. If there are different opinions, perhaps it is a good idea that they should be heard.
Despite the parlous state of the people and their apparent resignation to widespread corruption, majority still yearn for a society ordered by the enduring ethos of decency and morality.
Now is the moment to walk the talk of change. Heads must roll. Many are watching and not just from home alone.
AIRPORT’S PRESS RELEASE RAISES THE NECESSITY FOR A PROBE.
Could it be that months of taking the people for granted and making a dog’s breakfast of almost everything challenging, has blinded those in power to some of their actions?
Take for example the Press release by the Airport Management on the cocaine plane.
Aside from its uncouth introductory passage, it makes it clear that they were doing us a favour by speaking out 72 hours late. But significantly, the release throws up questions that compel the government to institute an investigation into the handling of the whole episode. Just look at the facts as presented.
Drama began at 02;05 am and it took 15 minutes to report to the head of operations who refused initial clearance; another 23 minutes later before the General Manager and minister are contacted; and 45 minutes to al3rt the security apparatus even though it was clear the plane was going to bulldoze its way.
The plane landed one hour from when the drama began and during which time it made control tower totally irrelevant. Yet nothing concrete was done until two solid hours later at 04:00am when security reinforcement was received.
From the above, it is clear that the airport management and others who have a part to play should be looking for something else to do by now and that includes the minister.
Pure and simple. Because:
· How big is Lungi that it took over an hour to mobilise?
· What is the contingency plan for the airport in case of such a scenario or even an invasion?
· The airport management wants us to believe that it is because staff do not carry arms that seriously constrained them from preventing the escape of the suspects. Yet, its own account indicates valuable time was lost in putting in place simple procedures that would have helped. This is aside other lapses.
· Mr. minister was quoted elsewhere as saying the protection of Lungi was the preserve of the security agencies. That is buck passing because his brief includes taking steps to ensure the safety of that airport; which means getting the security agencies and relevant ministries to do what he thinks is in the best interest of the nation
Are those resignation letters on the table yet? Over to you Mr. [president.
PERVERTING THE COURSE OF JUSTICE
The more things appear to change, the more they remain the same.
Those standing stoically upright in defence of anti-corruption should drop their heads in shame for the historical precedent of government’s intervention in the criminal prosecution of the press secretary to the president.
Those who preach transparency are themselves opaque and for success in the fight against corruption, they must imbibe best practices.
The indecent perversion of the course of justice is therefore a serious cause for concern.
Is the Press Secretary one of those rumoured to be holding the President to ransom for whatever reasons? Little wonder that since assumption of office, the man has been acting like a raging bull in the china shop; carried away by the giddiness of office.
Now that he has unwittingly forced the government to reveal its true colours on corruption and ‘sacred cows’, maybe we can all have peace now and hear a new song.
LAST WORD: LEADERSHIP BY EXAMPLE.
Overseas trips by government members in Ivory Coast have been reduced to the barest minimum. Salaries of ministers have been cut in half and running costs in government departments also slashed, to pay for a 10% cut in fuel prices.
The government described the action, as a response to the people’s cry-from-the-heart, over the global economic crisis.
At least the government picked the mole from its eyes first before asking the people to grin and bear it while they enjoy the good life.
That’s leadership by example. That’s how attitudinal change begins.
Subject: Re: RANDOM MUSING - The 'Coke' and Bull Story: Heads Must Roll
From: Critical Thinker
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Date Posted: 08:04:19 07/25/08 ()
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This is a very good editorial.
Subject: Re: RANDOM MUSING - The 'Coke' and Bull Story: Heads Must Roll
From: Mensa
To: All
Date Posted: 01:41:09 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
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The facts, when thoroughly investigated ......
The report, when truely objective ....
The thoughts, when articulately pondered ....
The concerns, when genuinely expressed .....
The ground is prepared for a wonderful read. This first part of the story is good enough for editorial.
Thanks, brother Gordon. With people like you around, there is much to be proud of our journalistic potentials on the international scale. At least, they make a difference from the "Roto-Rata' that pervades the streets. And the criticisms are not only constructive, they carry with them a supreme portrait, which is, the genuine concern as to where SL is heading. Please keep up the good work
Subject: Kabs, Time To Shine
From: Sam
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Date Posted: 22:50:02 07/24/08 ()
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Kabs, I am sure that as a journalist of integrity, your pen or typing fingers or whatever tools you use must be itching over this coc. issue.
Cocorioko has to do a whole lot more than regurgitate press releases from the govt. As part of the SL media, Cocorioko needs to step up. That my friend is one of your role when you "operate in" a developing country where the govt does not have spelt out checks and balances. The media is/should be the number one checks and balances.
I am still waiting for a newspaper to step up and ask the difficult questions.
When one considers the large scale of the operations, this can't be the first time the aviation minister's brother has been doing this. So how long has he been using his brother's name to violate our nation? And when he was working in his sports role capacity travelling with Sierra Leone athletes who were going abroad, was he using it as an opportunity to send drugs overseas?
Why is the aviation minister still at his job? Didn't his predecessor get a lot of flack when a helicopter crashed? Why is this case so different. We do understand that his position was abused right? It does not matter if he is innocent.
1)This plane, as opposed to the countless others I'm sure, only got caught because something went wrong. 2) I am pretty sure the traffickers would not plan such an operation, but leave out this key part, that is bribing every one they can at Lungi. Has this been looked at?
Supposedly, Scotland Yard has categorically denied having agents in SL. So are they currently working with the govt on this case. If not, why was a minister claiming they were?
The govt only this week was discussing drug laws that are about to be passed. Could they suspend that for a couple months and increase penalties. Unless we have the death penalty for major traffickers, this won't stop. West Africa is used now, only because the traffickers know that we don't have the resources to stop them. So lets provide some deterrents.
There are tons of other questions, but you are the journalist, so please come up with them and ask them.
This is not the time to "wait for facts." We know the event occured and we know the brother of our aviation minister is one of the suspects. The press in SL should be the busiest its been in a long while. Let's not leave it as business as usual.
If the media wants to wait for the facts before doing any reporting, then its not doing its job.
Subject: Re: Kabs, Time To Shine
From: Bra
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Date Posted: 22:57:43 07/24/08 ()
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Sam, you are a breath of fresh air. Remember also that Leone Stars has been camping in Lungi for the past three international matches. The minister's brother who was Leone Stars team manager proposed Lungi as a popular venue.
Was he using this as a pretext to conduct his cocaine activities?
Ahmed Sesay aslo paid for the chartered flight(containg close to 200 supporters) to Equatorial Guinea for Leone stars and salone supporters.Each supporter(out of the more than 200) was only asked to pay $200, and Ahmed Sesay paid for the rest.
Did he use his cocaine money to take care of these bills. Was he conducting his cocaine business while at Lungi and travelling abroad with Leone Stars?
Also GK is very close to Kemoh Sesay and the VP. GK is now on the run. Did the VP and Kemoh know about GK's activities? Bra, this cocaine thing stinks to the core.
Subject: HINGA NORMAN,CONSTITUTIONAL ORDER,THE BLAME GAME.
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 22:44:12 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
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HINGA NORMAN,CONSTITUTIONAL ORDER,AND THE CLIMATE OF BLAME:
I have never been a fan of Ahmad Tejan Kabbah.In the Washington metropolitan area,there is a major inter state connection that triangulates between Washington,Maryland,and Virginia,and I will not hesitate for a moment to push Tejan Kabbah right in front of those fast moving vehicles during the week day rush hour traffic.
That said however,I think he is being scapegotized unfairly for the political demise of chief Samuel Hinga Norman.
There is an old adage that opines:”Those who do not remember history,are bound to repeat the same mistakes.”
Having re-evaluated history with contemporary eyes,it is my considered judgment and candid opinion that the chief deliberately failed to glean from the incidence of the March 21st,1967 constitutional crisis that placed him front and center of the chaos and disorder that descended on the political process by carrying out orders that were clearly illegal and thus precipitated the army intervention in the political dispensation of the country.
Readers will recall that on March 21st,1967,the Governor General swore in Siaka Probyn Stevens as Prime Minister following the March 17 hotly contested Olympic of elections.
An official broadcast was scheduled to be made to the effect but the constitutional instruments that necessitated that ended up at Flagstaff House the official residence of the army chief of staff Brigadier David Lansana where upon,he gave out instructions to then Lt.Samuel Hinga Norman who at that time was the ADC to the Governor General Sir.Henry LightFoot Boston the supreme in chief of the armed forces,for the ceremony to be impeded.
It should have dawn on Lt.Norman that the orders were illegal and unconstitutional for various reasons foremost being that the Governor General’s office was superior to the army chief of staff in the order of precedence.The Governor General is not the one to tahe orders from the army chief but the other way round.Norman should have been educated in that constitutional protocol and thereby flatly refused.He did not do so.Rather he participated in an unconstitutional act willfully,deliberately,and with malice and forethought.
There was a precedent in Nigeria where military leaders flatly refused to obey orders from the supreme commander in chief.Readers who follow international politics will no doubt recall that prior to the January 15 1966 military coup,there was a general election held if my political recollections on Nigeria serves me well,I think that election was held in 1964.Balewa’s government like the Albert Margai administration in 1967 lost the election and it sought to manipulate the out come of the contest.The political atmosphere snowballed into precipitate commitments just like what happened in Sierra Leone in 1967.The Governor General who was the constitutional head of state called the military leaders and suggested that they should take over.The entire joint chiefs i.e.,the chief of defence staff,the army chief of staff,that air chief of staff,and the naval chief of staff all refused citing the constitutional inappropriateness .That was very unprecedented in political history for a head of state to invite the armed forces to take over a civilian administration.
Back to Lt.Norman,he placed very body under arrest which included the Governor General,the newly appointed Prime Minister and other officials who accompined Stevens to the ceremony.
In 1968 when civilian rule was re-established,he was among those who faced treason charges for his role in scuttling the constitutional democratic process.
One would have thought that the lessons from that episode stood him in good stead for any future meddling with the constitution process.Alas it never taught him anything.
Tejan Kabbah took upon himself to disband the army without going through the constitutional process in having Parliament participate in the process.It was done on impulse because he was kicked out of power.If he had the political education or acumen,he should have copied the Kenyan experience during the presidency of Arap Moi.
Most readers who follow world trend will recall that the Kenyan air force rebelled against his administration.He did not carry out a whole scale disbandment of the military.Those who participated in that diabolical acts were cashiered out of the security services.The only legitimate authority to raise and disband any armed forces is parliament.
Kabbah’s disbandment of the constitutional army and replacement with the ‘Kamajors’was illegal,unconstitutional,and unethical and he should have been called to take responsibility for such action.He left the nation vulnerable to attack from people with territorial ambition.He bears indirect responsibility for the violation of our air space and illegal landing of a plane on our soil.
Hinga Norman should have rationalized the fact that the “Kamajors’was a private militia raised outside the constitutional process supported by private finances including Tegloma.In short,their actions should be considered treasonous ,because,they raised a private army against the citizens that was used to fight them and in the process,caused mayhem to both the citizens and the constitutional order.
Since Norman was a willing partner in Tejan Kabbah’s treason against the citizens of Sierra Leone,I see no justification for blaming others for something which he willingly,voluntarily,and gladly accepted to be part and parcel of.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
Subject: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma emerges from his "bunker"!
From: Chief In Exile
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Date Posted: 23:53:31 07/24/08 ()
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Posted by Fan of Curtis on July 24, 2008 at 10:28:28:
In Reply to: Remembering posted by Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas on July 24, 2008 at 10:15:12:
"Now that you have appeared, some people are already quaking in their holes for fear of those precision-guided 500 pound laser bombs. MKK, you dae tremble eh? You masta don cam!"
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Posted by Chiefdom Elders on July 24, 2008 at 10:34:01:
In Reply to: Re: Remembering "Dr Oloh": what would music be like without him? posted by Fan of Curtis on July 24, 2008 at 10:28:28:
Posted by Fan of Curtis on July 24, 2008 at 10:28:28:
In Reply to: Remembering posted by Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas on July 24, 2008 at 10:15:12:
"Now that you have appeared, some people are already quaking in their holes for fear of those precision-guided 500 pound laser bombs. MKK, you dae tremble eh? You masta don cam!"
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You forgot to add "bunker-penetrating bomb, that can smoke terrorists from their holes"!
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Subject: Sierra-Leone: President Ask Minister To Resign
From: My President
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Date Posted: 22:24:02 07/24/08 ()
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Hahahahahahaha, ar get them well. Orwai Ococaine.
Subject: Re: Sierra-Leone: President Ask Minister To Resign
From: al khan
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Date Posted: 22:26:18 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: alhajie@comcast.net
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That is not funny.
Subject: Oh Africa, is there much hope for you? Is there a solution?
From: Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas
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Date Posted: 22:18:44 07/24/08 ()
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Although it has abundant natural resources, Africa remains the world's poorest and most underdeveloped continent, due largely to the effects of: corporate exploitation, tropical diseases, the slave trade, corrupt governments, failed central planning, the international trade regime and geopolitics; as well as widespread human rights violations, the negative effects of colonialism, despotism, illiteracy, superstition, tribal savagery and military conflict (ranging from war and civil war to guerrilla warfare to genocide). According to the United Nations' Human Development Report in 2003, the bottom 25 ranked nations (151st to 175th) were all African nations.
Widespread poverty, illiteracy, malnutrition and inadequate water supply and sanitation, as well as poor health, affect a large majority of the people who reside in the African continent, where 36.2% of the population is living on under $1 per day. Africa is by far the world's poorest inhabited continent, and on average, in 2003 it was poorer than it was in 1973.
Some areas, notably Botswana and South Africa, have experienced economic success. The latter has a wealth of natural resources, being the world's leading producer of both gold and diamonds, and having a well-established legal system. South Africa also has access to financial capital, numerous markets, skilled labor, and first world infrastructure in much of the country and has one of the major stock exchanges of the continent, the Johannesburg Stock Exchange...
Subject: I have no issues with Bhai Dahwa Please stop using my name
From: Sheku Kallon
To: All
Date Posted: 22:14:58 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: shekukal@yahoo.com
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Bhai Dawah and I have had a cordial relationship over the years through my relationship with Fredy Shabaka Cole and the Miniter of Culture at the time Hindolo Trye. I was responsible for getting gigs for the National dance troupe and asked Bhai Dahwa to video tape the entire performances which we intend to release during the next Independence celebrations throggh my record label Sierra Gold. I am not at war with Bhai Dahwa. I considered him a professional colleague in our quest to promote Sierra Leonean artists. The New People have never wrote any story about Bhai Dahwa. It is his brother Kemoh Sesay who is under our watch for his involvement in the Cocaine saga. It is the brothers of Bhai Dahwa who are involved in drugs. Why is Bhai Dahwa taking the mountle to fight for his brothers. Please do not try to start any conflict between Bhai Dahwa and myself. I have no issues with Bhai. Please stop using my names in your headlines just so you will get thousands of hits. I chose to respond via this forum to set the record straight. Kabs, please have some integrity and stop this nonsense. Yu too big for dat. I will not respond to the threads and this is the last time you will get me to help you generate hits on your forum. I am only responding because I value my relationship with Bhai Dahwa. Bhai do not fall for these cheap APC tactics. You are a good brother. Don't go down the path of bad behavior. You are different from your brothers Mohamed and Kemoh. Let them speak for themselves. Let us focus on promoting the Unity Tour with Jimmy headlining. Check out the link for information on the tour.
Subject: Re: I have no issues with Bhai Dahwa Please stop using my na
From: Forum Police
To: All
Date Posted: 23:59:40 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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"Let us focus on promoting the Unity Tour with Jimmy headlining. Check out the link for information on the tour".
You have been fined for advertising on the forum without the permission of Kabs. I will request the Forum Accountant to send a bill of one thousand dollars to your office. Failing to settle this bill will lead to court action.Lonta.
Subject: Re: I have no issues with Bhai Dahwa Please stop using my name
From: Kabs Kanu
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Date Posted: 23:55:59 07/24/08 ()
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Sheku Kallon, I don't understand you. You remind me of a friend who visited me in Liberia. We said we will prepare a special soup for him any time we wanted to enjoy our usual dry monkey meat and delicious palm butter soup. He had said he did not eat monkey. Man, that primate is one of the most delicious edible animals and in palm butter soup , there is nothing more enjoyable.And he was spending the whole rainy season vacation with us.
However, my friend told my wife and I not to bother. He said it was only the meat he did not eat. He said he loved the monkey palm butter soup without the meat. He said he enjoyed eating the soup in which monkey had been cooked but he did not love eating the meat itself. My wife and I always being very discrete and loving found this funny but we spared him any comments from us. It was my sassy, young "Liberian" kid (You know that kids in Liberia are like the ones in America. They are very outspoken )who made fun about one day to our visitor.
He saw the man enjoying the monkey soup without the meat, enjoying it so much until he was licking his fingers and his hand. The boy looked at him for long and said : "Mr ....., you really enjoyed the monkey soup ". The guy replied : Well, I won't call it monkey soup because it did not have the meat. You know I don't eat monkey ".But the sassy boy retorted : "You are so funny, Mr....., how can you say you don't eat monkey but you love eating the soup ? Is it not the same ? ".
It is the same with you, Sheku. How can you say yu love Bai Dawa and he is your friend but you are degrading and defaming his family before the whole world , acting as judge and jury in this cocaine case, without waiting for the law to do its job ? Can you be friends with somebody whose family you are busy tearing apart ? Is the man different from his family ?
I am not saying that if his family does wrong, you as a journalist cannot condemn the brothers. You have all the right to do so, but defintely not before they are PROVEN GUILTY by a competent court of law. You have to wait until it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Bai Dawa's brothers are really involved in the cocaine trade. Your unprofessional conclusions and attacks on the family in your newspaper (Without waiting for the law to take its course )are tantamount to enemy action and I believe that is what is presently bothering Bai Dawa Sesay.
Your friend indeed ?
WITH FRIENDS LIKE YOU, WHO NEEDS ENEMIES ?
Subject: Re: I have no issues with Bhai Dahwa Please stop using my name
From: zakmal
To: All
Date Posted: 10:23:13 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
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Rev, in my perusing of the new people online recently concerning the cocaine saga the only two people mentioned in their articles are Kemoh and Ahmed. The Bhai controversy is new to me.However,you re asking journalists to wait till these alledged suspects are found guilty before any thing can be said about them. If that's how journalism works then all journalists should pack their bags and proceed to a court house and await a verdict before any story can be published.I don't see any unprofessional behaviour on the part of the new people by asking on whose orders did the plane landed in lungi. Why did a vehicle registered to one Gibrila Kamara was used as a get away vehicle. A lot of us are looking up to you to ask the tough questions of this government. Being a partisan is ok however don't forget that you made your mark in sierra leone by being tough on this same APC. Please put on your flak jacket and go to work for us. You may lose friends in high places but you will always have us. I've never met you but I have followed your work since the days of tablet in the company of Pious and others. As youngsters at the time we admire what you guys were doing to the government by trying to keep them honest. You can do the same now Rev.
Stay blessed and keep up the good work by providing this wonderful platform for all.
Subject: Re: I have no issues with Bhai Dahwa Please stop using my name
From: True
To: All
Date Posted: 13:14:04 07/25/08 ()
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This Kabs guy is very intelligent but he is not making use of his talents any more.I also remember his Tablet days with Pios, Frank Kposowa and Hindolo Trye.They made President Shaki to wake up on the wrong side of the bed every morning.They stripped the APC government naked every day. I wonder why he has decided to be part of a system he once fought. Kabs has the ability to bring this government down with the stroke of his pen. Why Kabs, why the change ?Why the disappointment ?
Subject: Kabs please do not gag the press because of APC Conaine
From: Jacob Kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 05:40:34 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: jacob.kanu@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
"I am not saying that if his family does wrong, you as a journalist cannot condemn the brothers. You have all the right to do so, but defintely not before they are PROVEN GUILTY by a competent court of law"
I am sure even you know that you are not saying the truth here. Just because you are part of the APC propaganda machinery and would only selectively & comsistently publish misinformation that covers up for this national Cocaine disgrace our poor ol' country has been subjected to by the APC:
Misinformation like the $10 million Reward Money
Falsely and conciously overplaying the role of the FBI et al and not bothering to check, thus misleading 1000s of Sierra Leones
Quickly deleting any posts that links the CEO of the Cocaine Trafficking to Salone, Gibril to VP Sumana etc
My friend I sure you are fully aware professional journalists the world over do not wait for a guilty verdict before the report on criminal enterprises on this scale. Have you not seen cocaine suspects on TV? Have you not heard pundits doing running commentary on cases? Oh... may be you were in Lib during the OJ Trial and did not have access to Satellite TV.
Just incase you miss my point, even a sitting President of the USA is not spared in private scandals (like the Monika Lewinsky saga), not to mention public ones like the Nixon-gate.
Christian Brother, you can however choose to selectively publish stories that tend to cover up for your beloved Cocaine APC... you can fool some people some of the times but you cannot fool everyone all the time.
Man of God sir, we are watching and I am sure you know the Good Lord above is watching as well. Do what you have to do, and let other people be as well. Stop behaving like your inept Boss EBK condeming other national election processes whilst winking to his Task Force Boys to attack Electoral Officers; opponents in Kono,Kambia et al; destruction of election materials; closing opposition radio; dramatic increase in unopposed candidates etc
As Christians, we must always strive to be honest. One of the worst sins is that of deceit - believing one is righteous but others are not - because they have a different faith. What arrant nonsense.
Do unto others my friend..
Have a very nice day my brother.
Subject: Re: Kabs please do not gag the press because of APC Conaine
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 07:13:55 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
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There you go again with your lack of comprehension. Becareful bro, when supporting or discreditting other people's views, make sure you understand them thoroughly before jumping into conclusions. Your style of writing is premature and unethical I thought I've injected this into your brains before, I think your receptors needs upgrading.
Cousin, I will not sit by and watch you putting your credibility down the drains without injecting some sense into you, If I do that, I'm not not a good brother. Seriously bro, you've got to study someone's assertion on certain subjects before making your mind whether to join in defence or not your hasty jumping into attack is wrong.
Your association with the SLPP should not cause the demise of your moral integrity, you know fully well that Sheku Kallon of the New People is not prepared to use his literal prowess to speak for Sierra Leone but for himself and his greedy SLPP, reason for his hateful attacks on government. The likes of Sheku Kallon are just the reason many people will lobby against the abolition of the libel laws of our country. If these laws are abolished, our democracy will desintegrate overnight due to the behaviour of people like Sheku Kallon.
Subject: Re: Kabs please do not gag the press because of APC Conaine
From: Taveh Gutu
To: All
Date Posted: 10:18:27 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Way to go Eddie boy! It is sometimes nice to teach this poorly educated scoundrel a lesson in English or ethics. Nice of you.
Subject: Re: Kabs please do not gag the press because of APC Conaine
From: Jacob Kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 09:10:57 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: jacob.kanu@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
Cheap Eddy ar geh for gee yu bench.
As usual, you have again put your empty head in sand whilst exposing your exterior for bystanders to painfully inspect.
What part of my comments do you disagree with? Or are you just being your silly kongosa self again. You really are a professional butt sniffer!
Subject: Re: Kabs please do not gag the press because of APC Conaine
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 10:39:05 07/26/08 ()
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It is clear that you thrieve on obscenity. I don't deserve your disrespectful comments. Some of you guys don't behave in accordance with your age grade, look how low you've gone when all I gave is an advice.
I will try my best to avoid your conversation before you direct further abuse towards me. Because I think your initial reaction to others opinions can be dangerous and that greatly influence your thinking.
Subject: Re: Kabs please do not gag the press because of APC Conaine
From: Charles F Margai
To: All
Date Posted: 17:01:52 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: charles.margai@yahoo.com
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You dae give but you nor dae take eeh? Relax man. Don't be too tense,
Subject: International correspondent
From: Sorie Thullah
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Date Posted: 21:24:24 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: Sthullah@yahoo.com
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Kabs, is Solo Vandy still the International correspondent for cocorioko?
Subject: SLFA Elections: Wonders will never end
From: Sad Footballer
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Date Posted: 21:20:56 07/24/08 ()
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SLFA Elections: Wonders will never end
- Friday 25 July 2008.
Commentary
By Lans Joe Sesay Junior, Freetown.
Despite the serious embarrassment to football stakeholders, Nahim Khadi, a man against whom a motion to be investigated was passed for his handling of SLFA resources, was again recently elected with a vote of 29 as against his arch-rival Dr. Foday Bangsu Bangura’s 20. Khadi was the incumbent SLFA president.
Dr. Foday "Bangso" Bangura graciously conceded defeat and promised to work with the incumbent towards improving football in the country.
But let it be asked, who in God’s name among the delegates voted for Nahim Khadi? Have they done football in this nation justice, or were they just scared that if Khadi had lost, their cabal would have come under investigation?
Or was their action actually motivated by the alleged bribe of two million leones each one of them pocketed?
This development leaves football in this country in the doldrums again.
Football lovers in Sierra Leone have no personal malice against Khadi, but the lack of accountability and transparency with which the affairs of the football association was run during his first term of office clearly indicts him as incapable of running a modern corporate institution.
Khadi even failed to furnish Congress with the 2007 audited report; that was why the holding of Congress had to be postponed in the first place.
The records are there: For example in the Leone Stars match with Leyton Orient in UK, Nahim Khadi pocketed $30,000. Evidence of this was presented to Congress but the stakeholders went ahead to re-elect him. What a shame for President Ernest Bai Koroma’s call for attitudinal change.
We the lovers of football in Sierra Leone share Dr. Bangso Bangura’s disappointment that once again he has not been allowed to put his dream of decentralizing football in Sierra Leone such that every region and district would fully participate in helping the sport to grow in this country.
Politicization of the whole deliberations of Congress 2008 with one candidate branded APC and the other SLPP made the whole exercise a charade, giving Alhaji Alim Unisa Sesay aka Awoko ,the opportunity to sway the stakeholders by appealing that birds of a feather must flock together.
In any case, now that the election is over, we would like to see SLFA publish its audited accounts statement for public scrutiny.
It must be stated here and now, that although Nahim Khadi was given another chance, the audited financial report which King Walker and Associates prepared for the Congress seriously indicted him and his executive for gross financial impropriety.
The audited report stated that “there is no Internal Control Mechanism in existence, hence serious accounting lapses had occurred, which include the absence of third-party supporting documents and checks and balances that could have made for transparency and accountability. This has been a perennial problem with the Association.”
Also, statutory deductions, for example, PAYE/NASSIT in respect of employees have not been paid to the relevant institutions during the period under review. If really the 49 delegates’ who went to decide the future of football in this country all had their heads on their shoulders, they should have seen that for four years in Sierra Leone, notwithstanding the colossal sums FIFA, government and private sector contributors have put into football, the sport is gradually dying as football lovers now prefer to watch European soccer than patronize domestic club matches.
It is indeed a sad time for soccer in this nation.
“The same despicable attitude you showed four years ago during the Makeni Congress you have again shown. You guys all really need a protracted session of courses in positive Attitude Change (PAC) from no less a person than President Ernest Bai Koroma.,” Dr. Bangsu Bangura angrily told the delegates.
Let’s face it, SLFA is not going to get any better with the sort of selfish stakeholders we have in control. That’s my honest opinion.
Editor’s note: Lans Joe Sesay Junior (photo)recently joined the PV Freetown squad. He is the son of the late Lans Joe Sesay, one of Sierra Leone’s finest journalists. Welcome onboard, brother.
Subject: Re: SLFA Elections: Wonders will never end
From: fatballer
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Date Posted: 02:48:12 07/25/08 ()
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Lets face it, he also won fair and square. Nothing can be easily cleaned in Salone. this is a gradual attempt. Despite his lack of administrative experience, he has the vision and goodwill. Believe it or not, this man spends his own money on the team when there are no funds, Sierra leone now has a first, 2nd, 3rd divisions, womens football etc., all of this under his leadership. Please give him a break. this time around he has brought on a professional administrator. We hope to see better things this time around.
We cannot continue our KorKor phenmomenon of being sore loosers. You are the ones killing football by creating such a negative image and making the job almost impossible to do no matter how well that person means. Bangso did the right thing to stoop down kowing he will be beaten in second rounds again, but also making sure that the rift stops now.
Please stop the attacks now, he has been re-elected, not even the government can overturn that easily without consequences as fair and fair as the election was held. Also not forget that he has been investigated by Anti-corruption, and your certain allegations lack merit, hence his clearing to re-run.
The best you can do now, is to bring all your wonderful ideas about improving Sierra Leone football, and bring it back to its glory days. We will join you when you are ready. I am not a big Fan of Nahim either, but let bygones be bygones. LONTA!!!
Subject: Dedication to my SLPP friends.
From: Uman Lappa
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Date Posted: 20:55:08 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: moijuekaisamba@gmail.com
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Hey SLPP, I hope you chill with this rock classic as the president works to solve the cocaine case.
Subject: Kabs-Kanu is now Chief Executive Officer
From: ADMIRER
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Date Posted: 20:34:14 07/24/08 ()
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Congratulations CEO Kabs-Kanu. COCORIOKO is becoming a must read in the world. Your inclusiveness and tolerance of those with contrary views has made you an outstanding and excellent Editor. You are becoming a phenomenon in bringing Sierra Leone to the world, and taking the world to Sierra Leone. I am certain thousands of readers, contributors and well wishers join me in congratulating you.
P/S:
Your Detractors can go jump off the Bumbuna falls. That’s a better way of using their energy than trying to derail you. The more they hate, the more God blesses and the more we love. Keep the good works in providing balanced reporting on the homeland. WE LOVE YOU KABS-KANU!!!
Subject: Re: Kabs-Kanu is now Chief Executive Officer
From: Dave
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Date Posted: 15:35:20 07/25/08 ()
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Keep the good works in providing balanced reporting on the homeland?!?
Are you for real? I'll let you see some of the current NEWS that is being reported on....
- The desperate power-hungry SLPP will not rest
- Finance minister commissions ultra-modern bank in Freetown
- European Union to electrify Sierra Leone's provincial towns
- Bhai Sesay and The NEW PEOPLE continue bickering
- No sacred cows in treatment of Cocaine suspects , President Ernest Koroma vows
- Ernest Koroma's APC Government upholding rule of law and international morality
- Western Area local Elections final result : APC 67, SLPP 1 and Independent 1
- APC's Herbert Williams records landslide victory to win Mayorship of Freetown
--President Koroma's consistency : Flashback to Sunday May 21, 2006 : NO SACRED COWS IF ELECTED
Do you see a pattern here? Honestly?
Subject: Re: Kabs-Kanu is now Chief Executive Officer
From: Fanbulleh
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Date Posted: 15:06:39 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: Fbulleh@yahoo.com
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What about Solomon Vandi? Is he still the international correspondent?
Subject: Re: Kabs-Kanu is now Chief Executive Officer
From: Fanbulleh
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Date Posted: 15:05:48 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: Fbulleh@yahoo.com
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What about Solomon Vandi? Is he still the international correspondent?
Subject: PPRC Calls for Police Action against Kabala Heads in Sierra
From: Koinadugu Thug
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Date Posted: 19:35:49 07/24/08 ()
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PPRC Calls for Police Action against Kabala Heads in Sierra Leone
By Bintu A Sesay
Jul 24, 2008, 18:58
The Political Parties Registration Commission (PPRC) has in a radio program called on the Sierra Leone Police to take legal actions against the chiefs and senior authorities in the Kumolah village, Negah Chiefdom in Kabala. This call came as a result of a recently concluded investigation by the PPRC into a complaint brought to the commission by one Musa. B. Jalloh, a Sierra Leone People’s Party (SLPP) candidate for ward 153 in the just concluded local council elections.
The complaint received is that he was banished by the chiefs and people of the village ahead of the July 5 polls. PPRC’s Regional Officer North, Mr. Kashor Cole revealed that a team from PPRC went to Kumolah village together with Mr. Musa Jalloh whom they met waiting in a near by village called Musa Bendugu where he sought refuge with his family. Upon arrival, the team learnt from investigations that the chiefs had banished Mr. Jalloh for contesting a daughter of the ruling house, which according to the authorities is an insult to the chieftain. The chiefs also alleged that Mr. Jalloh had interfered with their paramount chieftaincy election slated for September of this year; a punishment for which is he must leave the village until the Paramount Chieftaincy election was held.
Mr. Jalloh said the team told the people and Chiefs of Kumolah Village that they have no right to do so and have informed the police to take serious actions against them, being that the man is a Sierra Leonean and has the fundamental right to contest any election in the village under any political party.
Subject: Paramount Chief In Big Trouble
From: Premier News
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Date Posted: 19:24:33 07/24/08 ()
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Paramount Chief In Big Trouble
Premier News
By Alusine Sesay
(Thursday 24, July 2008)
A decision by the Provincial Secretary North, Abdul Robert Dumbuya, to reinstate Paramount Chief Sheku Magba Koroma 111 of Diang Chiefdom, Koinadugu District, has created tension in the Chiefdom, leaving two people seriously injured.
The Paramount chief was suspended by the SLPP Government in 2004 for alleged misuse of chiefdom revenue and misrule of his subjects pending investigations.
Councilor John F. D. Koroma of Ward 147 in Diang Chiefdom alleged that he was seriously beaten by thugs supporting the Paramount Chief, Sheku Magba Koroma 111, at Kalibuya on May 30, and that he was hospitalized at the Kabala Government hospital for a month.
He alleged that he was beaten with sticks and was put inside a car-boot after his motor bike was completely destroyed.
He said the matter is currently at the Kabala Police Station for investigation.
One of the youth leaders in Diang Chiefdom, Kellie Koroma, who is presently admitted at the Kabala Government hospital, also alleged that on July 19, 2008 he was beaten by thugs supporting the Chief because he disapproved his reinstatement.
“I was severely beaten and left bleeding in the ears and the noise,” he disclosed, adding, that he had made a statement to the Kabala Police Station.
A letter from the Provincial Secretary’ Office, Northern Province dated 30th July 2008 signed by the Provincial Secretary, Abdul Robert Dumbuya, and addressed to The Central Chiefdom Finance Clerk, Kabala, states that “the Paramount Chief, Sheku Magba Koroma 111, of Diang Chiefdom, Koinadugu District, was suspended for the alleged crimes that were to be investigated by a commission of inquiry which inadvertently found no fault in the conduct and leadership of the Paramount Chief.
That prior to the investigation and to ensure equity, Justice and fair play, Mr. Bockarie Dabo was appointed Regent Chief to administer Diang Chiefdom while the investigation was ongoing.
The letter stated, that on the assumption of the new APC Government, President Dr Ernest Bai Koroma, as President of the Republic of Sierra Leone through the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Local Government and Rural Development instructed and ordered the reinstatement of the Paramount Chief Sheku Magba Koroma 111 by the Resident Minister/Provincial Secretary North.
This was due to the lack of evidence against the Paramount Chief.
The Elders of Diang Chiefdom which comprises 26 towns and Section chiefs say they would not accept Government’s decision to reinstate Chief Sheku Koroma 111 as Paramount Chief.
“We believe the authorities have ignored the people’s problem and prefer one chief to everybody’s life” they said.
They also stated that they will resist any imposition or provocation and are ready to die if Chief Magba Koroma is reinstated by force.
They also demanded that the judicial inquiry be instituted to conclude whether Chief Magba Koroma 111 is guilty or innocent of the allegations.
The Elders mentioned that they informed the President and the Vice President about their decision through a delegation that came to Freetown.
