Subject: Dr. Curtis is an agent of goalkeeper
From: Detective Tom Lepski
To: All
Date Posted: 11:47:53 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: ishharkato@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: c83-248-235-239.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.235.239
Message:
This guy is abusing freedom of expression by flouting forum rules.He is bent on promoting goalkeeper's secret agenda of destroying this forum.He should be closely watched for complying to forum rules and thrown out by the collar in the case of non-compliance.
According to reliable sources he was in the AT forum where he was humiliated by an all powerful foulah forumite who he knows very well.Dr.Curtis influenced the goalkeeper to expel this forumite even though he created most of the problems in that forum.
Subject: Uman Lappa, you na labo labo man!
From: Gold Digger
To: All
Date Posted: 10:46:38 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-246-222-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.246.222.82
Message:
Uman Lappa--(aka Fen Plaba!) you are creating animosity on the forum. Are you the rules or scores keeper? Why did you have to incite Kabs to delete my post? Grow up man! Stop acting like a whimp. No forum thuggery will be tolerated okay? If you want a fight, I'm ready 200%.
Subject: Re: Uman Lappa, you na labo labo man!
From: ANTI VIRUS-
To: All
Date Posted: 10:56:19 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: sabbok2003@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 83.229.112.21
Message:
we are tired of fignting.Fools donot know how to solve their problems so they solve it by fighting.
Subject: Re: Uman Lappa, you na labo labo man!
From: Foolulu
To: All
Date Posted: 11:01:26 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-246-222-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.246.222.82
Message:
Foolulu aka Uman Lappa, you are the real big cocaine fool on the forum. When I said "fighting", I was not referring to your modus operandi of throwing piss and human waste at your opponent, nor did i mean taking up a machete for boo-la-tay purposes. Your thinking is seriously flawed either by substance abuse or the trade thereof.
Subject: Re: Uman Lappa, you na labo labo man!
From: SALIFU PAPAH
To: All
Date Posted: 11:07:01 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: sabbok2003@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 83.229.112.21
Message:
i have some wild Bulls in my farm, can you just fight with them and tell me the strongest amongst them? "I will pay you don't worry"
Subject: Kabs why did you delete my opinion about AT?
From: Gold Digger
To: All
Date Posted: 10:35:25 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-246-222-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.246.222.82
Message:
Kabs...please don't try to be over protective by deleting my post. No names were mentioned, even though Awareness Times was cited. It's a matter of fact.I understand you are trying to be "clean" but there should also be room for stating the facts.
Subject: Re: Kabs why did you delete my opinion about AT?
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 10:57:24 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h164-44-67-4.chubb.com at 164.44.67.4
Message:
I am getting really tired of this. Didn't we all agree that the two forums must discourage the idea of forumites attacking the respective proprietors to avoid the forums dsecending into chaos ?
Yor statements did not mention a name but since it was made under a thread dealing with AT, anybody would assume you were referring to the Proprietor.
I am not trying to be clean. I am just tired. Tired with you all. Tired with everything Sierra Leonean.
Subject: Re: Kabs why did you delete my opinion about AT?
From: sory kandia
To: All
Date Posted: 11:23:46 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 70-11-243-218.area7.spcsdns.net at 70.11.243.218
Message:
I was always thinking about that,you are not only tired with sierra leoneans but you are discouraged for the capture of the cocain plane,and you will not get your share.Where were you before announcing your IMPORTANT RETURN?
Subject: Re: Kabs why did you delete my opinion about AT?
From: Golden Girl
To: All
Date Posted: 11:07:27 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Comm'on Kabs, I understand your frustration especially in dealing with gadflies like us-Sierra Leoneans. But on a friendly note, please don't get worked up on this. Keep your health intact and not try to stress yourself, big bro. Leadership can sometimes be frustrating but hey, you can handle it coz I know you.
Subject: SLPP Loyalists, Give Sierra Leoneans A Break
From: Neutralist
To: All
Date Posted: 09:29:36 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-64-73-106.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.64.73.106
Message:
The most credible account of the activities that led to the latest brawl between the two major parties is from the Standard Times Newspaper. From the Standard Times version, there are many factors, which a reasonable mind cannot overlook. Standard Times confirmed that the opposition’s office was attacked. Standard Times also reported the incendiary and rabble-rousing behavior against the Mayor of Freetown by presumed SLPP members that led to the attack.
The reporter stated that, “On Tuesday, 12th August 2008 the action of the alleged SLPP supporters intensified when they reportedly blocked Mayor Herbert Williams on his way to the office.” Lacking the AWARENESS of Newton’s third Law of Motion, “For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction,” SLPP members faithfully continued affronting the Mayor. The Mayor’s supporters had an unsuspecting response to the offensive posture of SLPP members. Their response led to the invasion of the opposition’s office, and the subsequent drama at the State House.
SLPP loyalists, give Sierra Leoneans a break.
Fracas within SLPP led to a divided and fragmented party going to the General Elections and loosing it big time. Only a fool will believe that SLPP has healed and regrouped this soon. It is a party going through the political grieving and mourning process. There are also multifaceted layers of discontent and animosity within the party that are yet unresolved. The false sense of unity and oneness is damaging the party and the nation as a whole. Instead of honestly trying to resolve the fundamental issue of leadership within the party, the party is trying to discredit the current leadership of Sierra Leone. Twisted logic. How can SLPP tell Sierra Leoneans who is fit to lead when they failed to fairly select a presidential nominee? SLPP cannot justify putting Sierra Leone through another mess because of the party’s infighting.
SLPP loyalists give Sierra Leoneans a break.
Reading Pro-SLPP News portals several poignant questions are raised. What is their embedded fascination with Kemoh Sesay? Did SLPP journalists stealthily profit from the cocaine business in Sierra Leone? Was their Newspapers setup from cocaine financing camouflaged as profits from legitimate services? Why so much sensational reporting that distorts actual events to incite revolt and violence in Sierra Leone? It may read cute, but it is truly appalling that SLPP journalists would circumvent the high ethical principles of their profession to create mayhem in the nation. This tendency is narcissistic and can result to innocent lives being lost. We must question the ethics and integrity of reckless journalists whose intentions are geared toward disunity and chaos in Sierra Leone.
SLPP loyalists give Sierra Leoneans a break.
Fallay’s comments were irresponsible as the new leader of SLPP North America. He came in holding a “big stick.” In life, it is important to pick your fights. He showed poor qualities as a national leader by putting out an insidious statement without verifying his facts. Fallay needs to be more careful with his choice of words when addressing national issues.
In trying to copy the well-designed plan and implementation of the APC North America branch, SLPP is acting hastily and jeopardizing peace and stability in Sierra Leone. The party should not forget that APC did not formulate a comeback victory overnight, or in ten months. It took years developing a strategy while peacefully serving as the opposition.
President Koroma did not win his first time out but he did not start unnecessary chaos in the nation. As a peace loving Sierra Leonean, he served patriotically putting the interest of the nation first. For Koroma at the time, he could have triggered sedition in the north. He did not go to Kabbah every time something went wrong in his party. He warned his people against being ‘crybabies’. He encouraged togetherness and hard work to unseat SLPP. It was done peacefully. SLPP needs to stop creating chaos in the nation.
SLPP loyalists, give Sierra Leoneans a break.
TAKE TIMEOUT. Heal from your traumatic defeat in both the General Elections and the just concluded Council Elections. Cease from the clandestine activities of instilling fear in the nation and then pointing the fingers at APC youths. If the party is going to regain power in Sierra Leone, let it be through peaceful means. Cease from sidestepping natural political processes and evolution. Be a good opposition and stop blackmailing the ruling party and its leadership for your failures. Regroup! Reorganize! Refocus! Restructure! Your ascendance to power in Sierra Leone by all realistic estimates is going to take at least ten or fifteen years. President Koroma will be re-elected in 2012. And his successor?
For the moment, SLPP loyalists should give Sierra Leoneans a break from the party’s drama. There are serious matters regarding national development that SLPP is obstructing. Give Sierra Leone a break and live to pitch a serious comeback in 2017.
SLPP Loyalists, Give Sierra Leoneans A Break.
Subject: THIS SURVEY BY AWARENESSTIMES, IS IT CREDIBLE & RELIABLE?
From: Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas
To: All
Date Posted: 09:27:47 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: RNMDTWO@YAHOO.COM
Entered From: pool-96-255-102-206.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.255.102.206
Message:
"...BUT, if the survey of opinions by Awareness Times so far is anything to go by, then it is a fact that those who wanted to bring Kemoh Sesay down have failed. In the light of the above listed developments, Kemoh Sesay’s popularity rating is very high right now amongst his APC supporters. Another interesting development is that opposition supporters are already using the case of Kemoh Sesay as a campaign tool to highlight APC ungratefulness. This is the same way the APC once effectively used the Hinga Norman detention to campaign the SLPP as an ungrateful party."
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Surveys and thier results are part of our daily lives, and we use these results to make decisions that affect our lives. Some decisions may even be life changing. Looking at surveys WITH A CRITICAL EYE IS IMPORTANT. Before taking action or making decisions BASED ON SURVEY RESULTS, WE MUST determine whether those results are CREDIBLE, RELIABLE, AND BELIEVABLE. A good way to begin developing these "detective skills" is to go behind the scenes and see how surveys are DESIGNED, DEVELOPED, IMPLEMENTED, AND ABOVE ALL, ANALYZED.
The survey process can be broken down into a series of TEN STEPS, namely:
****** STATE THE PURPOSE OF THE SURVEY.
****** DEFINE THE TARGET POPULATION.
****** CHOOSE THE TYPE OF SURVEY.
****** DESIGN THE QUESTIONS.
****** CONSIDER THE TIMING OF THE SURVEY.
****** SELECT THE SAMPLE.
****** COLLECT THE DATA.
****** FOLLOW-UP.
****** ORGANIZE AND ANALYZE THE DATA.
****** DRAW CONCLUSIONS.
Each of the above steps present its own set of special issues and challanges, but each step is critical in terms of producing survey results that are FAIR AND ACCURATE. The above sequence of steps not only help design, plan , and implement a survey, but it can also be used TO CRITIQUE SOMEONE ELSE'S SURVEY!
Because "time is money"( in cardiology and in a case of a heart attack, we usually say "time is muscles"), and also because I am IN a rush to attend a wedding, I will be brief (did I hear you say, "brevity is wit"?)and examine JUST ONE of the above steps to show that this survey by the AWARENESSTIMES is fit only for the TRASH CAN!
"Kemoh Sesay’s popularity rating is very high right now amongst his APC supporters."(Awarenesstimes)
Straight off the bat, I can dismiss this survey as flawed because the "sample" NOTED ABOVE is "flawed". In statistics 000000000000001 one is taught that a FLAWED SAMPLE WILL INEVITABLY RESULT IN A FLAWED RESULT (did I hear you shout, "PERIOD!"?)
A good sample represent the target population, that is, the people of Sierra Leone, NOT SOME STUPID "His APC SUPPORTERS" What do we expect "his supporters" to say? Something negative? To represent the "target population", the sample MUST be selected from the target population, the whole target population,and nothing but the target population (did you say "So help me God"?). In short, the sample SHOULD BE REPRESENTATIVE of the target Population. So then, since the sample is not "representative" the survey result is flawed or BIASED.
Was the sample selected "RANDOMLY"? A random sample is one in which every member of the target population has an equal chance of being selected. To use "His supporters" certainly makes mockery of RANDOMNESS.
Was the sample used "large enough" for the result to be accurate? The answer is NO! A few hundred supporters( if that many)is not large enough in a population of several million!
In concluding, and I in no way intend to sound exhaustive, Since the AWARENESSTIMES' SURVEY has a very, very small sample size, and the sample is not representative, and the sample was not choosen RANDOMLY, I want to submit that the survey is BIASED AND ONLY FIT FOR THE TRASH CAN!
Subject: Re: THIS SURVEY BY AWARENESSTIMES, IS IT CREDIBLE & RELIABLE?
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 10:06:03 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Dear Dr. Curtis-Thomas:
My opinion of that newspaper as a terrible rag sheet full of lies and manufactured fiction remains 100% intact.
Guess which SL newspaper took bribes from a rival to deliberately paint me in vicious negative terms - all manufactured fiction including false quotes - before, during and after Makeni 2005 but nevertheless my true reputation remains intact?
Corrupt journalism will never succeed in fooling all the people. Our voting public is as vigilant as ever - especially in the swing districts. - JL
Subject: Re: THIS SURVEY BY AWARENESSTIMES, IS IT CREDIBLE & RELIABLE?
From: Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas
To: All
Date Posted: 10:18:40 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
"...Guess which SL newspaper took bribes from a rival to deliberately paint me in vicious negative terms - all manufactured fiction including false quotes - before, during and after Makeni 2005 but nevertheless my true reputation remains intact?"
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Hon. John Leigh:
It is always a pleasure to "hear your voice". I am happy to note that despite the mud slinging, your reputation (change that word to "self-esteem")remains intact. As Samuel K. Doe would say, " in the cause of the people, the struggles continue.
Take care, BIG GUY.
NUFF RESPECT, SIR!
Subject: Re: THIS SURVEY BY AWARENESSTIMES, IS IT CREDIBLE & RELIABLE?