The Provincial Secretary North, Abdul Robert Dumbuya, told Premier News in a telephone interview that the decision to reinstate Chief Magba Koroma 111 as Paramount Chief of Diang Chiefdom, Koinadugu District, is a decision of Government and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Local Government and Rural Development, and that the decision to reinstate him was arrived at after investigations.
The Elders of Diang Chiefdom explained that they are not aware of Government’s Commission of Inquiry and that they were not even consulted.
They called for an independent investigation into the matter between the elders and the people of Diang and the Chief Sheku Magba Koroma 111.
They also called for urgent government intervention into the issue to avert any danger and bring peace
Subject: Re: Paramount Chief In Big Trouble
From: SORIE
To: All
Date Posted: 22:10:39 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: soriejawara@verizon.com
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It is no trouble for young Magba 111, the legitimate democratically elected paramount chief. Let more lies be manufctured. Hell to the so called elders and corrupt councilor. John Koroma is a thief ,crook and troubleman but Magba 111 will prevail. Where was John Koroma when elections were conducted. S.L.P.P. DID NOT INVESTIGATE THE ALLEGATIONS BECAUSE GOLD WAS constantly dished TO CORRUPT MINISTERS AND PROVINCIAL SECRETARIES. Why don't they come out with facts .Magba SUPPORTED A.P.C. during S.L.P.P. and he never compromised with S.B. Marah. Hell to corruption and corrupt Diang crude politicians. Shameless people..KOINADUGU WILL BE PURGED OUT OF POLITICAL CORRUPTION.
Subject: Another Plane Landed Three Months Ago
From: Owai OCocaine
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Date Posted: 19:21:30 07/24/08 ()
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Stantard Times
By Phillip Neville
What is significant at this time is why should a plane loaded with cocaine substance descended on the soil of this country. The answer probably may be a simple nod of the head if as a nation we take our minds back. About three months back, there was the news about a mystery plane, which also landed at the Lungi International Airport. The Minister of Transport and Aviation was heard saying that the plane was not going to leave the tarmac until proper and convincing explanation was giving as to who owns the plane and what was his mission to this part of the globe.
How the plane left the country and returned home after completing the assignment is still not known and only our Minister of Transport and Aviation can explain. Perhaps there is a connection between the last plane and the one already apprehended by the government of President Ernest Bai Koroma. What this writer wants to get the reading public to assist with is the “doubt” as to whether or not this is the first time that mysterious flights have been taking turns at the Lungi Airport.
Subject: Re: Another Plane Landed Three Months Ago
From: Neutralist
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Date Posted: 21:06:20 07/24/08 ()
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The more we see, the worse it looks. No one in his right mind is going to try such a venture if it not something they have been doing little by little in the past, and have gotten comfortable with because they got away. It appears that cocaine smuggling activities has been going on long before the current Government assumed office.
The good news is, the new APC is ready to make a positive impact in Sierra Leone. Sam is on target with the call for the resignation or firing of Kemoh Sesay. Someone has to take the fall in Koroma’s Cabinet. It will begin to look like Koroma is protecting his close allies whilst exposing the small players. Let us hope it stops at Kemoh Sesay. Truly, there is no way he can say he has no knowledge of such activities. The questions for me are, who else is involve? And does Koroma have enough ‘political capital’ to act upon his promise? With Kemoh Sesay still in office, the answer is no for right now.
Subject: President Koroma , congrats. ..Justice in Koinadugu,bravo..
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 19:04:25 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: soriejawara@verizon.com
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President Koroma has made a big move in Koinadugu and I hope he will not make any reverse decision to satisfy the crook political elements in Diang Chiefdom. Some of the so called elders are crooks, thieves and causers of political unrests in Koinadugu. Young paramount chief MAGBA 111 is a young man with good manners and maintained respect for elders living in Sierra Leone and abroad, hence he was honorably elected paramount chief by majority tribal heads. The key problem to be noted , the councilor is interested in the gold producing region ,therefore MAGBA is one barrier for him to overcome . If he is one honest councilor in the area let him account for collected revenues for three years, show that Magba castigated one elder and placed him in a 40' container. This is one major victory for you in Koinadugu, the past administration failed to solve this problem honorably. Sierra Leone will be working toward political stability if disputes and political corruptions are eradicated starting point with chiefdoms. A strong recommendation for chiefdom development progrms is proper supervision of operations .Funds provided and revenue income for use of chiefdom properties should be used for development in the chiefdoms. Bravo ..give justice to paramount chief Magba 111.
Subject: Re: President Koroma , congrats. ..Justice in Koinadugu,bravo..
From: Justice My Foot
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Date Posted: 19:23:49 07/24/08 ()
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Paramount Chief In Big Trouble
Premier News
By Alusine Sesay
(Thursday 24, July 2008)
A decision by the Provincial Secretary North, Abdul Robert Dumbuya, to reinstate Paramount Chief Sheku Magba Koroma 111 of Diang Chiefdom, Koinadugu District, has created tension in the Chiefdom, leaving two people seriously injured.
The Paramount chief was suspended by the SLPP Government in 2004 for alleged misuse of chiefdom revenue and misrule of his subjects pending investigations.
Councilor John F. D. Koroma of Ward 147 in Diang Chiefdom alleged that he was seriously beaten by thugs supporting the Paramount Chief, Sheku Magba Koroma 111, at Kalibuya on May 30, and that he was hospitalized at the Kabala Government hospital for a month.
He alleged that he was beaten with sticks and was put inside a car-boot after his motor bike was completely destroyed.
He said the matter is currently at the Kabala Police Station for investigation.
One of the youth leaders in Diang Chiefdom, Kellie Koroma, who is presently admitted at the Kabala Government hospital, also alleged that on July 19, 2008 he was beaten by thugs supporting the Chief because he disapproved his reinstatement.
“I was severely beaten and left bleeding in the ears and the noise,” he disclosed, adding, that he had made a statement to the Kabala Police Station.
A letter from the Provincial Secretary’ Office, Northern Province dated 30th July 2008 signed by the Provincial Secretary, Abdul Robert Dumbuya, and addressed to The Central Chiefdom Finance Clerk, Kabala, states that “the Paramount Chief, Sheku Magba Koroma 111, of Diang Chiefdom, Koinadugu District, was suspended for the alleged crimes that were to be investigated by a commission of inquiry which inadvertently found no fault in the conduct and leadership of the Paramount Chief.
That prior to the investigation and to ensure equity, Justice and fair play, Mr. Bockarie Dabo was appointed Regent Chief to administer Diang Chiefdom while the investigation was ongoing.
The letter stated, that on the assumption of the new APC Government, President Dr Ernest Bai Koroma, as President of the Republic of Sierra Leone through the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Local Government and Rural Development instructed and ordered the reinstatement of the Paramount Chief Sheku Magba Koroma 111 by the Resident Minister/Provincial Secretary North.
This was due to the lack of evidence against the Paramount Chief.
The Elders of Diang Chiefdom which comprises 26 towns and Section chiefs say they would not accept Government’s decision to reinstate Chief Sheku Koroma 111 as Paramount Chief.
“We believe the authorities have ignored the people’s problem and prefer one chief to everybody’s life” they said.
They also stated that they will resist any imposition or provocation and are ready to die if Chief Magba Koroma is reinstated by force.
They also demanded that the judicial inquiry be instituted to conclude whether Chief Magba Koroma 111 is guilty or innocent of the allegations.
The Elders mentioned that they informed the President and the Vice President about their decision through a delegation that came to Freetown.
The Provincial Secretary North, Abdul Robert Dumbuya, told Premier News in a telephone interview that the decision to reinstate Chief Magba Koroma 111 as Paramount Chief of Diang Chiefdom, Koinadugu District, is a decision of Government and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Local Government and Rural Development, and that the decision to reinstate him was arrived at after investigations.
The Elders of Diang Chiefdom explained that they are not aware of Government’s Commission of Inquiry and that they were not even consulted.
They called for an independent investigation into the matter between the elders and the people of Diang and the Chief Sheku Magba Koroma 111.
They also called for urgent government intervention into the issue to avert any danger and bring peace
Subject: Re: President Koroma , congrats. ..Justice in Koinadugu,bravo..
From: SORIE Jawaras
To: All
Date Posted: 21:40:09 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: sotie_jawara@yahoo.com
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JUSTICE will prevail and MAGBA 111 will be restored.HELL TO THE RIOTERS. KOINADUGUANS WILL NOT ALLOW CORRUPTION.
Subject: For Cocorioko News Paper
From: political
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Date Posted: 17:25:18 07/24/08 ()
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Kabs Kanu, the ten (10) million dolars bounty for Gibril Koroma you put on your article is wrong. So please correct that for the readers to get accurate info. The amount is ten million leones (Le 10, 000,000), not $10,000,000. The cocain just worht a little more than $25, 000,000 and if Sierra Leone government is spending $10,000,000 to capture one suspect, how many more do we have to spend to capture the others? Besides, the entire police department budget is less than $10,000,000, so were do the ten million dollars comes from if the report is accurate?
Subject: Re: For Cocorioko News Paper
From: Cocorioko
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Date Posted: 17:57:56 07/24/08 ()
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Every newspaper, including the opposition NEW PEOPLE , had $10 MILLION instead of 10 MILLION LEONES. We will make the correction and hope the authorities in Sierra Leone make sure that their facts are right before they announce them.
Subject: Re: For Cocorioko News Paper
From: Prove It
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Date Posted: 18:36:52 07/24/08 ()
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I nver saw any headline like that in the New People, Awoko, Awareness Times, Peep, Premier News. You were the only one who published the 10 million dollar crap.
Subject: Re: For Cocorioko News Paper
From: Cocorioko
To: All
Date Posted: 19:37:30 07/24/08 ()
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We don't owe you a duty to prove anything that we write. What we are doing for you to provide quality news for you, for which you do not pay a cent, is enough. Our reporter sent us exactly what he heard. If the information has turned out to be incorrect, its not our business. We don't blame them, though , because even in the great U.S, during the 9/11 crisis, Mayor Guliani and police chiefs gave conflicting information to the press.
Subject: Re: For Cocorioko News Paper
From: Bible Totter
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Date Posted: 19:39:13 07/24/08 ()
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Prove the damn thing, liar. You said other newspapers printed the same thing, why can't you prove it. Lielondo.
Subject: S.L...people vs Presidents...Kabbah&Momoh..what ?
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:17:28 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: soriejawara@verizon.com
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Here is one important issue many people don't want to talk about , but they go about talking about justice, fairness and credibilty in a system. Former president Tejan Kabbah stated that he got information about the coup (that kicked him out) before it happened , but never took it seriously because he was doing everything for the comfort of the army. Former president Joseph Momoh stated the same, he added that Le.10m logistic support was provided monthly for the soldiers in the battle field and their families were helped. The excuses were valid to defend themselves , but what issues constitute treasonable conducts? Did the leaders do any wrong within the scope of treason? Should they not be charged for indirectly participating in treasonable acts?
Subject: Re: S.L...people vs Presidents...Kabbah&Momoh..what ?
From: Adu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 04:56:13 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: adu@hotmail.com
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The law on misimprisement of treason is very clear. It stats that where a person knew about a planned coup but the he/she failed to report it, them he/she can be charge for misprisonment of treason. Ahamed Tejan admitted he had known about the planned coup but did nothing and only revealed his knowlege of the coup after it had taken place. If he was ever trid for treason, his words will be a powerful evidence to secure conviction.
If Tejan kabba was from an opposing party when he made this admission, he would have been done for treason but it was his own party. What this shows was that Tejan Kabba was either very incompetent or a conspirator against his own party. In any case there is a case to answer for misimprisonment of treason.
Subject: Re: S.L...people vs Presidents...Kabbah&Momoh..what ?
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 06:30:14 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: soriejawara@verizon.com
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Adu, many Sierra Leoneans never saw it that way, instead people were seized as collaborators and kept in prison. Where is justice in Sierra Leone? Thank you.
Subject: Spencer's Agony
From: Hashim Daboh
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Date Posted: 16:27:19 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: Gboyama@yahoo.co.uk
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Ha ha ha !!! ,oh my foot ,you mean all the years Julius Spencer was in the kabbah caboodle he never realised that his government was nothing more than mere graduates of the sa.lone school of heartless looting and mass contract-gate. This is mimicry - you mean this academic jumbo couldn't come to terms with the travesty of the leadership he served. The funny thing in the learned Dr's publicity endeavour is that even lahai ,monina,yemes ,momoh who has never ventured beyond our national borders knows that in Africa we're comparatively the least in everything. Ngor Julius knew all along of the situation he described in his interesting piece ,but failed to challenge his colleagues or, may i say he refused to lead any public outcry of the stagnating situation,a patriotic endeavour expected of his kind. Well the man has probably forgotten his infamous phrase 'I'll not burn my bridges'. The fear of burning the so called bridges makes our government reps thrive in pomp and pageantry with our national purse through bogus and super inflated contracts and contract costs with impunity because those who should be enlightment to the masses are all afraid not to burn bridges.
In both Guinea and The Gambia ,the leaderships have vision for their country ,pride and sincere love . So even though there is public corruption in those two ,yet not to the nihilistic degree our leaders can go. In Conakry ,to rejuvenate Conakry ,Conteh took the bold step to not only clear the city of squatters ,but bulldozed lot of homes to realign the streets and other public structures . Where was Spencer when Freetown was abandoned by his government just because the municipality was governed by the opposition. Spencer said nothing .
In the UK where he's holidaying, even members of ruling party do make public criticism of their party leadership without fear. But correct me if am wrong ,Spence is yet to be on record during and after his cabinet days blasting the SLLP for poor stewardship .
It's only in Sierra Leone where the universities and its leaders makes no other meaningful contribution to the public debates . I'm still waiting to read from our leading economist from the colleges and universities to give us an academic analysis of the Kabbah leadership ,his accomplishment ,failures and setbacks. I urge the learned Dr. to inspire his colleagues to start daily commentary on national issues through our News papers ,the net ,journals ( that can reach the public) and any other medium necessary. For decency sake ,why has Spencer not asked for Kemoh Sesay's resignation over the drug saga. But again even Ernest should have shown the door to his minister on the simple grounds of conflict of interest- but that nar sa lone where maintaing bridges ( even at the detriment of national interest)is the watch word.
Sierra Leone is the only Mano River basin state without accessible international highways . Even war torn Liberia do maintain the IBB highway to the Mano river bridge ,same as Guinea/Salone connection. In a country where corrupt ministers and drug bandits are hailed as 'successful' ,fear of bridge burning is sacrosant. So Dr. speak up when u return to freetown ,and at least have the decency to tell us why you left Tejan's cabinet and, much more, an academic analysis of the SLLP led politics. Mind you both Jammeh and ailing never entered a university . So tell us something more honourable sir ! nough respect spence .
kehtamia
Subject: Re: Spencer's Agony
From: Gbakanda Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:43:23 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ti400720a080-8207.bb.online.no at 83.108.228.31
Message:
Spencer must not be ashamed .He should tell us about his Future Shock /RUF connections at NUC.He must also explain how as a civilian he carried guns and killed a lot of innocent civilians in 99.
If he does not I will!!!!!!!!And show how he and Berewa's running mate Momodu Koroma are related in the Future Shock!!!!!!
Subject: Spencer's Agony
From: Hashim Daboh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:19:13 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: Gboyama@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: host86-164-57-51.range86-164.btcentralplus.com at 86.164.57.51
Message:
Ha ha ha !!! ,oh my foot ,you mean all the years Julius Spencer was in the kabbah caboodle he never realised that his government was nothing more than mere graduates of the sa.lone school of heartless looting and mass contract-gate. This is mimicry - you mean this academic jumbo couldn't come to terms with the travesty of the leadership he served. The funny thing in the learned Dr's publicity endeavour is that even lahai ,monina,yemes ,momoh who has never ventured beyond our national borders knows that in Africa we're comparatively the least in everything. Ngor Julius knew all along of the situation he described in his interesting piece ,but failed to challenge his colleagues or, may i say he refused to lead any public outcry of the stagnating situation,a patriotic endeavour expected of his kind. Well the man has probably forgotten his infamous phrase 'I'll not burn my bridges'. The fear of burning the so called bridges makes our government reps thrive in pomp and pageantry with our national purse through bogus and super inflated contracts and contract costs with impunity because those who should be enlightment to the masses are all afraid not to burn bridges.
In both Guinea and The Gambia ,the leaderships have vision for their country ,pride and sincere love . So even though there is public corruption in those two ,yet not to the nihilistic degree our leaders can go. In Conakry ,to rejuvenate Conakry ,Conteh took the bold step to not only clear the city of squatters ,but bulldozed lot of homes to realign the streets and other public structures . Where was Spencer when Freetown was abandoned by his government just because the municipality was governed by the opposition. Spencer said nothing .
In the UK where he's holidaying, even members of ruling party do make public criticism of their party leadership without fear. But correct me if am wrong ,Spence is yet to be on record during and after his cabinet days blasting the SLLP for poor stewardship .
It's only in Sierra Leone where the universities and its leaders makes no other meaningful contribution to the public debates . I'm still waiting to read from our leading economist from the colleges and universities to give us an academic analysis of the Kabbah leadership ,his accomplishment ,failures and setbacks. I urge the learned Dr. to inspire his colleagues to start daily commentary on national issues through our News papers ,the net ,journals ( that can reach the public) and any other medium necessary. For decency sake ,why has Spencer not asked for Kemoh Sesay's resignation over the drug saga. But again even Ernest should have shown the door to his minister on the simple grounds of conflict of interest- but that nar sa lone where maintaing bridges ( even at the detriment of national interest)is the watch word.
Sierra Leone is the only Mano River basin state without accessible international highways . Even war torn Liberia do maintain the IBB highway to the Mano river bridge ,same as Guinea/Salone connection. In a country where corrupt ministers and drug bandits are hailed as 'successful' ,fear of bridge burning is sacrosant. So Dr. speak up when u return to freetown ,and at least have the decency to tell us why you left Tejan's cabinet and, much more, an academic analysis of the SLLP led politics. Mind you both Jammeh and ailing never entered a university . So tell us something more honourable sir ! nough respect spence .
kehtamia
Subject: Is Port Loko Salone's Cocaine Capital?
From: DEA Agent (Freetown)
To: All
Date Posted: 15:44:11 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: mikekabia67@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
Why did Drug Barons choose Port Loko as prefered distribution center?
Subject: Salone Justice System Now Working?
From: Sam
To: All
Date Posted: 15:11:16 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
The govt released 13 of the drug suspects and the rest that were in custody were going to court today. From Cocorioko.."According to the Assistant Inspector-General of Police in charge of Crime Services, Francis Munu: We do have limitations in terms of constitutional requirement for the detention of persons who are being investigated. For this type of offence, it is 10 days and as we know, the 10 days period expires on Wednesday which means by Thursday these people should be brought to court,”
I applaud this move, but we know there are people sitting in Pademba Road that have not seen a judge in months if not years, so what is this all of a sudden? Have expensive foreign drug money paid for lawyers been brought in that will overwhelm our system?
Subject: Re: Salone Justice System Now Working?
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:37:29 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: sotie_jawara@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-72-75-97-90.washdc.east.verizon.net at 72.75.97.90
Message:
Ten days waiting period is even more than devastating.It only shows the crookish injusice in Sierra Leone . Please note how this system held more people in absolute suffering during the Kabbah so called coup case. I am not sure the law makers had human brains when they manufactred the law of detention. No doubts the cartoonist made no mistake, human beings with animal heads in parliament.
Subject: RUF Vanguards
From: Ghadafi
To: All
Date Posted: 13:59:05 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: kalhaji73@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: 53515272.cable.casema.nl at 83.81.82.114
Message:
There were six RUF Vanguards that left Libya to wage the war in Sierra Leone. They were Foday S. Sankoh, (Tonkolili) Rashid Mansaray (Port Loko), Abu Kanu (Port Loko), Abu Bakarr Sankoh (Tonkolili), Haroun Kamara ( Bombali) and Mike Lamin(Pujehun). Foday Sankoh like Napoleon in Animal Farm did not like rivals and so eliminated four of the original Vanguards sparing Mike Lamin alone who was loyal to him. He went on to recruited Issa Sesay (Tonkolili) Sam Bockarie (son of Tonkolili Woman and a Fula father from Kono, step-father from Kailahun), Gibril Massaquoi from Pujehun and Moris Kallon from Bo, Edred Collins from Freetown. They adore him like God. Records available at the SCSL negate popular belief that it was people from Kailahun that started the war but rather their youth were misused by Sankoh and his Temne brothers to fight against a Limba dominated APC of General Momoh.
Subject: Re: RUF Vanguards
From: guess historian
To: All
Date Posted: 17:11:32 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.108.136.237
Message:
Ghadafi where did you get this info? Wuna sef lek for fen plaba eh? Who told you Foday Sankoh was from Tonkolil? Bo the war don don leh we cam out plein about dis biggest conspiracy. Who told you Maskita was born by a tonkolili woman? Who told you maurice Kallon was not the brother of Sheku Kallon? Did you know when Issa Sesay came to the RUF? Who told you a whole secondary school from Pujeh did not disappear and join the RUF before even the war? Who told you Tom Nyuma (Mayor) did not work for both the NPRC and RUF?
If there is evidence that Foday Sankoh was not from Tonkolili then will you accept he was from Kailahun?
Subject: Foday Sankoh is from Masang Mayoso, Tonkolili District
From: Wilkepedia
To: All
Date Posted: 04:46:07 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: researcher01@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foday_Sankoh:
Foday Saybana Sankoh was born on October 17, 1937 in the village of Masang Mayoso, Tonkolili District in the Northern Province of Sierra Leone to an ethnic Temne father. Sankoh and two allies, Abu Kanu and Rashid Mansaray, returned from Libya to form the Revolutionary United Front(RUF).
Subject: Re: RUF Vanguards
From: Mustafa
To: All
Date Posted: 23:57:50 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: mabuju@googlemail.com
Entered From: 53515272.cable.casema.nl at 83.81.82.114
Message:
It is evident that the remains of both Foday Sayabana Sankoh and General Maskita were handed over to their relatives who buried them in their villages near Magburaka in the Tonkolili District. Confirm this with Mr Iscandri Esq who I believe was at the SCSL when the remains were handed over. He can also help by contacting his colleagues to confirm what Ghadafi asserted. Until we come to terms with the actual story, we are bound to fall victims of blood thirsty power drunk blokes again.
Subject: Rewriting History?
From: Akani Joe
To: All
Date Posted: 15:15:33 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
Sam Bockarie (son of Tonkolili Woman and a Fula father from Kono, step-father from Kailahun).
sam Bockari was born in Buedu to a Kissi/mende Family.
Capechi
Subject: From RUF Vanguards to Cocaine Traffickers
From: Drug Czar
To: All
Date Posted: 15:07:37 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: bulldozzer@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
Now their kin and kith have their fingerprints all over the cocaine plane.
We geh 4 pull lappa pan dem. Just wait en see.
Subject: Re: From RUF Vanguards to Cocaine Traffickers
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 16:02:38 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: soriejawara@verizon.com
Entered From: pool-72-75-97-90.washdc.east.verizon.net at 72.75.97.90
Message:
The information you have released is great and this will force any person to come out and unfold the biggest cover up corruption in history.Here again we can discover dangerous activities of people and organizations we honour. The Ecomog Commander gave the same analysis like you stated, but yours is effective and detailed. Question...WHY DID FORMER PRESIDENT KABBA, ECOWAS,SPECIAL COURT INCLUDING SITTING PRESIDENT DENY THE INVOLVEMENT OF GADAFI, THEY TOOK IT AS UNTRUE AND LACK OF SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE? Thank you.
Subject: The Obama Mania
From: Researcher
To: All
Date Posted: 13:55:43 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-66-137-227-214.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net at 66.137.227.214
Message:
Check out his Mandela smile and reaction to the East African Yodel that came from someone in the crowd.
Subject: KEMOH SESAY MUST RESIGN
From: Mohamed Barrie
To: All
Date Posted: 13:52:23 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: ncsneak@aol.com
Entered From: 24-181-27-97.dhcp.smyr.ga.charter.com at 24.181.27.97
Message:
Forget about the cocaine saga. For the simple reason that his brother was the manager at the airport,and he is the Minister of aviation is a conflict of interest.He should not supervise directly or indirectly a relative.This breeds discrimination and nepotism.
Subject: Re: KEMOH SESAY MUST RESIGN
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq.
To: All
Date Posted: 15:12:50 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Mr. Barrie with all due respect, Kemoh Sesays brother is NOT the manager at the airport, and if that is the only basis for your call for his resignation then you have no basis.
I ask that you and others calling for the Honorable Ministers head be very careful that you do not unfairly indict an innocent man. I am not saying that he is innocent but he very well may be and then what? Lets all be patient and await the results of the investigation of this whole saga and then watch and see whose voices will join yours for heads to roll.
Blessings
A
Subject: Re: KEMOH SESAY MUST RESIGN
From: Adu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 05:16:17 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: adu@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-45-255-9.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.45.255.9
Message:
Alieu
If this had happened in any civilised democracy, no one need to tell Khemoh sesay to go. The point is that this was a major breach of our aviation under his leadership. The fact that his employees were incompetent, he should be responsible and take the blame for that failing. Inspite of someone close to him has been implicated, Khemoh should go or sack by EBK.
In UK, the staff at the Home Office, failed to remove foreign criminals who had served their prison sentences, because immigration officers ommitted to serve the prisoners with deportation order in person. Charles Clerk, the Home Office minister and a friend of Tony Blair was sacked immediately.
EBK should do the same to prove that his administration is accountable and tranparent and efficient. It does not matter if Khemoh Sesay is directly or indirectly involed. The law will take care of that, but for now administrative prudence has to come in to play.
The fact that this guy is still head of the department when his brother is a major suspect in that ministery's failure, is undesirable and susceptible to conflict of interest.
Subject: Re: KEMOH SESAY MUST RESIGN
From: Dr. Nahim
To: All
Date Posted: 08:04:00 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ac202-058.resnet.stonybrook.edu at 130.245.202.58
Message:
Hi Adu Conteh Chez Winakabs. Hehehee
Subject: Re: KEMOH SESAY MUST RESIGN
From: Sam
To: All
Date Posted: 22:31:52 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Alieu, on one hand, I can understand one must make assesments on the facts, on the other hand, you are splitting hairs. Kemoh's brother might not be the airport mgr, but Kemoh is the aviation minister and his brother is overseas telling traffickers as much. As such, he needs to tender his resignation. ASAP.
Subject: Re: KEMOH SESAY MUST RESIGN
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 23:29:32 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
his brother is overseas telling traffickers as much
This is speculation as to what he is overseas telling drug traffickers and I dont believe that you can prove this. I say he stays on the job until enough evidence is adduced as to his innocence or culpability. whadda ya think? Should a man be respinsible for the acts of his brother. Isnt that kindda UNJUST? Doesnt this kind of MOB justice fly in the face if what is really just. Can he be convicted for something that he didnt do?
Subject: Re: KEMOH SESAY MUST RESIGN
From: Tamba Moiwo
To: All
Date Posted: 08:01:55 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: moiwo@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: gateway-303.energis.gsi.gov.uk at 62.25.109.196
Message:
No one is suggesting Kemoh is culpable by association.What really stinks here is the President's lack of decision in this whole matter.In any decent society,this dude would have been asked to step aside.Why President Koroma looks the other way reinforces the perception he is hopelessly out of his depths in running the affairs of State.Kemoh is not tried in the court of public opinion--but the public are intrigued by the continued retention of him inspite of the fact that as Minister the buck stops with him.
Perhaps to complicate matters dangerously for Prezzo, it is believed the Sesay brothers spent huge sums of money to bring the APC to power and his reluctance to see off Kemoh might be predicated on that.This is not partisan politics now--the reputation of our Country is in ruins and the Minister who is charged with overseeing our Transport Ministry stays put in the face of this bungling affair---Is it not time for Kemoh to go? What exactly was this performance contract between Prezzo and his cabinet about?
Subject: Re: KEMOH SESAY MUST RESIGN
From: Sam
To: All
Date Posted: 09:31:49 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-76-19-137-141.hsd1.ma.comcast.net at 76.19.137.141
Message:
On a technical basis you are right, but common my friend. Don't tell me you've been a lawyer so long over here that you are now like American lawyers, no one is guilty.
You have a Sierra Leonean, his brother is the aviation minister. He is bringing plane loads of drugs into the country. You don't think the drug dealers know that? And I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here, assuming he is just a middle man.
In any civilized country, Kemoh would have resigned by now. If nothing else, its too embarrassing and this goes to third world politicians who think their positions are their God given right. I am not even saying he should be fired, maybe for that, we can wait for the facts, but he needs to resign for decency sake.
Subject: Google "Port Loko Cocaine" and see for yourself
From: Mike Kabia
To: All
Date Posted: 15:33:14 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: mikekabia67@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
Kemoh's fingers are all over this cocaine business. APC Lawyer man please add DCE to your name..A Iscandri LLB, DCE... Defender of the Cocaine Empire
Subject: Re: Google "Port Loko Cocaine" and see for yourself
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 17:09:33 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
APC Lawyer man please add DCE to your name..A Iscandri LLB, DCE... Defender of the Cocaine Empire
You have just killed my spirit to continue the debate with you because your name calling does not sit well with me
Subject: Re: KEMOH SESAY MUST RESIGN
From: Sam
To: All
Date Posted: 15:06:08 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-76-19-137-141.hsd1.ma.comcast.net at 76.19.137.141
Message:
I've been posting this same thought since the story broke. That this guy can run around thinking he is not is brother and as such he can keep his job is ridiculous. First off, this was too big, so this is not the first time his brother is doing it.
Second, this is not pure coincidence, we'll give the Kemoh Sesay the benefit of the doubt and say he did not know, but I hope he is not too stupid to realize that his brother was using his name and position to do drug deals. In any civilized country, Kemoh would have tendered his resignation by now. He has to go.
Second, there were just way too many Sierra Leoneans involved, so yeah they bought the drugs in S. America, but I'm thinking the key people were Sierra Leoneans. So the head man (assuming there are no higher ups within the govt, is probably Kemoh's brother.)
Subject: Re: KEMOH SESAY MUST RESIGN
From: Adu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:46:07 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: adu@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-45-255-9.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.45.255.9
Message:
You are right, Khemoh sesay should have resigned the moment it was revealed that a plane loaded with cocain had violated our air space and landed at Lungi. That lapse alone was enough for him to resign. The problem is that what else can he do to make money without, nothing. Politics in Sierra Leone is about stealing.
Subject: Will EBK pay Kemoh's cocaine money back?
From: APC Central Committee
To: All
Date Posted: 14:59:23 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: abusesay1999@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
Kemoh has invested heavily in our party. Its impossible for any of you pundits to have any impact on our leader's demonstrated lack of will to sack an investor like Kemoh... cocaine or no cocaine.
Subject: 'but in 10 years was not able to generate enough forward mov
From: Ronaldino
To: All
Date Posted: 12:59:11 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 92-233-68-169.cable.ubr12.croy.blueyonder.co.uk at 92.233.68.169
Message:
Bravo Mr Spencer!! Now them Slppers can see why they lost the elections. Tens years with no progress but villas and ML's. Why did you not resign?
Subject: THE WHITE MAN SAID OBAMA IS NOW BEHAVING NOW AS A PRESIDENT
From: bagbo
To: All
Date Posted: 13:29:06 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: bagbo@limba.com
Entered From: wnpgmb1309w-ad05-61-182.dynamic.mts.net at 142.161.61.182
Message:
Will obama win?
Subject: In 10 months, APC turns Salone to a Drug traficking Country
From: Foday Suma
To: All
Date Posted: 13:14:00 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: fodaysuma76@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.205.177.234
Message:
In only 10 months your APC has turned Salone into the Cocaine Capital of the West African Coast. Can you imagine what they would do in 5 years?
Subject: Re: In 10 months, APC turns Salone to a Drug traficking Country
From: Aziz
To: All
Date Posted: 16:10:39 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: alziz2002@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 78.146.81.113
Message:
Mr Suma the present APC govt in my opinion has started off well compared to what the SLPP did in 11 years.
It is unfortunate that people like you are making false assumptions and accusation for political reasons.Let's wait for the SLP to conclude their investigation
Subject: Live Broadcast - Obama in Berlin
From: News
To: All
Date Posted: 12:38:54 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Watch:
Subject: HE TOUGHT THEM HISTORY
From: bagbo
To: All
Date Posted: 12:58:39 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: bagbo@limba.com
Entered From: wnpgmb1309w-ad05-61-182.dynamic.mts.net at 142.161.61.182
Message:
He is like sheku toure who talks hrs. without reading from papers
Subject: Why is Kabs K mute about the FBI & Scotland Yard role in SL
From: Forum Evaluator
To: All
Date Posted: 12:33:41 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: musukaloko@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.205.177.234
Message:
This is really distasteful. Why is Kabs silent over the FBI and Scotland Yard lie? Is it because you believe no one will check?
Well I think you are wrong and should listen to the BBC report on Monday 28th.
Reverend Kabs remember God is watching us all, especially the 'men of God'. Lets put Salone first.
Subject: Re: Why is Kabs K mute about the FBI & Scotland Yard role in SL
From: Forum Fair man
To: All
Date Posted: 14:26:43 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-98-221-84-0.hsd1.nj.comcast.net at 98.221.84.0
Message:
Forum Evaluator, why are you guys so stupid ? Was it not the Foreign Minister who said so ? Why are you getting mad with Kabs Kanu who is only doing his job of publishing what his reporters send him ? You guys are very stupid, but I am not surprised. You are SLPP.
Subject: Re: Why is Kabs K mute about the FBI & Scotland Yard role in SL
From: Forum Evaluator
To: All
Date Posted: 14:50:56 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: musukaloko@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
The Man of God has a right to double check a controversial story. He can simply ascertain that in one phone call to the British Embassy or the FBI's info section in the US.
Mr Man, I am more APC than you are, I just care more about my nation. Please get your siily @$$ to answer this simple quest:
Foreign Minister said FBI & Scotland Yard are in Freetown... what does Kabs Kanu say?
Are they or are they not... and yoiu call yourself a newspaer. Forum Fair Man, you should add DCE to your name... Defender of the Cocaine Empire.
Subject: Re: Why is Kabs K mute about the FBI & Scotland Yard role in SL
From: The Patriot
To: All
Date Posted: 16:00:00 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-98-221-84-0.hsd1.nj.comcast.net at 98.221.84.0
Message:
You don't make sense to me, sir. Other newspapers reported the same story, not only Cocorioko. Did they have to call the British Embassy for a statement by the country's Foreign Minister ? I don't think so, sir. Do you hold your lie-lie NEW PEOPLE newspaper to the same standards ?
Subject: The Official Website of The Knights Party, USA (KKK)
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 12:06:54 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 208.3.139.43
Message:
"Our Goal
The time in which we live is very exciting and any like minded individual would be proud to be an associate or supporter of this grass-roots movement to take back America. The Knights Party, will in the years to come, become recognized by the American people as THE WHITE RIGHTS MOVEMENT! Where ever they live, whatever their personal religious denomination may be, no matter what present political or fraternal organization they may be with, everyone should support The Knights Party as the political PARTY of the future and the Last Hope for America. The Knights Party, realizing that to achieve true security for our people we must achieve political power in the United States, will:
A. Become the leader of the White racialist movement
Through a strong organized show of leadership
Through the training and use of qualified media representatives
Through a concerted effort of all Klansmen and Klanswomen to carefully follow instructions, suggestions, and guidelines as set by headquarters and to continually strive to be THE BEST
B. Strive to become the representative and driving force behind the White Community
Through an aggressive use of television, radio, and print advertising
Through huge nationwide literature drives in which millions of people are reached with our literature.
To legally break through the liberal wall that surrounds America's colleges and universities - to reach and instruct students in the reclaiming of their schools.
Through the effective use of project committees to assist in the re-education of law enforcement agencies and the educational establishment. These two very important groups must be given another side of the story instead of only receiving information from organizations such as the ADL, NAACP, or ACLU
C. Organize and direct white people to a level of activism necessary to bring about a political victory.
Through the organizing and maintenance of strong local units.
Through bold public relations campaigns focusing on two main ideas:
The White Christian people have been betrayed by our nations political, economic, educational, and religious leaders
The Knights Party is the last hope for America.
Through the aggressive and combined effort of Knights' units (The core of the grassroots movement) to work within their community in all aspects of a political campaign, including but not limited to:
Getting literature into the hands of everyone in the community.
Keeping the name "The Knights Party" in continual high profile.
Sponsoring ads in local newspapers and on local radio and television networks.
Working on petition drives to achieve ballot access for Klansmen or Klanswomen who run for either local, state, or federal offices; such as school board, mayor, state representative, congress, senate, etc.
Conducting community goodwill projects.
Organizing and working on "get to the polls" campaigns, to insure that everyone who will vote in our favor can have the opportunity to do so.
Recruiting new associates and volunteers for The Knights Party who will work toward the election of Klansmen and Klanswomen to public office.
We must take back control of OUR U.S. government. We intend to put Klansmen and Klanswomen in office all the way from the local school board to the White House!
WHAT IS OUR GOAL ?
POLITICAL POWER"
http://www.kkk.bz/ourgoal.htm
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I have to find out my Klan status because since 1956 I have not contributed. Rev. KABS-KANU how was the last klan meeting, Neyjersy Chapter?
I might attend the Sierra Leonean branch of the K.K.K.
Subject: Albright the United States would give Sierra Leone $55 Mill
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 11:46:41 07/24/08 ()
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18 October: U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright met in Freetown Monday with President Kabbah, former AFRC Chairman Lieutenant-Colonel Johnny Paul Koroma, RUF leader Corporal Foday Sankoh, government officials, and members of civil society groups. Sankoh failed to show up for an initial meeting which was attended by President Kabbah, but his absence was attributed to logistical problems in returning from his base in Kailahun District. Albright later met the two rebel leaders at the home of U.S. Ambassador to Sierra Leone Joseph Melrose where, according to Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Susan Rice, she planned to deliver a "tough message" and "express very strongly the world's outrage at the atrocities" committed in Sierra Leone, and to appeal to the two men to cooperate in order to make the Lomé Peace Accord work. "She will be urging them to demobilize and to do all the things required in the agreement and to cooperate as the process moves forward,'' Rice added. "She will call for swift disarmament, the release of prisoners and co-operation with the international community." Asked whether the presence of Koroma and Sankoh at the ambassador's residence meant an end to the rift between them, she replied: "No. (Albright) wants to encourage them to cooperate. The fact that they met in the same room does not mean that everything is okay...There are significant problems between the two rebel leaders." In a news conference following the meeting, Albright said the United States would give Sierra Leone $55 million in humanitarian aid to help it recover from eight years of civil war and would waive $65 million in debt if it embarked on an IMF programme. "We and the international community will be watching to see that the rebels make good on their promises to end the fighting and disarm,'' Albright said. "The United States wants to support reconciliation and peace although we understand very well where the greatest share of responsibility for the violence lies.'' The $55 million would reportedly consist of $32 million in food assistance, $12 million for disaster aid, $4 million for education, $5 million for refugees in Guinea and Liberia, and $1 million for civil society programmes. Albright also announced $11 million in additional logistical aid for ECOMOG, and $1 million for the Strategic Minerals Commission aimed at marking diamonds to verify those that had been exported legally. While Sierra Leone is estimated to produce from $300 million to $450 million in diamonds each year, industry analysts say most of them are smuggled out of the country through Liberia. In Belgium during 1997 and 1998 a total of 8.3 million carats in rough diamonds worth $601 million were imported from Liberia, although the U.S. Geological Survey estimates that Liberia's diamond industry is capable of producing only about 60,000 carats per year. Diamond buyers in Antwerp routinely label Sierra Leonean stones as Liberian, a diamond industry analyst told the Washington Post. During her one-day visit to Sierra Leone, Albright visited a some of the victims of atrocities at the Murraytown Amputee Camp, an experience she described as "heart wrenching and stomach churning." She said she could understand the feelings of those who had been mutilated "for no reason except that somebody hated them — it's a great tragedy." Still, she said, she found a glimmer of hope among the residents. "I had the feeling they were willing to do something different," she said. The Secretary of State said the United States still wanted to see justice done, and pledged U.S. support for a Truth and Reconciliation Commission called for in the Lomé Peace Accord. Without justice, she said, peace and reconciliation would not be easy to achieve. "The international community has been watching Sierra Leone fall apart for years," she said. "I hope that now the international community can help Sierra Leone knit itself back together."
______________________________________________________Scroll down to the date and see pictures. This is what has been going on.
Subject: Why did APC overplay FBI involvment in Cocaine Horror
From: Mark Williams Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 11:31:47 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: amcaffrey@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.205.177.234
Message:
The APC has been very dastardy in fooling Sierra Leoneans worldwide that there is a serious engagement of international investigators in the ongoing horror story of Salone.
Its a smokescreen... a whitewash... an empty bluf... that has allowed VP Sumana's best friend and sponsor, GK of the GK 001 fame that breached our national security and helped the pilot-cocaine trafickers escape from Lungi to Port Loko.
APC can, through ONS, put out an internatuional warrant...if they really want to crack the case... but do they? Their whole Cocaine-based government will collapse if GK spills the bin. All that campaign money for EBK... all those weapons brought in to destroy Salone again if their bid failed..
Anyway hakey nar dae best. We all saw how Bambay and Highway ended... lets watch the space.
Subject: Ask the hyprocite Lawyer - Alieu Iscandri
From: Saidu Kargbo
To: All
Date Posted: 11:53:33 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: amcaffrey@yahoo.com
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Message:
Alieu behaves 'lawyerly' when it comes to supporting our cocaine government. However, when it comes to defending the nation against lies of government such as FBI & Scotland Yard involvement, his silence becomes deafening.
Why Kortor Alieu? Why?
Would you rather see Sierra Leone collapse under a cocaine sponsored regime or would you stand up for justice for achange?
We are watching all of you closely.
Subject: Re: Ask the hyprocite Lawyer - Alieu Iscandri
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 13:09:53 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Okay Mr. Kargbo I am recovered from my bout of laughter now and I would like to address your position.
I have been duly informed that there are personnel from the Scotland Yard and the FBI. I have NO reason to disbelieve this fact. The APC is not a cocaine sponsoring reieme as far as I know and if you know anything about me, you would know that I have a penchant for speaking my position on issues of justice. But then again your idea of what might be just may be in total opposition to mine. Yours may be partisan and mine is definitely national. I see these issues from a global perspective and you see it from a local perspective with a tribal partisan and provincial bent. That is what defines MYOPIA.
For once in your life, think Sierra Leone first and understand that this cocaine issue is a national issue and if youlike me are hell bent against our country becoming a way port for drug transhipments then by all means speak up in favor of sierra leone. So far you are not under all of your normal names you use on the forum. PS. I know when you write under all of your names, dont ask me how.
Subject: Re: Ask the hyprocite Lawyer - Alieu Iscandri
From: Saidu Kargbo
To: All
Date Posted: 13:31:13 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: amcaffrey@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.205.177.234
Message:
What exactly is your national stance sir? Is it keeping mute about VP Sumana's link with Gibril, owner of GK 001 that smashed our airport perimeter to rescue the Cocaine traffickers? Or is it the fact that you also pretend not to know that APC vons ensured a safe passage for the Drug Czar to cross our borders to a safe haven? Or maybe it is because you are not aware of the Port Loko Cocaine NGO opened by Kemoh Sesay and his gang.
Kortoh, we are all watching and we will know the true patriots when the dust settles.
I just hope you are amongst them... or am I dreaming.
Subject: Re: Ask the hyprocite Lawyer - Alieu Iscandri
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq.
To: All
Date Posted: 15:06:45 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
You are making accusations against a seating Vice President that are unsubstantiated. Give me some facts my friend or keep quiet. If the VP has a link with this so called Gibril, then tell s the "link". This Gibril may very well be and it can be circumstantially established that he is the owner of the vehicle license plate that you mentioned, however you fail to show the link. In order to be credible, you should be ready to provide cogent facts to support your position and not rely on hearsay which is unreliable.
You claim that I "pretend" to know that APC vons ensurd a safe pasage to the alleged Drug Czar to cross our borders to a safe haven. My friend I live in California, how do you expect me to have this knowledge if I am not a co conspirator? Arent you strretching logic a lil bit here or the truth?
I have an affinity for port Loko but I was noit aware of this so called Cocaine NGO opened by Kemoh Sesay and if you are aware of this so called Cocaine NGO, what is its name? You patriotism is at stake if you have such information and you fail to provide it to the authorities in Freetown.
If you notice I have not chimmed in my usual two penny worth with regards to these dastardly accusations flying around. I have also heard about a JJ saffa link and I have no opinions about it either.
The truth is that we should stop making these wild accusations and focus on the results of the investigations and if any of these matter that you allege are true, then providing that information to the investigators or the office of National security or the Sierra Leone ambassador would be an act of TRUE patriotism.
Come on prove it or take a chill pill with all of these wild and unsubstantiated accusations.
Oh by the way you are really dreaming. LOL
Subject: Re: Ask the hyprocite Lawyer - Alieu Iscandri
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 12:45:28 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Am caffery,
I was going to respond until I saw your e mail athat you were a kaffir and I have been laughing since then. No response to a person who designates himself as the "devil".
Subject: new people lies exposed........hahahahahahaha
From: Lef for lie
To: All
Date Posted: 10:24:38 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Subject: Re: new people lies exposed........hahahahahahaha
From: Plaba Bessie
To: All
Date Posted: 12:28:16 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 216.7.253.254
Message:
I have read both articles. I do not see where New People lied. New People mentioned that old lapses in security at the airport during SLPP had not been addressed by the APC and as such this facilitated the free transit flight. I studied the letter closely and the notes show that the SL Police or SLPP government (whichever, I don't care) did address some of Ch Supt. Karrow's concerns.
I think the author should have posted the other article in which the airport personnel claim that Kemoh Sesay did authorise the flights to land. That's the one Bhai Sesay needs to disprove, I think.
I have no stake in this. I just want to see people playing fairly.
Subject: Re: new people lies exposed........hahahahahahaha
From: Dr. Nahim
To: All
Date Posted: 11:03:20 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Nar now u know say Sheku nar crase ma?
Subject: Re: new people lies exposed........hahahahahahaha
From: Kinny Brima
To: All
Date Posted: 11:25:34 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.203.80.27
Message:
Una beteh kerr am go na crase yard. dis man certainly needs help.
Subject: Remembering "Dr Oloh": what would music be like without him?
From: Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas
To: All
Date Posted: 10:15:12 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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THE GREAT DR. OLOH;
Olufemi Cole, commonly known as Oloh, was born in the mountain village of Leicester near Freetown on the 20th of March 1944. Born of humble parents, Dr. Oloh never enjoyed the luxury of a secondary school education.
Due to the limited financial resources of his parents, he was forced to leave school at an early age to earn a living. He traipsed all over Freetown in search of those houses where musicians used to practice. It was clear that Oloh was looking for the opportunity to get into the music business. He was always fascinated by the maestro and guitarist, Dr. Dynamite (Masokoloko). His influence on Oloh was profound. At that point in his life, he was toying with the idea of becoming a priest. But his weak educational background hampered him and he quickly abandoned his ambition of becoming a priest. Oloh then switched to music and discovered a niche in the market. As they say, the rest is history.
Dr Oloh discovered that he could still preach to people through his music. He organised his first group, comprising percussion instruments. He composed and performed songs, which were relevant to the community. Oloh rapidly became a household name.
At the early age of 10, he started making music with empty milk cans and bottles. His musical ingenuity and his unending desire to develop Sierra Leone’s rich cultural heritage, forced him into the full-blown music scene. Oloh‘s ambition was to blend the native Sierra Leonean music Caribbean and Latin American musical influences. That was the birth of his internationally famous ‘Milo Beat’. Although ‘Gumbay Beat’ had existed, Oloh saw the need to blend both sounds in his repertoire. Oloh began gaining dominance after he was invited to perform with the Creole music exponent and legend, Ebenezer Calendar.
Oloh was “awarded” a Doctorate Degree by a grateful Sierra Leonean community, which was greatly impressed with his dedication and contribution to local folk and popular music. Oloh continued to develop his musical genre, which ultimately became known as ‘Milo Jazz’. Getting people out of their seats on to the dance floor was an easy task for Oloh. His music was exciting and electrifying. There were no steps or moves to learn. It was simply a matter of responding to the beat.
That was the new circuit of ravers that Oloh animated and musically helped to de-colonise in the late Sixties and Seventies. Prior to that period, the Creoles of Freetown remained in contact with their Africana roots through ‘Gumbay Music’. That music evolved during sojourns of their ancestors in the West Indies, and they brought it back with them after surviving the long period of enslavement.
Sierra Leoneans did not only dance to the infectious beat of Milo Jazz, they also accompanied him in the singing as well. It was no longer just the music of a group of people afraid of losing their culture; it became the music of the entire nation seeking to be reunited by its culture. Oloh had many student musicians in his college and had the ability to supply an ensemble for several engagements at the same time.
In 1989, Oloh was awarded the OR (Order of Rokel) by the Government of Sierra Leone, during the Presidency of H.E. Joseph Saidu Momoh, for his musical excellence and contribution to the national development of music and culture.
Dr. Oloh had a large repertoire. Dr. Oloh and his Milo Jazz Band performed for the first time outside Sierra Leone in 1991, when he was invited by international music impresario Akie Deen to perform at the Sierra Showcase Event at the prestigious Empire Ballrooms in Leicester Square, London. In 1992 he travelled again to the United Kingdom on tour. In 1994 he performed with other Sierra Leonean musicians at a benefit concert for the late musical legend, S.E. Rogie. His last performance in London was in 1996 when he performed at the Centenary Celebration of one of Sierra Leone’s heroes, Bai Bureh.
Dr. Oloh continued his musical career until his death after a short illness in Freetown on the 13th of October 2007
(By Akie Deen. Courtesy Standard Times)
Subject: Re: Remembering "Dr Oloh": what would music be like without him?
From: Fan of Curtis
To: All
Date Posted: 10:28:28 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Now that you have appeared, some people are already quaking in their holes for fear of those precision-guided 500 pound laser bombs. MKK, you dae tremble eh? You masta don cam!
Subject: Re: Remembering "Dr Oloh": what would music be like without him?
From: Chiefdom Elders
To: All
Date Posted: 10:34:01 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Posted by Fan of Curtis on July 24, 2008 at 10:28:28:
In Reply to: Remembering posted by Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas on July 24, 2008 at 10:15:12:
"Now that you have appeared, some people are already quaking in their holes for fear of those precision-guided 500 pound laser bombs. MKK, you dae tremble eh? You masta don cam!"
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You forgot to add "bunker-penetrating bomb, that can smoke terrorists from their holes"!
Subject: Re: Remembering "Dr Oloh": what would music be like without him?
From: Kinny Brima
To: All
Date Posted: 11:33:09 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Thank you Curtis, for giving credit to Standard Times. Now you will be my friend as long as you don't plagiarise.
Subject: Tom Nyumah is already regretting the Kailahun Mayoralty!
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 10:10:23 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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When Tom Nyumah was running for Lord Mayor of Kailahun, he and the One-Party SLPP establishment hyped it up as the Second Coming. Now that he has won, Tom is seriously regretting the 'fone-toba' office he was elected to. He now suspects that he had been duped by John Benjamin, JB Dauda, Sama Banya, Maada Bio, J.J Blood and the other SLPP honchos who wanted to sideline him from active SLPP politics. What better place to exile an ambitious, uppity politician like Nyumah than oh-so-remote Kailahun?
Nyumah is said to be angry that he has to beg Karimu and Benjamin for cigarette money and for his wife to cook at home. The salary is peanuts and the mosquitoes are biting. The other sad thing is that some of the locals who voted for him are now expecting some recompense, which is not forthcoming because Nyumah is flat broke. Already people are grumbling that the new mayor is 'crabbit'.
I think APC/PMDC will build on the coming SLPP fatigue and lower the boom on the Puawui group.
Subject: BOLONY MY FRIEND!
From: bagbo
To: All
Date Posted: 10:22:44 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: bagbo@limba.com
Entered From: wnpgmb1309w-ad05-61-182.dynamic.mts.net at 142.161.61.182
Message:
You hate Tom but the guy has got what he wanted.How much did APC get in Kailahun?
Subject: Re: BOLONY MY FRIEND!
From: Baloney
To: All
Date Posted: 10:32:21 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
It's a tragedy that you misspelled Baloney. SLPP sorry lek craseman sorefoot.
Subject: MISSPELLED BOLONY{CAN YOU PLEASE CORRECT IT RATHER}?
From: bagbob
To: All
Date Posted: 12:39:58 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: bagbo@limba.com
Entered From: wnpgmb1309w-ad05-61-182.dynamic.mts.net at 142.161.61.182
Message:
I never made it buddy but if you can just correct the mistake.All i know is that i told uman lappa the truth.
Subject: Re: BOLONY MY FRIEND!
From: Kinny Brima
To: All
Date Posted: 11:37:28 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.203.80.27
Message:
you mean say Kialaihun ranger nor get money?
Subject: Re: BOLONY MY FRIEND!
From: yes sir
To: All
Date Posted: 13:50:36 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: yessir@msn.com
Entered From: proxy3a.external.lmco.com at 192.35.35.34
Message:
we need to stop expecting the government to do for us. its enough fo us overseas to send money to build our towns. why dont we do that. i am not slpp or apc. but it amazesme that we do not want to send money or develop our areas but we are quick to give money to political parties or to have a say at the table.
Subject: To Major Rico
From: Farrah Marrah
To: All
Date Posted: 10:05:19 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 134.113.7.99
Message:
Did Brigadier Bangura visit Stevens the day prior to the coup?
Subject: Re: To Major Rico
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 19:11:16 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-231-21-144.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.231.21.144
Message:
Mr.Marrah,dont waste your time on this fellow.To start with,i think i now know who he is.He had a vested interest in the army because a relative of his was part of the army.He has long ceased knowing anything about the army from April 18,1968 when his relative and others were arrested,detained,charged with treason,and convicted.From April 1968,he could not even be seen in any of the military depots from Wilberforcr to Juba,let alone Daru.
So,do not waste your time.Even though at one time he lived with his relative who was an officer and he became a member of the NRC for three months,nontheless,i think i have more information on the army than he did.While he was in this country,i was still in Sierra Leone.The last time i asked him few questions about some officers such as Modu Hanciles,Lansana Turay,Ben Kargbo,DembyFowel Spencer he was unable to say anything to the effect because what ever association he had about the army vanished in 1968.He is not in a position to know whether Bangura visited Stevens before the ill fated operations.
Once he cannot tell me about those officers as to what befell them,i will not waste my time to respond to him any more.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
ps;I will tell you his political activities in the Tejan Kabbah government and even before when he contested the general election for the Kailahun central constituency,the place Maigore Kallon formerly represented in Parliament.
USA.
Subject: Re: To Major Rico
From: Kongosah
To: All
Date Posted: 08:08:03 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
"Kongosah Aye nor take case way dem nor call you name pan Bara case!"
....Sierra Leone Music.
Kutubu Koroma!You think you own the monopoly of Sa Lone Military History but you are just making a foool of yourself by not allowing the officer to speak for himself..
FYI I have seen black and white pictures of this man with Bangurah when the latter was only a captain!...so I know that they were acquainted....
I have also seen pictures that were taken at Momoh's wedding and he was posing with Momoh,Caulker,Tony Conteh,and Toronka, all in uniforms..
Kutubu,what makes you think that a person who lived opposite a place officer's frequented at Dan Street will know these soldiers better than their comrades who lived and worked with them in the Barracks?
Subject: Re: To Major Rico
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 09:08:52 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-231-21-144.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.231.21.144
Message:
My friend,if this guy is actually what he claims what to be ,he should have addressed all the questions put tom him.The guy like i said,i know very well including his brother was kicked out of the army from captain to security guard at the bank.Besides,that he is very educated as he holds i believe a Master's degree in political science and he was here in the area driving ice cream truck for good humor and he left for reasons which i dont want to embarrass him on this forum.He knows that.This guy is capable of responding for himself and he has decided to take the 5th.amendment to the constitution.He only wanted to be in the headline to give the impression that he was one of the big shots.The fact of the matter is that he was never in the army let lone rose to that rank.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Re: To Major Rico
From: Major Rico
To: All
Date Posted: 11:34:49 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I am neither the ex Capt; nor the former Ambassador Foyah....so if you plan to target the Foyah's ..feel free to do so without bringing me into the fray.
Thank You.
Subject: Re: To Major Rico
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 20:32:44 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-231-21-144.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.231.21.144
Message:
No body has named people in my piece and i have no intention to target any one.The gentleman in question is a very good friend.What i am driving at is to debunk anything on your part to let me appear as if i am making up stories.I am exceedingly happy that you have confirmed the fact that Bangura did visit Stevens prior to the ill planned military operations designed to remove him from power.
Like i said in my earlier piece,while i do not have monopoly of information on Sierra Leone as it existed before,i however know lots about it because,i did meet lots of officers.Between 1967 to 68,there were no more than 36 officers in the army from the rank of Brigadier to 2nd Lt.Also most of those officers were either found at My Shop on Sanders street,or 61 Westmoreland street,or 24 Dan street,in the East end of Freetown.In addition to the many officers i met,i also personally met people like Sheku Ahmed Tejan Bayoh and Joseph Bandabla Dauda while they both were students at FBC,D.B.Quee,and George Banda Thomas before he left to stude law.He was a clerk in the courts system then.
I dont write anything i do not know fully first hand.Anything i put my name after it is very true.My final advice to you be very careful how you challenge my postings.Make sure you have the facts to counter what i write other than that you will really be in rough waters with me regardless of what ever claim you can lay to academia.Your action was a culculated attempt to make a fool of me.You are only backing down now when it became apparent to you that i was getting ready to play hard ball with you.On this forum,i do not challenge people's postings if i am not sure of my ground.Everthing therefore on Bangura in this edition stands Ipso facto.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
USA.
Subject: Re: To Major Rico
From: Farrah Marrah
To: All
Date Posted: 13:12:16 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 134.113.7.99
Message:
Major Rico,
Can you please respond to my question: If Brigadier Bangura had visited Stevens prior to his coup?
This will be my FINAL QUESTION on this matter.
Thanks.
Subject: Re: To Major Rico
From: Major Rico
To: All
Date Posted: 16:18:23 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Bangurah did visit Stevens delirious and intoxicated as usual.
Stevens gave him the kiss of death with a bottle of Johnny Walker Black Label whisky...
At that time all of his moves were being monitored and promptly reported to Lt.Toronka by Sankoh and Bangurah's driver Morlai an alleged relative of his estranged wife Regina....
Toronka in turn would immediately forward the info recieved to Momoh for the attention of Stevens.
Good Luck with my final answer!
Subject: Re: To Major Rico
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 22:40:10 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-231-21-144.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.231.21.144
Message:
Just to add to Bangura's public drunkeness,even on an important day such as the time he was telling the nation of the overthrow of the NRC and the formation of the NIC,one can sense that he was under the influence of alcohol because he was so incoherent and sluggish in the speech.
The fellow was an unmitigated disaster and gathering threat to himself and the national security of Sierra Leone in his role as chief of army staff.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Re: To Major Rico
From: Bizabody
To: All
Date Posted: 23:44:01 07/25/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I believe the Major was analyzing an event and not the character of Brigadier Bangurah.....
It is quite true that small minds discuss people and great minds focus on ideas!
Subject: Re: To Major Rico
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 00:20:45 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-231-21-144.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.231.21.144
Message:
When you are a public official supported by tax payers,you should expect to be discussed.
For your information,he was never in the army let alone attain the rank of major.He has been challenged on so many things but simply cannot meet the test of time.
Subject: Re: To Major Rico
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 09:42:30 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-231-21-144.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.231.21.144
Message:
The other thing you should no about this so called Major is that when Tejan Kabbah put in him a position that had to do with all the funds for rehailitation,he went on house building spree in record time to the extent even some of his friends and town mates started questioning where he got the funds from so quick.
Kabbah later appointed him Ambassador to one of the African countries.This should show you how much i know about this fellow.He has put himself in the same predicament as Dr.A.O.Conteh and he should be prepared to face the baptism of fire from me.I have more to reveal about him to let you know he is not what he wants people to believe he was and is.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Re: To Major Rico
From: Major Rico
To: All
Date Posted: 23:29:14 07/25/08 ()
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Message:
My friend,
I have been on a political sabbatical for a very long time....
However, I confess that my service as observer in the national elections last year became the conduit for my foray into the modern politics of Sa Lone...
so your rants about my links with kabba are all unfounded.
Subject: Re: To Major Rico
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 00:27:59 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-231-21-144.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.231.21.144
Message:
I see now you have moved from the army to politics when i have turned the heat on you exposing your chicanery and subterfuge.
Frankly speaking,why dont you be a man by coming out of your gay closet because you keep hinding under a false identity and as long as you dont reveal your true self,you are going to become another Dr.A.O Conteh on this forum where you will be brought down.
Only criminal elements who have things to hide and gays like you who are less of a man hide your true identity.
Subject: Re: To Major Rico
From: Major Rico
To: All
Date Posted: 15:08:03 07/26/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-67-244-6-35.nyc.res.rr.com at 67.244.6.35
Message:
FYI I have slept with the B!*@H you call wife and you have the timerity to label me gay R@S C(0t
Subject: Re: To Major Rico
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 08:24:53 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-231-21-144.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.231.21.144
Message:
Listen big man,this guy like i have just said i know him,he was here in the Usa and went back to contest the election some years back and lost.Along with his brother,they were kicked out of the military as way back as April 18,1968.When his brother was released from jail he was one of those in the likes of Blake ,Sam Boma,and others who went to State House begging Stevens for jobs.He was sent to te Bank of Sierra Leone as a member of the security force.Blake was sent to the SLPMB,while Pobe was sent to ATC.The only officer i know that did not go genuflecting before Stevens was Idrissa Kaisamba.
Let this so called "Major"Rico tell me the names of all the officers who were next door to the Tarawalie family.Let me name two of the children of that family.
This guy had no access to any of the military depots after April 18,1968 because he and his relatives were all security risks.
I have interacted with more officers than he did.
The ball is in his court let himanswer the questions i have put to him and i will have more for him.As far as the military of Sierra Leone that existed then,he has no more information on them than myself.That is plain and simple.I know the guys name.He knows i know him,and i dont know why he wants to play the fools game with me.People like you,he will take for ride .For me,no dice.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Cocaine seizure triggers youth violence in Freetown
From: Owai Ococaine
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Date Posted: 09:35:56 07/24/08 ()
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Cocaine seizure triggers youth violence in Freetown
Youths in Freetown took the law into to their hands in the wake of the seized 700kg of cocaine at the Lungi International Airport ten days ago, by launching an attack on a Freetown businessman, suspected of dealing in drugs.
The angry youths on Tuesday 22 July, stormed Key Enterprises on Old Railway Line, Brookfields, and mobbed the proprietor, Kemoh Kargbo and a few others claiming that Mr. Kargbo’s business was thriving on drug money. Kargbo and two of his attendants sustained injuries as they attempted to prevent their shop from been looted.
A bag containing the sum of Le 27 Million was snatched away. Kargbo sells interior decoration and household appliances. He was offloading new arrivals, which the suspicious youths claimed to be cocaine and jumped into action. The police have reportedly confirmed the attack, reports Awoko.
Subject: Re: Cocaine seizure triggers youth violence in Freetown
From: Stop this propaganda, Alieu Sesay.
To: All
Date Posted: 09:48:04 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.208.81
Message:
Me man, you nor dae blow with dis lie, lie?
Subject: Re: Cocaine seizure triggers youth violence in Freetown
From: Owai Ococaine
To: All
Date Posted: 09:53:17 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ac202-058.resnet.stonybrook.edu at 130.245.202.58
Message:
Who is the fool now?
Subject: Re: Cocaine seizure triggers youth violence in Freetown
From: Stop the propaganda, Alieu Sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 10:15:41 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.208.81
Message:
You are, my friend, for taking allegations by Awoko as God's gospel truth. Newspapers in Freetown have been known to lie, you know.
Subject: ALIEU, WHAT ABOUT COCORIOCO ABOUT LIES?
From: bagbo
To: All
Date Posted: 10:19:33 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: bagbo@limba.com
Entered From: wnpgmb1309w-ad05-61-182.dynamic.mts.net at 142.161.61.182
Message:
Are you forgetting the lies from cocorioco too?
Subject: Re: ALIEU, WHAT ABOUT COCORIOCO ABOUT LIES?
From: Thank your stars for Cocorioko
To: All
Date Posted: 10:40:19 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.208.81
Message:
If it were not for Cocorioko, you wouldn't be enlightened about the happenings in Sierra Leone. If you wnnt to see the lies, just go to the SLPP rags like New People, AT*, etc.
By the way, this sounds like my old friend Okdok.
Subject: ARE SURE ITS ONLY COCORIOCO?
From: bagbo
To: All
Date Posted: 12:42:34 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: bagbo@limba.com
Entered From: wnpgmb1309w-ad05-61-182.dynamic.mts.net at 142.161.61.182
Message:
I am not sure its only cocorioco.
Subject: Elders of Diang Chiefdom reject reinstated Paramount Chief
From: Koinadugu
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Date Posted: 09:34:15 07/24/08 ()
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Elders of Diang Chiefdom reject reinstated Paramount Chief
The elders of Diang Chiefdom in the Koinadugu District, north of Sierra Leone, have reportedly, recently led a delegation to the President and his Vice to register their vehement objection to the reinstatement of Paramount Chief Sheku Magba Koroma 111.
They threatened to die in preventing the Government from reinstating the embattled Chief, who they accused of embezzling chiefdom revenue and misrule. They called for a judicial inquiry into the allegations against the Chief and an independent investigation into the alleged maltreatment of his subjects. The tension reached a height with two critics of the Chief been injured on different dates. Chief Magba was suspended from office by the last Government and a Regent Chief instated pending investigation.
The incumbent Government claims that following its completion of the findings they saw no wrong-doing by the Chief; and on that strength, they had decided to give back the throne to the Chief, reports Premier News.
Victory celebration spits violence in Kenema
Subject: Re: Elders of Diang Chiefdom reject reinstated Paramount Chief
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 16:21:57 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: soriejawara@verizon.com
Entered From: pool-72-75-97-90.washdc.east.verizon.net at 72.75.97.90
Message:
Thank you very much for the information, the will of justice will prevail and MAGBA will be the legitimate chief despite the eratic envicious conduct of some so called elders. All manufacture allegations have turned out to be untrue. I am not from DIANG, but such dirty acivities are the causes of numerous upheavals in the country. Here is one piece, HOW CAN A CHIEF BEAT A PERSON AND PLACE HIM/HER IN A 40' CONTAINER? WHERE IS THE PROOF AND WHY WAS NO REPORT MADE TO THE AUTHORITIES.
Subject: EU updates blacklist of banned airlines
From: EU
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Date Posted: 08:47:31 07/24/08 ()
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EU updates blacklist of banned airlines
www.chinaview.cn 2008-07-24 20:20:06
BRUSSELS, July 24 (Xinhua) -- The European Commission on Thursday updated a blacklist of airlines that are banned from flying into European Union (EU) member states due to safety concerns.
With the latest update, the commission removed the operation ban from Iranian air carrier Mahan Airlines.
The new list still imposes a ban on all carriers from Equatorial Guinea, Indonesia, Kyrgyzstan, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Swaziland and the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and Gabon save for Gabon Airlines and Afrijet, whose operations are frozen to the current level.
In addition, eight individual carriers' operations are fully banned in the EU.
The commission also decided to maintain the ban on all operations of Ukraine Cargo Airways, as the airline has not yet been able to successfully implement its corrective actions plan.
Subject: SLFA congress was politicized
From: AWOKO
To: All
Date Posted: 08:36:33 07/24/08 ()
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AWOKO
BY: Kelbin Lewis
SLFA congress was politicized
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The just concluded Sierra Leone Football Association (SLFA) congress was politicized by political affiliation to the ruling All People Congress (APC) party and the Sierra Leone People Party.
An APC party supporter said that the SLFA congress was an APC - SLPP affair.
He opined that since Nahim Kadi is a strong member of the APC and has been for many years, they will not sit down and see him lose the election against a strong SLPP member.
He said the SLFA Congress was a smaller version of the national politics and that why they came very strong to support Nahim Kadi and they are going to help him to run the game of football the this time around.
He mentioned that Nahim Kadi has a passion for the game which they are going to help him to develop for the good of game.
He pointed out that the just concluded SLFA Congress was like the national election which the APC party won and there highest vote came from the Western Area and the Northern Region this was the same place that
Nahim Kadi got his highest vote from to show that those two places are the strong holds of the APC.
He started that they were able to known the strength of the Dr Bangso camp after the first congress was cancelled and they were able to do their assignment very well and work on their opponent’s delegates lists to achieve their goals.
He also made reference to one of the publication by this newspaper quoting former defence minister Joe Bell that he will come back to football if the Dream Team headed by Foday Bangso wins.
He is a very nice fellow but when it comes to APC and SLPP matter we are not going to sit down and see SLPP wining any kind of election over the APC.
When asked why Nahim Kadi won the last SLFA congress four years ago in Makeni under the SLPP government by defeating Dr Bangura who they said is a strong SLPP member he replied by saying SLPP does not know what is politics that was why they gave Nahim Kadi the chance to win but we are not going to allow any SLPP member to win a major competitions under this government.
Subject: The News is Out
From: Dave
To: All
Date Posted: 06:54:01 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
People are slowly forming their own conclusions...
EBK criticises Mugabe: Excerpt from a Bulowayo Daily
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 -
This was his response: "The President of Sierra Leone's unprovoked attack on me was unnecessary. My fight however is not against Africa's only Cocaine President, it is against Western Imperialism.
That said, his recent violent attack on Election Officers is a first on the continent. I feel sorry for the Sierra Leonean people, because I clearly do not think they diserve such inept leadership. Mr Jammeh of Gambia recently told me that he does not think highly of his neighbour's intellect. I think his judgement is absolutely right.
Which self respecting African President will allow a plane load of cocaine in his country? Which self respecting President will openly appoint and protect Drug Traffickers in his Government? Imagine if this incident happened in Zimbabwe; the whole CNN and BBC caboodle would have had nothing to report but this. But you all know no such nonsense will ever happen under my watch.
Please tell the Drug Baron to remove the log in his eyes, before attempting to interfere in a historical war against apartheid... that his ignorant self hardly knows anything about. Let him stick to Cocaine Trafficking". (there was a hugh uproar of laughter and cheering from the crowd)
He then turns to reporters and asks: Yes any more questions, lets move on to more serious people.