From: Alpha Saidu Bangura
To: All
Date Posted: 09:57:13 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: saidubangso@aol.com
Entered From: 72-58-93-221.area3.spcsdns.net at 72.58.93.221
Message:
Curtis, my brother, the article in the Awareness Times newspaper does not mean anything in the criminal case against Kemoh Sesay. The APC police is investigating the case,let us wait for the out come. I know that very soon Kemoh will appear before a court.
This is not the first time corrupt and dishonest politicians are being branded famous or popular in our country. If you have a lot of money by unlawful means( the other names for Kemoh Seasy) and you distribute it to our poor and needy people, you will surely be popular in our nation. That is natural.
Let me use this opportunity to remind all members of this forum that "The worst way somebody can punish his/her self is by allowing your sentiments to surpass your reasoning ability".
Subject: Re: THIS SURVEY BY AWARENESSTIMES, IS IT CREDIBLE & RELIABLE?
From: freetownboy
To: All
Date Posted: 10:46:20 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: noreply@freetownboy.org
Entered From: 5ad28e0e.bb.sky.com at 90.210.142.14
Message:
Talking of surveys, please continue to fill out my non-scientific survey on the present status of the government. I will close the survey in 7 days, write a one page summary and publish it.
Background: Why am I asking the question?
Ans: It is imperative that we all focus on what matters to the majority of Sierra Leoneans and work towards achieving it.
Subject: Re: THIS SURVEY BY AWARENESSTIMES, IS IT CREDIBLE & RELIABLE?
From: Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas
To: All
Date Posted: 10:09:10 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-96-255-102-206.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.255.102.206
Message:
"...Let me use this opportunity to remind all members of this forum that "The worst way somebody can punish his/her self is by allowing your sentiments to surpass your reasoning ability"."
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Thanks for this brilliant "closing argument". We should not "allow our emotions to cloud our judgement".
Subject: Re: THIS SURVEY BY AWARENESSTIMES, IS IT CREDIBLE & RELIABLE?
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 10:16:49 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123
Message:
I concur. O'Bangu that was a thoughtful rendition. Eee look lek say marrade life fit you, bra. Stay blessed
Subject: Re: THIS SURVEY BY AWARENESSTIMES, IS IT CREDIBLE & RELIABLE?
From: Gold Digger
To: All
Date Posted: 10:13:58 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Doc., believe it or not, the editor of Awareness Times can do anything for SEX AND MONEY. This phony survey is nothing but another evidence of the exchange of money for propaganda. what a shame!
Subject: Re: THIS SURVEY BY AWARENESSTIMES, IS IT CREDIBLE & RELIABLE?
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 10:19:27 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
This is the kind of post that drives Kabs nuts. A coarse violation of the rules indeed.
Subject: Re: THIS SURVEY BY AWARENESSTIMES, IS IT CREDIBLE & RELIABLE?
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 10:32:37 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h164-44-67-4.chubb.com at 164.44.67.4
Message:
I have deleted his posts but if he insists on making such comments against the lady, his IP will be blocked.
Subject: Re: THIS SURVEY BY AWARENESSTIMES, IS IT CREDIBLE & RELIABLE?
From: Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas
To: All
Date Posted: 10:26:38 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Posted by Uman Lappa on August 16, 2008 at 10:19:27:
In Reply to: Re: THIS SURVEY BY AWARENESSTIMES, IS IT CREDIBLE & RELIABLE? posted by Gold Digger on August 16, 2008 at 10:13:58:
"This is the kind of post that drives Kabs nuts. A coarse violation of the rules indeed."
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YOU THINK WE ARE IN CHINA, WHERE FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS A LUXURY? OR UNDER THE RULE OF THE AFRC. YOU ARE STILL IN BONDAGE...WHAT A SHAME!
Subject: Re: THIS SURVEY BY AWARENESSTIMES, IS IT CREDIBLE & RELIABLE?
From: Gold Digger
To: All
Date Posted: 10:22:47 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Fen Plaba! are you a Kabs surrogate now? Eee tan lek say the global don mona oooo bra? Kabs is a man of God, and he knows the difference between fact and fiction. What I stated is a fact...
Subject: LEH GOD SEN AGBA SATANI BACK FOR SLPP DEM
From: SALIFU PAPAH
To: All
Date Posted: 08:12:24 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
" O GOD, SEND FOR WE BACK AAGBA SATANI DEM TRANGA YAES WAN DEM DON BEGINE BACK FOR PWEL WAITING DE APC PARTY DAE DO. DU YAH HEP WE"
Subject: We are nothing but truce-breakers
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 07:45:28 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h164-44-67-4.chubb.com at 164.44.67.4
Message:
I have returned to work. However, I cannot hide my disgust at the flagrant violation of our rules and regulations , as well as the truce between me and the Awareness Times Publisher.
I believe we all here know that there is an agreement that Sylvia Blyden and I should not allow our forums to be used to damage our respective names. The truce sounds reasonable to me because it is possible for people banned from her forum or those who do not support her writings to use this forum to spew their bile at her. Conversely, you people have seen how people banned from this forum used her forum to get at me in the vilest manner imaginable.
As time has demonstrated , there are supporters on both sides ready to resort to the most vulgar of attacks to revenge for their Editor. There is the tendency also for innocent relatives to dragged into it all. Then also, there are those troublemakers who create unnecessary mischief during these fights to cripple the forum.
I, in particular, cannot afford these kinds of scenerios because when they happen lots of people come out telling me that I am a Reverend and a Man of God and should not encourage these situations to arise. I have told you guys for the upteenth time that because of my position as a Rev. I cannot go the deep end with people even if I have the resources and ability to fire back appropriately (You all have heard the sing-song : Bra, remember, you nar Rev. You are a Man of God ).
And indeed as a Man of God, I don't want to be part of cat fights that descend to the level of mammy cuss. I believe no decent people does and I believe the other party too does not want to be part of it either.NO DECENT PERSON WITH HIS/HER MOTHER'S BLESSINGS WOULD LOVE A SITUATION OF UTTER CHAOS. That was why it was decided that we should guard our forums from personal attacks on each other by irate forumites.
I noticed thatin my absence the truce was broken BY YOU GUYS. You have to leave journalists alone. If Sylvia Blyden wants to write articles that are pro-SLPP , it is her business. Nobody pays her for her services. Similarly, if Kabs Kanu wants to write articles favourable to the APC, it is my business . Nobody is paying me for my services. Not even the APC itself is paying me. This is a free world. People have a right to identify with whom they want to identify. That does not mean that they are inciting indiscipline .It is just their perspectives and when will we start respecting people's right to self-determination ?
I am warning again. Leave certain names out of our forum in the interest of peace and tranquility , and a smooth-running forum. Those who refuse to obey should not blame us when they are banned.
Subject: IS GUINEA A FRIENDY NEIGHBOURING COUNTRY OR AN ARCH ENEMY???
From: Patriot
To: All
Date Posted: 06:01:55 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: longhorn1978@live.com
Entered From: 213-165-36-138.zajoulnet.com at 213.165.36.138
Message:
The Guinean authorities has been acting in a bizarre manner they have illegally occupied a portion of our territory which they claim was to stop RUF carrying out cross border raids and now 4 Guineans soldiers arrested in a hotel in freetown. What were they doing in Freetown? The authorities must interrogate them thoroughly to know what was there mission. Sierra Leoneans must not take these incidents lightly it is a security issue Pa Koroma after all what we have gone through we do not want anymore blood spilling I think its time we adopt the pre-emptive strike policy to deter countries abhorring would be anarchists, Turkey, Israel, Rwanda to name few we have seen Turkey chasing the PKK in Iraqi soil, Rwanda chasing Interarmwe in DRC its not that we want to look arrogant and aggressive but the interest of the people because Mr. President without a peaceful atmosphere business will not thrive
Subject: Our 'CURSE' lies in our disunity!
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 05:59:00 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.146.105.17
Message:
WE ARE A HOPELESS PEOPLE IF WE ARE NOT UNITED!
The saying goes: "The tribe that collects food and gathers it by the net full, will indeed, today and tomorrow see the gathered food overflowing – (a Mampa proverb) .
Sierra Leone has always had a reputation for hospitality. So this our country must always have been fruitful, the gardens well-tended, and fully able to support our ancestors' desire to build a better future, working together. Majority of the constituents comprising the population of Sierra Leone today are immigrants. We know that and that hospitality has continued to this day. How many of us know our origins?
Yet when this beautiful country came under one rule, it was said by the late Governor Clarkson that one area would clash with another, the back wall with the front door; that its foundations were built on a combination of sand, gravel, bush layers and virgin soil, rather implying that it could not endure. This he, Governor Clarkson said could only be averted if we stay as a nation, uniting the tribes to become the whole – the nation. I'm sure this prophecy must have caused some disquiet, even dismay. Was it pre-ordained that there must be division? Or could an underlying unity be established, so long as it was founded upon reverence for a shared belief? That was Sir Milton’s conviction - a common bond of faith would be a force strong enough to hold the house together.
May I today reaffirm that conviction, but set it even more widely: for all in Sierra Leone to live in one house; and I believe that what will hold together the house that is our nation, is a commitment to living and working together.
If we live without loyalty to a common cause, if there is no general acceptance that confrontation for its own sake damages the well-being of everyone, we shall live, obviously, in disunity. Our foundations are, indeed, unsound. "A house divided against itself cannot stand." [Mark 3:25]
Without unity, one wall will merely confront the other; age-old wisdom will go unheeded; without unity, there is, and probably can be, no proper social order. So the people lose their way, because they cannot, or will not, see the path they should walk together. "Where there is no vision, the people perish," as the Book of Proverbs says. [29:18]
Even so, this cannot mean that all contrary or individual opinion should be smothered, or ignored, or decried. New ideas have to come from somewhere. Indeed, they must be encouraged, welcomed and understood. They must be given, and received, in respect and in love. Then, there may be agreement - that the idea should be adopted, or abandoned. Or there may be agreement to disagree, for the time being at least, and so then there is opportunity to move on to something else.
We must not become trapped in quarrels. For there is so much upon which we can agree. There is so much we have in common. We are, after all, all children of God. We share a common humanity, a common ability to laugh and cry, to hope and to dream, to rejoice and to grieve, to love and to be hurt. Let us never forget that.
Another thing we have in common is that we all belong to a family; and to our families, we all owe a special loyalty, a special responsibility. They nurture us, they mature us, and they provide us with our homes. This has always been true, and further, it has always been true of all peoples, of all cultures, at all times. "Family" might mean slightly different things to different people, but the underlying concept is universal.
That sense of family is in danger of being lost. There are many reasons: the call of the city life, unemployment, the struggle to earn enough, television that limits our vision to the size of 'the box'. There is no simple answer, but so much depends on teaching, on example, on all of us practising that loyalty to one another, that responsibility to one another, that is the basis of true family life.
Yet loyalty and responsibility to others, even to those outside our immediate families, is also, when we think about the essence of things, absolutely vital. Such a loyalty as this is the basis of any true community; of overall social cohesion; of fundamental national unity. And true unity, paradoxically, allows greater diversity, amongst individuals, between families and extended families, even within entire countries.
Let's reflect on that for a moment. We in this country inherit two great cultures, the European and the hinterlands – made up of so many tribes and sub-tribes, each bringing with it its own distinctiveness. We are fortunate that we can all share the richness of both - enjoy salad, jollof rice, Shakie tomboy, kayoka, manornor, etc. They all, belonging to the two sit comfortably, side by side. We can, and must, learn of both. And other cultures have come too, adding their own distinctive colours to the nation-state, the cloak, that represents our national life. This is what I mean by unity in diversity - understanding, sharing, rejoicing, in those things that make each of us different, yet at the same time united, determined to hold together.
It is in this spirit of greatly extended family, of unity, that we must address the problems and concerns that face us as a nation: our need for reconciliation and redress for the wrongs of the past: issues of tribalism, nepotism, cronyism and corruption in areas as diverse as land and resources, criminal and civil justice; issues of deprivation, education, health. Some issues impinge more upon a tiny minority than the average Sierra Leonean; some more upon the average Sierra Leonean than the tiny minority. But all are issues facing the nation as a whole; and all must be addressed by the nation as a whole. For they can be resolved only in a spirit of oneness.
So the essential well-being of our nation might, actually, depend on our realising that it is built upon different types of ground, that our shared nation is built upon a mixture of sand, gravel, bush layer and rich virgin soil - upon a blend of Krio, Temne, Mende, Limba, Loko, Fula, Yalunka, Susu, Madingo, Vai, Kissi, Sape, Sherbro, Mampa, plus whoever or whatever might be represented in the whole (- I shudder to think) - and, the Koranko, and that this diversity can be unified to make a firm foundation for our nation. At least, this is an interpretation of the prophecy that suggests itself to me.
For it is still the truth that, without a strong sense of kinship, of loyalty, of responsibility to all those around us, and not only to ourselves or to our immediate families, it becomes difficult, or in some circumstances impossible, to achieve the better future we all desire; not just for ourselves, but even more for our children and our children's children.
We have come to help implement the principles and ideals of the founders of our nation-state. We have to make Sierra Leone a better place today and tomorrow. The past has created our present circumstances – I urge all of us to embrace the past to be able to see clearly those oversights that will path a brighter today and a more fulfilling future. We are all an extension of each other – I cannot hurt a brother in Bo without hurting another brother in Kambia. We all stand, at present, over a great task. I implore all to put country above party, tribal or regional politics. We should all work towards a peaceful co-existence.
Let us unite, let us sing different songs that have a similar chorus of a united nation, let us gather together, and let the bond of fellowship unite us.
Subject: Re: Our 'CURSE' lies in our disunity!
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 08:12:50 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123
Message:
A truly worthy and reflective piece, Oh great son of Marampa. Our tribal and ethnic fault lines that have long been our curse can also be our blessing if we choose the right politicians. We need to choose leaders who would bind the wounds, rather than exacerbate tribal hostilities.
One thing we also tend to ignore is the intratribal tension that is usually more dangerous than the intertribal play. Go to any chiefdom or district in Sierra Leone and you will find clans in the same tribe who hate each other than any outside tribe, especially in chieftaincy matters. In Kailahun, the Banyas are forever feuding with other clans. In Port Loko, Adikali Modu's New Port Loko clan would never talk to Bai Forki Sonkoi's Old Port Loko clan. I heard that late PC Bai Koblo Pathbana of Marampa was mortal enemies with Adikali Modu. The list of hostile clans goes on and on in nearly every village, town and chiefdom in Salone.
Our nation has way too many divisions, my brother. We should however never lose hope. Let's just get in some really fine, enlightened politicians.
Subject: Kemoh Sesay is innocent! SLPP have failed big time
From: Gbaytay Masiyah
To: All
Date Posted: 05:40:02 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: ishharkato@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: c83-248-235-239.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.235.239
Message:
Please look for something else because you are big disgraced losers on the cocaine issue.This is the biggest political fiasco in recent history! Very soon the people of Salone will rise up against the most mediocre,irresponsible, naive, diabolical, passive,subversive and stinking opposition in the world.
Anytime the SLPP is mentioned I only envision a bandwagon of recalcitrants, vegetables and clowns.
Subject: Re: Kemoh Sesay is innocent! SLPP have failed big time
From: Adu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 06:43:40 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-45-255-9.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.45.255.9
Message:
Look my friend, I assumed that Khemoh has given you money so that you can say nice things about him to reinstated by EBK. No way, Khemoh can look for another job because he will undermine EBK's commitment to Zero tolerance.
Khemoh did not have to be involved directly with the cocian saga for EBK to have relieved him from duty. The unprecedented violation of our air space by dangerous international criminals under Khemoh's watch amount to departmental failing and incompetence.Lonta
Subject: Re: Kemoh Sesay is innocent! SLPP have failed big time
From: Alpha Saidu Bangura
To: All
Date Posted: 09:28:35 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: saidubangso@aol.com
Entered From: 72-58-93-221.area3.spcsdns.net at 72.58.93.221
Message:
I am sure that Gbaytay made a mistake when he stated that Kemoh Sesay is innocent in the case about the drugs because the investigation is still on. For his information, very soon Kemoh will be dragged to court as a suspect in that case.
I wonder why Gbaytay believes that the SLPP has a hand in president Koroma given Kemoh Sesay the PINK SLIP.The case is purely an APC matter( it is hands of THE APC police and the action on Kemoh was taken by HIS LEADER and friend, president Ernest Koroma). The report in the Awareness newspaper does not make Kemoh Sesay innocent of the crime he was involved in. It is true that Kemoh is popular if our country but that does not give him the right to abuse the authority given to him by the people.
I hope Gbayteh and the misguided elements in the ASSOCIATION of PEOPLE for COCAINE( popularly known as APC) will understand that we will never sit down and allow the wrong people to take our beloved country back to the days of Pa Siaki( when ministers had no respect for our laws).
Subject: Re: Kemoh Sesay is innocent! SLPP have failed big time
From: Mercenary Journalism
To: All
Date Posted: 06:32:22 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h164-44-67-4.chubb.com at 164.44.67.4
Message:
How much has Kemoh and the Sesay family bribed for this sudden change in publicity ? Ah, mother Sierra Leone. No one honest man to lay hands on. Shame on us. Kemoh is still popular with EBK ? Ah money.
Subject: Re: Kemoh Sesay is innocent! SLPP have failed big time
From: Common sense
To: All
Date Posted: 06:40:59 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-154-180-88.range81-154.btcentralplus.com at 81.154.180.88
Message:
This article has not been written to exonerate Kemoh Sesay only, but also to indirectly, condemn Standard Times and The Peep.
Subject: Re: Kemoh Sesay is innocent! SLPP have failed big time
From: CocainRioko
To: All
Date Posted: 07:10:33 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-69-204-132-62.nycap.res.rr.com at 69.204.132.62
Message:
The Cocaine don fry them brain. That's why they have no common sense. They can only thrive on the COCAINRIOKO forum
Subject: Re: Kemoh Sesay is innocent! SLPP have failed big time
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 07:49:35 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123
Message:
Maybe you should direct youy cynicism at Miss SB and her AT newspaper since she is the one who has published this glowing tribute to Kemoh. This is what I do not understand about SLPP media. They were screaming their heads off about APC and cocaine and baying for the minister's blood. Now that Kemoh has been suspended from the cabinet, all of a sudden they come up with fictitious surveys attesting to Kemoh's "popularity". I hope that AT also publishes the Kemoh Survey (By the way,we are still awaiting the Zim email list piblication).
Now it appears that SB is trying to squeeze political advantage from this sordid saga for her SLPP by talking about APC "ungratefulness" and comparing Kemoh Sesay to the great Hingha Norman. This is appalling. Will Mama Salone get some love please? This soulless partyism is giving me the runs
Subject: Re: Kemoh Sesay is innocent! SLPP have failed big time
From: Money Power
To: All
Date Posted: 08:36:37 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h164-44-67-4.chubb.com at 164.44.67.4
Message:
The Sesay family has bribed some journalists heavily. It is the Cocaine money speaking.
Subject: Who the cap fit
From: Natty Rebel
To: All
Date Posted: 04:50:25 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.243.68.140
Message:
WHO THE CAP FIT
[Aston Barrett; Carlton Barrett]
Man to man is so unjust, children:
Ya don't know who to trust.
Your worst enemy could be your best friend,
And your best friend your worse enemy.
Some will eat and drink with you,
Then behind them su-su 'pon you.
Only your friend know your secrets,
So only he could reveal it.
And who the cap fit, let them wear it!
Who the cap fit, let them wear it!
Said I throw me corn,
me no call no fowl;
I saying, "Cook-cook-cook, cluk-cluk-cluk.
" Some will hate you,
pretend they love you now,
Then behind they try to eliminate you.
But who Jah bless, no one curse;
Thank God, we're past the worse.
Hypocrites and parasites
Will come up and take a bite.
And if your night should turn to day,
A lot of people would run away.
And who the stock fit
let them wear it!
Who the (cap fit) let them (wear it)!
And then a-gonna throw me corn,
And then a-gonna call no fowl,
And then a-gonna "Cook-cook-cook, cluk-cluk-cluk." --- /Instrumental break/ ---
Some will eat and drink with you,
Then behind them su-su 'pon you, yeah!
And if night should turn to day, now,
A lot of people would run away, yeah!
And who the cap fit, let them wear it!
Who the cap fit, let them wear it!
Throw me corn,
me no call no fowl;
A-saying: "Cook-cook-cook, cluk-cluk-cluk." ... :
"Cook-cook-cook, cluk-cluk-cluk.
" Throw me corn (cook-cook-cook);
Me call no fowl (cluk-cluk-cluk) /fadeout/
Subject: Re: Who the cap fit
From: DeLaw
To: All
Date Posted: 10:33:30 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: contehlawrence@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-66-61-130-113.insight.res.rr.com at 66.61.130.113
Message:
Thank you for the song from the great Bob Marley.I wish we could say "Thank God we've past the worst" for Sierra Leone.Fact is there are too many baldheads in our politics who tend to be itching for another crisis instead of putting aside their political differences to lay the foundations for a democratic society for our people.These people easily turn political differences into poltical hatred and the nation keeps on wallowing in the in the monomania of the rancor between the APC and SLPP.This nation needs visionaries and political heavywieghts who are well versed in conflict resolution.In my opinion,no Sierra Leonean should engage in violence to elect any politician to power.
Subject: For SLPP cannibals
From: Gbaytay Masiyah
To: All
Date Posted: 04:32:48 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: ishharkato@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: c83-248-235-239.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.235.239
Message:
Why boasteth thyself
Oh, evil men
Playing smart
And not being clever?
I said, youre working iniquity
To achieve vanity (if a-so a-so)
But the goodness of jah, jah
I-dureth for-i-ver
So if you are the big tree
We are the small axe
Ready to cut you down (well sharp)
To cut you down
These are the words
Of my master, keep on tellin me
No weak heart
Shall prosper
And whosoever diggeth a pit
Shall fall in it, fall in it
And whosoever diggeth a pit
Shall fall in it (... fall in it)
If you are the big tree, let me tell you that
We are the small axe, sharp and ready
Ready to cut you down (well sharp)
To cut you down
(to cut you down)
(to cut you down)
These are the words
Of my master, tellin me that
No weak heart
Shall prosper
And whosoever diggeth a pit
Shall fall in it, uh, bury in it
And whosoever diggeth a pit
Shall bury in it, uh (... bury in it)
If you are the big, big tree
We are the small axe
Ready to cut you down (well sharp)
To cut you down
If you are the big, big tree, let me tell you that
We are the small axe
Ready to cut you down (well sharp)
To cut you down
Sharpened ...
Subject: We and Them
From: Natty Rebel
To: All
Date Posted: 03:30:42 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.146.72.186
Message:
Them Belly Full (But We Hungry) lyrics
Them belly full but we hungry
A hungry mob is an angry mob
A rain a fall but the dirt it tough
A pot a cook but the food no 'nough
You're gonna dance to jah music, dance,
We're gonna dance to jah music, dance,
Forget your troubles and dance,
Forget your sorrows and dance,
Forget your sickness and dance,
Forget your weakness and dance
Cost of livin' gets so high
Rich and poor they start to cry
Now the weak must get strong
They say oh, what a tribulation
Them belly full but we hungry
A hungry mob is an angry mob
A rain a fall but the dirt it tough
A pot a cook but you no 'nough
We're gonna chuck to jah music chuckin'
We're chuckin' to jah music, we're chuckin'
Belly full but them hungry.
A hungry mob is an angry mob
A rain a fall but the dirt it tough
A pot a cook but the food no 'nough
A hungry mob is an angry mob
Subject: Time will Tell
From: Natty Rebel
To: All
Date Posted: 03:26:26 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.146.72.186
Message:
Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm-hm! ooh-oo-oo-oo-er. mm-mm-mm.
Jah would never give the power to a baldhead
Run come crucify the dread.
Time alone - oh, time will tell:
Think youre in heaven, but ya living in hell;
Think youre in heaven, but ya living in hell;
Think youre in heaven, but ya living in hell.
Time alone - oh, time will tell:
Ya think youre in heaven, but ya living in hell.
Back them up; oh, not the brothers,
But the ones who sets em up.
Time alone - oh, time will tell:
Think youre in heaven, but ya living in hell;
Think youre in heaven, but ya living in hell;
Think youre in heaven, but ya living in hell.
Time alone - oh, time will tell:
Ya think youre in heaven, but ya living in hell.
Mm-mm. mm-mm.
Oh, ma ...................
Oh, ma ...................
Oh, ma children are cryin.
Oh, children, weep no more!
Oh, ma sycamore tree, saw the freedom tree.
All you ... have spoke:
Oh, children, weep no more;
Weep no more: children, weep no more!
Jah would never give the power to a baldhead
Run come crucify the dread.
Time alone - oh, time will tell:
Think youre in heaven, but ya living in hell;
Think youre in heaven, but ya living in hell;
Think youre in heaven, but ya living in hell.
Time alone - oh, time will tell:
Think youre in heaven, but ya living in hell.
Subject: Re: Time will Tell
From: SALIFU PAPAH
To: All
Date Posted: 03:36:35 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: sabbok2003@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 83.229.112.21
Message:
you are not a good musician, it means you have find another field for survival.
Subject: Re: Time will Tell
From: Natty Rebel
To: All
Date Posted: 03:38:01 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.146.72.186
Message:
You have lost me Salifu Papah! Why am I not a good musician?
Subject: Re: Time will Tell
From: SALIFU PAPAH
To: All
Date Posted: 03:44:36 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: sabbok2003@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 83.229.112.21
Message:
YOUR TUNES ARE TOO RADICAL,THEY REPRESENT THE OLDER WAYS PEOPLE THINK. THERE WILL BE NO MORE AMBUSH IN SIERRA LEONE.AND THOSE HUNGRY BELLY WILL SOON HAVE THEIR TWO SHIPS OF RICE STOLEN AWAY FROM THEM BY THE SLPP.
Subject: Re: Time will Tell
From: Natty Rebel
To: All
Date Posted: 04:05:36 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.149.219.203
Message:
Me nor point no finger pan anybody. Dis is all our problem rasta! Me nor seem for overstand the mentality of my people. Sin! Natty nor preach ambush - just go over the lyrics again and see what me mean. I and I know say Bob Marley nor lef dem lyrics dem for us to fight but for us to reason and search our conscience. You know say nar whole heep of greed and selfish cause all our problems. Can we niot live beside each other?