Related
Subject: Re: The News is Out
From: political
To: All
Date Posted: 11:22:10 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Any reference to this claim so that we can verify it our selves?
Subject: Re: The News is Out
From: mohamed umarr kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 08:20:57 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: umarr211@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 78.149.198.213
Message:
with reference to Mr Robert Mugabe comment on Mr Ernest Bai Koroma. i think the Sierra Leonean President was right to critized Mr Mugabe. he might be a patriot in the early days of is political career, presently he has been the worst leader in the continent with no good policies to move the country forward rather than engaging in destroying the country prospects of development. let look in the case of the farmers, the conducting of the general election run off compared to president that love the country. Therefore, Mr Robert Mugabe is a useless individual, who is not good for is people's and the continent. The fact that, he has being in power for so long and show no sign of maturity and intellect in doing what he his doing.
Subject: Re: The News is Out
From: mohamed umarr kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 08:19:25 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: umarr211@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 78.149.198.213
Message:
with reference to Mr Robert Mugabe comment on Mr Ernest Bai Koroma. i think the Sierra Leonean President was right to critized Mr Mugabe. he might be a patriot in the early days of is political career, presently he has been the worst leader in the continent with no good policies to move the country forward rather than engaging in destroying the country prospects of development. let look in the case of the farmers, the conducting of the general election run off compared to president that love the country. Therefore, Mr Robert Mugabe is a useless individual, who is not for is people's and the continent. The fact that, he has being in power for so long and show no sign of maturity and intellect in doing what he his doing.
Subject: Re: The News is Out
From: Nar way U belful
To: All
Date Posted: 07:17:31 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.208.81
Message:
Nar way U belful dis morning. The funny thing is that as you guys try to score points over this cacaine fiasco, the president is rolling up his sleeves and working hard to stop narco felons and to improve the lives of common folks. And he 's winning again in 2012. So keep on joking.
Subject: Re: The News is Out
From: Dave
To: All
Date Posted: 07:33:46 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 193.122.208.110
Message:
Don't be so paranoid. Score points?!?
Mugabe couldn't have hardly prepared for this sort of thing before hand as he has his own problems to deal with. But what is interesting is that off course he is angry from the critism and people always tend to lash out but even he has given his own opinion on things and I hate to think what others are thinking and the implications. Do you remember when the international community got fed up with the last govt. happened?
These things are bigger than your stupid clans/parties.
Subject: Re: The News is Out
From: Nar way U belful
To: All
Date Posted: 07:41:57 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Please post the link where Mugabe lashed out at Ernest Koroma or forever hold your tongue.
Subject: Advice to Saloneans
From: Olu Cole
To: All
Date Posted: 06:06:53 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-255-234-6.washdc.east.verizon.net at 71.255.234.6
Message:
Pleasae stop this constant tit-for-tat SLPP vs. APC attacks. The election is over but everyday you attack each other, north vs. south, threatening mayhem. Remember 1991-2002 and stop now before it is too late.
Subject: What leaders do not know about corruption... blast ?
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 04:46:07 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: soriejawara@verizon.com
Entered From: pool-151-200-242-252.res.east.verizon.net at 151.200.242.252
Message:
Many leaders , especially in Africa, are not aware of the effects of corruption on their political powers , they ignore the powerful forces outside in darkness watching the corrupt activities of government officials , high rank civil servants and super dangerous business people.Donors and lending orgnizations are not stupid elements or dangerous ani- government forces against many leaders , but many leaders are not aware that governments depending on donations are deeply in trouble.Donors and lending organizations have net works monitoring the activities of governments and it is easy for them to release information about the corrupt activities of any country listed on donor and aid programs.It is not a witch hunt, but these organizations are protecting their interest and it is their responsibility to manage the available funds efficiently , therefore corrupt governments get in serious troubles and the solutions become "removal". This is done through many channels; through the people or armed forces . Kwame Nkrumah was not corrupt but his ministers and top civil servants were terribly deep into corruption . M'butu was busted by world bank and other agencies. Sierra Leone has two problems leaders must consider and understand; corruption and the natural wealth. If the natural wealth is there why is extreme poverty prevailing? Poor management and waste are considered last. Former president KABBAH told the nation that excuses for poverty are unacceptable and president Koroma is saying the same thing, but why is extreme poverty still lingering around and increasing daily?
Should leaders be told to screen their activities and be vigilant if they don't want to be blasted for corruption?
Subject: Re: What leaders do not know about corruption... blast ?
From: Black Jack
To: All
Date Posted: 15:29:46 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: wramsey32@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 63.164.47.194
Message:
Sorie, To answer your first question: Due to endemic corruption the normal trickle down effects of a viable economy and/or a specific industry, (e.g. diamonds) are eliminated. In other words, all the money and profits are stolen by the upper level "players" which leaves nothing for the lower level "players".
Second Question: that's easy, the corruption continues. Also, those in power utilize their position to gain favorable access to business deals, etc...see answer # one.
Third question: If the leaders were smart they would completely screen their corrupt activities, and deposit all their ill-gotten gains into a Private Swiss Bank account.
Eventually even the most crafty individuals get caught. But then they just flee the country, of bribe their way thru the Judicial process. Where is the Justice in that?
Since 1967 the Regimes of S.L. have ignored one of the most important aspects of operating a Democratic Government; serving the people's best interests. These leaders are too busy enriching themselves to worry about the welfare of the general population. They know just about everything there is to know about corruption!
Subject: Re: What leaders do not know about corruption... blast ?
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 15:46:27 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: soriejawara@verizon.com
Entered From: pool-72-75-97-90.washdc.east.verizon.net at 72.75.97.90
Message:
Jack, your contribution is great, I hope many people will see and understand the great difficulties facing poor countries.Thank you.
Subject: APC ATTACKS SLPP HQ IN FREETOWN
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 04:35:43 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: s100-masq.iptelsl.net at 83.229.112.20
Message:
The APC/Crack/cocaine group has shown the world what they are MADE OF.
Last night, a group of WELL-ARMED APC task-force members attacked OUR HQ. But for the vigilance of our SECURITY, we were able to apprehend some and took them to the APC-CENTRAL POLICE STATION. To our dismay, they freed the CRACK SQUARD and instead arrested two Sixty Yr old men from our PARTY HQ.
As i write, the police with the APC-TASK FORCE have surrounded our HQ and are Threatening to BURN the HQ down....
Here is a Warning to the APC!! The SLPP will FIGHT BACK...we are busy MOBILIZING our MEN and WOMEN. TAKE THAT FROM ME-ALIEU SESAY
Stay TUNED for more INFO....
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP HQ IN FREETOWN
From: kinny Brima
To: All
Date Posted: 11:52:09 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.203.80.27
Message:
Alieu is blood thirsty. He can't wait to go back to the bush, to cook more human beings. UNA NOR MEN DIS CANNIBAL PEKIN YA SO.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP HQ IN FREETOWN
From: MUSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 07:56:01 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: luna.hypair.net at 194.50.180.4
Message:
Woe betides you alieu,as long as you seek misfortune for your people and nation.Most of your postings are based on hatred,cheap propaganda to glorify your reckless slpp party.But the nation is well informed,and they have demonstrated that on two occasions(Presidential and general elections,local elections)You dont think beyond your nose,let alone the interest of your nation.Your interest is only to seek any means possible either by crook,blood etc for your party to regain power.You should lay your rebel,kamajor past to rest or else you face the consequence.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP HQ IN FREETOWN
From: Gorngorli Wan Yeye
To: All
Date Posted: 07:55:22 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-228-11.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.228.11
Message:
Paddy ee look lek say you don drink nuff kadams nar zone two. Way ee nor doo for you, you go nar SLPP hedkwata oosai you go sniff nuff cocaine lek you brer Berewah.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP HQ IN FREETOWN
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 07:22:15 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.208.81
Message:
Alieu please get off that jamba. You are hallucinating.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP HQ IN FREETOWN
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 05:44:57 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: general-kt-195.t-mobile.co.uk at 149.254.192.195
Message:
Brother Alieu, let us becareful of what we say. The greatest revenge to
another is to do to do to your aggressor that which he was not able to
show or do to you. We have laws and we have watchers.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP HQ IN FREETOWN
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 08:38:11 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: s100-masq.iptelsl.net at 83.229.112.20
Message:
Good day sir! I will listen.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP HQ IN FREETOWN
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 08:35:19 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-231-21-144.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.231.21.144
Message:
Your wise counsel here eloquently testifies to what i have just written about your maturity and sophistication.
You will remain my rock and strength not to talk of playing the role model for me in academia via national issues.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP HQ IN FREETOWN
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 09:03:17 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 149.254.192.192
Message:
I am honoured and humbled. I think I have also benefitted greatly from
the association on this forum. May God continue to guide Rev. Kabs-
Kanu for making this avenue a possibility.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP HQ IN FREETOWN
From: Hassan Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 05:33:50 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: KAMSON10@HOTMAIL.COM
Entered From: c-98-204-108-254.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 98.204.108.254
Message:
Alieu Sesay we are ready for you this time. We will chase you in all the corners and when we get hold of you we will not hesitate to pour acid on you. Since you are planning to go back to the bush we are also planning to treat you like bush peolpe.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP HQ IN FREETOWN
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 05:36:10 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: s100-masq.iptelsl.net at 83.229.112.20
Message:
Nobody is going to the BUSH.. we are here in F/Town.. it belongs to all Sierra Leoneans.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP HQ IN FREETOWN
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 07:10:55 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: lpsdsl2.claranet.co.uk at 79.123.36.144
Message:
Alieu, you're a disgrace to sierra leone and humanity as a whole. Making false and dangerous allegations would not benefit you or your party, neither will it benefit your family I'm sure you're a loner who craves for attention. Your like must be eradicated from soceity by any means.
I hope peace loving Sierra Leoneans don't take your rantings seriously.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP HQ IN FREETOWN
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 08:33:49 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: s100-masq.iptelsl.net at 83.229.112.20
Message:
"Alieu, you're a disgrace to sierra leone"..
Atleast, i was not HEAD of THE NPRC SECRETARIAT-KENEMA....You know what you did right?
Subject: WAS EDDY THE A-HOLE IN KENEMA
From: Bulldozer
To: All
Date Posted: 15:03:51 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: bulldozzer@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
Eddy Grant the Burkinabe.. so you are the one. We are going to make this place very uncomfortable for you. Watch this space
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP HQ IN FREETOWN
From: How concern
To: All
Date Posted: 07:58:36 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: static-70-20-197-79.phil.east.verizon.net at 70.20.197.79
Message:
Eddie,
I was hoping by now you would have grown out of such petty rantings..."Your like must be eradicated from soceity by any means."
Subject: Spencer was part of government that caused our backwardnes
From: The Nationalist
To: All
Date Posted: 00:18:30 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
One thing about these shameless SLPP people is their ability to bury their heads in the sand like the ostrich ? Is it today that Dr. Spencer knew that Sierra Leone was backward ? Didn't Dr.Spencer know that Sierra Leone was backward when he served in senior cabinet position under the SLPP government ?If he did, what advice did he give his Boss President Kabbah about moving the country forward ? The SLPP is the most backward and unprogressive government in Sierra Leone. Dr. Spencer lamented the absence of infrastructural development in Sierra Leone comparable to Sierra Leone when he entered Guinea . Can Dr. Spencer point out to us any instructure in Sierra Leone that was built by the SLPP ? Because for those of us who have never left Sierra Leone, we know that all the infrastructure in Sierra Leone were built by the APC. The SLPP built nothing. All our road network, stadium, Bank and insurance buildings, ministerial building, new college hostel at FBC (BEETHOVEN ),Congo Cross Bridge, Kambia Bridge , Bunumbu College, Bo Teachers College etc. were all built by the APC. If Dr.Spencer had been honest, he should have blamed the SLPP for our backwardness.11 YEARS IN POWER RECENTLY AND NO DEVELOPMENT TO SHOW.
Subject: Re: Spencer was part of government that caused our backwardnes
From: mohamed umarr kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 08:45:00 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: umarr211@hotmail.com
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Message:
This is one of greatest concern i have for our country, someone that had served under a regime and now he is critizing the regime he served, is unpatriotic, selfish and a enemy against the state. The fact that, he know's all this even before he joined Sierra Leone politics and do nothing about its and he is making comparism to other African countries on their achievements, inorder for him to gain political appointment for is own selfish will. my people it about time we stop encouraging this individual. because, they are not good for our country and if you allow me to say he is not good for the good existance for our country human race.
Subject: Re: Spencer was part of government that caused our backwardnes
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 07:41:49 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
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Message:
Brother,people such as himself and Dr.A.O.Conteh are really huge embarrassments to themselves,family,friends,and the nation at large.You know some else,it appears to me that the more they open their mouths and sprout inane propositions,they more they appear stupid,misguided,ignorant,morally debased,selfserving,vain glorious,unprincipled,and bereft of sheer human decency.
Take for example the address by Dr Conteh on November 11,2007, that was posted on July 9,2008 in which he attempted to educated his lackeys and boggermen on the constitutional order of governance.In the process,he made outlandish statements that even Momoh a hopeless drunkard and bikini obsessed would never have made no matter what.The guy was part and parcle of the decadence and escapism that grounded the machinery of progress in the nation.He sat there in loud silence and saw Stevens,and Momoh raped the constitution.Now that he is left in the cold,he wants to tell his followers the dark days of their gestapo rulership.Once i took him on,his apologists who are so obsessed with his Cambridge education shamelessly contended that he will masticate me into oblivion if he and i were to ever have a debate.This is the same with this classless Spencer.He knew Kabbah and others were not to anything good but stuck with them until he too had plundered the resources of the nation and now telling us that irresponsible claptrap.
The guy is simply a fraud and cheat that was totally unfit for political office.I wish he just take a quick dash in front of the on coming traffice on the 495 belt way and just passes into oblivion.The more i hear from this discredited fellows,the more i feel like throwing up.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Re: Spencer was part of government that caused our backwardnes
From: pekin
To: All
Date Posted: 12:05:01 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Kutubu needs to stay on course and leave Abdulai Conteh alone. This man is not your equal in any aspect of life. Your kaka belleh self never run anything that we know of, nobody knows you unless the few of us on this forum and we are getting tired of your old school hate. Don't make Abdulai Conteh's supporters take your wife from you, if only you have one, or you gal pekin.
Subject: Re: Spencer was part of government that caused our backwardnes
From: Curious
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Date Posted: 02:47:46 07/24/08 ()
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I read Julius Spencer's letter, and I may be an ignorant person, because I really could not see any serious reason, why is he ashamed to be a Sierra Leonean???Is it simply because Guinea has better roads, or better infrastructure or Guinea has a Belgian Consulate???Please help me is establishing a serious reason, and if convinced I will consider joining him, in his Club of Ashamed Sierra Leoneans.
Subject: Re: Spencer was part of government that caused our backwardnes
From: Anthony Sisay
To: All
Date Posted: 00:42:30 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
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Message:
The problem with Sierra Leone is because it is loaded with creatures like you.
Subject: Re: Spencer was part of government that caused our backwardnes
From: Anthony Sisay
To: All
Date Posted: 00:39:14 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
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Message:
Senseless human beings like you don't see the truth in what a reasonable and patriotic Sierra Leonean is writing. Up till now there are pit latrines all over the country, is that something that you are proud of?
Subject: Re: Spencer was part of government that caused our backwar
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 03:32:58 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: general-kt-195.t-mobile.co.uk at 149.254.192.195
Message:
Mr. Sisay, where is the connection here? What you are addressing or
commenting on points the finger to all that participated in running our
affairs since independence - though you did not specifically mention a
timeline. What Nationalist addressed is subjective - one party - and
how Dr. Spencer was part of a government that did not uplift us from
what was inherited. I believe that both parties in some way did some
work to move us forward. However, the deteriorating effect was
greater than what good was actual done.
We, as citizens, are part of the problem. The individualism in our
society is so misplaced that we forget that which gives us the everyday
energy to be what we want to be and are. You mentioned about pit
latrines - sure it is disturbing! I believe the local authorities have a big
say in such matters. This local authorities are chaired by an ordinary
man and his team of local councilors. is it not in their powers to put
forth a motion to eradicate pit latrines and help beat a health problem?
I believe they can do it if they only believe that they are serving their
communities. Governments do have a long hand and we are all part of
the joints that make up the long arm. Let us have something we stand
for and help influence decisions by lobbying the end of the long arm to
give ourselves a healthy society.
We cannot become enlightened by imagining figures of light but by
making the darkness conscious. Let us hope for the good of us all!
Subject: Re: Spencer was part of government that caused our backwar
From: Anthony Sisay
To: All
Date Posted: 08:15:04 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
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Message:
Thanks for your contribution. Your points are well taken.
Subject: Re: Spencer was part of government that caused our backwar
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 08:16:30 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Thank you too, brother!
Subject: Re: Spencer - Clannish Politics is Hindering Development
From: Retired Banker
To: All
Date Posted: 04:57:21 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
My dear Chez, your have a valid point that:
"We, as citizens, are part of the problem. The individualism in our society is so misplaced that we forget that which gives us the everyday
energy to be what we want to be and are."
But the extremely clannish, North/South, nature of Sierra Leonean politics is an even greater problem. The Oxford AL Dictionary defines clannish as: "members of a group associating closely with each other and showing little interest in other people". This tendency is entrenched by allegiance to different 'secret' societies and chieftancies, rather than state (national) institutions.
Nigeria has the same problem - hence the failure of that great nation to fulfil its potential despite having stupendous wealth and resources.
Guinea, Ghana and Senegal are lucky to have politics rooted in the PAN-AFRICANISM of Sekou Toure, Kwame Nkrumah and Leopold Senghor. Likewise, Zambia and Tanzania had Kenneth Kaunda and Julius Nyerere's mix of SOCIALISM and UJAMAA. Patrice Lumumba's efforts in the Congo were cruelly aborted (look at the ensuing mess).
During Pa Kabbah's 2nd term 'Wuteteh' campaign, one of our drivers (a Southerner) did not turn up for work in Freetown and was spotted instead at a SLPP rally. When queried the next day, he answered frankly: "Pa, de Palm Tree nar de society way we born insie, and nar day we go die". I have heard similar blind statements of support for the APC by Northerners.
I challenge all those who describe themselves as 'die-hard' APC or SLPP to tell exactly what it is that endears them to these parties. What is the vision or political philosophy? How does this differ from the other party that they hate so much?
Please tell us and prove me wrong.
Subject: Re: Spencer - Clannish Politics is Hindering Development
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 05:23:15 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
You wrote:
I challenge all those who describe themselves as 'die-hard' APC or SLPP
to tell exactly what it is that endears them to these parties
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Thank you for understanding my point and I have no qualms in
understanding and agreeing to yours. You see, the atmosphere is not
one of 'die-hard' APC or SLPP, there is no such thing in our society. It
is a false conscious enigma. What we have amongst us is greed and
selfishness - people only lean onto parties that they believe they have
the strongest advantage of making something - there is no theoretical
or pragmatic ideology. All is absent in their thoughts. What I have
seen is just sheer greed.
I have always put my country above party politics. I am a member of
the SLPP but would not allow myself to be blinded by party political
tomfoolery from the real issues that concerns our nationstate. 80% of
my lineage are APC and have come to understand my belief in one
Sierra Leone. Aside the political ideology of the SLPP, there is a
stronger reason why belonging to SLPP will balance the divide I see in
our national politics. This region for this party and that region for this
party makes me see no hope in making Sierra Leone a one-nation that
will look at its diverse cultures and utilise those customs and traditions
celebrate the unity of the whole. Our brothers and sisters are so
engrossed in looking for avenues of how to make money for
themselves that they forget that we are all an extension of each other.
Any wrong to one of us will someday come to your doorstep - even
after you are dead, your children may have to carry the brunch/stigma
of shame you left when you had the opportunity of leaving a legacy of
honourability and nobility ascribed to you.
This north and south divide is a creation of all of us. When I am
amongst my people I do not see myself as a temne first but as a Sierra
Leonean first; then SLPP and then Temne. I am very proud to be a
temne and I pray all to be proud of their tribal origin. To keep the
whole intact the few, with a proactive mind, will have to help educate
the many, with delusional minds that we cannot be a one-nation.
Subject: Re: Spencer - Clannish Politics is Hindering Development
From: zakmal
To: All
Date Posted: 07:05:23 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: columbuw@gmail.com
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Message:
Chez,once again you've demonstrated one of the reasons why I follow your writings in forum with great interest. You wrote "I have always put my country above politics". Some present day partisans could care less aboout their country as long as they have access to powerful people.
Subject: Re: Spencer - Clannish Politics is Hindering Development
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 07:35:11 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Thank you Zakmal! If we adopt such attitude that makes a big
difference in out state of affairs, our country will be a better nation.
Zakmal, I completed my initial postgrad studies 12 twelve years ago
and my intention was to serve my country. This did not happen
because I refused to behave as if I was going to beg for a job. It
brought temporal sufferings and what some will say, a waste of
intelligence. I coped and utilised that which i learnt to create a job for
myself in my newfound land's enterprise culture. Things went to a
height and they overnight disappeared. I went back to my drawing
board and saw where I went wrong and started the process again -
this time every hurdle was easy to climb as I was already there. The
young today should learn to understand that the people in power
today were once young like them. Some worked very hard to be there
others through treacherous means attained their current status. Their's
is like the biblical parable wherein the sower planted his seeds among
thorns that got clustered and choked as they grew. nothing good will
come out of treachery and greed - only a temporal phase that blights
your whole future and more often that of your offspring.
I have never envied a brother who gets an appointment through some
means - my advise to them is to try to repair whatever damage you
may have done on your way up there for a great fall not knowing where
thou landeth is indeed nasty. I have fallen many times and I so love it
that every fall becomes a new and thrilling adventure.
We as brothers and sisters should learn to value the individual gifts
God gave us and learn to complement and value each other's.
Stay Blessed my brother the only powerful are those who serve their
people with due diligence. See how Jesus was - he wash the feet of his
disciples - how many of us can do that today?
Subject: Re: Spencer - Clannish Politics is Hindering Development
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 07:20:17 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
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Message:
Believe me sir,this man is one of the distinguished writers on this forum.Never has any one agonize out his intellect ,ability and interpersonal sensitivity.
He is rapid in judgment,methodical,objective,fair,and always gravitate to sensible balance in the way he proffers his views on national issues.He has never allowed parochial politics to blind his vision.Everything he has written so far since i came on this forum has been consistently good to excellent.
He never passes himself as the be all and end all in academia as some would want us to believe with undue obfuscations and convoluted grandstanding that borders on self centeredness.His command of the Queen's linga franca is superb.I have gained lots from his writings and i always make sure i read all of them.I only hope he will continue to give people like me his academic expertise.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Re: Spencer - Clannish Politics is Hindering Development
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 07:56:22 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
You've made me have a painful blush; the flattery, I am afraid is too
painful to bear, if only my dad was alive, he would have called you to
thank you - he wanted the best for us but alas the greed and
selfishness of the likes of Abdulai Opeless Conteh change the course
of his destiny to see his children grow to look after him and teach him
things that at a very old age the father is no longer capable of
absorbing unless he has his issues around.
Thanks and I would not let this get onto my head. I remain to be
hungry for learning for that is the wheel of modern existence. I must
say I have learnt a lot from you as well. We live to learn. Thank you sir
and my little hat goes up for you.
I pray that we should not let anger against the likes of Abdulai Opeless
Conteh cloud our minds with uncertainties - Sierra Leone will thrive
progressively. We will have proactive minds that will see Sierra Leone
tomorrow from today's standpoint. Good leaders will come - this hope
is preserved in me as in a fortress.
Subject: Re: Spencer - Clannish Politics is Hindering Development
From: zakmal
To: All
Date Posted: 07:40:03 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
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Message:
MKK I think you have spoken for a lot us in this forum,except those who are specialized in PHD .(Pull him down)
Subject: Re: Spencer was part of government that caused our backwardnes
From: IB AFRC
To: All
Date Posted: 00:32:00 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Julius Spencer is so bad, but IB kargbo who served as an MP and minister in the Momoh and Steven's gov't, served as a minister in the AFRC regime and is now a minister in your APC gov't is sooooooooooooooooo good. Oh yes indeed.
Subject: Re: Spencer was part of government that caused our backwardnes
From: zakmal
To: All
Date Posted: 07:58:28 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
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Message:
Dr Spencer has a right to be ashamed of anything he so wishes as his individual right. I don't we should be pouncing on him when exercises such right,however,it is the hypocrisy that bothers me to no end. This is a man who served under a president who spent most of his adulthood in the western world but yet he ran a country with little or no electricity for his entire tenure, where pipe borne water was a luxury,our airport is a disgrace etc. I can on with the list of things that nothing was done about. He should have resigned in protest and that would have been courageous. Dr Spencer cannot attest that this is the first time he is leaving the shores of sierra leone and be embarassed. How about thise times when he was minister ?Did he come back from a trip abroad and scream or at least convince the tone deaf president of how backward our country was? We need answers to these question quickly or your credibility would continue t erode.
Subject: I am ashamed to be a sierra leonean - Dr. Spencer
From: political
To: All
Date Posted: 23:49:06 07/23/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
First of I would like to applaud Dr. Spencer for his courage to say the truth about the problems affecting our country today. For some of us who have been in other African countries know that we are really backward. I cannot give instances because the Dr. has outlined few of them.
However, I am amazed that Dr. Spencer did not use his idea to move the country forward when he had the chance as a minister. This in itself has reduced his truthfulness and create suspicious snippet his surprise. At the same time, I will be very careful to blame the Dr. squarely because I did not know his situation when he was information minister. My question is did the Dr. not know that the country was going backward when he was a minister until this time? Did Dr. Spencer travelled out side sierra leone when he was a minister?
Subject: Re: I am ashamed to be a sierra leonean - Dr. Spencer
From: Tyrone
To: All
Date Posted: 00:04:59 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Dr Spencer you are right, but you were one of them. Why complaining now? You should not be ashamed of Sierra Leone; you should be ashamed of yourself.
Subject: Re: I am ashamed to be a sierra leonean - Dr. Spencer
From: Reading and Comprehension
To: All
Date Posted: 00:08:31 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I am sure many people will be ready to say the war we went through in Sierra Leone is responsible for our backwardness. Well, perhaps there is some truth in that, but it is only a small part of the truth. We started moving backwards in the 1980s and although we seem to have stopped the backwards movement, there hasn't been much forward movement, so we are yet to catch up with the 21st century.
I have my own ideas about what needs to be done to accelerate the forward movement, but it seems as if those who have been in charge over the past ten years have lacked either the vision, the political will or the managerial skills needed to drive the process. President Kabbah's government, in a way, stopped the backwards movement, but in 10 years was not able to generate enough forward movement. President Koroma is now in charge and we wait to see how much forward movement he will be able to generate.
Subject: Re: I am ashamed to be a sierra leonean - Dr. Spencer
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 08:13:22 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
This is the most sensible post i have read in cocorioko in a while..
This post sums our recent history to the DOT...
Cheers my brother/sister..
Subject: Re: I am ashamed to be a sierra leonean - Dr. Spencer(SLPP)
From: bobsonmans
To: All
Date Posted: 16:02:18 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: bobsonmans69@btinternet.com
Entered From: 5ac0b0c6.bb.sky.com at 90.192.176.198
Message:
Here we go again. Most Sierra Leoneans are only good in stating the litany of problems afflicting the country. Dr Spencer has been there as an SLPP minister but couldn't influence any forward movement in the country's development.It is a case of the doctor who can diagnose an ailment but can't give a correct prescr1ption. As a sierra leonean whose parents are from the north but educated in the south, attended FBC where you were a lecturer and have had the opportunity to live in the diaspora, i think we have few nationalists as a nation. There is too much tribalism. APC and SLPP are too tribal-based. Only god knows where the continued existence of these two parties will lead us. We need a true nationalist who has some pride.
Subject: Lawyer Alieu Iscandari caught in a "comatose state in gowns"
From: Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas
To: All
Date Posted: 22:13:18 07/23/08 ()
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Message:
Re: M. Alieu Iscandari, Esq. redefines brutality and savagery!
Posted by M. Alieu Iscandari Esq. on July 23, 2008 at 10:54:52:
In Reply to: M. Alieu Iscandari, Esq. redefines brutality and savagery! posted by Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas on July 23, 2008 at 10:37:06:
"...It wasnt me. It was what the witness said. I didnt tell him to say it. He spoke the truth about what happened. The Kamajors were cannibals and that is what the evidence points to." (LAWYER Alieu Iscandari)
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Re: M. Alieu Iscandari, Esq. redefines brutality and
Posted by Paul sesay on July 23, 2008 at 11:06:55:
In Reply to: Re: M. Alieu Iscandari, Esq. redefines brutality and savagery! posted by M. Alieu Iscandari Esq. on July 23, 2008 at 10:54:52:
" I didnt tell him to say it" Hmm...Was that why you were fired? Tampering with the WITNESS?"(Paul Sesay)
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Re: M. Alieu Iscandari, Esq. redefines brutality and savagery!
Posted by Kadi Kamara on July 23, 2008 at 11:28:35:
In Reply to: Re: M. Alieu Iscandari, Esq. redefines brutality and savagery! posted by Paul sesay on July 23, 2008 at 11:06:55:
"...And after he was fired, he came back to the US and stole Kadiatu Kamara's money. Ar guess say nar way one kamajo borbor eat ee mammi ee pussy make ee call dem all canibal." (Kadi Kamara)
Subject: Re: Lawyer Alieu Iscandari caught in a "comatose state in gowns"
From: Akani Joe
To: All
Date Posted: 04:17:37 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Now I am starting to believe people when they say that you have lost your marbles
Subject: Re: Lawyer Alieu Iscandari caught in a "comatose state in gowns"
From: BONGOWASS
To: All
Date Posted: 01:27:23 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Curtis, how can you be ever considered a serious contributor to this forum with all these childish crap?
Subject: Re: Lawyer Alieu Iscandari caught in a "comatose state in gowns"
From: Cynthia Brown
To: All
Date Posted: 01:56:23 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: cbanana@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 212.41.142.242
Message:
Please let it be known that Lawyer Iscandari was not fired because he interfered with a witness. He was not assigned to the CDF case. He was fired because his academic battery could not provide the required voltage that was needed as a Trial Attorney at the SCSL. He spent his last six months of his contract at the front door of Mr. Crane the Prosecutor as an Orderly. So he is not in authority to say anything on the CDF case. Joseph Kamara and Mohamed Bangura were the only two Sierra Leonean Lawyers assigned to that case.that case.
Subject: Re: Lawyer Alieu Iscandari caught in a "comatose state in gowns"
From: Not fit for Job
To: All
Date Posted: 12:55:27 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: musukaloko@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.205.177.234
Message:
Why was he fired? Why did he beg ... I mean on the knees stuff... even to the point of getting a significant pay cut? Did he bribe witnesses as well?
Its good this loser was fired.
Subject: Re: Lawyer Alieu Iscandari caught in a "comatose state in gowns"
From: court clerk
To: All
Date Posted: 04:22:08 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
is refusing to resign a contract the same as being fired? I heard that he did not want to resign his contract.
Subject: Re: Lawyer Alieu Iscandari caught in a "comatose state in gowns"
From: Battery Acid in your face
To: All
Date Posted: 04:15:20 07/24/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Please you were not there, I was. He was one of the best that we ever had at the court in terms of sheer lawyering. You better ask the defense counsel. I have met him, watched him in action as a reporter for a human rights outfit. It is true that he did nit work on the CDF case and had nothing to do with it. Any comments he makes on the CDF case reflect his personal comments on that issue and that you must give him because he speaks the truth.
Do you know what he did in the last six months of his stay at the court? I bet you didnt and I do. Its about time you haters get an education. By the way is your name Maarda mustafa?
Subject: What is Anti -corruption in Sierra Leone?
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 19:38:09 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: sotie_jawara@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-151-200-245-12.res.east.verizon.net at 151.200.245.12
Message:
ANTI -CORRUPTION in Sierra Leone is just a fancy word for lower grade students to increase spelling knowledge and laugh. We know there is not a government or any system clean of corruption, but drastic efforts are excercised to reduce the percentages. President Koroma is talking about zero tolerance which is complete corruption free state.I am not sure he is fully prepared for anything or it is just to pacify babies crying for comforters. Yes, independent anti corruption body but what kinds of corruptions to eradicate, theft ,administrative etc or all types . Ha ,its good to have anti -corruption, but can corrupt leaders eradicate corruption? In 2002 , president Kabbah and his party bragged about integrity, honesty,accountability and a so called transparency ,but what happened down the road to hell. Let former president KABBAH take the defence stand and tell the nation , his administration accomplished a generally accepted corruption tolerant level.President Koroma 'inherited' a nation corrupted and polluted with all "sorts" of corruptions , he is already sitting on a corrupt chair nursing corruption. What corruptions will be brought to zero tolerant level by the extablished ANI-CORRUPTION BODY...please say it right. Investigate adminitrative corruption etc at all levels? WAH !!!
Subject: Re: What is Anti -corruption in Sierra Leone?
From: BANGSO
To: All
Date Posted: 23:23:23 07/23/08 ()
Email Address:
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Two words John Ben and Karimu are scared of hearing knocking at their door. You are right in that no system is incorruptable but if these two guys mentioned above were charged it would be a good start.but alas I alread know what you are going to come back at me with.
Subject: Re: What is Anti -corruption in Sierra Leone?
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
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Date Posted: 22:19:54 07/23/08 ()
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Believe me Mr.Jawara that is what i want to know in the sort of culture that has eaten away at the veneer of personal moral integrity in the society.
Subject: Re: What is Anti-corruption in Sierra Leone?
From: Alee Badara Calokoh
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Date Posted: 02:42:07 07/24/08 ()
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Anti-corruption in the Sierra Leonean, even in the worldwide, context is an effort to remove a pecuniary interest where it doesn't belong in the course of providing Civill Service duties by a paid agent of the government charged to carry out such duties. An unsolicited tip or dash after efficient, humble service, not unlike that of a waiter/waitress in a restaurant, a bellman in a hotel for carrying one's luggage,or a cabdriver's courteous and friendly ride, is not part of corruption, but a show of one's appreciation for good serviuce. The recepient must not see it as an entitlement and the customer should not be scolded for not being in a position to give it. It is corruption, however,if a civil servant demands money, directly or indirectly,for services that are otherwise available free-of-charge. Such a practice retards the socio-economic engine of state. It slows down, even discourages,enterpreneural drive that might create jobs for many of the country's chronically unemployed. Therefore the government must move against such practices. Another type of corruption the government has a right to move against is contract fraud. This is a case in which a person wins a contract with the government by hook or by crook and either does a shoddy job or, worse, does't do the job at all and then shares the loot with a few of his accomplices in the government and no one is held accountable for the sham. And, as if this were not bad enough,these stolen monies end up in American or European banks, which, in turn, lend them to their consumers in the form of credit cards and small business loans which serve as fuel to their engine of growth. Such monies will return to sierra Leone, if ever, only in the form of oppessively high interest loans. And so we get fried in our own oil. This is my take on anti-corruption in Sierra Leone. Please ignore the earlier unedited version.
Alee Badara Calokoh, Lanham, Maryland, USA
Subject: Re: What is Anti-corruption in Sierra Leone?