Me overstand the issue that dae nar the floor - me ope say, you go overstand too. Not understand but please try to overstand the problem we face as people today.
Subject: Re: Time will Tell
From: SALIFU PAPAH
To: All
Date Posted: 04:38:45 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: sabbok2003@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 83.229.112.21
Message:
Me nor wan fe overstand, Because some rasta business nor good fe people.they like to insight people to cause troble man, that crazy man.even though Naty Rabel was killed long time back in Daru, they still talk about him.and we also want to hear the names of scientist now not warriors But dem still dae talk but dem man dat bada man.
'change de concept man'
Subject: Re: Time will Tell
From: Natty Rebel
To: All
Date Posted: 05:16:57 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.151.151.225
Message:
Siame way the Lord taught us long time ago and we still keep his teachings. I and I nor need to dwell on that right now. In rasta, we teach those things-things like, try to tell the people that we must look forward to Africa because we're going to have problems in the west. Because of the Bible, you know, we read the Bible, it teaches us that when we see certain things happening, know that these things will happen, and prepare for that. Like how we identified Christ, in his advent as Imperial Majesty Emperor Haile Selassie the First. Because the Bible points us that before the closing of the two thousand years, Christ must reveal again, return to earth, as the King of Kings, Lord of Lords, and Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah, Elector of God, and him shall be earthright ruler. Because Judah is the lawgiver, that's what the Bible says. Him shall thy brethren praise. You set yourself apart from Judah and the lawgiver between his feet until Shiloh come and unto him shall gather the people we. So Judah now come to gather the people, the descendents of that tribe, the ruler, the Messiah must come. But it's one family, you know, all over the earth, we are families but you have to come to know yourself. Because you know what happen is Rome change up everything from the time of the Roman astrologers, they change everything. Julius Cæsar and Augustus Cæsar come out in July and August, in the history, when the Roman Empire was at its full strength. So they cheated everything, but we learn from the Bible, and that's where everything come from. We identify ourselves from different tribes. The chief in our family is a man named Brother Gad, from the tribe of Gad. It's Rasta, it's Rasta still in you know. Marcus Garvey show us to industrialize. He say we are to make something. We must try to get our independence. make our own things and stop fighting one another. And keep the control. The only ideology you see right now is the ideology of the caucasian. Don't you think you have an ideology? To tell you the truth, people. Plain people. All people, Black people, Chinese. All people. They are all people.
The philisophy of reggae some say is catching on. me say,I don't think it "catch on." I think people have the spirit, then it is there. You don't "turn" a Rasta. You can accept the truth. Everyday it happens. This thing here is not like "more and more' people, because the people that people think of, there's a lot of people, but there are a lot of children, even more than people, so everything have a future. Cause when people talk, they talk only of people, as them see people walk, them no remember children that can't walk yet. There's a lot more of them that can't walk. This is development. Reggae is one of the ways, if the lyrics deal with the truth. The music is one way to communicate. The people can communicate. Communication go on, you know. Someone hear the truth, and tell it to someone, next one tell it to the next one. There is not no one man who really tell everyone cause each one a go teach the next one. Like you hear a good advice, you tell someone else. And it go on, you know.
Well, the advice was always like in me like, so when you see a vision and meet people and talk to them and find like for instance.
You know this is a thing that grow - Reggae. I don't think anyone can predict, like say, so much time a man predict and can make mistakes and the best thing is go and tighten it up. Because all you know you're on a positive road. You have some type of direction where you're going, so you have to just keep on going. You have some type of direction where you're going, so you have to just keep on going. It's like a ship at sea. You don't really see the land but you know it's over east, so you just keep going east. So reggae music will go on. There's five hundred million people in Africa say Yeah! Reggae music have its biggest audiences in Africa. I mean it's big in Europe too but it have the biggest audience in Africa. And that is no boast nor show-off nor anything. Is just the truth. You go to a place like Nigeria, man, go to a place like Senegal. Any one of them country there. Is a big thing man. Big.
Cause you know them figure say Rasta is changing society. But that is what we come to do. And people get quarrelsome and weak. We come to change things and when them see changes them quarrel and say it's changing. And that's what we come fi do, and them know it.
Subject: Re: Time will Tell
From: DeLaw
To: All
Date Posted: 11:20:08 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: contehlawrence@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-66-61-130-113.insight.res.rr.com at 66.61.130.113
Message:
We need a Rasta Movement in Sierra Leone to chase some of these baldheads from political office by exposing them and at the same time creating more awareness among the people.Let us spread the message that Sierra Leoneans should not allow politicians to use them to commit acts of violence to elect anyone during our elections.We must 'fight' for a democratic society now,starting with free and fair elections.Our people must reserve the right to choose their leaders peacefully.
Subject: Ambush in the Night
From: Natty Rebel
To: All
Date Posted: 03:16:07 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.146.72.186
Message:
(Ooh-wee, ooh-wee, ooh-wa!)
See them fighting for power
(ooh-wee, ooh-wee, ooh-wa!),
But they know not the hour
(ooh-wee, ooh-wee, ooh-wa!),;
So they bribing with their guns,
spare-parts and money,
Trying to belittle our
Integrity now.
They say what we know
Is just what they teach us;
And we're so ignorant
'Cause every time they can
reach us (shoobe, doo-wa)
Through political strategy (shoo-be, doo-wa);
They keep us hungry (shoobe, doo-wa),
And when you gonna get some
food (shoobe, doo-wa),
Your brother got to be your enemy, we-e-ell!
Ambush in the night,
All guns aiming at me;
[ Find more Lyrics at www.mp3lyrics.org/wJN ]
Ambush in the night,
They opened fire on me now.
Ambush in the night,
Protected by His Majesty.
Ooh-wee, ooh-wee. Ooh-wa-ooh!
(Ooh-wee) Ooh-wee, ooh-wee (ooh-wa), Ooh-wa!
Ooh-wee, ooh-wee, ooh wa-ooh!
Ooh-wee, ooh-wee, ooh wa-ah!
Well, what we know
Is not what they tell us;
We're not ignorant, I mean it,
And they just cannot touch us;
Through the powers of the
Most-I (shoobe, doo-wa),
We keep on surfacin' (shoobe, doo-wa);
Thru the powers of the
Most-I (shoobe, doo-wa),
We keep on survivin'.
In this ambush in the night
Planned by society;
Ambush in the night;
They tryin' to conquer me;
Ambush in the night
Anyt'ing money can bring;
Ambush in the night
Planned by society;
Ambush in the night - [ fadeout ]
Subject: Stiff Naked Fools
From: Natty Rebel
To: All
Date Posted: 03:11:15 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.146.72.186
Message:
Stiff-necked fools, you think you are cool
To deny me for simplicity.
Yes, you have gone for so long
With your love for vanity now.
Yes, you have got the wrong interpretation
Mixed up with vain imagination.
So take Jah Sun, and Jah Moon,
And Jah Rain, and Jah Stars,
And forever, yes, erase your fantasy, yea-eah!
The lips of the righteous teach many,
But fools die for want of wisdom.
The rich man's wealth is in his city;
The righteous' wealth is in his Holy Place.
So take Jah Sun, and Jah Moon,
And Jah Rain, and Jah Stars,
And forever, yes, erase your fantasy, yeah!
Destruction of the poor is in their poverty;
Destruction of the soul is vanity, yeah!
So stiff-necked fools, you think you are cool
To deny me for simplicity, yea-ea-eah!
Yes, you have gone - gone for so long
With your love for vanity now.
But I don't wanna rule ya!
I don't wanna fool ya!
I don't wanna school ya:
Things you - you might never know about!
Yes, you have got the wrong interpretation
Mixed up with vain - vain imagination:
Stiff-necked fools, you think you are cool
To deny me for, o-ooh, simplicity. [fadeout]
Subject: The evil that SLPPers do lives after them!
From: SLPP Cannibal
To: All
Date Posted: 02:39:26 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: ishharkato@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: c83-248-235-239.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.235.239
Message:
Between 1962 and 1967 they thought they were in heaven.Most of them were boasting openly that whosoever was against them will make a good lunch or supper for the next day.Some of them were even preaching that human flesh is the most tasty of all.
They used the congobay for human hunting and were on an eating spree! They ate most of their opponents especially in Bonthe and in fact in Kenema the evidence is still there for all to see.A lot of people disappeared during this dark era and no investigation ever took place because there was no one to complain to.If anyone dares to make any report he will be fined if lucky or end up on the eating table too!
They tried to rejuvenate the practise in 2005 but with less steam.The people now know them and so waited for 2007 to send them to oblivion.
Now they are trying to return to power by hook or crook so as to continue the barbaric act of cannibalism.The people are now wise and very suspicious of the SLPP cannibal party and are doing everything to keep them away from State House.
Those who think pouring urine on cannibals is a big deal should review their thinking because it is not worth it.If someone can eat humans why can't he be comfortable with urine too? Urine odour is just like perfume to cannibals
They deserved more than urine! It also serves them right even if they are beaten to death because we don't need troublesome cannibals in our midst anymore.
Subject: Re: The evil that SLPPers do lives after them!
From: SALIFU PAPAH
To: All
Date Posted: 03:26:04 08/16/08 ()
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But jj Blood said he loves the scent of the urine and he appreciated the Beating. he said the blood makes him feel good as he remembers the time he was drinking a lot of it. He must be a crazy man ahh ahh ahh.
Subject: THANK YOU, KING LOGGY
From: CHIEF IN EXILE
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Date Posted: 00:06:26 08/16/08 ()
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Posted by KING LOGGY on August 15, 2008 at 23:40:55:
In Reply to: HIGH SCHOOLS IN SIERRA LEONE; ARE THEY RANKABLE? posted by Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas on August 15, 2008 at 10:54:13:
"Interesting how a very important message of discussion is being eclipsed, yet again, by our romantic affair with politics and those thuggish and kleptocratic southern-educated politicians like S.I. Koroma.(:
Can those knowledgable of this national disgrace please educate us. I know of this kid here in Virginia who graduated from a high school in Sierra Leone and cannot pass her GED after three attempts.
HIGH SCHOOLS IN SIERRA LEONE; ARE THEY RANKABLE?
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HIGH SCHOOLS IN SIERRA LEONE; ARE THEY RANKABLE?
Posted by Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas on August 15, 2008 at 10:54:13:
CKC, GRAMMAR SCHOOL, PRINCE OF WALSE, BO SCHOOL, ANNIE WALSH, FSSG,ALBERT ACADEMY, MBSS, MGSS, RICHARD ALLEN, INDEPENDENCE, COLLEGATE, CONVENT,GSSM, QRS, UCC, ST. HELENA, ETC, ETC.
A lot can be said for and against these schools. Some have produced notables (CKC=Dr.Curtis-Thomas, Solomon Berewa, Kabs-Kanu,? John Leigh, Charles Margai, etc.). Some have produced outstanding GCE results (although "leakage" have cast some doubts).
The critical question is: ARE SIERRA LEONE HIGH SCHOOLS RANKABLE? If the answer is yes then what yardstick can be used? Is this rankage based on GCE results, on the school's products, i.e. on "elitism"(by their fruits we shall know them), on sporting events, on the school's "name", how long the school has been in existence ,etc., etc.
FRANKLY I DO NOT THINK THAT SIERRA LEONE HIGH SCHOOLS CAN BE RANKED, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
Subject: Re: THANK YOU, KING LOGGY
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 01:43:35 08/16/08 ()
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No thank you Chief for initiating such an important topic.
Subject: ALIMA FINALLY LAID TO REST ON FRIDAY
From: SALIFU PAPAH
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Date Posted: 21:40:53 08/15/08 ()
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I went yesterday for friday( Jumma) Prayers at the Masjid Mubarak Mosque at Wilberforce.
after observing prayers, the iman told us to assemble outside and give our final blessing to a decease young girl. I was wondering who this person might be untill when we get outside and I saw the father of alima and her relatives standing behind the coffin waiting for us, i was emotionally shocked when i learned that it was alima's cops we are going to pray on.
after the prayers, there was loud noise around the mosque compound as her relative and friends shed tears for her, the whole scene was really pathetic and shamefull to to her relatives and citizens of this Country.
Subject: FOREIGN AFFAIRS:WASHINGTON VS.MUSHARRF.
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
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Date Posted: 20:20:31 08/15/08 ()
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Washington’s unpredictable foreign policy like in the case of President Mikheil Saakashvili of Georgia,also leaves Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan slowly twisting in the political air.
When I posted something to the effect few days ago,the replies that followed were in total disagreement.Now with the fast unfolding events in Pakistan,President Musharraf is left slowly twisting to his death politically and his once ally the USA no where to be seen except offering lip service as support for his predicament.
Those of us who are very much awashed in the the foreign policy actions of the USA are not surprised the very least because this is not the first time the USA has left a key ally left drying in the hot sun when the political landscape shifts.
The cases of Samosa,Mohamed Palavi,and Ferdinand Marcos are clear examples to help evaluate my assertions.
The political situation Musharraf finds himself was orchestrated by the USA between him and Benazir Bhutto as well as Nawaz Sharif.In return for him giving up his staff command of the military and holding a general elections,Bhutto and Sharif will be allowed to participate in the exercise,and all corruption charges against them dropped.The deportation agreement to which Sharif was subjected to was to be lifted against him.I am sure if Musharraf had known that he will be railroaded in to a political scheme where he will eventually end up at the short end of the stick,he will never have been a party to it.
Musharraf was opposed in 1999 by the USA when he toppled Sharif from power but he was very smart to pledge his political allegiance with the USA granted them unprecedented access to Pakistant’s territory that included operations and logistical support in the fight against the Talibans especially after the 9-11 attack on the USA.
Sharif has now struck a political deal with Asif Alie Zardari of the PPP to oust Musharraf from power and the surprising thing about it all is that General Ashfaq Kiyani THE Musharraf handpicked army chief of staff have remained loudly silent over the debacle that seems to be simmering out of control by the minutes presaging a bad omen for Pakistan.
So as the administration cuts off ties with the embattled Musharraf,this should be an important lesson to be gleaned from by those leaders who will be tempted to act undemocratic expecting Washington will come to their rescue when push comes to shove.
Washington’s foreign policy is firmly embedded in the fundamental belief or reliance on permanent interests and not permanent allies,as Musharraf and other leaders in serious political problems are now finding out to their eternal regrets.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: National Cocaine Saga
From: All Peoples Cocaine (APC)
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Date Posted: 19:21:01 08/15/08 ()
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Does anyone know the whereabout of VP Sumana? I heard he was seeking medical attention (apparently for cholera)out of the country. Sumana should be wise not to enter the United States because he is on the DEA/FBI watch list for international drug traffickers. If Sumana or any APC government official for that matter dare enter the US, they will be detained, prosecuted and jailed. So APC---All Peoples Cocaine, should beware.
Subject: Re: National Cocaine Saga
From: Daring
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Date Posted: 05:22:48 08/16/08 ()
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US dare not do any such thing or our branch in Washington will deal with Bush with our latest ammunition (bucket full of P*** and sh**)
Subject: PUBLIC VIOLENCE DAMAGES OUR ENTIRE SOCIETY
From: John E. Leigh ©
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Date Posted: 18:11:30 08/15/08 ()
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Dear Forumites:
Egregious violations of the public peace are extremely dangerous developments especially in a weak and failed state such as our country. As we may all know, a weak state is unlikely to be in any position to manage, let alone contain, the violent forces that small orchestrated series of violence against opposition elements eventually unleashes.
It is common knowledge worldwide that a primary duty of the government of the day in any country is to maintain public order throughout the state at all times with complete objectivity. Fairness in dealing with all sections of the population is the key to long-term peace and economic and social development.
Repeatedly using direct violence or surrogates to physically harm political rivals and/or damage, destroy and loot their property is among the most certain provocations authorities can use to insure the unleashing of uncontrollable nationwide violence that can only further hurt our suffering people and keep our long-term poorly managed country in continuous last place, even among the world’s hellish nations.
A nation’s civilian police force is funded, trained, operated and led for the purpose of keeping the peace by diligently working around the clock to maintain order in any society seeking to advance the overall public interest or which wishes to be included within the community of civilized nations. The Police cannot, therefore, be seen by the general public and the world at large as a disinterested party amidst violence against law-abiding elements in that society – let alone be observed by the public as either:
(i) Participating in the breakdown of the peaceful public order; or
(ii) Standing idly by amidst such violence without protecting victims of violence and arresting as many perpetrators as possible, therein or later: or worse,
(iii) Seen by the public as jubilating amidst the breakdown of law and order and then arresting victims who were defending themselves in the absence of police protection.
Over the past eleven months, SLPP offices in Freetown, Bo and Kenema have been invaded and damaged with private property and a whole lot of office furniture and equipment destroyed or looted. If any of the ring leaders or participants in violating the peace has been brought to justice since September 2007, I do not know.
During the same period, the residences of several former officials of the defeated SLPP Administration of President Kabbah were invaded, damaged and personal property looted, damaged or destroyed. If any of the ring leaders or participants in violating the peace has been brought to justice, I do not know.
In recent days, the SLPP premises in both Freetown and Bo have again been attacked and damaged in the case of the Bo SLPP office, furniture and equipment donated to replace those looted and damaged in September 2007 violent looting invasion, were again looted, damaged or destroyed and windows smashed up. Whether any significant perpetrator has been arrested for prosecution or whether the police are genuinely investigating those violent breaches of the peace in broad daylight, I do not know.
What I do know is that the repeated appearance of orchestrated public violence against the SLPP opposition without judicial consequences, with or without police or official connivance, is the surest way to keep Sierra Leone poor and backward. Police officers, too, will suffer likewise because where public safety is in shambles and private property rights not protected by the police, police (and other public) salaries, conditions of service and police facilities will continuously remain poor and substandard for years to come.
Continued national poverty and backwardness will be the certain consequences because the unchecked orchestration of the breakdown of Law and Order will diminish international sympathy for our country and discourage helpful nations, their institutions, their businesses and sympathetic individuals within those nations from showing the type of interest and levels of commitments necessary to lift our poorly-managed but resource-rich country with bright people from our continuous hellish predicament of: (i) mass unemployment: (ii) massive numbers of restless, undirected and unassisted youths - many with post secondary school education; (iii) low or non-existent personal disposable income; (iv) exceedingly high infant mortality rates coupled with high child-birth deaths of young mothers; (v) debilitating sicknesses causing mysterious sudden deaths of the young; (vi) low life expectancies nationwide; (vii) widespread counter-productive superstitions and so on and on.
Right now, it appears that only officials and adherents of the opposition SLPP are complaining. This is poor civic behavior by the generality of the public. Let’s face it, only a small group of evil people are infringing on the rights of law-abiding people while the vast majority of our people remain silent. Accordingly, it should not be difficult to get all the constituent parts of our country to fight and defeat this corrosive cancer of violence if good people unite regardless of political affiliation.
In connection with the recurring violence against the lawful opposition, I proposed the following six-point plan:
1. Our SL 50-50 women’s group and other female-led civil society organizations must be aware that when public violence expands and public safety deteriorates, females are the most vulnerable members of our society and the prime targets of abusive criminals - regardless of politics, age or social class. Therefore, I urge our women folks to take the lead to help law-abiding people nip future violence in the bud before violence against the Public Order escalates any further.
As we all know from our recent past, those very people doing violence against the SLPP today are the very criminals who will be doing violence to women and children tomorrow. The ladies of Sierra Leone must therefore take the lead to press our government to prosecute all violent wrongdoers in our midst regardless of politics and without vacillation. Women have taken the lead before to compel beneficial changes in our society. They can do the same again today by pressing the police to prosecute SLPP attackers and to always intervene to protect victims of violence.
2. I respectfully urge the government to investigate all prior acts of substantial violence against the opposition SLPP offices, its people and property and indict, prosecute and try the perpetrators. If the perpetrators cannot be prosecuted beyond a reasonable doubt, I hereby recommend our usual Commission of Inquiry approach with the findings released to the public and the Government’s White Paper thereon.
Meanwhile, I respectfully urge the authorities to free from detention all those arrested while defending themselves in the vicinity of SLPP offices in the absence of police protection while being attacked by the stoning or looting invaders.
3. Parliament has a most important role to play in addressing the Public Violence and the breakdown of Law and Order matter. It must hold hearings, debate the matter and enact effective legislation to bring all such violations to an end forthwith. If the Government MPs refuse their cooperation, the opposition MPs should hold public hearings and issue their findings to voters nationwide for their consideration in future elections.
4. I urge the international donor community and the UN Representative in Freetown to register with our government their concerns about repeat violence for which there has been zero prosecutions and/or that might legitimately appear orchestrated with police connivance. Please let the government know that there are consequences for the willful or negligent failure to protect the public’s safety.
5. I urge SLPP party adherents to stop annoying government and municipal officials with needless, ineffectual provocations for whatever reasons. SLPPers must continue to keep the peace with patience and discipline. They must rely on the judicial and political processes and must do nothing to earn blame for any injury or death. In order to gain the respect and support of voters nationwide, all SLPP activists must conduct business in a highly responsible manner and devise non-provocative counters to all APC perceived follibles.
6. Last but not least, I respectfully ask our President and all power elements within our government and our Mayor, not to permit the orchestration of violence against the Public Order or to condone police hands-off practice or apparent connivance tactics against political rivals because such conduct will make it much harder to govern a poor nation still on the dole.
Professional use of the Police Force makes our police a Force for Good. A Force for Good is an essential requirement for our nation’s economic and social development.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. - JEL
Subject: Re: PUBLIC VIOLENCE DAMAGES OUR ENTIRE SOCIETY
From: Gbaytay Masiyah
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Date Posted: 04:09:50 08/16/08 ()
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Nice piece of writing here! This can pass well for a term paper at foundation stage at the Njala university.
But........... but...........
1) There is no cause for concern now by the international community.They know that sabotage is at work.Had the SLPP behaved as a responsible party and are still being poked in the ear then the whole world would have risen up against the ruling party. In fact very soon the international community will issue a statement calling on the SLPP to refrain from their insidious activities and cooperate fully with the ruling party.
2)It will be fair play if you urge the govt. to also investigate SLPP attacks on PMDC offices.
3) Tell the SLPP cabal which is still yet to come to grips with the trouncing they received in last year's elections to stop sponsoring biased and diabolical newspapers like the New People and Awareness times.These news outlets create fear and misunderstanding among the citizens, inflame and incite especially the youths and tarnish the image of the country.It is hightime they realize it is not easy to unseat a democratically-elected popular govt.The SLPP should dissociate themselves from this dangerous duo.
Subject: Re: PUBLIC VIOLENCE DAMAGES OUR ENTIRE SOCIETY
From: Diplomat
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Date Posted: 04:53:34 08/16/08 ()
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We should not take the International Community for granted.This is the mistake, which SLPP made and lost their support and we are heading in the same direction, more speedily.Let us wait and watch.
Subject: Re: PUBLIC VIOLENCE DAMAGES OUR ENTIRE SOCIETY
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:37:45 08/16/08 ()
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Mr. Diplomat:
Thank you very much.
I agree with you that the International Community is an essential key to our country's future because most of the promblems we ourselves create (and needlessly) cannot be resolved without international intervention.
As we all know, to create a mess is quite easy but to solve it is an altogether different matter. Accordingly, once violence develops its own momemtum, our government together with we SLeoneans alone will not be able to contain it. Help has to come from the outside.
Further, our economy is unproductive and until it functions the way a successful national economy ought to function, unemployment will remain massive and incomes petty; our governing authorities will continue to depend on outside support to fund the public services essential for health and safety and, most pitiful of all, our youths will grow old and die without ever satisfying their unremmitted pent-up demand for a better life - unless they flee the country or become corrupt and duplicitious, etc. at home.
Our education system is poorly funded and not innovative at all. In fact, most of our local graduates can't even feed themselves should they decide not to flee the country. Huge social, economic and political problems abound inside SL, yet I am not aware of any credible attempts by the academic classes to address them successfully. Most people are simply busy endlessly struggling to put body & soul together.
Problems go on and on that we cannot solve ourselves. Hence, we need respect and support from our international supporters to help bail failure out of our well known failed society.
Again, maintaining the public peace (i.e. Law and Order with Justice) is an absolute pre-requisite for a better future for our people - the police, civil servants, women, children, youths, academics, businesses, etc. - regardless of politics. Thanks again. - JL
Subject: Re: PUBLIC VIOLENCE DAMAGES OUR ENTIRE SOCIETY
From: SORIE
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Date Posted: 20:57:15 08/15/08 ()
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Mr. Leigh , you made a good point and observation. I hope people will understand some of the petty neglected issues are the causes of unrests and massive destructions in many countries.If arrogant, crude hooligans should be encouraged to do things as they like , then citizens will soon be ready to defend themselves . How long are people going to allow themselves to be brutalized, bastardized and killed? Some of the indecent human animals may not even be members of political parties, they are crude elements ,thieves and vicious persons inviting another bloody upheaval for their personal interests. Government should take serious actions and eradicate the dastardly situation or dump the nation in another bloody civil war. Thank you.
Subject: Re: PUBLIC VIOLENCE DAMAGES OUR ENTIRE SOCIETY
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:49:58 08/16/08 ()
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MR. SORIE:
Thank you very much. You've hit upon the real problem when you wrote thus:
"Some of the indecent human animals may not even be members of political parties, they are crude elements, thieves and vicious persons inviting another bloody upheaval for their personal interests. Government should take serious actions and eradicate the dastardly situation or dump the nation in another bloody civil war. Thank you."
Violent criminal raray boys are certainly involved. The government should put these criminals out of business soonest because they are not only hurting the opposition; they are hurting the government as well as society at large.
Further, unchecked violent criminal behavior seemingly intended solely for the political opposition alone, can in time develop its own unstoppable momemtum, swallowing the entire country in its wake.
Again, I appreciate your astute observation. - JL.
Subject: Re: PUBLIC VIOLENCE DAMAGES OUR ENTIRE SOCIETY
From: Patriot
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Date Posted: 07:21:15 08/16/08 ()
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Sorie well said these hooligans parading as APC supporters can change to green or roange at a moments notice jus bring di beat box and bubu
Subject: Re: PUBLIC VIOLENCE DAMAGES OUR ENTIRE SOCIETY
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:52:01 08/16/08 ()
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Correct!