From: Alee Badara Calokoh
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Date Posted: 02:29:29 07/24/08 ()
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Anti-corruption in the Sierra Leonean, even in the worldwide, context is an effort to remove a pecuniary interest where it doesn't belong in the course of providing Civill Service duties by a paid agent of the governmentcharged to carry out such duties. An unsolicited tip or dash after efficient, humble service service not unlike that of a waiter/waitress in arestaurant, a bellman in a hotel for carrying one's luggage,or a cabdriver's courteous and friendly ride is not part of corruption but a show of one's appreciation for good serviuce. The recepient must not see it as an entitlement and should the customer be scolded for not being in a position to give it. It is corruption, however,if a civil servant demands money, directly or indirectly,for services that are otherwise available free-of-charge.Such a practice retards the socio-economic engine of state. It slows down, even discourages,enterpreneural drive that might create jobs for many of the country's chronically unemployed. Therefore the government must move against such practices. Another type of corruption the government has a right to move against is contract fraud. This is a case in which a person wins a contract with the government by hook or by crook and either does a shoddy job or, worse, does't do the job at all and shares the loot with a few of his accomplices in the government and no one is held accountable for the sham. And, as if this were not bad enough,these stolen monies end up in American or European banks which in turn lend it to their consumers in the form of credit cards and small business loans which serve as fuel to their engine of growth and will return to sierra Leone, if ever, only ion the form of oppessively high interest loans. This is my take on anti-corruption in Sierra Leone.
Alee Badara Calokoh, Lanham, Maryland, USA
Subject: Re: What is Anti -corruption in Sierra Leone?
From: Larry
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Date Posted: 22:04:31 07/23/08 ()
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The business of anti-corrpution begins at the top, with the top individuals, working on behalf of the top institution-the government itself, and then with the divisions of government, and the various institutions, including the parastalals, such as the Power Authority, or the University.
Regardless of political party affiliation or preference, let us stipulate here that all of the political parties are sincere and committed in their professed love of the country, so therefore, "corruption" becomes a crime of the individual, and groups of individuals are conspiracies of persons pursuing the business of "organized crime". In any event, these are not what we speak of when we refer to the government, or the political parties: These involvements are beneath the dignity of the state, and the legitimate political parties. It is no longer, in 2008, sufficient, or useful, to speak of a corrupt SLPP, or a corrupt APC-these broadbrush assertions, these collective charachter assassinations do not serve the best interests of Sierra Leone.
Let's turn, instead, to the focus on the task of identifying the individuals who, somehow, do not subscribe to the slogan, emblazoned on the billboard, and seen by travelers entering Sierra Leone by the road coming in from Guinea: "Corruption Hinders Development!" This needs to be rendered a crime where the individual involved needs to be held personally responsible. Instead of housing such an individual in the prison, why not put him or her to work on public service tasks, such as cleaning the public toilets for an extended period of time, under supervision, and without pay? (He or she can sleep in the jail at night.)
The politics of Sierra Leone and the United States are so similar that it's insulting our intelligence-it's probably the same in other countries and I'm (we aren't) paying attention....everyone's looking backward. Is this the way to foment progress, by looking through the rear-view mirror? Here we are today. Sierra Leone is currently challenged by the corrupting pressure of cocaine cartels in South America using the country as a trans-shipment point between there and Europe. This is a problem shared by Liberia. What steps are the activists on this forum taking to bring the light of public attention to this issue, and conveying to the government the urgency of the situation? Left unaddressed, this will become as big a horror-show as the rebel war was, in terms of lives lost. The GOSL needs, urgently, to collaborate with the Government of Liberia to address this threat to the mutual soverignties of these nations.
I don't post here very often, and when I do, it's more than likely something some may find inflammatory-for this let me apologize- I wish we could share a nice time together, and in the future, perhaps we will...; some of you know me. As my father used to say, " Mark my words."
Sincerely, with brotherly love,
Larry
Subject: Re: What is Anti -corruption in Sierra Leone?
From: SORIE Jawara
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Date Posted: 03:16:23 07/24/08 ()
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Thank you Larry and and others , interesting topic and good mental excercise.
Subject: Anti-Corruption Act Amended = Heep, Heep, Hurray!
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:32:04 07/23/08 ()
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Dear Forumites:
I am delighted that the Anti-Corruption Act has been amended to allow the Anti-Corruption Commission to conduct its own independent prosecution of cases it investigated instead of leaving such prosecutions entirely in the exclusive discretion of the attorney-general.
When I raised this issue and supported the position advocated by Hon Asafu Kabba in parliament several years ago in Cocorioko and in the SL print media (see article below), I received only criticisms and ostracization from the then Kabbah Administration.
Now, I am proud to say that both the APC and the SLPP MPs supported and enacted the long overdue amendment. Even so, this amendment is not enough because corruption in SL is too extensive and too deep for corruption prosecutions to be in only one set of hands.
The ideal law should not grant the right of exclusive prosecution to any one entity only - be it the A-G's office or the Anti-Corruption Commission. Both the attorney-general and the Anti-Corruption Commission should have been granted non-exclusive concurrent prosecutorial authority. So also should the public, via private legal action, be granted the legal right to bring prosecutions, especially by victims of corruption that no officials want to help or prosecute.
At anyrate, the present amendment is a move in the right direction for which all decent citizens should be grateful. - JL
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WANTED: AN INDEPENDENT ANTI-CORRUPTION COMMISSION
By
JOHN LEIGH
I write to salute a courageous MP, the Honorable Haja Afsatu Kabba, for the insight she showed in discussing a key national problem in her recent speech in Parliament while debating the government’s program set forth in the President Address. Haja Kabba spoke on a number of problems facing our country and highlighted the centrality of the role of rampant corruption in keeping Sierra Leoneans down and behind the rest of the world.
The Haja wants an Independent Anti-Corruption Commission. Any sensible government, committed to advancing the public interest, will not ignore her reasonable proposal.
Haja Kabba pointed out in plain, straightforward language what every intelligent Sierra Leonean, members of the local diplomatic corps, the NGO community and officials of donor countries already know quite well. Namely, the Anti-Corruption Commission as currently authorized is woefully ineffective in the face of escalating corruption.
Hon. Haja Kabba then went on to properly set forth the correct reason why our Anti-Corruption Commission has so far failed, and will continue to fail in its fundamental duty. Namely, the Attorney General’s office must first authorize the prosecution of each and every corruption case, before the commission can take its responsibilities to their logical conclusions by prosecuting alleged wrongdoers whose cases the Anti-Corruption Commission already investigated and deemed prosecutable.
THE DEFECTIVE LEGISLATION MAY HAVE BEEN DELIBERATE
In other words, the Act of Parliament that gave birth to the Anti-Corruption Commission is deeply flawed for it deliberately subjugated the Commission to suffocating political control. This control, some might convincingly argue, may have been willfully conceived and abusively administered as evidenced by the commission’s ineffectiveness that the Hon. Haja pointed out during her speech in Parliament.
Some of us have read news reports about a former attorney general boasting about how wide his discretion is under the law and that he is free to exercise such authority without accountability to the people. It is this political control via the political office of the Attorney General that appears to have effectively emasculated the Anti-Corruption Commission’s work, rather than the ineptness of the commission’s staff.
CORRUPTION IS NOW SAID TO BE RAMPANT
Honorable Haja Kabbah fully understands this distinction and the immediate consequences upon our body politic. She knows, as we do, that despite the excellent work of the commission’s staff, corruption has expanded substantially and has become rampant. So rampant, some would argue, that corruption in Sierra Leone has probably expanded exponentially when compared to the corruption levels existing during the notorious pre-war years. Thus, even after widespread national and international clamor to address the debilitating problem of corruption in our land, the needed political will to effectively address the problem at all levels of society, is yet to emerge.
Now, Honorable Haja Kabba has again properly raised the matter and would very much like that the correct action be taken. Haja Kabba has now boldly recommended to Parliament that the Anti-Corruption Commission should be empowered anew, presumably by an Act of Parliament, to directly prosecute its own investigated cases of corruption rather than continue to go nowhere except through the Attorney general’s office and wait there for a decision to prosecute – an eventuality that may never happen.
The Haja deserves the support of the public and the government on this important matter. I respectfully urge our government to pay heed to Haja Kabba’s very reasonable request because success in containing corruption will help uplift the lives of our people and insure that peace and social progress permanently reign supreme in our land.
As an important first step in demonstrating its commitment to the democratic principles of transparency and accountability on this very hot issue, why doesn’t the government release to the public those cases already investigated and certified as prosecutable by the commission but rejected for prosecution by the Attorney General, together with the Attorney General’s reasoning for its non-prosecution decision in each relevant case?
WITHOUT REFORMS DAILY HARDSHIPS WILL PERSIST
The easy but unacceptable alternative is for the government to deliberately ignore
Honorable Haja’s concerns and do nothing about increasing the effectiveness of the Anti-Corruption Commission. If the authorities decline, fail or refuse to take the appropriate corrective action, the current rampant corruption will continue to fester; while the Attorney General’s office will go on serving as a mortuary for the investigations already concluded by the Anti-Corruption Commission.
Hon. Haja Kabba and other thoughtful Sierra Leoneans at home and abroad, are not the only people demanding that the authorities stop corrupt practices. The British Government has already dispatched to Freetown two or three of its cabinet ministers and at least one top civil servant during the last two years alone to encourage our country’s leadership to do the right thing and genuinely address our massive corruption problem.
Likewise, in its most recent report about corruption worldwide, Transparency International in Berlin gave our country very low marks on the issue of corrupt practices. The International Crisis Group in Brussels, Belgium and Human Rights Watch in New York, two respected international NGOs with deep interest in, and credible work internationally on behalf of Sierra Leone, have also reported adversely on the catastrophic state of corruption in Sierra Leone and the obvious lack of progress in containing the problem. The American Embassy in Freetown issued a statement in recent weeks expressing its concerns about rampant corruption in Sierra Leone and said it intends to deny issuing visas to the United States to public officials it deems corrupt.
CORRUPTION IS THE MAIN REASON BEHIND DAILY HARDSHIPS
Rampant corruption is at the heart of the multiple miseries endured daily by the masses in Sierra Leone. If the problem is not genuinely addressed, the people of Sierra Leone will continue to labor under the yoke of extreme hardship because corruption is one of the major reasons why the price level for the everyday necessities of life such as rice, palm oil, petrol, rent, etc. is so high; why salaries are so low; why good-paying jobs are so scarce and why the supply of electricity for the masses is so tiny.
Rampant corruption is behind the degradation in the exchange value of the Leone and behind the high prices of commodities for where rampant corruption is chronic, banks and financial houses overseas heavily discount the external value of that nation’s currency. This renders imports more expensive. Rampant corruption discourages foreign investments because international businesses know that where there is rampant corruption, the country cannot be expected to be a stable place where property can be safely protected or where executives can manage their businesses without contending with extortion demands and/or bribe-taking by some in authority. Lack of foreign investments translates into job scarcity and low or non-existent salaries and wages.
Rampant corruption is behind the spread of HIV/AIDS. For when prices of daily necessities are high and wages low or non-existent, some people are forced to engage in prostitution or become promiscuous just so they can eat and pay for a roof over their heads; or take care of their families. As is well known, prostitution and promiscuity spread many terrible diseases, some of which may still be incurable.
Rampant corruption, coupled with our government’s ineffectual anti-corruption mechanism, is behind Sierra Leone’s poverty. It is a poverty that is so deep, so dense and so widespread that our country has remained in the last place on the UN Human Development Index for the past seven years.
Accordingly, Sierra Leone is the least safe place on earth for mothers during childbirth. We have one of the highest infant mortality rates in the world; lowest life expectancies, lowest per capita income; an abundance of diseases, high rates of illiteracy, poorly equipped schools, poorly paid teachers, poorly equipped and poorly funded hospitals, inadequate clean drinking water, inadequate food production, primitive agricultural tools, dangerous roads, substandard and inadequate housing, etc. Thus, Haja Kabba is right to demand that the Anti-Corruption Commission must be properly empowered to do its job.
AN INDEPENDENT JUDGE IS APPRECIATED BUT NOT ENOUGH
The government may claim that the Anti-Corruption Commission is powerful enough because it has already appointed an independent judge to try corruption cases. But what use is an independent judge if the most egregious corruption cases never get to see the light of day at all because of politics? What is urgently needed now is, thus, not only an independent judge but so also is an Independent Commission with its own Independent Prosecutor in order to render effective the fight against the impunity of corruption. Without an independent prosecutor, the commission cannot be independent and without an independent commission rampant corruption will continue to flourish in a land of extreme hardships.
AN INDEPENDENT PROSECUTOR IS THE ANSWER
Sierra Leone already has an independent Special Court to independently investigate, independently prosecute and independently judge those deemed most responsible for war crimes and crimes against humanity in an attempt to address the problem of impunity in the perpetration of violence against civilians.
If the government has already agreed to let the Special Court operate with complete independence in Sierra Leone, we are requesting that the same authorities ask the same or similar donor nations to likewise set-up a truly Independent Anti-Corruption Commission to deal with the rampant corruption problem in Sierra Leone once and for all. I am not in any way minimizing the horrors of the rebel war but the requested Independent Anti-Corruption Commission is more likely to benefit far more Sierra Leoneans currently and into the long run than the Special Court ever will.
Nothing is more criminal and more inhumane in today’s Sierra Leone than for those deemed most responsible for corruption – e.g. people with public aliases such as Mr. Money Man, Gabteh Karkah, Money Nyapu Nyapu - to keep on punishing the suffering citizens of Sierra Leone with the impunity of their rampant corruption while the authorities appear satisfied with ‘the toothless bulldog’ Anti-Corruption Commission bestowed with phony powers.
CORRUPTION CAUSED AND PROLONGED THE CIVIL WAR
Let it be remembered that our country’s reputation for rampant corruption was part of the reason why the war lasted so long and why the suffering was so barbaric. When I was Ambassador in Washington, I discovered that Western nations refused at first to help conclusively defeat the rebels because the rebels initially succeeded in exploiting our country longstanding reputation for rampant corruption. Even though the rebels had corrupted their own insurgency, sold out to Charles Taylor and embarked on a systematic program of mayhem in order to obtain and export more diamonds, Western nations insisted on the RUF’s participation in government.
The rebels had successfully argued for years that they were fighting to end corruption and bring genuine democracy to Sierra Leone and many people in authority in democratic countries believed them because of our pre-war history of corruption and fake democracy. It took a lot of hard and skillful work, along with the documentation of rebel atrocities, illicit diamond exports from Liberia and Burkina Faso and RUF/AFRC sabotage of the Lome Agreement before the United States Congress compelled the Clinton Administration to support a UN Chapter 7 mandate. Today, we are back to Square One with our chronic corruption cancer. Yet we are still ‘waging’ a phony war against it, even as rampant as corruption has become.
CONCLUSION
To those currently in authority, I say ‘please take appropriate action forthwith so that history never repeats itself in Sierra Leone because you failed to heed the sensible advice of the Honorable Haja Afsatu Kabba, MP. Please create a genuinely independent Anti-Corruption Commission with an independent prosecutor and an independent judge’.
Subject: Is Zainab Bangura A Liar?
From: Zainabu BanguCrooks
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Date Posted: 13:52:03 07/23/08 ()
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COcorico News
Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation minister, Mrs. Zainab Bangura has disclosed to the media the arrival into Sierra Leone of top security officials, including personnel from the Federal Bureau of Investigations and the Scotland Yard Police to aid government's effort to track down those connected with the recent cocaine bust in the country.
Addressing journalists at the weekly Ministry of Information press briefing at Youyi Building in Freetown, the minister said the quantum of cocaine involved in the deal clearly shows that the substance was not destined for the local market. This, according to her, has caused the swift intervention of top world security agencies as the current matter does not only involve drug barons but consumers of drugs as well.
The minister recalled that Sierra Leone had been cautioned by the international community on the use of the West Africa axis as a conduit to smuggle drugs to other parts of the world. She said there are some islands in Guinea-Bissau that trade on drugs where government officials cannot even go. She also cited a case in Liberia where half a billion dollars worth of drugs were recently discovered in drums but the suspects failed to be arrested as is the case in Sierra Leone, and also in Ghana where a ship-load of drugs suddenly disappeared. He assured the public that such a thing will not happen in Sierra Leone as government is committed and sincere with the investigative process.
“The arrest of the suspects and exhibit is a blessing in disguise for Sierra Leone. If the country comes out good from this drug saga, it will maximize such an opportunity to her benefit. Government has responded swiftly by taking prompt action to investigate the matter. President Koroma himself has asserted that he does not care who is involved; even if his mother is involved she will go,” Mrs. Bangura re-echoed President Koroma's stance on the matter.
The minister further stated government's determination to re-brand the image of the country, since according to her, the drug saga has lots of implications for the nation such as the imposition of double charges on air flights and ships coming into the country and insurance, subjection of government ministers and other functionaries to rigorous searching at airports due to the risk associated with the drug. She said Sierra Leoneans applying for visas to travel abroad would have to contend with such humiliations at the moment until the nation comes out clean in the whole saga
Subject: Zainab lied to the Nation; EBK lied to the World
From: FBI
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Date Posted: 15:57:55 07/23/08 ()
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Q
Why did Cocaine APC lie about the involvement of FBI
and Scotland yard?
Ans
The have no respect for Sierra Leoneans
Think about it
Subject: Scotland Yard not involved in cocaine investigations
From: Scotlan Yard
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Date Posted: 13:43:13 07/23/08 ()
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Christian Monitor
Scotland Yard not involved in cocaine investigations
News - International
Wednesday, 23 July 2008
Scotland Yard says it is not involved in the ongoing cocaine investigations in Sierra Leone. This means that those of us, including President Koroma, who were expecting and had hoped for a thorough and conclusive investigation into the matter, should brace ourselves for a possible whitewash and a less than satisfactory outcome.
No one trusts the Sierra Leone Police (SLP), because of its recent history to carry out a detailed and exhaustive, fair and unprejudiced investigation. Perhaps this was why ministers played up the role of international policing organisations to lend credibility to the outcome, and most importantly to make the President and people of Sierra Leone believe that a fair and thorough investigation would be carried out. Today, however, we can reveal that Scotland Yard is not involved in any way in the investigations.
Press officer for the Metropolitan Police (Scotland Yard) Ashley Lovell confirmed today that Scotland Yard was not involved in the seizure of the 600kg of cocaine at Lungi International Airport Sunday 13th July, nor is it currently helping with the ongoing investigations. ‘I categorically deny any purported involvement of Scotland Yard in those investigations’ Lovell said.
The British High Commission in Freetown could confirm or deny the involvement of the foremost crime investigation organisation in the world, save to say that ‘it is a matter for the Sierra Leone Government to give correct and accurate information regarding individual organisations assisting them in the ongoing investigations’.
A source at State House in Freetown later accepted that Scotland Yard is indeed not involved in the investigations but that a lesser body from the UK called the Serious Organised Crime Agency (SOCA) is.
It lacks important resources in the UK, which Scotland Yard has, such as the Specialist Crime Directorate, which is often involved in major international criminal investigations. SOCA described itself as an executive non-departmental public body sponsored by, but operationally independent from, the British Home Office under which Scotland Yard operates.
Also, Interpol has also confirmed to us that they do not carry out investigations, which is done by the national police of the country concerned under ‘national laws’. The FBI for its part has a presence at the American Embassy in Freetown, which is nominal and in no way represent its presence and involvement in the investigations as played up by ministers.
What this all means is that the investigations on the cocaine saga is being carried out by the SLP with nominal involvement from international policing or crime fighting organisations. But the history of the SLP is one of bribe-taking and corruption, a police force that aids and abet, and protects criminality.
However, suddenly, we are meant to believe that they will carry out a thorough investigation in the biggest criminal case ever in the history of Sierra Leone. Nobody will believe that the President’s assertion that he ‘will get to the bottom of the matter’ was based on the competence and honesty of the Sierra Leone Police.
That was based on the full involvement of international crime fighting organisations like Scotland Yard. The SLP is not competent or credible to deliver in a case of such magnitude and President Koroma knows this.
Subject: Re: Scotland Yard not involved in cocaine investigations
From: Scotland Yard
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Date Posted: 13:52:50 07/23/08 ()
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Go ask your foreign minister.
Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation minister, Mrs. Zainab Bangura has disclosed to the media the arrival into Sierra Leone of top security officials, including personnel from the Federal Bureau of Investigations and the Scotland Yard Police to aid government's effort to track down those connected with the recent cocaine bust in the country. --cocorioco news
Subject: Re: Scotland Yard not involved in cocaine investigations
From: Sorry!!
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Date Posted: 03:26:04 07/24/08 ()
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Sorry she thought local CID is called Scotland Yard of Sierra Leone, and that is what she meant.
Subject: One by one
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 13:25:42 07/23/08 ()
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What have you done, what can you do?
Subject: Test
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 13:23:21 07/23/08 ()
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Very good try this one also.
Subject: What is the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 13:21:33 07/23/08 ()
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Sociopath and psychopath
Interchangeable terms for the same character disorder
What is the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath? It depends who you ask.
The terms "sociopath" and "psychopath" describe pretty much the same personality disorder—people who feel no emotional connections to others and have zero regard for the rules and regulations of society.
Psychology professionals disagree about which term to use—which, unfortunately, only confuses the public. Some researchers have come to think of a sociopath as someone who is socialized in an antisocial subculture, such as a gang.
Lovefraud has chosen to use the term "sociopath" to describe this personality disorder. Why? The word "pscyhopath" sounds similar to the words "psychotic" and "psycho", which most people associate with someone who is mentally ill. Lovefraud wants you to understand that these people are not crazy.
Another term, "antisocial personality disorder (ASP)," is similar. This is the term used in the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition (DSM-IV). According to DSM-IV as presented by BehaveNet®, a person can be diagnosed as antisocial if since age 15 he or she has shown a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others. The person must have indicated at least three of the following:
Failure to conform to lawful social norms
Deceitfulness
Impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
Irritability and aggressiveness, as indicted by repeated physical fights or assaults
Reckless disregard for safety of self or others
Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations
Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent about having hurt, mistreated or stolen from another
According to Dr. Robert Hare, however, the terms are not synonymous. Dr. Hare, who prefers to use "psychopath," explains that antisocial personality disorder refers to a cluster of criminal and antisocial behaviors, whereas psychopathy encompass both personality traits and socially deviant behaviors. All psychopaths would also be diagnosed has having antisocial personality disorder, but not everyone with antisocial personality disorder is a psychopath.
Medical experts estimate that 3% of men and 1% of women have ASP. In the United States, that would add up 4.4 million men and 1.5 million women. This would include sociopaths/psychopaths, which Dr. Hare estimates at 1% of the North American population.
Regardless of which term you use, what is important is recognizing the symptoms.
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take the test this time with video.
http://www.allofthecrap.com/22/the-psychopath-test/
Subject: News from September 24 U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Alb
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 13:14:18 07/23/08 ()
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September 24. U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright will travel to Africa October 17-27, where she will visit Sierra Leone, Guinea, Mali, Nigeria, Kenya, and Tanzania, State Department James Rubin announced on Friday. "The visit will focus on America's evolving partnership with Africa, and the common interest we share in ending conflicts, promoting democracy, and supporting economic reform across the continent," Rubin said. Albright will reportedly enter Sierra Leone from Guinea, as damage to Lungi International Airport during the country's civil war has left the airport incapable of handling large aircraft. "In Sierra Leone a recent peace agreement offers hope for ending a conflict characterized by horrendous abuses of human rights," Rubin said. This will be Albright's third trip to Africa since becoming Secretary of State.
The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) has begun relocating Sierra Leonean refugees fleeing fighting between rebels and Liberian security forces in northern Lofa County, Liberia, UNHCR spokesman Kris Janowski said in a statement issued in Geneva on Friday. After the Liberian government finally gave permission Tuesday for the refugees to be relocated, the UNHCR immediately sent a first convoy of trucks to Tarvey, where more than 9,000 of the refugees have sought safety and assistance, he said. 308 of the refugees were moved Wednesday to Sinje Camp, in Cape Mount County north of Monrovia, which currently shelters 5,000 refugees but has space for an additional 15,000 to 20,000 people. Convoys will ferry refugees to the site every three days. The refugees began moving to Tarvey in August, after armed attacks on villages around Kolahun forced aid workers to withdraw from the area. In the past ten days 5,000 refugees have reached Tarvey — 900 of them in the past two days alone — after a five-day walk through the forest, Janowski said. Several thousand more are reported to be on their way. An estimated 300 to 400 more elderly, handicapped or ill Sierra Leonean refugees remain at Kolahun, unable to make the trip to the transit point at Tarvey on foot. The UNHCR has requested an armed escort for a convoy to transport the group to Sinje, and hoped to get approval on Friday. The UNHCR continues to provide basic supplies and medical assistance to the refugees at Kolahun by helicopter, but aid workers have been unable to return by road for security reasons. Slightly different numbers were given Friday by Medicins sans Frontieres (MSF - Doctors Without Borders) Chief of Mission Amanda Harvey, who described some 7,000 refugees on the move, including elderly people in wheelbarrows. "This group includes a significant number of vulnerables — people too elderly and infirm to take on the long journey towards safe refuge and humanitarian assistance," Harvey said. She told reporters that the transit camp at Tarvey was already overcrowded and that there were already cases of bloody diarrhoea among the refugees arriving there. She said about 16,000 Sierra Leonean refugees were living in Kolahun prior to attacks in the area by Liberian insurgents in August. According to the UNHCR there are some 90,000 Sierra Leonean refugees in Liberia, of whom 35,000 were in northern Lofa County before the recent fighting.
Liberian Defence Ministry officials are investigating reports of a shooting incident between Liberian soldiers and Kamajor militiamen September 17 along the Sierra Leone-Liberia border at the Pokonu crossing point in Grand Cape Mount County. According to Liberia's Star Radio, the incident was occasioned by a disagreement between the soldiers and the militiamen over a deal to allow the Kamajors to move people across the Mano River into and out of Liberia. The Liberian government last year closed its border with Sierra Leone after accusations by Sierra Leone and the international community that Liberia was providing support to AFRC/RUF rebels. Allegedly, the soldiers were demanding money to allow the Kamajors to cross the border. "AFL soldier Pewee Harris reportedly shot between the legs of two Kamajors," Star Radio reported. "They allegedly crossed people into Liberia without paying the agreed fee. The report said the two Kamajors later ran for safety into Liberian bushes. The incident prompted dozens of Kamajors to storm the Mano River bridge at Bo Waterside in demand of their men." Defence Minister Daniel Chea said the illegal operation had compromised national security and that the soldiers involved would face court martial.
Subject: Why Sierra Leone national organ.( U.S.A.) failed?
From: SORIE Jawara
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Date Posted: 12:46:25 07/23/08 ()
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It was no big deal or any chest hitting excercise for many Sierra Leoneans to start a new revolution and sense of better direction. Why should fragmented organizations exist intead of a powerful national organization that will champion honorable courses and deal with problems effectively? It started ok and moved swiftly , but less than five u turns trouble started and the org. is now dust or almost ash. What went wrong and ......why it failed is still a smoke on a dead sea bed. I have no idea ,but corner whisperers say, tribalism, poor leadership, personal interests and don don game are the roots . Please help us understand why....why...why ...SLNA failed.
Subject: Re: Why Sierra Leone national organ.( U.S.A.) failed?
From: Lukewarm
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Date Posted: 13:23:05 07/23/08 ()
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Great question. One of the major problems for this is tribalism. Almost in all the organizations I have seen (SL) here in the US, they malfunction because a faction within is undermining the leadership or a group of individuals think they are the best to lead. This has to do with self interest and greed as well. For the tribalism I mentioned, there is always the tendency of some tribes to undermined anything that is led by others other than their tribe(s). We have seen secret organizations formed within an organization and always have side meetings to undermine what ever is discuss in a meeting.
Subject: Re: Why Sierra Leone national organ.( U.S.A.) failed?
From: SORIE Jawaras
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Date Posted: 17:50:36 07/23/08 ()
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LUKEWARM, Thank you. I hope we can do better because this is the first stage of development. If it cannot work at this level , the top is in big trouble.
Subject: Dis Kutubu man dae woke?
From: Bonthe Pikin
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Date Posted: 12:45:45 07/23/08 ()
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I am surprised at the way Kutubu just appeared on this forum and spends the rest of the day splattering everything he thinks he knows about others and Sierra Leone. I am seriously interested in knowing if this guy is gainfully employed, because no sober minded employee would recruit a man who spends the better part of this day engaging in irrelevancies. I am concerned.
Subject: Re: Dis Kutubu man dae woke?
From: Lukewarm
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Date Posted: 13:29:33 07/23/08 ()
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Based on what I've seen and heard Kutubu's memory, I think he has reached the age of retirement. May be he has retired and all what he is doing now is using the forum to knock off the day. That leads me to another question, does he married because the time he is spending on the forum should have been used with his family.
Subject: Re: Dis Kutubu man dae woke?
From: Bob Jusu
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Date Posted: 12:57:42 07/23/08 ()
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Sometimes, i use the Bonthe Pikin handle, but I am Bob Jusus. I am now using my real name. Do you have a problem with that. I may be a munku man, but at least I am very honest.
Subject: Re: Dis Kutubu man dae woke?
From: Munku Bob
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Date Posted: 12:52:52 07/23/08 ()
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Bo, Bob Jusus mind you own bizness. Enti Kutubu nor call you en ask you for money, ooss wan na you own munku bizness dae. Munu Bob Jusu just clear out.
Subject: EBK blasts Health Minister
From: Lanzo
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Date Posted: 11:56:41 07/23/08 ()
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I have this from a genuine source that president Koroma blasted the Health Minster for not ppulling his weight. Word has it that the president was shocked with the state of the private clinics and so called private hospitals. It was said that the surgery of one of the best doctors in Freetown is filthy even though he charges a hell of a lot of money for doing operations.
Choithrams hospital at Hill Station run by indian doctors is sub standard.
The president told the minister that he should not concentrate on imported tablets only. If the minister does not make a tour of these surgeries and make recommendations for improvement he will be sacked at the next reshuffle.
Subject: Re: EBK blasts Health Minister
From: mahawa kamara
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Date Posted: 13:11:45 07/23/08 ()
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and so it should be. let be honest the health care in sieraa leone is not the best. you have doctor who charge an arm and a leg for basis health care. i think its about time the governemnt does something about it. i think that the president has the right to get rid of anyone who does not pull thier weight or fill the postion they have been given to the standard required of them. health care is an issue and i think we as a people need and demend better services
Subject: Re: EBK blasts Health Minister
From: kennie Zoker
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Date Posted: 12:54:29 07/23/08 ()
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Whoever believe what your president Koroma says?
He is just another Josephine Tucker.
Subject: Nigeria: Africa's Unsung Hero
From: umufaali
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Date Posted: 11:35:13 07/23/08 ()
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Mr. Conteh, this is the kind of story we are looking for. This is a good one and am behind you on this one. Keep up the good work.
Subject: Re: Nigeria: Africa's Unsung Hero
From: Jacob
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Date Posted: 13:27:13 07/23/08 ()
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After studying, working and travelling all over Nigeria for seven years, I know that most Nigerians are honest, patriotic, kind and peace-loving people. Like any other country in the world, there are always rogue elements, but they are a tiny minority in the country of more than one hundred million.
Subject: Re: Nigeria: Africa's Unsung Hero
From: Adu conteh
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Date Posted: 12:27:02 07/23/08 ()
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Stop praising and gratifying Nigerian criminals who imports crimes in all over the world. The negative side of the Nigerian criminal far outweigh the good side. Nigerians are despised all over the world because of their notoriaty. In almost every African country, Nigerians have been picked on and many deported because of the actions of the few. Lybia dispatched several hundereds of Nigerian few years back. South Africa is harassing them to leave. It will not be long when Salone will have to send them back home if they do not behave themselves. In mecca saudi Arabia, a relative of mine who went to haji, said he saw dozens of amputees begging and that all of them were Nigerians who were administerd Sharia law justice by the saudis for theft.
I do not know about USA, but here in UK, many high street banks do not opened account on Nigerian passport. That is one of the reasons why Nigerian like to used Sierra Leone passport. In the past, public officials gave benefit of doubtwhen a black African appeared before them. Not now, many black Africans in UK are presumed to come from Nigeria and they are treated with contempt because of the wildly held belief that all Nigerians are crooks.
How many time have I been shouted at by a white racist on the street of London, you baster Nigerian go home. I have not had anyone say you baster Sierra Leonean go home.
The criminal activities of some Nigerians have exposed every black African to be label as criminal and dishonest. Consequently, most countries, especially the developed world are tightening their laws and policies designed to make life more difficult for the black african.
Subject: Re: Nigeria: Africa's Unsung Hero
From: zakmal
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Date Posted: 12:15:53 07/23/08 ()
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I've read the said article and it proves once again that Africa has promise but for the temporary custodians of power who are wrecking her. Nigeria and South Africa are could be powerhouses not only in the continent but in the world.Thabo Mbeki is slowly destroying a wonderful country can that do so much for it's black people. Economic empowerment should have been his clarion call on a daily basis whilst expanding and sharing south africa's knowledge with the rest of africa instead he spent his entire presidency playing defence for a brute called mugabe because of ideological affinity. With regards nigeria ,they also have the know how and access to petro dollars to make nigeria a power to be reckoned with instead you had a series of fraudsters masquarading as heads of state since Tafawa Belewa was ousted. The most recent fraudster (Obasanjo) was even a greater disgrace because he was given a second chance to make a difference in nigeria and he failed misrably by continue to be the same corrupt man even after twenty years hence his first stint as head of state.
The most interesting twist in the nigerian saga is that his successor Umaru Yar-adua whom he thought would be his puppet has turned on him and the guy is cleaning house. Keep an eye on this man as he is bent on changing nigeria for the better regardless of how he was elected. His respect for the rule of law is slowly making a difference in nigeria as a lot of elected governors from his party are losing their seats through the legal process.Hopefully, if he is not silenced by the boys in khaki he would have achieved more for nigeria by the end of his second term than all those before him.
Subject: Re: Nigeria: Africa's Unsung Hero
From: Chiefdom Elders
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Date Posted: 11:47:19 07/23/08 ()
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WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Subject: Inviting Sheka Tarawalie to the Podium to "TELL IT ALL"
From: Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas
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Date Posted: 11:10:26 07/23/08 ()
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Good Night Berewa, Good Morning President Koroma - Part 2
Monday, September 17, 2007 - Sierra Leone Live
By Sheka Tarawalie (Shekito) in Manchester,UK.
The zenith of Solomon Berewa’s power was not when he was made Vice President, neither when he was Attorney General. In-between those two positions, Berewa was made leader of a presidential task force that would clean up the way for the return of President Kabbah from Guinea after the AFRC had been dislodged by Nigerian forces in February 1998. If you would like to imagine how a Berewa presidency would have looked like (since he’s already lost this contest), then rewind the clock to those days and ponder. In the absence of Kabbah, Berewa had sweeping extraordinary powers and this was clearly manifested in the thousands of people (including an 80-year-old grandmother and even children) that were arrested and crammed in prisons across the country for treason (Sierra Leone has the record of having tried the highest number of treason suspects since the world was created). It was during this presidential-task-force period that the unpalatable, inhuman method of burning people alive was devised, while several people’s names were placed on death lists for jungle justice.
On one of those lists was my name. On another list was that of President Joseph Saidu Momoh. Prior to this, I had never met President Momoh. Momoh, a life-loving, easy-going former soldier who had the presidency handed over to him on a silver platter had been overthrown in 1992 and only came back to Sierra Leone to marry a Guinean woman in1997 when the May 25 coup occurred. But before he was forced to leave power, Momoh had ensured that the properties seized by the state due to the findings of a commission of enquiry in 1967 be returned to Tejan Kabbah, about whom the commission had warned that he should never be trusted with any public office again (we did not heed that advice - at our own peril!).
However, during Berewa’s task force days, Momoh was arrested, and subsequently charged with treason, found guilty, and sentenced - as were journalists I.B. Kargbo, Hilton Fyle, Dennis Smith, Gipu Felix-George, Olivia Mensah (a female journalist), Conrad Roy (who died in prison), Marouf Sesay (who was executed), and many others. I had then narrowly escaped with the help of some fishermen through the peninsular to Waterloo and then to my hometown (where I had to be in hiding, monitoring events, for over one year). But as Wilfred Burchett, “the pocket-handkerchief-sized Australian journalist” who was the first to visit Hiroshima after it had been bombed, would say in his article to the Daily Express in 1945 titled ‘The Atomic Plague’, “diligent journalists have the right to expect extraordinary coincidences from time to time”. President Momoh and I met in the most extraordinary of circumstances in 1999.
When Berewa, as lead prosecutor in the thousand-man treason trial, had interpreted the law by its letter and not by its spirit (in the manner of Shakespeare’s Shylock asking for his pound of flesh), and when he had succeeded in ensuring that twenty four people were publicly executed at the same time asking the spectators to clap like a scene from a theatre in old Rome, the SLPP government became so emboldened as to say there were now only remnants of rebels (some of whom they were recently using as bodyguards/campaign thugs) who would soon be flushed out.
But on January 6 1999, Freetown woke up to the realization that the government had not been telling the truth at all. The rebels entered the city, and one of their targets was to release the masses of incarcerated treason suspects (an assortment of soldiers, ordinary civilians, politicians, teachers/lecturers, civil servants, drivers, pastors, imams, policemen and women, even palmwine tappers). Among the released, obviously, was Joseph Saidu Momoh. But Momoh, like all the others, would not celebrate his new-found freedom, as Nigerian forces started pushing the rebel forces away from the city. The only alternative of not being captured again or killed was to be taken by the rebels into the “bush”. So President Momoh, along with his political godfather Chief Alimamy Dura, and many others, had to walk up hills and through rivers and valleys to arrive in Makeni (which had earlier fallen to junta forces), 115 miles from Freetown.
It was here, specifically at my home village of Mabanta, where I had been in hiding, that the junta forces found the home of Rtd. Col. A.O. Kamara (who was later to be an SLPP parliamentarian) and decided to put both Momoh and Chief Dura there, with restrictions on their movement. This was a house that was just a stone throw away from my family home. Momoh and Dura were brought at night; and by morning, through my village network, I had known the big story. Vice versa, Momoh had been told by the now-Special-Court-sentenced junta duo, Tamba Brima (Gullit) and Santigie Kanu (55) - who had earlier found me out through a local journalist - that Mabanta was my hometown and I was around. Momoh had read my articles before, but he was anxious now to see me face to face. It took over a week before the junta could allow me to start meeting with Momoh (a process that would eventually smoothen to the extent that I needed no more protocol to have access to their residence).
In all my career as a journalist (including here in the UK where I am a member of the National Union of Journalists, through which I have benefited from journalism/media-related courses at Lincoln and Oxford universities, also a Board member of the Exiled Journalists Network comprising of over 200 members from across the world and have been writing in newspapers, newsletters and magazines), I can still say the high point of my journalism was my series of interviews (or let’s call them discussions) with former President - now late - Joseph Saidu Momoh. I had all the time in the world, and I did not have to rush to meet a deadline since I had no contacts with the world outside Makeni.
It would have to take me many more years - perhaps never again - to meet a man like J.S. Momoh. In adversity, he was full of life. Bible in hand, visibly demonstrating the life of a man who had been touched by a superior supernatural force, he never hid his mistakes about when he was president. In fact Momoh was too frank for my comfort when it came to talking about his past. But I learnt a lot from him - especially about the ephemeral nature of power: how power should not be deified, how power should not be seen as a means to make the rest of mankind look like grasshoppers, how power should just be seen a means to serve and not to dictate. It was then that I realized that Momoh’s major mistake was an aptitude to make others feel not inferior even at the detriment of the functions of the presidency. But Momoh was also witty enough to see the mistakes of others: and it was him that indicated to me that the real SLPP power-broker was not Tejan Kabbah, but Solomon Berewa, who was nursing the ambition of becoming president, but would never be.
Momoh went to some historical details that I will not bother to delve in now. But, of course, he denounced the SLPP’s military intervention of fighting back to get power. He made himself an example. He said if he were a power-thirsty politician, he would have done the same in 1992. Momoh said his best friend then, Ibrahim Babaginda of Nigeria with whom he had negotiated for Sierra Leone to be made a base for ECOMOG, together with Lansana Conteh who hosted him, had asked him about the military option, but he vehemently ruled it out “to avoid innocent casualties”. Momoh also mentioned Siaka Stevens before him and Valentine Strasser after him as Heads of State who were overthrown and found themselves in Guinea but did not attack Sierra Leone to regain power. He said those who connived to attack in 1998 and then embarked on a witch-hunting mission to cower all perceived opponents would sooner or later realize that it’s worth not fighting for.
And one thing that amazed me - it still amazes me - was Momoh’s confidence that his party, the APC, would rule Sierra Leone again. He said it with the authority of a prophet. When I met him again in Freetown after the signing of the Lome Peace Accord with his Guinean wife, Momoh was still confident that his party would one day make a political comeback to power. I never realized it will be this soon. Good Night Berewa, Good Morning President Koroma! (Stay tuned for part three)
Good Night Berewa, Good Morning President Koroma - Part 1 (Monday, September 17, 2007)
I, together with many other well-meaning Sierra Leoneans, warned Berewa about the danger of relying on the chants and praises of soothsaying anarchists masquerading as supporters. And now, the preliminary official reports of the National Electoral Commission (NEC) have started showing the feet of clay - that Solomon Ekuma Berewa is on his way out to the dark alley of political oblivion.
Good Night Berewa, Good Morning President Koroma - Part 3 (Friday, September 21, 2007)
You don’t need to be a psychologist or psychiatrist to know that Solomon Ekuma Berewa was not on his own - rather, was not himself - when he attended the swearing-in ceremony of Ernest Bai Koroma as the fourth Executive President of Sierra Leone.
Subject: M. Alieu Iscandari, Esq. redefines brutality and savagery!
From: Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas
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Date Posted: 10:37:06 07/23/08 ()
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Subject: Kamajor bit his ear off and ate it.
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 16:09:06 03/11/07 ()
"Kamajors were prominent among those scouring the West of Freetown, determined to catch perceived key figures of the RUF movement. The Commission found it remarkable that throughout the operation, the Kamajors appeared to work in harmony with the West Side Boys,their once arch enemies. Several testimonies from captives mentioned more than one faction involved in single arbitrary arrests accompanied by brutal physical violations. The following example comes from an RUFP member who had fled in fear from Sankoh’s Lodge on 8 May 2000:
“I ran out of the house with a few others. I escaped and on my way I came along some Kamajors and some West Side Boys. I was caught around Wilberforce and they put me under gunpoint. Fortunately for me they did not kill me, but [they] stripped me naked without briefs and I was beaten mercilessly.
One of the Kamajors bit my left ear, cut part of it off with his teeth and ate it raw in my presence. They asked me to walk forward because they were going to kill me.
Subject: “One of the Kamajors dragged me outside and cut off my left
From: M. Alieu iscandari Esq
The following victims narrated to the Commission how they were forced to eat parts of their own bodies by the Kamajors and the RUF respectively:
“One of the Kamajors dragged me outside and cut off my left ear and told me to chew it under gun point.”
“I told them there was nothing more and I kept pleading for mercy. Still one of them came from among their lot and cut off my left ear and then put the half into my mouth to eat. As I chewed, the blood oozed out of my mouth. But as I wanted to take it out he hit me with a gun. Still I was pleading to [them to] show mercy. They told me that the next operation was going to be my penis, which they were going to cut off. I was then held, tied up and dropped to the ground. They opened my legs and put them apart. My scrotum was first held and pierced open. The penis was then held as well and chopped off using the same knife. After that they left me and went away to my village where they assembled in their numbers.”
The CDF and the RUF account for the majority of the forced cannibalism violations. For every other violation category, the majority of that violation type are attributed to the RUF.
Subject: Re: M. Alieu Iscandari, Esq. redefines brutality and savagery!
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq.
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Date Posted: 10:54:52 07/23/08 ()
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It wasnt me. It was what the witness said. I didnt tell him to say it. He spoke the truth about what happened. The Kamajors were cannibals and that is what the evidence points to.
Subject: Re: M. Alieu Iscandari, Esq. redefines brutality and savagery!
From: Paul sesay
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Date Posted: 11:06:55 07/23/08 ()
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" I didnt tell him to say it" Hmm...Was that why you were fired? Tampering with the WITNESS?
Subject: Re: M. Alieu Iscandari, Esq. redefines brutality and savagery!
From: Kadi Kamara
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Date Posted: 11:28:35 07/23/08 ()
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And after he was fired, he came back to the US and stole Kadiatu Kamara's money. Ar guess say nar way one kamajo borbor eat ee mammi ee pussy make ee call dem all canibal.
Subject: Re: Typical Mende Thug Response
From: Eileen Vandi
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Date Posted: 18:19:53 07/23/08 ()
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You are not a woman and you are a mende man and you dont respect even your own mother and thats why you can speak so badly about other peoples mothers. The kamajors weree canibals. That may even include you and your papa.
Subject: Re: M. Alieu Iscandari, Esq. redefines brutality and savagery!
From: Eric Jabati
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Date Posted: 18:13:40 07/23/08 ()
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As an SLPP member you put us to shame. What does his mother have to do with what he posted. Address the issue please and save the petrsonal attacks for your goat blood drinking and swearing ceremonies
Subject: Poetry
From: L. Poyo
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Date Posted: 10:34:23 07/23/08 ()
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Wae dee tick bin timap tranga wan
Res bin dae wutehteh
but we make tranga yace
Make ace forget ole belful
Becos den lie say tin go osai
Dee san don wam we hair
Dee tem wae cap don dear
We cut dee tick don last year
Now shade nor dae for koba we hair
We bin feel say den cam for betteh
Lamina Poyo jus dae betteh ihsef
Dee Osai don too Owai
Last year we bin dae sing sae
Some man go feel am na den hair
We go dreb dee two foot arata
Borbor belleh too rotten belleh
En we gee dee landlord dem notice
Now dee san don wam na we iya
Dee tem wae cap don dear
Man dem all don turn mumu
Hungri make den nor able sing
Becos dee Osai don too Owai
Pipul den nor get eat na den ose
Kono bomba buy million dollar ose
Lamina Poyo spend million dollar pan wakabot
Alpha Mafia gee oga man 4 million dollar contract
Haja electric gee oga man 32 million dollar contract
Wae we tohk den say na global markit
Ogiri dear; Na global markit
Jamba dear; Na global markit
Kaindah dear; Na global market
Borbor Pain suffer; Na global market
Yeaaah Savis man dem dae cry becos
Dee Osai don too Owai
Subject: Re: Poetry
From: avid reader
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Date Posted: 09:40:34 07/24/08 ()
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Latest from California Poet
http://www.thenewpeople.com/080715laminapoyo.htm
Subject: The Brig.Bangura coup : Some corrections
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 09:38:56 07/23/08 ()
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Kutubu, my man :
Major Rico made some valuable corrections and I think you should take note of them. Much as your historical flashbacks are very interesting and in some cases educative, there are flaws that you need to correct.
Brigadier John Bangura was my uncle and I think you mischaracterized him when you accused him of launching tribally-motivated attacks on the South East. Major Rico placed the incident in the right perspective. Apart from the fact that I did not know my late uncle for being tribalistic (Soldiers in the army then can attest to the fact that he was never tribalistic ), Sierra Leone then was still under British rule with the Governor-General representing Her Majesty The Queen. In those days, the army did not have the laxity and fiat to bypass traditional military command launch such attacks on tribes. You know the British monarch could not have stomached such indisciplined acts by the armed forces.
Also, you characterized Brig. Bangura as a drunk and womanizer as well as an inept soldier. I cannot defend him for his drinking habits and his association with women (How many young soldiers in such high positions do not give recourse to these two activities ? Even the Babangida and others you praised were worse .Drinking and womanizing are two major flaws of soldiers. Read about Mobutu, Abacha, Babangida, Marcias Nguema, etc.Only three military leaders or officials , to my knowledge were moderate and controlled--Jerry Rawlings, Thomas Quiwonkpa and Murtala Muhammed. These were model soldiers) .
However, Bangura was a disciplined and excellent soldier. He led the Sierra Leone Army contigent in the UN Peacekeeping force in the CONGO and he made a great name there as an excellent and disciplined military officer. The very Congo known for drunken and rapist soldiers.
Bangura's coup failed because he was betrayed by those who approached him and convinced him to move against Siaka Stevens. Some people said his wife, Regina, who had become very jealous and at loggerheads with him over his relations with the malata woman, Jemila, leaked the plot to Pa. Shaki. I have no evidence for this and I am not saying it is true.
SOLDIERS face that problem of an insider always leaking plots to the authorities. That was why Mst.Sgt Samuel K.Doe launched his coup against President Tolbert on Saturday April 12, 1980, the very night he, Quiwonkpa, Weh Syen, Podier, Nelson Toe etc made their very first meeting where all the main coup plotters were present. Ofcourse, before that they had talked about it when it seemed like Tolbert would have executed Bacchus Matthews and others, including Doe's cousin, George Segbe Bolay on Monday April 14, 1980.They decided not to have a second meeting . Weh Syen got up and said that they had to go now and wait for no other day because one of them could go and leak it. He placed everybody at gun point and asked them to leave immediately to execute the plot. Fallah Varney was based at the mansion as one of Tolbert's most trusted guards. The coup plotters were not sure that they could have got him again to be with them a second time , and he understood the mansion and was to lead them inside. Thus, they moved that very night .
If you read the many books on the coups in Nigeria , Ghana and the Congo, etc (I have them from Amazon.com ),you will notice that this is a common fear among soldiers ---That one of them would always go and leak out the plot.
The ACRM overthrew the NRC and handed over to the NIC (National Interim Council ), which Bangura was called to head , as the most senior officer ,who had not taken part in the 1967-68 crisis. It was the NIC, on the advice and consent of the Governor-General, who handed power to Mr. Siaka Stevens, based on the Dove -Edwin Commission report which stated that the APC won the 1967 General Elections.
Get these facts right.
Subject: Re: The Brig.Bangura coup : Some corrections
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 10:10:45 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
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Mr.Kanu,on everything you said i will go along.However on the Kosovo type genocidal attack he launched in the Kailahun district,no dice.
I understand he is related to you and in most cases,he should be defended in just about the same way Conteh's supporters stood by him thick and thin on the face of overwhelming evidence of personal moral failure.The fact remains,he went on a mission calculatedly designed to dismember the southeaster part of the country.His reign of terror was felt by the people of Kailahun.
In the context of his professionalism,it becomes a question of academia.For any body in such an august position as chief of army staff to be so reckless in your social conduct as to reflect on your profession such as going out to drink in public and to be self disabled to the point that the security detail had to help physically hand carry you to a government official vehicle 00SLOO assigned to the chief of army staff,believe it was something i never felt i will see with my naked eyes.Had Brigadier Blackie remained in the force and that reported to him,Bangura would not have made past the rank of Captain.
As for his failed attempt to dislodge Stevens,i think his personal professional incompetence and fundamental lack of knowledge of the endless ramifications involved in a venture like that are to blame.On the Bangura saga,we will continue to disagree on what he did or lack thereof that contributed to his dismal failure and eventual demise in the hands of a less of a human being that he helped restored to power.If a functional illeterate like Samuel Doe was able to make his way into the executive mansion and sidelined Tolbert,I fail to see how a man who had supporters like Jawara and ABU Noah of all failed so miserably.
I am very sorry if i have offended your sense of protocol on my take on your relative.Remember however he was a public servant and that makes him a very goos target.The other day,i talked about the values Mr.Abdul Rahman Sesay demonstrated while he was a public servant even though some bode had a different take on my perspective of him.On John Bangura,he was not the Babatunde Idiagbon or Muhamadu Buhari soldier the nation invested so much on.
I will continue to hold very firm to the fact that Bangura waged a Kosovo type genocide on the people of Kailahun and there are living people who can attest to that.The man was just out of control which even Stevens said.That explained why he called him a "MEGALOMANIA" after his arrest.I am sure Sir.Banja's eventual dismissal from office indirectly had to do with his association with him.Many times,i saw him in the company of the late distinguished gentleman.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Maybe if the SLPP had settled its internal dispute...
From: Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas
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Date Posted: 08:54:17 07/23/08 ()
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"Sierra Leone-Opposition-Unity
Sierra Leone’s main opposition party settles internal dispute
APA-Freetown (Sierra Leone) Officials of Sierra Leone’s main opposition All People’s Congress [APC] party, said the party was in good shape to face the ruling party following the amicable resolution of an internal crisis, APA lerans here Thursday.
Ernest Bai Koroma, APC leader and presidential candidate said the party was now "united and focused more than ever before,” the APC leader said Thursday.
The rift within the APC had lingered on for about four years, spliting the party between two factions claiming legitimacy to the leadership.
Koroma’s leadership of the party was challenged in court by some dissidents who claimed that he had imposed himself as leader.
The spokesman of the APC Alpha Kanu, also an MP for the APC told journalists Thursday evening, at the party’s Brookfields headquarters that all court matters will now be withdrawn and outstanding issues addressed within the party framework.
The APC, which is Sierra Leone’s largest opposition party in parliament ruled the country from 1968 to 1992 before it was overthrown by a military junta, the National Provisional Ruling Council [NPRC] of Captain Valentine Strasser."
Subject: Re: Maybe if the SLPP had settled its internal dispute...
From: yahya kaloko
To: All
Date Posted: 11:53:21 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: yahyakaloko@aol.com
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Dr Curtis-Thomas,
Do you mean the Sierra Leone Peoples Party as the opposition party? The current party in power is the All Peoples Congress party. The Sierra Leone Peoples Party is the opposition.
Subject: Re: Maybe if the SLPP had settled its internal dispute...
From: Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas
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Date Posted: 12:00:17 07/23/08 ()
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Posted by yahya kaloko on July 23, 2008 at 11:53:21:
In Reply to: Maybe if the SLPP had settled its internal dispute... posted by Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas on July 23, 2008 at 08:54:17:
Dr Curtis-Thomas,
Do you mean the Sierra Leone Peoples Party as the opposition party? The current party in power is the All Peoples Congress party. The Sierra Leone Peoples Party is the opposition.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________
PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE AGAIN LOUDLY AND SLOWLY AND TRY TO COMPREHEND WHAT YOU READ. YOUR QUESTION HAS NO MERIT. IT IS IRRITATING WHEN PEOPLE JUST JUMP UP AND "ASK GBOTO-GBATA QUESTION".
Have a good day!
Subject: Is it true?
From: zakmal
To: All
Date Posted: 08:52:19 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
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Reports in a newspaper alledged that the airport log that is used to record arrivals and departures of any aircraft landing in lungi is now missing.Why don't we have computers in that tower for heaven's sake?What is the government doing with taxes they collect on every airline ticket a passenger purchased to enter freetown?What are they doing also with the confiscatory airport tax they collect from every departing passenger as well?This double taxation should enable any well meaning government to provide a decent airport and efficient services. The report also alledged that the ring leaded Ahmed Sesay purchased two official vehicles for the president and his vice TAG number P 1 and VP 1.It is also alledged in the article that probably he was reibursed.It is also alledged that the same aircraft made two landings in magburaka during the campaign. It is also alledged that this alledged drug baron is always in the VP's side and his convoy as well.If all of these allegations are true then my question would be "what did the president and vice president know and when did they know it".The matter trancends party politics folks,we are talking about our country and we don't demand aswers from these temporary custodians then we have failed the next generation who are going to fighting drug lords to regain their sovreignty.
Subject: Why I consider Kabs Kanu the best journalist
From: Town Crier
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Date Posted: 08:41:20 07/23/08 ()
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1.I have known him for 40 years when he wrote for the Tablet newspaper.
2.When we all went to live in Liberia also, he was good when he wrote articles in the New Liberian and Daily Observer, New York Times etc
3.When he wrote for Expotimes,you all know
4.Lets be honest.His quality of writing in cocorioko second to none.
We all know that we who are sierra leoneans don't want the best among us to be praised because we who are Sierra Leone are full of envy for ourselves.Itis our biggest problem.If you want to abuse me,let me give you my reasons.May be, you are too stupid that is the reason for your abuse.Say what you can,I hold to my opinion whereby I have heard it from many top journalists in Liberia and in America.
Subject: Re: Why I don't consider Kabs Kanu the best journalist
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 10:00:41 07/23/08 ()
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TOWN CRIER, my meh :
Thank you for your compliments. It is good to have people who appeciate your efforts. However, I don't consider myself the best and I don't want to be.
1. All I am doing is in the interest of my country.I am not doing it to get accolades . If I am given an award, like when NOSLINA and SLPP NEW YORK gave me awards, I will take them. But my real goal is my country and my people.I don't give a rat's tail about classifications.
2.I love what I am doing. I started journalism as a schoolboy at CKC and I am in it because I have passion for the profession. I took the LONDON SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM course (In those days, they give only Diplomas, not like today )in 1979 while I was in Liberia ,not for anything but because I loved the profession.I have devoured over 100 books on JOURNALISM and if they were courses, by now I would have had graduate degrees in Journalism. I did all this because I had passion for the profession , not to be classified as this-or-that.
3. With my Diploma in Journalism, first degree in English and History; 2 Masters degrees in Education and 1 degree in Law, what do I care about classifications ? I know that by dint of my education , I can hold my own against anybody in this profession so, my meh, leave that thing .I am not the best and I don't care if I am not. I am satisfied with what I am. I have supreme confidence in myself .
4. We have lots of other journalists who are doing very well and could also be classified as the best, like my buddy Gibril of the PV, Neville of ST, Kevin of Awoko, Sylvia of AT, Abayomi of SE,etc.etc. etc.
So who am I ?
I am just your humble servant trying to do my best for my country.
I do appreciate your praise anyway.
BUT I AM NOT THE BEST. AND I DON'T CARE A RAT'S TAIL IF I AM OR NOT. That is not my reason for being in this profession. My reason is to serve my nation. Period.
You hate my political beliefs or alliances, that is your problem.
Subject: Re: Why I don't consider Kabs Kanu the best journalist
From: Kondo Fart
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Date Posted: 00:52:40 07/24/08 ()
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Kabs is a sycophantic arsehole who abandoned the country when he
was young and now wants to be recognized because he is running a
blog. The creep is not even a journalist, just a bloke with opinions.
Subject: Re: Why I consider Kabs Kanu the best journalist
From: zakmal
To: All
Date Posted: 09:47:57 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
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Message:
Brother, I don't think you will find any disagreements from forumites regarding the abilitiies of Kabs. I am a bit confused as to why you would think anyone would question his credentials or his resume. I have the utmost respect for this fine journalist even though I may disagree with him politically.I don't believe in the pull him down syndrome (PHD)that is so prevalent today in society,by the way not eclusive to sierra leones.
Just pay attention to what Obama is preaching in America. Tax the rich and punish success.
Subject: Re: Why I consider Kabs Kanu the best journalist
From: Obama '08
To: All
Date Posted: 16:57:49 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: albion@hotmail.com
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I don't know what you are suggesting about Obama, but the very rich CEOs, et. al., ought to be taxed their fair share; it is because of their good fortune to be born in this country, and into privileged layers in most cases, that they are what they are today.
Obama does not say what you attribute to him, you are distorting this great man's message; I suspect you are a republican (how morally scandalous!!!).
All I have to say to you is, God bless Obama! He will be our next president (by the Grace of God) and I only wish he could take up the job sooner than January. God protect him in his travels.
Subject: Re: Why I consider Kabs Kanu the best journalist
From: Uman Lappa
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Date Posted: 11:22:56 07/23/08 ()
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"Just pay attention to what Obama is preaching in America. Tax the rich and punish success"......zakmal.
Are you sure that is what Obama is preaching? I must have missed the Republican talking points this morning.
Subject: What's New In President Koroma's Last Public Address
From: Prezo
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Date Posted: 08:24:50 07/23/08 ()
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What's New In President Koroma's Last Public Address?
With Theo Nicol
(Wednesday 23 July, 2008)
I was quite excited when I heard the notice on the radio that my president was going to address the nation on the drug plane saga last Monday evening.
I had to leave everything I was doing to listen to his speech which eventually was aired at about 7.PM or so. And was I disappointed!
The president's speech appeared as if it had been written a week earlier but was not delivered due to whatever reason, as it contained nothing, absolutely nothing new.
All what he said had been reported by the media within the last week. His invitation to Scotland Yard drug experts to join in the investigations, that the street value of the drug found is over 100 million Dollars, and that the people should remain calm as there will be no sacred cows and that everything is been done to bring the culprits to book.
That was a very belated speech from a man who should have told his speech writers to at least give his old speech some new twist other than reading something that left much to be desired.
Mr. president, what we thought you were going to talk about was that you had suspended the Minister of Transport and aviation, the General manger of the Airports Authority, the Head of Security at the airport, The Inspector General of Police and also those directly involved with the security of the airport and our nation. Not a review of the major news headlines in the media in the last week.
Our President still thinks that it is not necessary to suspend these individuals until investigations are completed. And that is a very serious blunder on his part and an undermine of his anti-corruption stance.
The president has contradicted his own speech that there will be no sacred cows by refusing to temporarily remove these gentlemen from office as he is allowing the public to believe that indeed these men are sacred cows, whether the President admits that or not.
We all know that these gentlemen do not have the honour and integrity to resign their appointments on their own. Therefore, if the president keeps them on the job, they will stay there and probably be bold enough to interfere with the on going investigations.
What stops Acha Kamara, the Inspector General of Police to order AIG Somasa to delete or destroy evidences found during the investigations that are not in his interest or not in the best interest of his friends in high places?
What stops the Minister of Transport and Aviation, Kemoh Sesay from gaining access to the scene of the crime or any other place for that matter and destroy evidences that he considers as detrimental to his interest? After all, he is still the Minister and he can gain access to every part of the airport, the Police Commissioners' office and even the President's office any time he so desires.
The Minister is not a suspect, just like all these men we are calling on to step aside from office for a while. They are not suspects, but their presence in office can prejudice the case that is being investigated one way or the other.
We were indeed hoping that the president was going to announce that heads have started rolling over the cocaine plane saga, but that did not happen.
It is actually in the interest of the president and his Government that this case that has the potential to bring shame and disgrace to our nation is handled with the utmost sincerity and caution.
The president called on the international community to stay calm while the investigations and arrests continue. I still wonder why the international community, especially the United States and Britain have not called on the President to relieve these sacred cows from their duties for a while.
If this incident had happened in the USA or Britain, the Ministers and all the security bosses would have resigned by now. If that can happen in those countries, why not here?
And if it cannot happen here, why can't these countries advise the president to get rid of these people for a while as it would have been done in their own countries?
These days when the fight against drug trafficking is an international fight, I expect the methods of the war to be universally uniform. We cannot be fighting against drugs and still keep sacred cows in office.
Until our president addresses us again that he has fired these gentlemen, the investigations may remain suspect by those of us who are praying that integrity, transparency and dignity must be the guiding principles of every good government that will ever lead us in this nation.
That is my view.
Subject: Re: What's New In President Koroma's Last Public Address
From: karen samura
To: All
Date Posted: 11:02:44 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: rks61203@yahoo.com
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ADVISE TO DR. SYLVIA BLYDEN.
It is very unfornate that so called interlectuals could not make straight talks when they post their complains on the web site or on news tabloids. Dr. Sylvia Blyden pre-empted that H.E. Koroma,Knew about Mr. Tarawallie's action against her, and at the same time, defended, H.E. that she believe's that H.E. Koroma, did not know anything about Mr. Tarawallie's action against her. The whole story about what Dr. Blyden wants us to believe about H.E.'s personal character is confusing. I want Dr. Blyden to take one position on her opinion about H.E.Koroma. He is our president, and if we don't want him, or if he fails to deliver the goods, we have time to vote him out, comes the next election.The matter between Mr. Tarawallie and Dr. Blyden does not involve H.E.Koroma, but in many instances Dr. Blyden tried to bring in H.E. Koroma into it. We own both H.E. Koroma, and Dr. Blyden, therefore I truly want both to be respected. H.E. Dr. E.B. Koroma has impressed the whole world in his mattured politics and leadership. He has respect for the law, that is why he allows freedom of speech and the press in Sierra Leone. It is up to us Sierra Leoneans to interprete the message from the press. The balance sheet of the APC and SLPP is very simple to read, you don't need to be an ACCA holder. However, I personally hold Charles Margai in high esteem because he always attacks issues and not personalities. But he would hardly make it in Sierra Leone, because his house is divided against him.
Mr. Charles Margai is not contesting for chieftaincy, but for presidency. Therefore, with all respect, if the SLPP could not ignore the facts that both Charles Margai's Uncle and father were prime ministers , and treat Charles Margai as an individual, then SLPP will continue to suffer open political defeats in the hands of the APC that has clearly demonstrated that it wants all Sierra Leoneans to have a say in the country's governance. Dr. Christiana Thorpe has raised the bar so high that only true Sierra Leoneans can reach it. New Shaft, of late Buntinton Davies ( may his soul rest in peace) failed to regionalise the APC party, by always referring to late H.E. Dr. J.S. Momoh( may his soul rest in peace) as Binkolo palm wine tapper. But the truth is, Victor Foh and others lost all they had to defend the APC, and they are not northerners, as alledged by the former New Shaft. The difference here, is that Dr. Blyden is well educated, when compared to late Buntington Davies, therefore, I wish when she writes, let her just present the facts and not help us to interprete it, the public will interprete the facts. H.E. and V.P. Sumana are not only our leaders, but they are also are brothers of Sierra Leone. Let us critic them fairly, and at all costs. As for Sheka Tarawally, besides the matter between him and Dr. Blyden, which I claim to know nothing about, and would not like to comment, but still hold Mr. Sheka Taraally resputable as the only fearless journalist that attacked the murderous, NPRC-Strasser led government, and called them "villains or redeemers." We all agreed that the SLPP failed the nation that was why it was voted out. Therefore, if the APC fails the nation, it will also be voted out. The city of Freetown, where the popucace is more informed than Makeni, Kabala, Bo, or Kailahun is the laboratory for a sober party to make experiment of its leadership in in Sierra Leone. However, it is abundantly clear that, Freetown is not Makeni, or Kabala, or Bo, or Kailahun. A leader who is not able to make an impact in FREETOWN, is not a true leader of Sierra Leader. Therefore, George Herbert Williams if not attacked in his political journey, because he has come from the minority tribe in Sierra leone, he would take Sierra Leone to the promise land. H.E. Dr. E.B. Koroma has taken us across the Red Sea, and into the wilderness, but it is the V.P. Sam Sumana that will take Sierra Leone to the mountain top, where we shall see the promise land, and finally, Major George Williams will take us to the promised land of Sierra Leone, land of gold, diamonds, bauxite, rutile, cocoa, coffee, piassava, cattle.
Dr. Slyvia Blyden I wholeheartedly, apologize before you can ask me, if my comments offended you, but in many cases you have atttempted to redicule, President Dr. Koroma, and he has always allowed the public to make its judgement. Know that a leader whether bad or good is always chosen by God for a purpose, or a lesson. In Sierra Leone it is easier to make yourself a leader, than to make others leaders. Because you truly know what dream you have for the country, but you wlii never know fully what dream others have for the country. For instance, Dr. Christiana Thorpe has shown us her dream for the country, by fighting for herself and not make others, leaders. Dr. Sylvia Blyden, can you please make yourself a leader of Sierra Leone, you are very educated, very pleasant, or attractive, or has a beautiful personality, and comes from a reputable family. Can't you lead us? Fighting for the failed SLPP is not the right path. SLPP has a chance of strenghten itself, if it admits its faults, and face Mr. Charles Margai with respect, so that Mr. Charles Margai could make a public apology for all the ills of the SLPP, and reconstruct the party. The SLPP is a nothern party. Think of Chief Kandeh Bureh and others were all SLPP. But the story of late Major Kula Samba,(may her soul rest in peace) is worse than any story of abuse in the country. The SLPP does not only owe the family of late Kula Samba an apology, but owes all Sierra Leoneans an appology.
Dr. Blyden please forgive me, if I wronged you, because you truly love Sierra Leone, you are legal minded, and you have a dream for the country, but attempting to redicule H.E., Dr. E.B. Koroma indirectly is just standing on the way of your dream. God bless you Dr.Blyden, and gives you guidance in leading Sierra Leone that you love.
ROLAND BALLAH, USA
Subject: response to Mr. Alieu Sesay, Advise to Dr. Sylvia Blyden
From: karen samura
To: All
Date Posted: 22:48:10 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: rks61203@yahoo.com
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Message:
Hi Alieu Sesay, I am happy that you understood the whole story, except the phrase "legal minded." I don't have a standard definition. But to please you, it means someone who cares for the law or one that have respect for the rights of others. However, I am not a law student. But if you are to ask Charles Margai, the only Sierra Leonean that can save the failed SLPP, he will give you a standard answer, or definition. Note that, even if we don't like Charles Margai, but let us respect him as someone above tribal politics, that is common in the SLPP camp. He, C.F. Margai carries a huge respect among northerners and the people in the western area. To me he is like the mesaiah that was rejected by His folks. Therefore, it is either Charles Margai, or the SLPP continues to fail. nevertheless, it is time for the "SLPP press" to reconcile C.F. Margai and the SLPP. That is, to respect Mr. C.F. Margai for his merits and not because of his uncle or father that were Prime ministers. That is negative jealosy, or blind analysis. Thanks
Roland Ballah
Subject: Re: What's New In President Koroma's Last Public Address
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 11:10:19 07/23/08 ()
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"you are legal minded,"
What does the above mean? Mr Ballah.
Subject: Re: What's New In President Koroma's Last Public Address
From: karen samura
To: All
Date Posted: 11:02:01 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: rks61203@yahoo.com
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Message:
ADVISE TO DR. SYLVIA BLYDEN.
It is very unfornate that so called interlectuals could not make straight talks when they post their complains on the web site or on news tabloids. Dr. Sylvia Blyden pre-empted that H.E. Koroma,Knew about Mr. Tarawallie's action against her, and at the same time, defended, H.E. that she believe's that H.E. Koroma, did not know anything about Mr. Tarawallie's action against her. The whole story about what Dr. Blyden wants us to believe about H.E.'s personal character is confusing. I want Dr. Blyden to take one position on her opinion about H.E.Koroma. He is our president, and if we don't want him, or if he fails to deliver the goods, we have time to vote him out, comes the next election.The matter between Mr. Tarawallie and Dr. Blyden does not involve H.E.Koroma, but in many instances Dr. Blyden tried to bring in H.E. Koroma into it. We own both H.E. Koroma, and Dr. Blyden, therefore I truly want both to be respected. H.E. Dr. E.B. Koroma has impressed the whole world in his mattured politics and leadership. He has respect for the law, that is why he allows freedom of speech and the press in Sierra Leone. It is up to us Sierra Leoneans to interprete the message from the press. The balance sheet of the APC and SLPP is very simple to read, you don't need to be an ACCA holder. However, I personally hold Charles Margai in high esteem because he always attacks issues and not personalities. But he would hardly make it in Sierra Leone, because his house is divided against him.