Subject: Re: PUBLIC VIOLENCE DAMAGES OUR ENTIRE SOCIETY
From: Niceman
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Date Posted: 05:38:56 08/16/08 ()
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There will never be a civil war,only the socalled tribalist opposition loosers advocating for that.
Subject: SIERRA LEONE:Partisan Politics Threatens Peace
From: Thugs
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Date Posted: 17:52:10 08/15/08 ()
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SIERRA LEONE:Partisan Politics Threatens Peace
Mohammed Fofana
Credit: Mohammed Fofana/IPS
Police have failed to prevent sporadic political violence.
FREETOWN, Aug 15 (IPS) - A violent showdown on August 13 in the heart of Freetown, Sierra Leone's capital, demonstrated the political tension that has been brewing between the country's two main political parties, the ruling All People's Congress (APC) and the main opposition Sierra Leone's People's Party (SLPP).
Scores of young men armed with sticks, stones, and machetes -- and allegedly aligned with the APC -- attacked the SLPP party headquarters and completely vandalised it. They also beat up some SLPP supporters they found in the building, before police were able to quell the fighting.
Jacob Jusu Saffa, the SLPP secretary-general, says that party offices all over the country have been attacked and party supporters beaten on many occasions.
It is barely six years since peace returned to a country that endured 11 years of gruesome and barbaric civil war. Tens of thousands were killed and an estimated 20,000 brutally mutilated as the Liberian-backed Revolutionary United Front (RUF) led by Foday Sankoh initially sought to overthrow an APC government which had in 1991 held power for over 24 years. By the time the war ended in 2002, as many as 2 million people had been displaced.
"We are moving in a circle. This was the same government in power when war broke out in 1990, and they are doing the same things that caused the war -- suppressing opposition with thuggery as they are doing now," said Mohamed Turay, a lecturer at the Fourah Bay College.
The Truth and Reconciliation Commission set up after the war found that among the main causes of the war were marginalisation, a disregard for human rights and fundamental freedoms by all parties involved, the suppression of free expression and political dissent, and an absence of good governance.
A nation divided
The results of the 2007 presidential elections spelled out clearly the political divide that, sadly, is accepted by many Sierra Leoneans. The APC won the majority of votes in the north and west of the country, whilst the SLPP had strong support in the eastern and southern part of the country.
"This division is bad for the country," observed civil servant Saidu Kamara. "Especially when (each of) the different regions are dominated by the two major tribes in the country, Mende in the south and Temne in the north."
When he took office, President Ernest Bai Koroma promised to form a government of national unity. However, the makeup of his cabinet was roundly criticized from all quarters when 17 of the 20 Ministers were either Temnes or from the north. SLPP secretary general Saffa pointed out that when they were in government, the SLPP included ministers from all parts of the country.
Defending the appointments, the APC information minister Alhaji Ibrahim Ben Kargbo said that it was only prudent to draw a team from amongst loyalists of the party.
SLPP member and former finance minister John Benjamin told IPS that concern about the widening rift led the SLPP to suggest that APC Minister of Presidential Affairs, Alpha Kanu, set up a peace building committee which would broker peace between the two parties.
"We were at the stage of putting a peace building team together when the August 13 attack on our party headquarters and supporters made it impossible to continue," Benjamin said.
He explained that the president called an SLPP delegation to a meeting, but APC supporters poured water on them and insulted them right in front of State House and neither police nor security did anything. "This totally defeated the talks we had with the vice president," Benjamin told IPS. "It might get to a time when we will not be able to control our own supporters."
The Secretary General of the APC, Victor Foe, flatly denied that APC supporters have been attacking the SLPP: "It’s all lies, They are the ones attacking our supporters,"
The Director of Campaign for Good Governance (CGG), Valnora Edwin told IPS, "Sierra Leone has moved past the issues of APC and SLPP. What we should be concerned with is the development of the country. We are tired of sitting in last position in the UN Human Development Index. If we continue to have unrest, investors will not come to the country."
Calm has returned to the capital, as the police made several arrests. But there has been no contact between the two parties to defuse the tension
Subject: OUR FIVE SENSES WILL NOT BE COMPLETE WITHOUT THE SIXTH...
From: CHIEF IN EXILE
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Date Posted: 16:37:20 08/15/08 ()
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OUR FIVE SENSES WILL NOT BE COMPLETE WITHOUT THE SIXTH...THAT IS, THE SENSE OF HUMOR!
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APC, WHERE IS MY SHARE OF THIS WEALTH?
Posted by Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas on August 14, 2008 at 19:58:32:
The Star Of Sierra Leone Diamond
This diamond is the third largest ever found, and weighed almost half a pound in the rough. The rough was eventually cut into seventeen exquisite invididual diamonds, six of which are now set in the Star of Sierra Leone Brooch. So what happened to the other ELEVEN PIECES? Did I hear you say, "teacher, teacher, teacher, teacher, I know. Siaka Stevens took 75% of it, and gave the rest "to gbogbo"?
It is interesting to note that students of FBC protested against the APC because of the way this great wealth was converted into "fambul property".
...Some of those students, Hindolo, Kabs-Kanu, et al. who protested against the crookish APC are now comfortably in bed with the APC...Did I hear someone say, "doc, dis nar dee NEW APC"?
ANY EXPLAINATION OR SUGGESTION?
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Posted by Accountant on August 15, 2008 at 04:22:17:
In Reply to: APC, WHERE IS MY SHARE OF THIS WEALTH? posted by Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas on August 14, 2008 at 19:58:32:
"Your share of Diamond and Iron and aluminium and Gold etc is USD 1 million dollar, and your share of National Debit is USD1.25 million dollars.So please send your cheque for USD250,000"
Subject: The Chief In Exile wishes Rev. Kabs-Kanu a speedy recovery.
From: Chiefdom Spokeswoman
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Date Posted: 16:09:24 08/15/08 ()
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iMPORTANT message from Sierra Leone's biggest , most widely-read and award-winning newspaper
Written by Cocorioko Newspaper Limited
Friday, 15 August 2008
COCORIOKO wants to inform all its readers that the Editor-In-Chief and CEO of the paper , Rev. Wilfred Leeroy Kabs-Kanu, was indisposed and unavailable since last Thursday August 7, 2008. The good news is that Rev. Kabs-Kanu is returning to his editorial desk on Saturday.
We are sorry for the break in the updating of your favourite newspaper, due to the unavailability of the Editor-In-Chief .Even our critics missed us. They cannot do without us and expressed their frustration on our forum by making all kinds of funny suggestions, as usual. We don't have time to respond to losers. If we were not so important in their lives, they would not have missed us. Times have come when many of the newspapers online were not updated for a week or more but nobody wrote anything on the forums about it. We are proud to have even critics who miss us.
We will be back with a bumper edition on Saturday. We will bring you a BALANCED coverage of the SLPP and APC crisis, starting from the disturbances in Bo and Kenema . We will bring you the versions of two parties (Which have been made available to us ), not some of the one-sided versions you have been reading in many of the opposition newspapers. In our Editorial on Saturday, we will condemn the APC roundly for their attacks on the opposition . We sincerely believe that this government has to rein in its supporters. We will appeal to President Ernest Koroma to do something about the conduct of those purporting to be supporters of the APC. If they want to represent the party, they must conduct themselves in a manner that brings credit , not shame, to the government. In the same vein, we will condemn the SLPP for their acts of provocation, especially in Bo, a fact admitted that even some honest supporters of the party acknowledged . The late Professor the Rev. Canon Dr. Harry Sawyer, while Principal of West Africa's then premier institution of higher learning, Fourah Bay College, left us the immortal Krio wise saying that 'WAN HAND BANGLE NOR BA SHAKE' ( A SINGLE BRACELET ON THE ARM DOES NOT JINGLE) or as the English saying goes : IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO . We agree that APC supporters are getting out of hand but we also think that the SLPP should stop certain provocative acts. We will take an honest look at the despicable behavior of APC supporters but will not fail to show where the SLPP supporters too are falling short (Based on the reports on the ground ).
We will also condemn the attacks on press men who went to cover the meeting that was supposed to have taken place between the President and members of the opposition. We will also appeal strongly to President Koroma to do whatever it takes to nip these acts of RUFFIANISM and THUGGERY in the bud.
Subject: SLPP UK/IRELAND PRESS RELEASE ON APC VIOLENCE
From: Sahr Dugba
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Date Posted: 16:06:34 08/15/08 ()
Email Address: dugba@hotmail.co.uk
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As APC lose support, they start using violence as an option to intimidate the opposition. Is this what Sierra leoneans voted for. Please see the SLPP UK/IRELAND PRESS RELEASE BELOW:
SIERRA LEONE PEOPLES’ PARTY
UNITED KINGDOM and Ireland Branch
One Country one People! One People one Country
PRESS STATEMENT
ATTACK ON SLPP NATIONAL HEAD QUARTERS
The attention of the UK and Ireland Branch has been drawn to the unprovoked attack on the National Office of the Party by supporters and members of the governing APC on Wednesday August 13 2008.
We condemn this cowardly attack without reservations, and see such actions as an attack on democracy.
Unfortunately, these attacks have taken a menacing regularity, with the clear intention of instilling fear amongst our supporters.
The timing of the latest attack is no coincidence, as it has been deliberately staged to provoke our supporters into reacting so as to give the government the pretence it so desperately craves to have an atmosphere of national crisis to divert the attention of the nation and those of the international community from the cocaine saga in which it is now embroiled that has brought a national embarrassment to our Country.
Rather than manufacturing a crisis, we urge the government to instead concentrate on the cocaine problem, and weed from its ranks those characters that have been involved in this sordid trade.
Whilst we as a party will continue to be law abiding, we are constrained to say that we cannot continue to turn the proverbial other cheek in the face of continues harassment by the government and its supporters.
The most pernicious aspects to this growing atmosphere of intimidation are that the Police are either unable or unwilling to discharge their Constitutional duty of protecting lives and property.
To this extent, we see the contours of another totalitarian state emerging, with the Police as part of the coercive instrument in this sinister move. We want to warn the APC that Sierra Leone will never again become a one party dictatorship.
We want to take this opportunity to bring to the attention of the international community and other development partners that the SLPP has reached its limit of endurance, and that any further acts of provocation will be resisted by our supporters.
Signed
Harold Saffa
Chairman
Subject: Re: SLPP UK/IRELAND PRESS RELEASE ON APC VIOLENCE
From: Agnes K Macauley
To: All
Date Posted: 08:06:55 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: Agmonique@gmail.com
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I am a bit surprise to read a statement from Sahr Dugba. I know there are a lot of Sahrs in our Dugba family but I also know that there are only two people that use it while others have been known since birth by other names. The two Sahr Dugbas I know will not make political statements for various reasons and particularly as they are not really involved in politics - I will therefore advise that which ever of my brothers or cousins and nephews using Sahr Dugba to please come out in the open and the name they are commonly known by. Just a good advice so that no other person takes credit for your bold steps.
In politics there is no hiding. That is the first lesson to learn. Bravo to you for expressing what you believe in.
Subject: POST MORTEM ON THE SIERRA LEONE REBEL WAR
From: CHIEF IN EXILE
To: All
Date Posted: 13:26:14 08/15/08 ()
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The South African Institute of International Affairs
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
21/2000
Sierra Leone burns while the UN fiddles
Sierra Leone continues to suffer from its nearly decade-long war, and on the surface little has changed. The rainy season is ending and the war is sure to resume in earnest. The Revolutionary United Front (RUF) rebels are stronger than ever, and their godfather, President Charles Taylor of Liberia, continues to support them while deceiving the international community with spurious peace prospects. The United Nations force, UNAMSIL, lacks direction and languishes in Freetown begging for more troop contributions, while suffering a critical net loss as two key countries withdraw their battalions.
Behind the scenes, however, there are some new developments. Charles Taylor’s regime has suffered some setbacks and the RUF is showing signs of breaking into smaller factions. The British have made new, stronger commitments to the government of Sierra Leone and to UNAMSIL. Nevertheless, the possibility of long-term peace remains elusive and may require more robust and unconventional efforts to secure a peace.
Political dynamics of the RUF
While the primary RUF leader, Foday Sankoh, remains in prison, his designated replacement, Colonel Issa Sesay talks peace. Few Sierra Leoneans trust Sesay, and recent fighting seems to be undercutting his offers. The RUF have initiated a number of skirmishes with government militia, and last month they made repeated forays into neighbouring Guinea, bolstered by Liberian soldiers.
There are signs of political divisions within the RUF. The rebels have never had a popular base within Sierra Leone; they have always relied on Charles Taylor for their support. It now appears that Sesay may not have been Taylor’s first choice to replace Sankoh. Taylor preferred Sam ‘Maskita’ Bockarie, who, unlike Sesay, is based close to Taylor in Monrovia, the capital of Liberia. It appears that Sesay is more in control of the less organised RUF in the western part of Sierra Leone, while Bockarie and Taylor control the better-trained and better-equipped units in the east. The Kono diamond fields that fund both the RUF and Taylor are in the east as well, and the RUF are consolidating their grip on the area. There are frequent helicopter supply flights from Liberia (flown by Ukrainians), and numerous reports of rogue South African mercenaries and even Serbs, Israelis and an American running training camps and providing support.