Mr. Charles Margai is not contesting for chieftaincy, but for presidency. Therefore, with all respect, if the SLPP could not ignore the facts that both Charles Margai's Uncle and father were prime ministers , and treat Charles Margai as an individual, then SLPP will continue to suffer open political defeats in the hands of the APC that has clearly demonstrated that it wants all Sierra Leoneans to have a say in the country's governance. Dr. Christiana Thorpe has raised the bar so high that only true Sierra Leoneans can reach it. New Shaft, of late Buntinton Davies ( may his soul rest in peace) failed to regionalise the APC party, by always referring to late H.E. Dr. J.S. Momoh( may his soul rest in peace) as Binkolo palm wine tapper. But the truth is, Victor Foh and others lost all they had to defend the APC, and they are not northerners, as alledged by the former New Shaft. The difference here, is that Dr. Blyden is well educated, when compared to late Buntington Davies, therefore, I wish when she writes, let her just present the facts and not help us to interprete it, the public will interprete the facts. H.E. and V.P. Sumana are not only our leaders, but they are also are brothers of Sierra Leone. Let us critic them fairly, and at all costs. As for Sheka Tarawally, besides the matter between him and Dr. Blyden, which I claim to know nothing about, and would not like to comment, but still hold Mr. Sheka Taraally resputable as the only fearless journalist that attacked the murderous, NPRC-Strasser led government, and called them "villains or redeemers." We all agreed that the SLPP failed the nation that was why it was voted out. Therefore, if the APC fails the nation, it will also be voted out. The city of Freetown, where the popucace is more informed than Makeni, Kabala, Bo, or Kailahun is the laboratory for a sober party to make experiment of its leadership in in Sierra Leone. However, it is abundantly clear that, Freetown is not Makeni, or Kabala, or Bo, or Kailahun. A leader who is not able to make an impact in FREETOWN, is not a true leader of Sierra Leader. Therefore, George Herbert Williams if not attacked in his political journey, because he has come from the minority tribe in Sierra leone, he would take Sierra Leone to the promise land. H.E. Dr. E.B. Koroma has taken us across the Red Sea, and into the wilderness, but it is the V.P. Sam Sumana that will take Sierra Leone to the mountain top, where we shall see the promise land, and finally, Major George Williams will take us to the promised land of Sierra Leone, land of gold, diamonds, bauxite, rutile, cocoa, coffee, piassava, cattle.
Dr. Slyvia Blyden I wholeheartedly, apologize before you can ask me, if my comments offended you, but in many cases you have atttempted to redicule, President Dr. Koroma, and he has always allowed the public to make its judgement. Know that a leader whether bad or good is always chosen by God for a purpose, or a lesson. In Sierra Leone it is easier to make yourself a leader, than to make others leaders. Because you truly know what dream you have for the country, but you wlii never know fully what dream others have for the country. For instance, Dr. Christiana Thorpe has shown us her dream for the country, by fighting for herself and not make others, leaders. Dr. Sylvia Blyden, can you please make yourself a leader of Sierra Leone, you are very educated, very pleasant, or attractive, or has a beautiful personality, and comes from a reputable family. Can't you lead us? Fighting for the failed SLPP is not the right path. SLPP has a chance of strenghten itself, if it admits its faults, and face Mr. Charles Margai with respect, so that Mr. Charles Margai could make a public apology for all the ills of the SLPP, and reconstruct the party. The SLPP is a nothern party. Think of Chief Kandeh Bureh and others were all SLPP. But the story of late Major Kula Samba,(may her soul rest in peace) is worse than any story of abuse in the country. The SLPP does not only owe the family of late Kula Samba an apology, but owes all Sierra Leoneans an appology.
Dr. Blyden please forgive me, if I wronged you, because you truly love Sierra Leone, you are legal minded, and you have a dream for the country, but attempting to redicule H.E., Dr. E.B. Koroma indirectly is just standing on the way of your dream. God bless you Dr.Blyden, and gives you guidance in leading Sierra Leone that you love.
ROLAND BALLAH
Subject: Re: What's New In President Koroma's Last Public Address
From: karen samura
To: All
Date Posted: 11:00:47 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: rks61203@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-75-73-104-43.hsd1.mn.comcast.net at 75.73.104.43
Message:
ADVISE TO DR. SYLVIA BLYDEN.
It is very unfornate that so called interlectuals could not make straight talks when they post their complains on the web site or on news tabloids. Dr. Sylvia Blyden pre-empted that H.E. Koroma,Knew about Mr. Tarawallie's action against her, and at the same time, defended, H.E. that she believe's that H.E. Koroma, did not know anything about Mr. Tarawallie's action against her. The whole story about what Dr. Blyden wants us to believe about H.E.'s personal character is confusing. I want Dr. Blyden to take one position on her opinion about H.E.Koroma. He is our president, and if we don't want him, or if he fails to deliver the goods, we have time to vote him out, comes the next election.The matter between Mr. Tarawallie and Dr. Blyden does not involve H.E.Koroma, but in many instances Dr. Blyden tried to bring in H.E. Koroma into it. We own both H.E. Koroma, and Dr. Blyden, therefore I truly want both to be respected. H.E. Dr. E.B. Koroma has impressed the whole world in his mattured politics and leadership. He has respect for the law, that is why he allows freedom of speech and the press in Sierra Leone. It is up to us Sierra Leoneans to interprete the message from the press. The balance sheet of the APC and SLPP is very simple to read, you don't need to be an ACCA holder. However, I personally hold Charles Margai in high esteem because he always attacks issues and not personalities. But he would hardly make it in Sierra Leone, because his house is divided against him.
Mr. Charles Margai is not contesting for chieftaincy, but for presidency. Therefore, with all respect, if the SLPP could not ignore the facts that both Charles Margai's Uncle and father were prime ministers , and treat Charles Margai as an individual, then SLPP will continue to suffer open political defeats in the hands of the APC that has clearly demonstrated that it wants all Sierra Leoneans to have a say in the country's governance. Dr. Christiana Thorpe has raised the bar so high that only true Sierra Leoneans can reach it. New Shaft, of late Buntinton Davies ( may his soul rest in peace) failed to regionalise the APC party, by always referring to late H.E. Dr. J.S. Momoh( may his soul rest in peace) as Binkolo palm wine tapper. But the truth is, Victor Foh and others lost all they had to defend the APC, and they are not northerners, as alledged by the former New Shaft. The difference here, is that Dr. Blyden is well educated, when compared to late Buntington Davies, therefore, I wish when she writes, let her just present the facts and not help us to interprete it, the public will interprete the facts. H.E. and V.P. Sumana are not only our leaders, but they are also are brothers of Sierra Leone. Let us critic them fairly, and at all costs. As for Sheka Tarawally, besides the matter between him and Dr. Blyden, which I claim to know nothing about, and would not like to comment, but still hold Mr. Sheka Taraally resputable as the only fearless journalist that attacked the murderous, NPRC-Strasser led government, and called them "villains or redeemers." We all agreed that the SLPP failed the nation that was why it was voted out. Therefore, if the APC fails the nation, it will also be voted out. The city of Freetown, where the popucace is more informed than Makeni, Kabala, Bo, or Kailahun is the laboratory for a sober party to make experiment of its leadership in in Sierra Leone. However, it is abundantly clear that, Freetown is not Makeni, or Kabala, or Bo, or Kailahun. A leader who is not able to make an impact in FREETOWN, is not a true leader of Sierra Leader. Therefore, George Herbert Williams if not attacked in his political journey, because he has come from the minority tribe in Sierra leone, he would take Sierra Leone to the promise land. H.E. Dr. E.B. Koroma has taken us across the Red Sea, and into the wilderness, but it is the V.P. Sam Sumana that will take Sierra Leone to the mountain top, where we shall see the promise land, and finally, Major George Williams will take us to the promised land of Sierra Leone, land of gold, diamonds, bauxite, rutile, cocoa, coffee, piassava, cattle.
Dr. Slyvia Blyden I wholeheartedly, apologize before you can ask me, if my comments offended you, but in many cases you have atttempted to redicule, President Dr. Koroma, and he has always allowed the public to make its judgement. Know that a leader whether bad or good is always chosen by God for a purpose, or a lesson. In Sierra Leone it is easier to make yourself a leader, than to make others leaders. Because you truly know what dream you have for the country, but you wlii never know fully what dream others have for the country. For instance, Dr. Christiana Thorpe has shown us her dream for the country, by fighting for herself and not make others, leaders. Dr. Sylvia Blyden, can you please make yourself a leader of Sierra Leone, you are very educated, very pleasant, or attractive, or has a beautiful personality, and comes from a reputable family. Can't you lead us? Fighting for the failed SLPP is not the right path. SLPP has a chance of strenghten itself, if it admits its faults, and face Mr. Charles Margai with respect, so that Mr. Charles Margai could make a public apology for all the ills of the SLPP, and reconstruct the party. The SLPP is a nothern party. Think of Chief Kandeh Bureh and others were all SLPP. But the story of late Major Kula Samba,(may her soul rest in peace) is worse than any story of abuse in the country. The SLPP does not only owe the family of late Kula Samba an apology, but owes all Sierra Leoneans an appology.
Dr. Blyden please forgive me, if I wronged you, because you truly love Sierra Leone, you are legal minded, and you have a dream for the country, but attempting to redicule H.E., Dr. E.B. Koroma indirectly is just standing on the way of your dream. God bless you Dr.Blyden, and gives you guidance in leading Sierra Leone that you love.
Subject: Re: What's New In President Koroma's Last Public Address
From: zakmal
To: All
Date Posted: 09:00:55 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-178-217-6.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.178.217.6
Message:
I want to thank you very much for your report from freetown with regards the president's speech in which he said nothing. I'm afraid that this investigation has been compromised and let's just wait for the next NOLLE PROSIQUI. It also saddens me that some journalists are APC first and nothing else matters. You are right that if this incident had occurred anyway in the west you would have seen some decisive actions from the head of state. if thisis not handled right it would damage mother sierra leone irreparably.Our country is worth more than a few individuals.
Subject: Re: What's New In President Koroma's Last Public Address
From: mahawa kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 09:36:23 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: mkamara38@msn.com
Entered From: 5ac2f8ea.bb.sky.com at 90.194.248.234
Message:
okay, i agree with everything you guys are saying. but come on are we
comparing USA and Britain to Sierra leone , who happend to have just
come out of being uder the regime of a curropt government. the countries
in the west are far more developed and equipped to handle such cases.
for all we know this could have been an inside job. i think we have not
given the new governement time to show what they can do. i think we all
need to rememebr that the present governement has about tens work to
do and all can be done in one day
Subject: Re: What's New In President Koroma's Last Public Address
From: zakmal
To: All
Date Posted: 09:59:52 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-178-217-6.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.178.217.6
Message:
Mahawa It seem taht you are trying to implicate the previous government whilst giving a pass to the present one. It is ok to be a partisan,but we should be looking at the big picture regarding mother sierra leone which is not owned by any party. This case should be a test case on how to move forward with the rule of law. This concept is responsible for the survival of the westren countries you mentioned. I get very frustrated when it is said that we can't practice democracy the way westerners do, I beg to differ. People in africa has the same aspirations as westerners do. They want freedom and respect for human rights. I hope one day we will have a true democracy in our beloved mother sierra leone.
Subject: WARNING LETTER.
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 07:49:59 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-231-21-144.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.231.21.144
Message:
WARNING TO “MAJOR RICO”.
Mr.self made “Major”,I am sending you this little note seriously warning you to rationalize the fact this forum is a very serious place for very serious and creative writings.
It is not meant for self serving and head grabbers like you to come create an ocean of confusion for people who want to learn everyday especially on our country.
Yesterday,you needlessly injected yourself in the Bangura saga with the purpose of trying to impress upon us that you have become the latest Alpha and Omega of academia by impeaching the integrity of posting that you cannot relate to.
You sought to embarrass me by attempting to paint me as posting something that was untrue.I gave few simple questions on personalities on the very army you claimed you rose to the rank of “Major”,but your stupid and vain glorious self failed the test miserably.
Let me tell you this,anything I put my name after it I will stand by it all the way.I don’t get into trivialities and that explains why I do not attempt to write on any subject or person that I do not know fully well.I speared you the vituperation I had stored for you out of respect for the sense of protocol of most of our readers.However in future if you attempt to undermine the integrity of any postings by me,please make sure you have irrefutable proof to the effect or else,be prepared to face my wrath.
That is all I have to tell you.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Re: WARNING LETTER.
From: Dokta. Nahim
To: All
Date Posted: 08:27:47 07/23/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-67-244-6-35.nyc.res.rr.com at 67.244.6.35
Message:
KUTUBU wrote
"Providence was on the side of the nation through the timely intervention of Patrick Conteh and Emadu Rogers who deposed the military administration of the NRC ON April 18,1968,and handed the reins of political authority to Stevens.Bangura became chief of staff of the army.It was shortly thereafter,that he launched his most brutal attack on the eastern part of the country with devastating consequences second only to Pol Pot ,Idi Amin,Robert Mugabe,and Samuel Doe.His goal was to carry out a Kosovo type ethnic genocide"
MOHAMED KUTUBU KOROMA USA
Major Rico replied...
You are evading the facts of the matter my friend.
You claim that Bangurah was assigned to DC chancery and I say he was posted to NY mission
Then you claim that it was Roger's and Conteh's ACRM that handed over power to APC in 1968 ..I say it was Bangurah's NIC
Afterwards you accuse him of pogrom against Mendes in 1968 and I argued that because Sierra leone did not become a repubic until 1971, a military expedition clouded by such violence is more the responsibility of the commander in Chief or the head of government than the head of the military who is subservient to their authority….
Mr. Kutubu you cannot forcibly impose your flawed thinking upon people to believe unsubstantiated narratives of the past …..
In the end,Forumites and the world will judge our positions on the history of Sierra Leone regardless of what we personally think…..because our posts speak volumes.
I encourage you to revisit my post in your quiet moments and stay focused on the fact regarding John Bangura and the Army of Sierra Leone……..
Historians and scholars, you be the Judges!....Looks like we have a cra$e man scholar on board! where is Dr. Nahim
Subject: Re: WARNING LETTER.
From: Benji
To: All
Date Posted: 08:32:38 07/23/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-255-234-6.washdc.east.verizon.net at 71.255.234.6
Message:
Me man, watin mek u don begin call Kutubu craseman? Oonu lef dis pikin bizness. Leh we talk issues.
Subject: Re: WARNING LETTER.
From: Kandapa
To: All
Date Posted: 09:48:29 07/23/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-74-73-181-134.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.73.181.134
Message:
You nor see say nar im first begin curse en threatin di man way ee try for correct am?
...
It appears that you are one of those unprogressives afflicted with "you brother does no wrong" syndrome.
I encourage you speak the truth and be free!or at least remain silent for god's sake!
Subject: Re: WARNING LETTER.
From: Move On
To: All
Date Posted: 08:15:22 07/23/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-255-234-6.washdc.east.verizon.net at 71.255.234.6
Message:
please drop this matter. don't let it become an obsession. It's good to know when to move on.
Subject: Government's Power
From: Question
To: All
Date Posted: 04:52:16 07/23/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-156-216.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.156.216
Message:
Has Government got the powers of anulling a case of private prosecution?? If yes - it is fine, and if no then why was a Nolle Prosequi lodged by Ministry of Justice/Attorney General's Office,in the matter of Presidential Spokeman Sheka Tarawalie Vs Miss Sylvia Blyden??
Subject: Politics of tribalism in Sierra Leone...Stop it.
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 04:09:10 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: soriejawara@verizon.com
Entered From: pool-151-200-244-230.res.east.verizon.net at 151.200.244.230
Message:
Tribes and trabalism existed in Africa way before Moses freed the slaves in Egypt, and TRIBES AND TRIBALISM EXISTED IN Sierra Leone before colonization. The important thing to understand is how the words are used and applied. It is not wrong of any person or persons to be tribalistic if this is done for beneficial purpose only. Why do we have tribal organizations in the U.S.A. and in Sierra Leone ? Simple answer is to help each other and improve living conditions. Is there anything wrong in that course, in my opinion absolutely nothing. Since that action is generally accepted , therefore it is tribalism. The same word tribalism is destructive when tri becomes three(..tri..bal..ism) with malice, envy jealousy and viciousness.This second part was used by some politicians and some individuals to create confusion and chaos, foreign interventions created a wide gap between tribes and it promoted tribalistic( tribal) wars. You have come across words such as hostile, friendly and paganistic tribes. In the early political history of Sierra Leone many people cared less about the tribal origin of the leader or the political party because it was not important or considered any strong reason for affiliating with a political party, but we experienced changes after the death of Sir Milton Margai. The drastic change brought about Mende party,Temne party , creole party and others. Many people moved away from the concepts of political parties as they were designed to the concept of political parties based on tribalism. A good example is the scramble for representation in parliament, the slogan became " my tribesman not his tribesman" , therefore politics became corrupted and began moving in the direction of creating dens for political parties based on destructive tribalism
Subject: Re: Politics of tribalism in Sierra Leone...Stop it.
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 11:42:16 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: soriejawara@verizon.com
Entered From: pool-72-75-93-230.washdc.east.verizon.net at 72.75.93.230
Message:
SETTLER, re-read and and understand or are you saying fancify it and make it sound like soul music? No.... because my point is clear and understanding.Sorry no spice or polishing is required.
Subject: Re: Politics of tribalism in Sierra Leone...Stop it.
From: Settler
To: All
Date Posted: 07:55:30 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: tyrone@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache4.nccr.epa.gov at 134.67.6.14
Message:
What in the world are you trying to say Sorie?. Your elevator doesn't seem to be making it to the top floor.Words ought to be a little spicy, they are seasoning for thought to the unthinking. Try again Sorie, but this time please add some meat to it.
Subject: letter impeaching the integrity of a military service .
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 01:23:19 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-231-21-144.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.231.21.144
Message:
OPEN LETTER TO “MAJOR RICO”IMPECHING HIS CLAIM TO MILITARY SERVICE IN SIERRA LEONE.
Mr.Fraudstar,frankly,you have forced me to do this.It is never my intention or my modus operandi but sometimes,the likes of you should be thoroughly brought down and put in your proper places like in the discipline of Chemistry that opined “LIQUIDS KNOW THEIR LEVEL”.
When I wrote about that hopeless drunkard and skirt chasing inept coward moral degenerate who passed himself off as army chief of staff, Bangura,apparently,you took offence to that because he was either your tribes man or you were just one of his errand boys.
The fact of the matter is that I have been following the Sierra Leone army since the headship of Brigadier R.D.Blackie down to another hopeless drunkard named Joseph Saidu Momoh.
The only people in the army that I did not know,are all the boys that came with Strasser in 1982.Frankly the only person in the NPRC that I knew and know up to this day is Col.Dr.Akim Ajibola Gibril.As for Bio,I think one of his brothers Amidu Bio is far older than him who is my age group.So,from Strasser on down who were members of the council in uniform,I am by far older than all of them.
Now as for the officer corps,im personally know or knew the following officers:
Joseph Saidu Momoh.As a major,he had a small car of Japan made WR1527 that often came to Abbot street,in search of women.
Sheku Mohamed Tarawali then a Major,
Sam King,then a Lt.
Abu Noah then a Lt.also with Toyota crown deluxe WR.9099.
Tom Caulker,Bockari Idrissa Kaisamba,
Sandi Bockari Jumu,
Augustine Charles Blake,
Ambrose Patrick Genda,
Wilfred Yamba Kanu,
Jusu Sanoh Gottor,
Modibo Lymon,
Lansana Mohamed Sheku Turay ;ND,848,
Sheku Kandeh,
SIM TURAY,
Abdul Rahman Kamara,
Sahr James Foyah,
Mohamed M.Koroma,
Julian Sam Boma,
Abdul Rahman Turay,
Modu Hanciles,
Morgan Kamara,
S.E.MOMOH,
Josiah,
Tom Caulker,
Larry LightFoot Boston,
M.D.Bangura,
Demby,
Joy Toure,
Zenurine Othman Mahdi,
Amadu Mahdi,
Anderson,
Patrick Lambert,
Sammy Conteh,
Tony Conteh,
Bennedict Kargbo,
Amadu Kargbo,
Michael F.O.Spencer,
Robert Koroma,
Almamy O.Kamara,
D.D.K.VANDI,
Humprey Swarray
Kosia
Pobie,
Hassan Conteh.
Let me just stop here in terms of naming the officers.Wilberforce ,Juba,and Murrat town military barracks were familiar grounds for me.I made sure I studied the structure of the army by going close to some officers including Ahmed B.Thoronka who became deputy to Tarawalie on the retirement of Sam King.
So I don’t know what armed you served or when but believe me,I knew about the army that existed before the advent of the NPRC than you will ever learn or know.There are other officers I did not name in this project because I have given quite a little bit for you to know that the army then was not strange to me.
My advice to you is to pay attention to my postings and learn from them so that you don’t present your self as an ignoramus as you have just done here.
I am prepared to answer any challenge you may throw at my assertions.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Re: letter impeaching the integrity of a military service .
From: Major Rico
To: All
Date Posted: 20:10:01 07/23/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-67-244-6-35.nyc.res.rr.com at 67.244.6.35
Message:
Kutubu Wrote....
"Joseph Saidu Momoh.As a major,he had a small car of Japan made WR1527 that often came to Abbot street,in search of women."
I know for a fact that Major JS Momoh owned a white Peugeot 404 when he was CO First Battalion....
It was after he became force commander that he was known to own a mercedes,while his wife had a 250 Nissan estate car.
Subject: Re: letter impeaching the integrity of a military service .
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 21:34:12 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-231-21-144.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.231.21.144
Message:
It is very possible he got that subsequently.He was seen in this car while he was staff officer to Col.Jumu who was the first battalion commander while at the same time,Augustine Chalres Blake was Principal staff officer class one.
Captain Foyah had a VW,and was married to Musu Kaisamba although they went their different ways.
Captain Boma had a black car.All ofthose officers frequently came to 20 Dan street in the east end of Freetown when Mohamed Lungi was alive.
Subject: Re: letter impeaching the integrity of a military service .
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 07:48:08 07/23/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.208.81
Message:
I say this with deep concern: that the haughtiness of your postings and the gruffness with which you put down Major Rico reflects badly on you. It smacks of intolerance and a flatulent pomposity that actually hides a pusillanimous mind. You can state your worthy opinions, some of which I have found informative and educative, without the braggadacio, the preening, crowing and chest-beating. Frankly, that childish beheviour just gets in the way of your scholarship. Chieee!
Subject: Re: letter impeaching the integrity of a military service .
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 08:00:45 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-231-21-144.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.231.21.144
Message:
Mr.Uman Lappa,you have fundamentally missed the point.No one claims intellectual monopoly here .Not me the least.However,when you attempt to review any postings,do it with the realization that you know what you are doing.
The fellow challenged the integrity of the posting on Bangura which was all well and good.However,when he was asked to come up with something to prove that he knows what he is talking about,he failed the test.It was only an attempt on his part to showoff.I am not not above corrections,but all the same you should know the subject matter before you attempt to impeach the integrity of others.By what he did,he raised substantial doubts in the minds of most readers.Had another gentleman not come to my rescue last night to corroborate the key points in the posting,this self serving fellow was prepared to damage me in the eyes of the readers.By no means i am not the best contributor on this forum.There are people who can write far better things of intellectual nature than i will ever do or have done.I also learn every day from the postings on the forum.I do not have time for self seekers.Plain and simple.
Subject: A quotation impeaching the tribalistic nature of Kutubabu
From: Who the cap fit?
To: All
Date Posted: 01:56:49 07/23/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
"When I wrote about that hopeless drunkard and skirt chasing inept coward moral degenerate who passed himself off as army chief of staff, Bangura,apparently,you took offence to that because he was either your tribes man or you were just one of his errand boys."
(Mohamed Kutubu Koroma)
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But you see in and out of Sierra Leone, you have a segment of frustrated, misguided, and hopeless nincompoops who always fall on "tribes" and "tribalism" when they have woefully failed in all their undertakings.
These are the sorts of people who always resort to "tribes" and "tribalism". Those that have managed to scrape through with some sort of educational paper or the other are usually too old to be employed overseas. They end up working in factories, driving cabs or doing security jobs with their dilapidated PhDs.
By Morikeh Fofanah
Jul 22, 2005, 18:36
Subject: Re: A quotation impeaching the tribalistic nature of Kutubabu
From: Mohamed Boye Jallo Jamboria
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Date Posted: 06:25:03 07/23/08 ()
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Kutubu Koroma,
I would want to subscribe to what you say as I know the men you have refered to and to this one,Ibrahim Morikeh Fofana(IMF as we used to call him) elder brother of Mbaba Fofanah late of Mobil.We lived in the same house at 234 Bai Bureh road,Wellington for over three years and can tell you much about him and his family.He is a socialite and can be nice if he want to.He is also a radical and we were very close.
On late Bangura that was why I asked in a previous postingthat we findd out the reson for the coup but one commentator posted and right enough ,that coups cannot have a justifiable reason without looking at the angle of what factor was used as an explanation for that unconstitutional act.That coup as far as I know and can summarise was the begining of political collapse in Sierra Leone instigated by some loacal and foreign concrens who were not in favour of Stevens renegotiating the contracts of mining of DELCO and SLST which Stevens had embarked on by then.It was this same reason that saw the delink of the Pound from the Leone rendering our economy useless and Stevens having to go to the Special Drwaing Rights of the IMF and since when we have but misery and hardship and war.
As to the character of the officers I want to point out that,I believe , it is part of the military culture almostt globally-they all womanise,drink and so on.They also like to have their pictures taken.I do not know why but may be it is because they are conscious that their lives may end any time in the battlefield.
Let us stop this issue of tribe and Let us work for ONE SA LONE and PROGRESS!
Subject: Re: A quotation impeaching the tribalistic nature of Kutubabu
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
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Date Posted: 06:33:48 07/23/08 ()
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Sir,i entirely agree with everything you have said here.
By nature i am very uncomfortable talking about tribes.People who know me around here will disagree with any one who accuses me of tribalism because i am definately not.The fact however remains that we should call thigs as we see them instead of attempting to twist the facts.On this forum,any one who decides to post information should restrict himor herself to nothing but the truth.
I hope this fool takes a cue from this.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
Subject: Re: A quotation impeaching the tribalistic nature of Kutubabu
From: NOW
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Date Posted: 22:56:09 07/23/08 ()
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First and foremost, the correct spelling of that word is DEFINITELY and not DEFINATELY. Having said that, you may not be comfortable talking about tribes though not too many of us here will believe you. Besides, you are close to retirement now and are the perceived old Mendeman who sees all and every politics shaded with tribe.
Finally, you seem to be very bitter with people you don't agree with. Have you ever met someone you like? Are you a husband or have you ever been married? I very much have my doubts if you are now or ever been married. Have a very lousy day old man!
Subject: Take note Moderator!
From: Bai Bureh Kamara
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Date Posted: 01:14:52 07/23/08 ()
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The guy who is posting as Bai Bureh is not the original but a big phoney who is adept in trouble making.He is bent on tarnishing the name of the great father of Sierra Leone and so should not be allowed to.
For your information the real Bai Bureh has not been frequent lately in the forum because of professional commitments. He is too busy in the industry trying to make a name for his country. Please anytime anyone posts as Bai Bureh check the email or ip address before allowing it to see the light of the day.Thanks.
Subject: OPEN LETTER TO RICO
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
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Date Posted: 00:09:07 07/23/08 ()
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OPEN LETTER TO “MAJOR RICO”
It has been half an hour since I put your knowledge to test about the army which you clamed you were a “Major” but you are yet to respond.
Some body who had served in an institution should not take an inordinate of time coming up with any questions asked of that body.
From your unintelligent posting,you meant to test me.Unfortunately,you picked the wrong person.Let us even assume you ever joined the army at all,I am sure you did so toward the dying months of Momoh when they were looking for conscr1pts.Nothing gives me indication that some one of your ilk rose to the rank of Corporal let alone a Warrant officer class two.
I will advice that you learn from my posting about Bangura who was not fit to hold a commission in the army in the first place,let alone serve as its chief.Because of his unprofessionalism,unsound leadership,and lack of administrative sagacity,Stevens systematically made him look like a buffoon in the mold of Idi Amin.That was why he bungled a military operation that cost stupid officers like himself who blindly followed him to their death.
I challenge you to reveal your proper identity if you were really the “Major” you clamed you were.Professional officers like Capts Sam Boma,Gbondo,Lt.Sammy Conteh,and COL.Lansana Turay have never gone by aliases but their true identities which they are very proud of.
In future be very circumspect when you choose to reply to any of my postings and do not attempt to impeach their integrity because I will really let you look like the biggest fool.
Do you think I will stupid like you to publish things I cannot substantiate?.Why don’t you provide the answers to very simple questions I asked you almost an hour ago?
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma.
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICO
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 01:44:11 07/23/08 ()
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I believe that the facts as stated by Major Rico are as I recall them It was the National Interim Council that handed over power to the constitutionally elected government of the APC. Please do not deny that because it is a fact of history.
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICO
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
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Date Posted: 01:53:25 07/23/08 ()
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Mr.Iscandri,no body has denied that.I only took him through the process before we got to the NIC part of it.
First,Conteh and Rogers removed the NRC on APRIL 18,1968,invited Bangura and Genda who inturn reconsituted the ACRM TO NIC which in nine days handed power over to Stevens at State House.
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICO
From: Jarro
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Date Posted: 08:17:02 07/23/08 ()
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Are you denying this thrash you wrote?
"Providence was on the side of the nation through the timely intervention of Patrick Conteh and Emadu Rogers who deposed the military administration of the NRC ON April 18,1968,and handed the reins of political authority to Stevens.Bangura became chief of staff of the army.It was shortly thereafter,that he launched his most brutal attack on the eastern part of the country with devastating consequences second only to Pol Pot ,Idi Amin,Robert Mugabe,and Samuel Doe.His goal was to carry out a Kosovo type ethnic genocide"
MOHAMED KUTUBU KOROMA USA
If you deny,then you are certainly a mental case and I would encourage people not to waste their precious time with a madman!
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICO
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
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Date Posted: 09:03:30 07/23/08 ()
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Alright taking it as granted,the fact remains that it was the collaborative effort on the part of Rogers and Conteh that gave rise to the NIC.Yes,finally Bangura along with Genda and by extension Conteh and the rst of the leaders who removed the NRC were also part of the new dispensation.
It was just an honest mistake which i stand to be corrected.Onthe question of what Bangura did in the East,no one is going to argue against that.More so,it happened before April 19,1971.He started his genocidal mission in the very 1968 against the people of Kailahun district.He was no longer part of the political process after March 31st,1971 because he was in confirment.Also,Stevens was tipped off about Bangura's involvement even before he made his last visit with him at home before that fateful event.
As far as i am concerned,i am moving on to other issues.This matter is over for me plain and simple.
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICO
From: Major Rico
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Date Posted: 01:00:34 07/23/08 ()
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Neither my service to Sierra Leone nor your academic qualifications are the case in point here.
You are evading the facts of the matter my friend.
You claim that Bangurah was assigned to DC chancery and I say he was posted to NY mission
Then you claim that it was Roger's and Conteh's ACRM that handed over power to APC in 1968 ..I say it was Bangurah's NIC
Afterwards you accuse him of pogrom against Mendes in 1968 and I argued that because Sierra leone did not become a repubic until 1971, a military expedition clouded by such violence is more the responsibility of the commander in Chief or the head of government than the head of the military who is subservient to their authority….
Mr. Kutubu you cannot forcibly impose your flawed thinking upon people to believe unsubstantiated narratives of the past …..
In the end,Forumites and the world will judge our positions on the history of Sierra Leone regardless of what we personally think…..because our posts speak volumes.
I encourage you to revisit my post in your quiet moments and stay focused on the fact regarding John Bangura and the Army of Sierra Leone……..
Good Luck.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
Obviously, history allows the systematic narrative of past events, however I believe that every narrative should be based on information that existed or occurred instead of grounds insufficient to produce certainty of what actually occurred.
I take umbrage at your history of Brigadier John Bangurah because most of what you allege is contrary to known facts.
Partick Conteh and Emadu Rogers Anti Corruption Revolutionary Movement(ACRM) overthrew Juxon’s National Reformation Coucil(NRC) and handed over power to Bangurah’s National Interim council (NIC)……it was Bangurah's NIC not ACRM that handed over power to APC.
You also claim that Bangurah was sent to the Washington Chancery but I believe he was posted to New York.
Then you allege that Bangurah launched a Brutal attack upon Mendes in South Eastern Sierra Leone.....impossible because Bangurah was force commander who was subject to the authority of the Governor general who represented the queen as Commander in Chief….where does the buck stop in that circumstance?.....That a Bangurah led Army was used to quell political disturbances, i think was the government's responsibility.
You also mentioned that Stevens got word in advance of Bangurah's plot but did not specify….not true!..The fact is Bangurah was an inebriate that was estranged from his wife who was a relative of Major Momoh and other senior officers….. therefore his consequent marriage to Jemilleh an Afro Lebanese woman who had strong links to Henneh Shamel a Lebanese diamond dealer deported by Stevens became the last straw in a perfidious suspicion of his political purposes and schemes by those he was associated with.
In addition to that Bangurah had a habit of violating protocols by storming cabinet and other private meetings conducted by the Prime Minister…sometimes ranting in his drunken stupor to security guards who would attempt to intercept him that the APC was forever obligated to him for his NIC handing over power to them.
Matter of factly,unlike the Lansana and Kai Kai plots there were no known finks in the Bangurah plot.
The fact is Bangurah was being monitored day in and day out by Cpl Foday Sankoh a signaler who had been deployed into Bangurah’s security detail by Major Momoh at the behest of Prime Minister Stevens even before he conjectured a coup plot….and every surviving officer who served in that era at the First Battalion will attest to this fact.
While I applaud every attempt to analyze our political contradictions of the past, it would help if all the narrative or analysis are based on information that existed or occurred and should not be biased or based on hear say.
Thank you,
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICO
From: Farrah Marrah
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Date Posted: 10:40:08 07/23/08 ()
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Major Rico,
You wrote "The fact is Bangurah was being monitored day in and day out by Cpl Foday Sankoh a signaler who had been deployed into Bangurah’s security detail by Major Momoh at the behest of Prime Minister Stevens even before he conjectured a coup plot….and every surviving officer who served in that era at the First Battalion will attest to this fact."
Your statement is either ironical and or interesting.
Was this the Cpl. Foday Sankoh who was imprisoned for the Bangura coup and who led the RUF?
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICO
From: Major Rico
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Date Posted: 12:49:26 07/23/08 ()
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You are correct!....and Stevens sparing Sankoh from the hangman's noose in a treason trial only goes to prove that he was a valuable player in the calculated process to get rid of Bangurah.
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICO
From: Farrah Marrah
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Date Posted: 14:07:09 07/23/08 ()
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Major Rico,
The history is getting VERY INTERESTING.
Why did Sankoh use the date of the failed coup March 23, (1971)to invade Sierra Leone twenty years later in 1991 (March 23)?
Please indulge me.
Thanks.
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICO
From: Major Rico
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Date Posted: 16:05:45 07/23/08 ()
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Even if I knew, it would be quite foolhardy to discuss such matters without privilege...but honestly my friend, I don't know.