Events in Liberia could influence what happens in Sierra Leone. A rebellion backed by dissidents in Guinea has destabilised the north of Liberia. The Liberian army has not received pay for some time now and seems ineffective and unreliable. Taylor no longer trusts his handpicked bodyguards either, despite their new equipment, recent training and higher pay. Instead, he seems to increasingly rely on Sierra Leoneans from the RUF for his personal protection. There were also rumours that his treacherous son, Chucky Taylor, may have tried to assassinate his father a few weeks ago, and was ‘demoted’ as a result. Therefore, Taylor’s days could be numbered, and if Taylor goes, so does the RUF.
The United Nations
A collapse of the Taylor regime could be just the thing needed to rescue the UNAMSIL peacekeeping mission. Since the Lomé Agreement broke down spectacularly in May, when a number of peacekeepers were killed and hundreds disarmed and taken hostage by the RUF, UNAMSIL has been licking its wounds in Freetown and its troop numbers have shrunk as a result of political disagreements and infighting. The currently authorised strength of 13,500 troops will decline when both the Indians and Jordanians pull out their battalions. UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan would like to increase troop numbers to 20,500, but few countries are stepping forward to offer soldiers to this ill-fated mission. In any case, no one seems to have any idea what UNAMSIL would do with the extra troops since the current troops are doing little beyond building and manning useless road blocks on the streets of Freetown. Sierra Leone’s deputy defence minister, Chief Hinga Norman, aptly described UNAMSIL as ‘an elephant without bones’.
UNAMSIL has a new commander, General Daniel Ishmael Opande of Kenya. He replaced Major-General Vijay Jetley of India who left after a disastrous political confrontation with his Nigerian lieutenants. The Nigerians have been involved in the Sierra Leonean war for many years and resented the fact that they were not given the leadership of the UNAMSIL mission. Worse, Jetley’s accusations (largely true) that top Nigerian officers were colluding with the RUF in the diamond trade ensured that Jetley would not stay long. General Opande has his work cut out for him, but he will be substantially aided by the fact that a very capable British officer, Brigadier Alastair Duncan, has been appointed as his deputy. Duncan has experience in both Bosnia and Northern Ireland which can only be good for the mission. The British influence in the country is crucial.
The British
From the Sierra Leonean perspective, the British are the most respected of all the key players in the country. The UN is regarded with contempt as a result of their collapse in May 2000 and their refusal to fight the RUF even though the mandate specifically allowed for this. The Nigerians are somewhat appreciated due to their willingness to shoot at the RUF when necessary, but at the same time they are derided for their lack of discipline and their involvement in diamond smuggling. But the British are a different story altogether and many Sierra Leoneans openly call for ‘recolonisation’.
The British are reluctant players but they raise the level of their involvement in Sierra Leone almost weekly. For several years they have been running essential programmes designed to reform the Sierra Leone Ministry of Defence, the police and legal system, and parliament. The collapse of UNAMSIL in May was a huge setback, and it meant that their programmes, designed for the medium and long term were in danger of being undermined by short-term events. British troops were rushed in to bolster the UN mission and may have prevented total collapse. This may have forced the British to increase their involvement beyond what is politically tenable.
The incident in September 2000 where the British had to rescue British Army officers taken hostage by a military faction (the West Side Boys) resulted in the death of an SAS soldier and was politically expensive. Still, since May, the British have been retraining the unreliable Sierra Leonean army in an effort to fill the short-term gap. Opinions are mixed as to the success of the retraining programme, and it is important to keep in mind that the Sierra Leonean Army has changed sides more than once. The retrained units will soon be tested in combat. Expectations are low but it is hoped that they will eventually be able to stand up to the RUF. If not, it will be another severe blow to the British goal of stabilising the country.
More recently, the British have sent the HMS Ocean—along with 400 crack Royal Marines—to a position within striking distance of Sierra Leone. These troops are unlikely to see any combat, but they do make the point that Britain is not going to stand by if the RUF threaten Freetown. They will also do much to bolster the spirits of the beleaguered UNAMSIL mission. This increasing involvement could cause serious political problems in Westminster if there is no quick resolution to the war. A British withdrawal would be a worst-case scenario for tiny Sierra Leone.
Paying for peace?
Many members of Sierra Leone’s civil society have called for a private solution. The South African private military company (PMC) Executive Outcomes virtually won the war back in 1997 but international pressure forced them to leave. Since then, more than ten thousand Sierra Leoneans have died as a direct result of the resumption of the brutal war.
Calls for a return of an Executive Outcomes-type company are strong, not just among Sierra Leoneans but also—off the record—among British and even UN personnel. From a military standpoint, ending the war in Sierra Leone is not a difficult proposition. PMCs have indicated that Sierra Leone could be secured in a matter of months with a few hundred professional soldiers—at a fraction of the cost of the current UN mission. Questions of transparency and accountability would have to be addressed first, but these issues seem trivial compared to the problems UNAMSIL is facing. The choice is between utilising a PMC to end the war, or watching the impotent UNAMSIL continue to dither while thousands more Sierra Leoneans die.
Conclusion
If the UN is left to find peace on its own, the result will most probably be a de facto division of the country between the RUF-occupied north and the government militia controlled south. UNAMSIL seems to be in no hurry to do anything, and is simply waiting for events to happen. If Taylor’s regime were to fall, then perhaps inaction is the easiest action, since the RUF will probably not survive long without Liberian support. However, if Taylor holds on to power, the RUF will continue to cause havoc in Sierra Leone and exacerbate regional instability through their attacks on Guinea. If that happens, the outlook for Sierra Leoneans will be much, much worse.
The British clearly want a quick resolution, and their new deputy in UNAMSIL may be there to push for more decisive action. The RUF are militarily incompetent, and sustained pressure by the better UN units, the retrained Sierra Leonean army, and the government militia could be enough to force a new peace agreement. Whether UNAMSIL is willing to become proactive instead of reactive remains to be seen. The quickest way to end the problem is for the UN to sub-contract the more robust military missions to a private company, but the political opposition to surrendering this role to private companies is formidable.
Subject: PATRIOTISM & TRIBALISM: The Most Misused Words On Cocorioko.
From: Bra Enviable
To: All
Date Posted: 13:21:42 08/15/08 ()
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Patriotism is a beautiful political word because it connotes love of country over personal, political pursuits. This word has been so misused on Cocorioko that a reality check is needed to save it from further misapplication. Since patriotism requires a citizen to choose between "country" and "self-promotion," a patriotic citizen in a multiparty democracy is expected to use his political party as an instrument to promote superior ideals for the furtherance of national ambitions. When the party abandons its professed national goals, a patriotic citizen is expected to raise a siren alarm against the perceived aberration. When the SLPP was in power, the party's derailment was so glaring that I spent every precious time revealing the inadequacies of those at the helm. From the BBC's "Focus on Africa" publications to "West Africa Magazine" in London, my unease with the party was expressed in fearless essays that caused quite a stir among my tribesmen. My kinsmen simply failed to understand why a son of Kailahun was publicly washing the dirty linens of people with whom he shares an unbreakable tribal link. Sierra Leoneans who saw me on Internet forums before Cocorioko were just as curious, thus raising probing questions about my consanguinity with those in power. Since I love Sierra Leone more than the SLPP, my criticisms of the party continued until I was vindicated by the mortifying defeat inflicted on us by the APC.
The reaction engendered by my criticism of the APC tells me that I am politically superior to my current political opponents. Few, if any, within the current company of APC men on Cocorioko, has the {political} graciousness to admit that Eernest Koroma has so far showed himself to be a worthless man. When the opposition is attacked by the ruling party's army of zealots, or cabinet ministers running amok like children lacking parental control, a PATRIOTIC APC man should raise an alarm well before an SLPP man blares his horn. I did it with the SLPP. APC patriots can do it, too. Ernest Koroma reminds me of Joseph Saidu Momoh, a fine and harmless gentleman with a demeanor so apathetic that Sierra Leone paid a severe price for the indifference that marked his years in power. The Momoh government was a free-for-all joke in which ministers and civil servants robbed Sierra Leone in plain sight. Ernest Koroma has taken the same pathway, as evidenced in the unruly gangs dispensing jungle justice to opponents, and the parallel group of dishonest men headed by the Attorney-General who stymies every step taken by State House. In the interest of Sierra Leone, this roguery must be revealed. I did so with the SLPP, and using the same plank to judge the APC should not make me a tribalist. Taking government to task is the civic responsibility of patriots, and going by my writings since 1996 when the SLPP came to power, I have served in the capacity of a patriot with every gene in my make-up. Calling me a tribalist on account of my criticism of the APC is, in itself, an unpatriotic distraction carried out by unpatriotic Sierra Leoneans.
Subject: Re: PATRIOTISM & TRIBALISM: The Most Misused Words On Cocori
From: Gbaytay Masiyah
To: All
Date Posted: 04:15:46 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: ishharkato@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: c83-248-235-239.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.235.239
Message:
In a nutshell the two have never been misused because it has been clear that the APC and northerners are the patriots while the SLPP and southeasterners are the hardcore celebrated tribalists.
How can people misuse what they know best?
Scratch an APCer and you will find a patriot!
Scratch an SLPPer and you will find a hardcore entrenched tribalist!
Subject: Re: PATRIOTISM & TRIBALISM: The Most Misused Words On Cocorioko.
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 01:20:04 08/16/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
"Patriotism is a beautiful
political word because it
connotes love of country
over personal, political
pursuits."
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Truer words Bra E and I must confess I do not doubt your patriotism. As for the misapplication of the word "tribalism", it is perobably safe to say you are one equal opportunity tribalist. But this comes with the territory and Cocorioko APC men are as guilty as your kinsmen who, according to you, "failed to understand why a son of Kailahun was publicly washing the dirty linens of people with whom he shares an unbreakable tribal link."
Keep the good work going Bra as this KING is one who thinks you are not only superior to your current political opponents, but also to your kinsmen who share identical traits.
Subject: Re: PATRIOTISM & TRIBALISM: The Most Misused Words On Cocori
From: Lorenzo
To: All
Date Posted: 17:12:33 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
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I really appreciate such an insight into the present political crisis engulfing our country. some people thought by pointing out these concerns, you are against the APC Government. They fail to realized that the last rebel war was as a result of; intimidation, tribalism, sectionalism,violence, and all the vices in a political setting. The APC government have started the same path that plunged the country to war. The likes of kabs-kanu have not raised an eyebrow on whats is happening in our country because the APC is more important to them than sierra leone. our country is slowly and slowly disintegrating.
Subject: Re: PATRIOTISM & TRIBALISM: The Most Misused Words On Cocorioko.
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 16:19:42 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
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Bra Enviable, I read your posting with interest because I obliquely directed criticism at you for this incendiary response you riposted to the war-mongering chicken hawk, General Konuowah, that is completely incongruous to the Bra Enviable I have come to admire on the forum.
You wrote:
"All I am saying is that our poor people should be left in peace. We cannot continue to be "peaceful" while they kill our people with the complicity of the state. We must either go our separate ways, or stand up and fight at some point".
I just felt that it was over the top and a play to the gallery. I am glad that you have clarified your stand. I don't believe you to be a tribalist, or any less patriotic than me. In fact the lazy accusations of tribalism and unpatriotism have also been launched at me by folks who are too lazy to back their assertions.
What I however furiously take exception to is the tendency of some partisans to make a constitutional crisis out of every political palaver. This is quite dangerous for the Republic. I really think that cooler heads need to prevail if democracy is to stand a chance. Leading a mob of angry supporters to a meeting, already agreed to by the president, was a sign of bad faith by the SLPP dons.
The misdeeds and wrongs committed by ministers in this government give me heartburn. As far as I am concerned the public spanking that the govt has received in this regard is well deserved. That however should not be an excuse to incite rebellion. What was the purpose of leading a protest brimming with Raray Boys to State House? Was it to lynch Ernest?
Democracy is a messy business but it is our only hope in this multitribal sardine can we happen to find ourselves in. 2012 is not too far away. Sierra Leone is still a democracy under Ernest Koroma. Opposition radio broadcasts without fear and opposition newspapers are bestsellers. No more petrol on the embers please.
Subject: Re: PATRIOTISM & TRIBALISM: The Most Misused Words On Cocorioko.
From: Real APC Democrat
To: All
Date Posted: 15:42:03 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Bra E, I am APC but you
have won me over. I will remain
APC forever but I need to talk
to you in person. Can you give your
email online to a decent APC man?
Cheers my brother.
Subject: Re: PATRIOTISM & TRIBALISM: The Most Misused Words On Cocorioko.