You should understand that the points at issue were......
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First,Whether it was Conteh and Rogers' ACRM as he posits or Bangurah's NIC like I challenged,that handed over power to Siaka Stevens' APC in 1968.
Then “he said” that Bangurah conducted a pogrom against Mendes in South – Eastern Sierra Leone……and I said that just because Bangura was neither head of State nor Head of Government, charges or responsibility for government's alleged malfeasance should not be rested squarely on his shoulders..
And after he formely stated that some sojas ratted on Bangura and I disputed that the rats were perfidious plants.
Please,et us focus on the conflicts in the points we contend if you wish for responses from me.
Thank You.
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICO
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
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Date Posted: 11:03:51 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
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At the risk of appearing as an interlocutor,i will say this for fact.One of the problems associated with the politics of Sierra Leone has to do with twisting the facts either for cynical expediency or tactical considerations.In that case,it impacts our ability to discern reality for emotion.
This whole as i narrated on Bangura started back when along with Tarawalie and others were arrested shortly before the March 17,1967 general elections on suspicion of attempt to subvert the administration of Albert Margai.From thence on,there was bad blood flowing in his veins for anything that has to do with Mendi;s and SLPP.This evening thank god i am off today,i will ask the permission of one of the people from Kailahun district to use his name on this forum as a living witness to the horrors and sheer criminal brutality of Bangura's seneless carnage directed at the citizens of the Kailahun communities shortly he and his buddy regained power.The man was full of hate for those people.Stevens knew what he was doing but because he needed his support to stay in power so he gave paradoxical comfort and solace to his Mugabe/Idi Amin mentalities.Foday Sankoh was a photographer from what i was told so he could not possibly be one of the security men to Bangura.Besides the point,it was not Stevens who decided the security imperatives around the army chief of staff.I think the army had a department that handled internal security.Just like the military assistants they usually assigns to the heads of state.It is the senior officials in the army or police who decides who should be ADC to the Governor General or the president foe that matter.T5he fact of the matter simply is that this is a well orchestrated campaign to down play the monumental personal incompetence of an individual who would never have made it past the rank of Captain in professional armed forces in either Ghana or Nigeria that had people like Vatsa,Gerber,Gowon,etc or Afrifa, Ocran Orderty-,and Roger Feli.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICO
From: Major Rico
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Date Posted: 16:26:05 07/23/08 ()
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My Wife is from Kailahun and I am certain that her Family and all her Kinsmen I am acquainted with do not share your view on Bangurah!
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICO
From: Farrah Marrah
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Date Posted: 16:36:19 07/23/08 ()
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It seems as if there is more to the RUF.
Thanks Major Rico.
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICO
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
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Date Posted: 01:48:37 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
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Fellow,you really dont know what you are talking about.What is at issue has nothing to do with academic qualifications or lack thereof.
You seem to be injecting yourself in a debate that you dont have a clue to.
Every body who comes from the East very well knew what that stupid and hopeless drunkard did to them especially Kailahun district.What is there in this simple statement that you dont understand and you claim to have served as a "Major" in the very army badly misled.Bangura inaddition to his public drunkeness and prostitutious life style was very reckless and lawless also.I seriously believe you were a small child in 1968 so you cannot relate to the political events.I said,it was Conteh and Rogers that prevented Stevens,Bangura,and Seoku Toure from invading the country by force of arms.What is akso hard for you to understand here?Why do you keep coming with this ludicrous assertion that i want to impose my views on you?.The fact of the matter is that i dont want to to distort or twist the facts because you want your name to appear on the forum.Why dont you manly like myself here to reveal your true identity?What are you hidding?Only criminals hide under assumed names.It is one thing to say you dont like the things written about Bangura.It is however an entirely different to attempt to misconstruct events as you seem to be doing and refusing to accept facts.The Diplomatic posting clearly stated that he was transfer here in DC and not in New York because Fred Balogun Savage was head of Chancery in New York so it is not possible to have two officials as head of Chancery in an Embassy at the same time.I am sure Mr.Olu Harding who was also in New York by that time will prove that Bangura was not assigned in New York.
You appear to be one of those they call incorrigible fellows who will never be redeemed from your monumental ignorance and i am simply not going to waste my time on some body like you.I have other things i need to concentrate on and you can remain with your ignorant self.
When all is said and done,Bangura was a gatering threat to the national security of the nation because of those things i have pointed out and Stevens saw no need to see him put the nation through the political quagmire he did in March 1971.Little wondered he was put to death by Stevens because i have never come across a brain dead fellow such as John Bangura.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICO
From: Major Rico
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Date Posted: 16:34:53 07/23/08 ()
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Do you Know Gabriel Bangurah?.....Bangurah's Kinsman and former soldier who Bangurah took to New York as his driver? ....
When I say that John Bangura served at the UN Mission in New York and not the SL Embassy in Washington D.C. I have proof.
Let us produce the facts!
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICO
From: Uman Lappa
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Date Posted: 07:33:11 07/23/08 ()
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MKK, as usual, you are letting your ego get in the way of what could otherwise have been a pleasant read. Your take on history may NOT BE THE ENTIRE STORY HERE and Major Rico has a right to fill in the gaps in your narrative as he sees fit. I think the name calling is ludicrous and gratuitous.
Cheers.
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICO
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
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Date Posted: 08:07:43 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
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Provided who is filling the gap knows what he or she is talking about.
Subject: Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas Legos MaMie Cuss
From: Shameful
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Date Posted: 19:42:45 07/22/08 ()
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Posted by CHIEFDOM POLICE on July 22, 2008 at 08:20:28:
In Reply to: Re: Kutubu Koroma will attack anyone who praises Abdulai Conteh! posted by Mohamed Kutubu Koroma on July 22, 2008 at 05:33:18:
"Frankly this guy has been exposed as an academic fraud in the Awareness Times by lots of us when he presented a fraudulent letter from the late Dr.Mohamed Fornah.
It appears to me that he is one of those fellows totally bereft of sheer human decency,self respect,and moral rectitude.
I fail to see emotionally or rationally how any body would want to bask in another person's efforts.
I will rather prefer to write very poor english and be very original in conception than to write the Oxford english of another person's work.
The guy simply is an academic fraud who do not belong to this forum."
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Again, because of the comprehesion issue that you suffer from, you failed to defend the trash that you wrote above. I provided you with the original article that was posted to let you know that your comment was unjustified. Accordingly I have no choice but to say, "MOHAMED KUTUBU KOROMA YOU MAMIE EN BOMBO, BASTARD PEKIN" for tarnishing my record!
Subject: Where is the academic fraud, pray tell!?
From: Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas
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Date Posted: 21:42:09 07/22/08 ()
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Kutubu Koroma will attack anyone who praises Abdulai
Posted by Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas on July 22, 2008 at 01:10:25:
Posted by MOHAMED kUTUBU kOROMA, on July 21, 2008 at 09:42:08:
In Reply to: Re: Dr. Abdulai Conteh has made Sierra Leone very proud! posted by concern on July 21, 2008 at 09:34:54:
Frankly this guy has been exposed as an academic fraud in the Awareness Times by lots of us when he presented a fraudulent letter from the late Dr.Mohamed Fornah.
It appears to me that he is one of those fellows totally bereft of sheer human decency,self respect,and moral rectitude.
I fail to see emotionally or rationally how any body would want to bask in another person's efforts.
I will rather prefer to write very poor english and be very original in conception than to write the Oxford english of another person's work.
The guy simply is an academic fraud who do not belong to this forum.
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Dr. Abdulai Conteh has made Sierra Leone very proud!
Posted by Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas on July 21, 2008 at 00:18:47:
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DR. ABDULAI CONTEH IN LINE FOR CHAIRPERSON OF AFRICAN UNION
The Commission of the African Union has announced the names of the candidates for Chairpersons, Deputy Chairpersons and Commissioners for the Union. There are six candidates for the position of Chairperson. Amongst them is the eminent Sierra Leonean jurist and diplomat, Dr. Abdulai Osman Conteh, current Chief Justice of the Caribbean Commonwealth State of Belize.
Dr. Conteh who graduated LLB (Hons.) from Kings College, London University and Kings College, Cambridge, where he was an athletic blue, was at one time a Member of Parliament, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of Finance responsible for financial policy, and served on the Interim Committee of the International Monetary Fund, Attorney General and Minister of Justice, and 1st Vice President and Minister of Internal Affairs & Rural Development in the Republic of Sierra Leone. Between 1977 and 1983 he led the Sierra Leone Delegation to the UN General Assembly and on several occasions served as Vice President of the Assembly and Chairman of the OAU Council of Ministers.
His professional skills and expertise include extensive graduate studies in International Law, extensive practical knowledge of law and international affairs, diplomacy and business. He has also had over ten years professional practice of law, both as a private legal practitioner and government lawyer and as an academic, a professor of law at the University of Sierra Leone.
Since January 2002 Dr. Conteh has been Chief Justice of the Caribbean Commonwealth of Belize; where he is in charge of the Judiciary and presides in civil, criminal, constitutional and commercial cases. He is also a member of the Board of Trustees of the Caribbean Court of Justice, Senior Advisor of the World Space Foundation in Washington DC, Senior Political Affairs Officer for UN Transition Administration of East Timor and has acted as consultant on strategy for collaboration between World Space Foundation and the UN Secretariat and UN System.
Dr. Conteh has participated in numerous international conferences such as the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meetings (CHOGM) the Non-Aligned Movement, meetings of the Organization of African Unity (now the African Union); where he was a prominent member and participated in its committees to resolve the Western Sahara Dispute, the Libya/Chad Dispute and the Ethiopian/Sudan Dispute.
Dr. Abdulai Osman Conteh is an erudite scholar who has written and contributed to several international publications such as African and International Legal Provisions for the Peaceful Settlement of Disputes - Disarment, Vol.22, No 1, Pg 44, Winter, 1988/89, The Protection of Interests of Members and Creditors, Administration Orders and the Insolvency Act 1992 (The Bulletin of The Gambia Branch of the African Society of International and Comparative Law) Issue No.5 December 1994 and the Sierra Leone Constitution 1991 -book of Essays.
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For more information Dr Conteh can be contacted by email on chiefjust@btl.net
By telephone. 501.223.0482 (home)
501.227.4387 (office)
501.227.4375 (fax)
Editor's Note: We wish Dr.Conteh the best of luck so that God can avail him the opportunity to serve Africa in a different capacity. Upon receipt of this release, The Editor of The Gambia Echo called the lawyer- scholar and was able to confirm from him, that in deed, his name has been submitted as a candidate for the African Union Chairmanship. I first encountered Dr. Conteh in The Gambia fifteen years ago when he was in partnership with Fafa Mbai. He was generous enough to sponsor so many Gambian High School students that I profiled in the Point Newspaper but would not want it published. The last person he sponsored before I left The Gambia was a student at the St. Augustine's High School called Ousman from Essau village in the North Bank. When Yahya Jammeh came to power in 1994, he deported Dr. Conteh from The Gambia.
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Subject: Even the head of the Church, when he was harassed, CURSED!
From: Chiefdom Elders
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Date Posted: 21:09:31 07/22/08 ()
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And when he was gone out into the porch, another maid saw him, and said unto them that were there, “This fellow was also with Jesus of Nazareth.” And again he denied with an oath, “I do not know the man.” And after a while came unto him they that stood by, and said to Peter, “Surely thou also art one of them; for thy speech betrayeth thee.” Then began he to CURSE and to SWEAR, saying, “I know not the man .
(Matthew 26:71-75)
Subject: Re: Even the head of the Church, when he was harassed, CURSED!
From: Chiefdom Pastor
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Date Posted: 21:22:52 07/22/08 ()
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0NE day, Jesus and His apostles arrived at a place called Caesarea Philippi. There Jesus asked His apostles this question, "Who do men say the Son of Man is?" This was the name by which Jesus often spoke of Himself.
They answered Him, "Some say John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets." Then He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
Jesus said to Peter, "Blessed are you, Simon Peter, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father in heaven. And I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
By these words Jesus promised to make Peter the head of His Church. Keys are a symbol of power. Jesus meant that Peter was to have power to rule His Church.
Subject: Kabs Kanu is the best
From: Town Crier
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Date Posted: 18:50:55 07/22/08 ()
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You can like him or not, but the fact is that Kabs Kanu is the best journalist we have . Did anybody catch Kabs Kanu's flashback today on the front page of cocorioko ? I am sure even President will be impressed.
Subject: Re: Kabs Kanu is the best
From: Town Crier --The real one
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Date Posted: 08:19:17 07/23/08 ()
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Please desist from using the handle Town Crier...it is already taken, and should not be sullied by comments such as those posted under the false one...go fen u yone..
Subject: Re: Kabs Kanu is the best
From: Town Crier
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Date Posted: 08:23:31 07/23/08 ()
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I am the original Town Crier from the Liberian Africa Online Forum.You stole my handle, sir.
Subject: Re: Kabs Kanu is the best
From: Whatever
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Date Posted: 03:24:32 07/23/08 ()
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Kabs Kanu is the best to the half educated APC dimwits whose
cocaine infested brains do not know the difference between a journalist
and a blogger.
Any idiot can set up a website, especially when you are being
sponsored by drug money, as we now know.
Subject: Re: Kabs Kanu is the best
From: j
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Date Posted: 18:57:46 07/22/08 ()
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i am suprise that kabs kanu is the best, a religious man reverend by the way he cannot even control or monitor his forum although its a public forum but as a proprietor of this news forum allowing people to use MAMY COS its a disgrace, to all sierra leoneans
Subject: Re: Kabs Kanu is the best
From: Forum Police
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Date Posted: 19:50:19 07/22/08 ()
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You are a liar. We are busy whole day deleting bad stuff from this forum.If there are profanities, we haven't seen them yet.
Subject: Re: Kabs Kanu is the best
From: Eyes
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Date Posted: 03:15:09 07/23/08 ()
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Because you have your eyes up your anus
Subject: The Tribalist Bra Enviable is Back
From: HASSAN KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 17:50:40 07/22/08 ()
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The tribalist Bra Enviable is back
I was not surprise to see such a posting from Bra Enviable, and in fact more will come from one of Sierra Leone’s intellectuals who has transformed himself into hatred against the Northerners in particular and the APC in general. Bra Enviable ask yourself why your chronic SLPP failed to retrieved Yenga. If you don’t know let me tell you the answer. First, it was a consideration for the assistance they gave your chronic SLPP to murder innocent Sierra Leoneans to bring back your party. Second, Tejan Kabba is a Guinean and that he will eventually return to Guinea sometime to enjoy his loot, and the place he will like to settle is Yenge. I stop so far till I hear from you.
Subject: Re: The Tribalist Bra Enviable is Back
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq.
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Date Posted: 01:38:01 07/23/08 ()
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Mr. Kamara Bra E is not a tribalist, he is a nationalist although these days he is more partisan, more like a "yeliba" singing the praises of the erstwhile kickedc out and discredited government of the SLPP. A partisan? that he has been over the past few days. A Tribalist that he is not. That term can more readily be used to describe some of those that BRa E hates with a passion. I know them because we have talked about them and I promised that I will not reveal who they are and I will stick to my promise. Bra E represents more the progressive wing of the APC than he does the retrogressive wing of the SLPP.
In another life Bra E was APC how much you wanna bet. He is my brother, my demia and I know him well
Subject: Re: The Tribalist Bra Enviable is Back
From: Bra Enviable
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Date Posted: 09:26:39 07/23/08 ()
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In another life Bra E was APC how much you wanna bet.
By Alphaa Alieu.
_______________________________________________________
Alphaa Alieu, are you recruiting for the APC?
Nar waah for you!
Subject: Re: The Tribalist Bra Enviable is Back-For Alpha Alieu
From: Hassan Kamara
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Date Posted: 05:07:49 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: KAMSON10@HOTMAIL.COM
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Alpha,
My comments were based on the perception i have about just from reading his postings.To be honest i don't know, i have never seen him nor do i have any contact with him. I always read his postings because of his charismatic writing style but when going deeper to the contents you will realize that his message is more of a tribalistic one which tend to divide us than uniting us. I respect your opinion about him since you know him better. By the way i have met two people that indicated to me that they know you too well. One is in Maryland and the other is in California. Their names start with F. If you want to know more, then send me an email at kamson10@hotmail.com. Stay bless Alpha
Subject: Re: The Tribalist Bra Enviable is Back-For Alpha Alieu
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 10:36:56 07/23/08 ()
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Hassan my brother, I have never met with Bra E in person, however we speak to each other very often and have been doing so for almost two years. I have a fel for him and my take is that he is far from being a tribalist. I think that we should think very long and hard before we take the position that people are tribalist. I know the tribalists amongst us and if you want to see them in action take a trip to Leonenet TAMU and there you will find people who you can label as Dangerous Tribalist. Bra E is a Natinalist
Subject: Re: The Tribalist Bra Enviable is Back-For Alpha Alieu
From: Tamba Moiwo
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Date Posted: 08:41:19 07/26/08 ()
Email Address: moiwo@hotmail.co.uk
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"if you want to see them in action take a trip to Leonenet TAMU "
Bo na sour grapes. Way den kick you sorry ass outta dae place you go round bad-mouthing other people--so you norto tribalist?Nor mek we pull da hole shebang na doe--go easz now ole boy!
Subject: Re: The Tribalist Bra Enviable is Back
From: False Accusation
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Date Posted: 21:12:19 07/22/08 ()
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What has Bra Enviable said to qualify him as a tribalist? Can you quote him to prove your point? You guys will throw dirt at anyone who does not kiss the butt of the APC. Right? I hope Bra Enviable avoids falling down to your low level by not answering you.
Subject: Re: The Tribalist Bra Enviable is Back-For False Accusation
From: Hassan Kamara
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Date Posted: 04:54:58 07/23/08 ()
Email Address: KAMSON10@HOTMAIL.COM
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Mr. False Accusation,
I am not on the forum to use obscenity but to put my point accross, and i will not fall prey to that as a result of your response to my posting. Let me inform you that all the postings that i have read so far that were the handiwork of Bra E were ittelectually in nature but were at the same time tilted against northerners and the APC. If you asking me to prove a point please go to cocorioko archieve and review them. You also mentioned that an opposition to the APC is seen as a treat to all APC supporters and sympathizers. Let me also inform you that my own support to the APC has nothing to do with someone opposing the party in a constructive manner that will be of benefit to my country. My country is first and then APC next, i will therefore be in favor any meaningful criticism.
Subject: CAN TEJAN KABBA BE PROSECUTED?
From: opinion
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Date Posted: 17:31:50 07/22/08 ()
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Do you think that that Tejan Kabbah deserve to be prosecuted for crimes against humanity? if not and why.
Subject: Re: CAN TEJAN KABBA BE PROSECUTED?
From: Lawyer
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Date Posted: 18:07:17 07/22/08 ()
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Which crime??? and which humanity???
Subject: Re: CAN TEJAN KABBA BE PROSECUTED?
From: kinny Brima
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Date Posted: 17:37:21 07/22/08 ()
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Yes. In my opinion Chief Hinga Norman did not act on his own. He was the scape goat of the SLPP or the SARA for for them, should i say.
Subject: Re: CAN TEJAN KABBA BE PROSECUTED?
From: Adu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 18:43:59 07/22/08 ()
Email Address: adu@yahoo.com
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Technically the Special Court can indict him for war crime. His government policy was to retored him to power by force. In the process many innocent people were brutally murdered. He encouraged the murdrous and canibalistic activities of the karmajors by financing, feeding and arming them. These weapons were used by the kamarjos to maimed, rape and killid people. Hinga Norman was only second in command. You can tell why Ahmed Tejan fought hard to avoid appearing as witness to Hinga Norma because he could have increminated himself. Yes he can be tried for war crime.
Subject: A new line of thinking is in order
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 17:12:27 07/22/08 ()
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Please bear with me for a minute as I suggestively delineate the plausible mode(s)in which the funds needed for financing the development of our nation can be generated without the preponderant input of our so-called development partners to whom we shall be eternally grateful for coming to our rescue in the past.
Let me start by first asking the following question(s):
How does one effectively govern, and develop a heterogenous nation with thirteen different tribes/cultures whose population of about five million peoples is 30% literate, 70% illiterate, 50% undernourished, 78% living below the poverty level; a nation with very weak infrastructure [clean water, electricity, transportation systems are in disrepair], with a legacy of a very brutal war still persisting, and a colonial history of enslavement by these so-called development partners; a nation that is very richly endowed with natural resources that have NOT been managed properly for the benefit of the inhabitants in terms of development, and material comfort in their daily livelihoods?
To answer to this question very effectively NEW IDEAS must be conceived and debated. New thought processes must be put in place with regards to the mode(s) of governance, the generation, management, and distribution of our national wealth.
1. Governance and Politics
Presently, as is the case with many nations in Africa, our nation is governed through "pluralistic democracy" involving core regional partisanship. Apparently, this mode of governance has not really paved the way forward in terms of our development in the modern world. We seem to be at a post-independence standstill, if not worse off, relative to our development as a nation. We must therefore start to think along the lines of defacing this concept, and replacing it with a concept that closely matches our indigeneous cultural attributes, and resources, very positively. Let us strive for a nation that is lacking in political partisanship as it relates to what we now know about that concept.
To do so, we must start by replacing regional partisanship as is clearly embedded in our political participation with a system that is more culturally innate for our political governance and equitably satisfactory to all the cultures in our heterogeneous society. This perception is clearly the reason why our cultural social clubs, such as FPU, KDDA, BDA, Tegloma, Sakoma, and many others are relatively successful. [For some reason Ekutayism denotes a very bad connotation in this regard. This is not what I mean]. Please allow me to expound a little bit on this topic further:
In contrast to what the idealists might believe, we cannot uphold the whole by disintegrating the parts. We must accept the reality that SaLon consists of a hetrogeneous society. By strengthening the pockets of homogeneity in our diversity, it is quite possible that we may be in a better position to buttress the heterogeneity pertinent to the whole. Contrary to what the idealists may believe, the parts support the whole. The motivation to succeed as exemplified, and illustrated by the activities of the aforementioned social clubs is achieved through the cultural innateness focussed by members of these groups. And through the leaderships of these groups it is possible to coalesce ideas, make fruitful contributions, and enable meaningful participation by everyone interested in enhancing our national governance on a proportional footing in this new democracy.
The democracy we are currently trying to practice is very suitable for homogeneous societies based mainly on Western / Greco-Roman ideas. We must modify it in practice to encompass that which is innate in us as far as our traditional cultural attributes are concerned. From developmental, and psychological perspectives, this modification will help to accelerate the attitudinal changes needed for us to work together in uplifting our nation.
We have paid too much attention to the ideas imposed on us from afar in governing our nations in Africa, and in SaLon particularly, forgetting that we, as Africans, had viable civilizations before we allowed the "aliens" to take over. The evidence in point is readily accessible when one considers that our nations were very stable economically, and otherwise under colonial rule.[I am NOT advocating for the recolonization of African nations]. But no sooner we achieved nominal independence than the systems started to unravel. The reason for this may not be unconnected with the fact that the governors during colonial times imposed their own systems of governance on us, and we willingly or unwillingly towed the line, and swallowed the bait and the sinker. And it goes without stating the fact that the colonialists were very adept at these imposed systems, and clearly, we are not.
There is no indication in this declaration that we must totally abdicate from the systems imposed on us, but we must endeavour to inject, and infuse our indigeneities into our governance, taking the beneficial aspects of the imposed systems, and throwing out, or replacing the bad aspects in order for our development in this modern age to bear fruits.
2. Generating the funds needed to fast-forward our development
I visited this topic a few years ago on one of the forums that serves our national interests. To revisit this topic in a more cogent way, let us address the mining sector for a minute:
We are abundantly endowed with many minerals that are precious to us and the rest of the world, but we lack the ability to mine, manage, and convert these minerals into the cash flow needed for national development, instead we depend on, and allow non-indigenes to benefit from the lion's share of the cash flow, while our folks bear the brunt of the sufferings/poverty, in exchange for a mere pittance through taxation at 3-5%.
How in God's name can anyone allow a stranger to control his/her bank account, and complain to the residents of his/her home that there are no funds to make repairs to the home when a hurricane strikes, especially when the home was not insured at the time of purchase? In a similar vein, why are we lacking in generating the funds needed for our national development in the presence of the vast mineral deposits/resources we are told we are endowed with?
Forget about the diamond, gold, bauxite, etc. deposits for just a second. The rutile deposits alone should help tremendously in generating the funding finances needed to develop our country, if value is added to these mined deposits. But oh yah! we have to get 'massa' to bring his knowledge and know-how to exploit these deposits at out detriment with the collusion of our so-called leaders for a trickling pittance they use to misgovern our folks oberyanda. No wonder mama queenie wears the biggest diamonds on her crown, yet there are no diamond mines in her country of origin. How did that king from Belgium/Brussels develop that country with hardly any natural resources originating from there during colonial times? Know-how, and slave labour?
The point is, we must take control of our vast resources ourselves. If the manpower, and technology, are not now readily available to us, we must commit ourselves to the training of this manpower to at least mine these resources for sale on the open market in the short term, and in the long term train the manpower, and develop the infrastructure needed to add value to these resources.
The military must be allowed to play a key role in this effort. We must get the soldiers out of the barracks so that they can relinquish their sedentary functions under the auspices of this so-called IMATT. We must put this group of very disciplined folks to work for the nation in this regard. Afterall, they ain't goona redeem Yenga from the Guineans any time soon, are they? What good has all this expensive investment in their lot done to help the nation? Heck! they cannot even be relied upon to stop the narco-traffickers from landing near their garrison at Lungi. What then are they good? Nothing?
Let us put these soldiers to work in supervisory roles in mining, forestry, agriculture/farming, sanitation, etc., etc. And allow the Navy, with her two vessels, to supervise the fishermen, and the trawlers. The SLP can continue her internal security role. Time is being wasted while the problem of poverty lingers on.
To conclude this piece, it is my contention that if we can control and manage our natural resources adequately, ourselves, we can generate the funds needed to develop ALL the other sectors needed for nation to be considered to be a modern state, ultimately, through industrialization.
I hope I have not bored y'all.
Kind regards to one and all.
Subject: Re: A new line of thinking is in order
From: KLA
To: All
Date Posted: 16:06:18 07/23/08 ()
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This must be the real chief Sengbe
""The point is, we must take control of our vast resources ourselves. If the manpower, and technology, are not now readily available to us, we must commit ourselves to the training of this manpower to at least mine these resources for sale on the open market in the short term, and in the long term train the manpower, and develop the infrastructure needed to add value to these resources.
The military must be allowed to play a key role in this effort. We must get the soldiers out of the barracks so that they can relinquish their sedentary functions under the auspices of this so-called IMATT. We must put this group of very disciplined folks to work for the nation in this regard. Afterall, they ain't goona redeem Yenga from the Guineans any time soon, are they? What good has all this expensive investment in their lot done to help the nation? Heck! they cannot even be relied upon to stop the narco-traffickers from landing near their garrison at Lungi. What then are they good? Nothing?
Let us put these soldiers to work in supervisory roles in mining, forestry, agriculture/farming, sanitation, etc., etc. And allow the Navy, with her two vessels, to supervise the fishermen, and the trawlers. The SLP can continue her internal security role. Time is being wasted while the problem of poverty lingers on. ..." sengbe
The current GOSL could use some of your advice and truly speed things up. The present global boom in the mining sector,may not last.
Dem day make lek pikin dem. Dem betteh wake up.The Latin American dope boys do not play!!
HOW about drug testing for govt.Employment. There are rumors of addicts in high places!
tstm
Subject: Re: A new line of thinking is in order
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 11:04:03 07/25/08 ()
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"...The current GOSL could use some of your advice and truly speed things up. The present global boom in the mining sector,may not last.
Dem day make lek pikin dem. Dem betteh wake up.The Latin American dope boys do not play!!..." KLA
Bra norto the word dat. Instead dem jus day snuff ehn smoke da ting day. We sorry oh!
Bra KLA karbor for the foresight. Nar valley man normor geh den kine vision yah so. We must persevere.
Best regards, me man.
Subject: $10 Million Bounty For Drug Suspect!?!
From: Sam
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Date Posted: 16:02:59 07/22/08 ()
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Is this for real? Where exactly will the govt get that money.
Subject: Re: $10 Million Bounty For Drug Suspect!?!
From: Treasury
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Date Posted: 03:28:06 07/24/08 ()
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Forst of all, we shall get Our drugs back from IMATT, and then sell it in local market for USD100 million.Out of this 10 million dollar bounty will be paid.
Subject: Re: $10 Million Bounty For Drug Suspect!?!
From: Source
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Date Posted: 09:34:04 07/23/08 ()
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The $10 million for the chief suspect shows that the SLPP was behind that man clandestine activity to bring drugs into Sierra Leone.
The suspect is a notorious trafficker. I am told he was a financial for the SLPP during the last elections. Imeediately, the APC won, he changed sides thinking that he will still be protected by the APC top guns.
Well for some of you who do not know this chief suspect; he Police want him in North America, and Europe. Some of these guys are in Freetown driving drug related cars.
I believe strongly that during the SLPP era, Sierra Leone was a conduit for cocaine trafficking because of its close contact with this suspect.
More to come
Subject: Re: $10 Million Bounty For Drug Suspect!?!
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 10:28:19 07/23/08 ()
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So what do you say-- if i said that Ahmed(Mohamed)LAJ, GKI, CIB were always seen with YOUR VP.
And that Ahmed financed the APC's drug-elections campaign. That during elections, the same plane landed in magburaka- TWICE off-loading DRUGS. Also, how about the Hotel opposite BUNKER on the BEACH at LUMLEY...that Gibril Kamara-GKI paid 1.3 million Euros to a Construction Company in Freetown - during the REIGN of APC.
Finally.. that the CREW of this DRUG-PLANE was CAPTURED at the HOME of KEMOH SESAY- the APC Minister, whose brother happens to be Ahmed--oops Mohamed Sesay...
Subject: Re: $10 Million Bounty For Drug Suspect!?!
From: ariph sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 16:41:32 07/22/08 ()
Email Address: stoicriph@yahoo.com
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Message:
commanda ariph[former MIL.POL.CMMDR.WEST-SIDE]
the slp don't even have a budget like that for 5 yrs.then a bounty of that on a well connected guy.
who's fooling who?o'bai,acha,sam or kemoh?
do the equation.
LONTA...........................................
Subject: Re: $10 Million Bounty For Drug Suspect!?!
From: kinny Brima
To: All
Date Posted: 16:57:04 07/22/08 ()
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The equation is Scotland yard and FBI = more money for this investigation. WAITMAN NOR DEY PLAY FOR THE TRUTH.
Subject: Re: $10 Million Bounty For Drug Suspect!?!
From: ariph sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 16:44:09 07/22/08 ()
Email Address: sesayariph1@gmail.com
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hey,
bra 60 or 100 mill.na plenty money.leh we find buya 4 the loot and invest the money into farming.plenty buya then dae.
any seconder
Subject: Re: $10 Million Bounty For Drug Suspect!?!
From: Plaba Bessie
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Date Posted: 16:20:40 07/22/08 ()
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GK has long since fled Sierra Leone, and this is a local warrant which is not enforceable via interpol. In essence, it is showboating for the sake of it. The government knows it cannot afford Le3 billion for catching GK.
Subject: Re: $10 Million Bounty For Drug Suspect!?!
From: Uman Lappa
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Date Posted: 16:24:11 07/22/08 ()
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It is not showboating at all. EBK is deadly serious about curbing this drug scourge. The money, I suspect, will be provided by Britain and the United States. A wise investment on their part indeed to stamp out the drug transit points in West Africa.
Subject: Re: $10 Million Bounty For Drug Suspect!?!
From: man lappa
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Date Posted: 16:40:22 07/22/08 ()
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Message:
count me in.I will be heading to banjul with uman lappa to cash in the ten
million dollars.maybe candid opinion can call some few friends to locate
this good for nothing fool.
Subject: Re: $10 Million Bounty For Drug Suspect!?!
From: bobsonmans
To: All
Date Posted: 05:55:08 07/23/08 ()
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A bounty without the suspect's picture? Will those who have any leeway with the APC government appeal to them to splash pictures of the wanted persons to help with their capture. I guess the response all over the world will be overwhelming. Some of their trails are obvious.
Subject: Yenga, Shyenga!
From: Hammer
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Date Posted: 15:57:58 07/22/08 ()
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Why should we be bothered with this Yenga place? We can't even feed our people and here we have some people wanting to rush to war over Yenga, Please! Even the citizens of Yenga do not want to fight over Yenga. Lansana Conteh can keep Yenga and smoke it. That patch of wasteland is not worth the aggravation.
Poor people, beware of the arrogance of reckless nationalism. Let's strengthen our economy before making Yenga an issue.
Subject: Re: Yenga, Shyenga!
From: thomas manna
To: All
Date Posted: 16:10:46 07/22/08 ()
Email Address: thomas@hotmail.com
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Message:
You must be a Guinean trator like former president Ahmed Kabba. We will get Yenga and prosecute the pirates in Yenga.
Subject: Re: Yenga, Shyenga!
From: Hammer
To: All
Date Posted: 16:30:45 07/22/08 ()
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If you want to fight the Guineans over that patch of desperation called Yenga, by all means go ahead and make my day. Some of you quaff your six-pack beers, over-eat and talk like brave warriors and think you are African Petraeuses. If you volunteer for Yenga, I will form a brigade and go fight with you, O brave one.
Subject: Save the palm trees for sweet palm wine and oil for soap
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 15:31:14 07/22/08 ()
Email Address: soriejawara@verizon.com
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When first S.L.P.P. fell.. bam ..bam..on the hard rocks , old men and women had slight bruises and strong backaches, a little serious though funny. My friend pa Aluseni H. Kandeh's palm tree was the last in the north uprooted by the powerful but gentle A.P.C. hirricane. Young A.P.C. supporters in Koinadugu almost had me laugh my gutts out. Yes, it was a grand funeral ceremony , twelve strong men carrying a palm tree to its grave, oh wah funny ceremony under a hot burning sun. The funniest of all the events happened in 1985, Sierra Leone was importing palm seedings( dwarf and improved variety) from Ivory Coast and spending unreasonable amount under the IAP. S.L.P.P. has again received good knockout bangs and " one by one the palm trees are falling as moments come and go" , with president Koroma on the leading chair ,how many palm trees will survive? Remember , protect the palm trees though S.L.P.P. is out and it will be for a long time, 10 Or more years. If you disagree , tell me why you believe S.L.P.P. will come soon.
Subject: Re: Save the palm trees for sweet palm wine and oil for soap
From: Kinny Brima
To: All
Date Posted: 16:51:02 07/22/08 ()
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They will come back because they are the most educated.
Everyone loves them even their victims. (Late Kula Samba and co).
They are the only ones destined to rule Salone and no other group of people can.
It is a Biblical command for them to hold on to power and don't let no one else closer to it.
Sir jawara, if you have all these qualities, why don't you think will come back?
Subject: Re: Save the palm trees for sweet palm wine and oil for soap
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 21:15:22 07/22/08 ()
Email Address: soriejawara@verizon.com
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Kinny, How soon will it happen, ironically you made good points, but increased thinking. Remember, doctor party, lawyer party,richman party ..all did not solve the problem. S.L.P.P. (BIG MEN PARTY ETC) will come back when they stop depending on the army and other units . They should learn how to catch a little fast child running under the hot sun.. Nodding in hamocks and raising hell over nothing will not rescue S.L.P.P. soon. Thank you .