From: bobsonmans
To: All
Date Posted: 02:27:18 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: bobsonmans69@btinternet.com
Entered From: 5ac0b0c1.bb.sky.com at 90.192.176.193
Message:
I must give you credit Bra Enviable. I share the views you expressed in your article. The country's political system is so polarised along tribal lines, some people can't see beyond "APC and SLPP" or "mende and temne". Your assertion that you are patriotic enough to offer constructive criticisms no matter who is in power is very relevant. I am a keen reader of Sierra Leone's online media and i should state here only the editor of the Standard Times newspaper come closer to that.His tirade against the SLPP when in power and now the APC is well documented. Another one coming closer to tha is Paul Kamara, although he has gone somehow quite nowadays. His incanceration by Kabbah might have gagged him. I am a temne from Port Loko who has never associated himself with neither the APC or SLPP. I don't think the tensions created by the intense rivalry between the two parties will ever disappear. My experience as a child living with his parents in 1977 in Mokanji is a nightmare. I still have psychological scars as a result of political violence during the 1977 elections. Those SLPP-APC or mende-temne tensions then are as ever present today and will get worse in the future.I see the future of a peaceful Sierra Leone as one bereft of both parties. May long live Sierra Leone and not SLPP or APC.
Subject: APC DIRECTS KABS: Kabs to close FORUM discussion
From: Sahr Dugba
To: All
Date Posted: 11:52:51 08/15/08 ()
Email Address: dugba@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: conflictnchange.plus.com at 84.92.87.64
Message:
Kabs Kanu,
Is it true that APC has given you some bucks to close Forum discussions like they did to Hopeless Patriotic Vanguard? Please don't yiel;d to pressure like Gobril Koroma did in the case of depriving Sierra Leoneans from discussing pertinent issues on PV forum.
Subject: Re: APC DIRECTS KABS: Kabs to close FORUM discussion
From: Agnes K Macauley
To: All
Date Posted: 08:10:08 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: Agmonique@gmail.com
Entered From: host86-133-232-75.range86-133.btcentralplus.com at 86.133.232.75
Message:
See my earlier comment - please use your correct id and not Sahr Dugba - the Sahr Dugba I know and the other one also popularly called sahr are not politicians. Use your correct id or another alias and get or lose your political credibility.
Be brave man, be brave.
Subject: Re: APC DIRECTS KABS: Kabs to close FORUM discussion
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 16:41:17 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Another scurillous attack on the integrity of Kabs. Plese stop these reckless attacks.
Subject: Re: APC DIRECTS KABS: Kabs to close FORUM discussion
From: Be prepared
To: All
Date Posted: 16:32:24 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Nothing is the same if we believe it to be. We have to start finding alternatives just in case what you've dreamed of come to pass.
Subject: why so silent??????????????????
From: commanda
To: All
Date Posted: 11:10:17 08/15/08 ()
Email Address: stoicriph@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe000ea61f5d12-cm0012256f6564.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com at 99.241.159.233
Message:
was browzing for the past 2 days to know what went on at state-house for the past two days from darling coc.but to no avail.ur own version please.LONTA..........
always commanda.......................
Subject: SLPP sowing seed of discord!
From: Shark
To: All
Date Posted: 10:55:09 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
After the tribal SLPP lose the last elections, its next move that was discussed in close quarters, is to make Sierra Leone ungovernable. Its sting operation is to give tools to its upporters, disguising as APC supporters to cause mischief.
Sylvester Swarray is uinderground while Sheku Kallon takes the stage. APC must now reign firmyly on its detractors. he SLPP party headquaarters precinct, should be free from idel people who conveged there to plan evil.
he SLPP knows how to create war. Ninety five percent of its core memebers, are soaked with blood. hey are blood suckers
We are watchimg these crooks and blood suckers closely. hey ruled for eleven years and they did not deliver nothing.
This so-called violence is coming from the SLPP secret plan to destabilise our country. I wish the security team will act robustly, as the SLPP seeks to bring another war i our country. In a democratic state, JJ Saffa must be charged to court for inciting violence.
SLPP members obssesion for power and treachery must be nipped in the bud now.
Subject: Re: SLPP sowing seed of discord!
From: MUSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 13:08:53 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.152.21.30
Message:
Mr.Sharp,your delibrations may be right,with the thirst for power and blood deeply rooted in the mind set of the slpp unruly morons.Notwithstanding,if anyone caught, be it an APC supporter or SLPP to be behind the unrest should face the full force of the law.Having said that,the rhetoric of the primitive Saffa for a regional war is just an indication of his level of reasoning and his concern for the well being of the country.He is interested on gaining popularity or scoring points for his klan than peace to prevail in the country
Subject: Re: SLPP sowing seed of discord!
From: Tolongbo
To: All
Date Posted: 12:19:00 08/15/08 ()
Email Address: Bacchusmoi@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 96.248.92.101
Message:
No wonder you used the moniker-Shark- that feeds on flesh. I hope your's is not in replication of the Soko tangaise flesh eating brawl of yore(a betam).The SLPP had a lot of short comings like the filth and dilapidation of other infrastructures,but, the rate at which your tiffy tiffy crase APC cocaine buffoons are messing things up, I am comfortable with the former.In relation to the spate of violence and intimidation unleashed on our people, i only hope that the leadership of the SLPP will rise to the play and stop playing possum.Nobody wins in a violent situation but where a barbaric group thinks that they hold sway over gbosgbos, then the other side is left with litte recourse but to fight back.What is good for the goose should be good for the gander.Wake up sleepy heads and take these wimps at their game to teach them a lesson that harmonious living as a people is a precusor to development.
Subject: Re: SLPP sowing seed of discord!
From: Tolongbo
To: All
Date Posted: 03:13:13 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: soribaibureh@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 212.71.37.72
Message:
I am sure it would have been better if you could have used another name other than "Tolongbo". That name it is my bonafied name in the forum. It is true you can be my name-sake, but I prefer you call yourself 'Tolongbo Gbosgbose' because of your different approaches on national matters discussed in this blessed forum.
For the sake of personal freedom of expression, I kindly appeal to you not to use my name while insighting hatred and threat of war. I am totally a man of peace, nothing like peace for my country and the world
Subject: Re: SLPP sowing seed of discord!
From: thickhead
To: All
Date Posted: 12:10:58 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
How???
Subject: Re: SLPP sowing seed of discord!
From: Niceman
To: All
Date Posted: 12:48:56 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: p57a768c0.dip.t-dialin.net at 87.167.104.192
Message:
This the syndrom of a typical sierra leonean fool and foolishness combine is equal to bad heart.You SLPP loosers will not succeed,through the name of our lord.You even prefer a foreigner to rule us,because of your power thirst,but the people are no more fools,you soon reach your water low.
Subject: HIGH SCHOOLS IN SIERRA LEONE; ARE THEY RANKABLE?
From: Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas
To: All
Date Posted: 10:54:13 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
CKC, GRAMMAR SCHOOL, PRINCE OF WALSE, BO SCHOOL, ANNIE WALSH, FSSG,ALBERT ACADEMY, MBSS, MGSS, RICHARD ALLEN, INDEPENDENCE, COLLEGATE, CONVENT,GSSM, QRS, UCC, ST. HELENA, ETC, ETC.
A lot can be said for and against these schools. Some have produced notables (CKC=Dr.Curtis-Thomas, Solomon Berewa, Kabs-Kanu,? John Leigh, Charles Margai, etc.). Some have produced outstanding GCE results (although "leakage" have cast some doubts).
The critical question is: ARE SIERRA LEONE HIGH SCHOOLS RANKABLE? If the answer is yes then what yardstick can be used? Is this rankage based on GCE results, on the school's products, i.e. on "elitism"(by their fruits we shall know them), on sporting events, on the school's "name", how long the school has been in existence ,etc., etc.
FRANKLY I DO NOT THINK THAT SIERRA LEONE HIGH SCHOOLS CAN BE RANKED, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
Subject: Re: HIGH SCHOOLS IN SIERRA LEONE; ARE THEY RANKABLE?
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 23:40:55 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
Interesting how a very important message of discussion is being eclipsed, yet again, by our romantic affair with politics and those thuggish and kleptocratic southern-educated politicians like S.I. Koroma.(:
Can those knowledgable of this national disgrace please educate us. I know of this kid here in Virginia who graduated from a high school in Sierra Leone and cannot pass her GED after three attempts.
HIGH SCHOOLS IN SIERRA LEONE; ARE THEY RANKABLE?
Subject: Re: HIGH SCHOOLS IN SIERRA LEONE; ARE THEY RANKABLE?
From: two brains
To: All
Date Posted: 13:35:01 08/15/08 ()
Email Address: twobrain@yahoo.com
Entered From: 82-45-255-9.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.45.255.9
Message:
Why did you leave out Government Secondary School Koyeama, S I Koroma is attended that school.
Subject: Re: HIGH SCHOOLS IN SIERRA LEONE; ARE THEY RANKABLE?
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 15:08:50 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
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Koyeima??? Bo nor make SI vex nar een grave! SI Koroma is a proud Bo School boy.
Subject: Re: HIGH SCHOOLS IN SIERRA LEONE; ARE THEY RANKABLE?
From: Local History
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Date Posted: 15:38:37 08/15/08 ()
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I am not certain whether SI Koroma attended Bo School but he was CERTAINLY in Koyeima at some time in his school life..He may have been to both ...not sure!........
The fact is that between 1972 and 1980 ..a school desk in Koyeima....with the name SI Koroma carved on it ....had been preserved as a relic by school authorities who claimed he was their proud alum.
Can you provide any reference to substantiate your Bo school claim!
Subject: Re: HIGH SCHOOLS IN SIERRA LEONE; ARE THEY RANKABLE?
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 16:36:31 08/15/08 ()
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Culled this somewhere from the Sierra Leone Web
====SORIE IBRAHIM KOROMA
(1930-)
POLITICAL ORGANISER AND TACTICIAN
Sorie Ibrahim Koroma was born in Port Loko, Maforki Chiefdom, Port Loko District, in 1930. On of Sierra Leone's most vibrant political figures, S.I. Koroma was also involved in the labour movement of the 1950s. He blazed the trail for the implementation of the self-help idea which was an important aspect of rural development during the 1970s.
Educated at the Government Model School, Freetown, and at the Bo Government School, Mr. Koroma worked in the co-operative department from 1951 to 1958 and took a course during that time at the Co-operative College, Ibadan, Nigeria. In 1958, he resigned from government and went into private business while also becoming the first secretary-general of the Sierra Leone Motor Transport Union.
He was one of the founder members of the A.P.C., formed in 1960, and became the party's first National Propaganda and Organising Secretary. In this role, Mr. Koroma did his best to educate the people about their political rights, and won astounding success in bringing the A.P.C. to the people and increasing the popularity of the party. In 1962, S.I. Koroma was elected to parliament as M.P. for Freetown Central I Constituency.
In 1967, he was returned to parliament for the same constituency. Following the return to civilian rule in 1968, he became Minister of Trade and Industry in Siaka Stevens' first cabinet. In a cabinet reshuffle in 1969, he was appointed Minister of Agriculture and National Resources. On the attainment of republican status in 1971, S.I. Koroma became Vice-President and Prime Minister, and in another cabinet reshuffle in 1975 he was made Vice-President and Minister of Finance. Following the 1978 one party referendum, he was appointed First Vice-President, a position he held until his retirement from politics in 1986.
Popularly known as "S.I.," Mr. Koroma epitomised the hard-working, disciplined and relentless leader who was willing to lead his forces against any foe. He led the A.P.C. in many skirmishes during the early days then the party had to fight for its very survival. As the second-in-command in the party hierarchy, many people believe that his faithfulness and his untiring dedication to the defence of the A.P.C. at all costs sustained the party up to his retirement. For this relentless defence, he earned himself many enemies.
Mr. Koroma was for a long time the number two man of the party, but bowed out of the race for succession to Siaka Stevens when it became clear that Major-General Momoh had the support of the rank and file of the party as well as of the general populace. Mr. Koroma continues to be a high-ranking member of the ruling A.P.C. party, but has retired from government to devote his time and attention to the management of his oil palm plantation near his home town of Port Loko
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Subject: Re: HIGH SCHOOLS IN SIERRA LEONE; ARE THEY RANKABLE?
From: Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas
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Date Posted: 15:59:16 08/15/08 ()
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"Can you provide any reference to substantiate your Bo school claim!"
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Sorie Ibrahim Koroma
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sorie Ibrahim Koroma (born 1930 in Port Loko, Port Loko District, Sierra Leone – died sometime in the mid- to late 1990s) is a former Sierra Leonean politician and labor activist. He served as the Vice President of Sierra Leone from 1971 to retirement in 1985. He was a member of the Temne ethnic group.
Early history
After Koroma was educated in the Government Model School in Freetown and the Bo School in Bo, he went to work for the pre-independence government (1951 - 1958) after which he resigned and went into private business, where he was the first secreteary-general of the Sierra Leone Motor Transport Union.
Subject: Re: HIGH SCHOOLS IN SIERRA LEONE; ARE THEY RANKABLE?
From: two brains
To: All
Date Posted: 16:49:57 08/15/08 ()
Email Address: twobrains@yahoo.com
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We need to get the history right, there were three schools operating as parallel schools in the province of Bo. They were all govt schools namely- Bo school Koyeima and I think Jimmy School. Koyeama in particular shared the adimission intake with Bo school. Because of the railway and commercial development of Bo, Bo school subsumed Koyeima. Take it from me a lot of those who are OBBA members attended Koyeima and not Bo school. That was the arrangement until a certian time when there was a cut of period that made Koyeima acquired a separate identity.
S I Koroma went to both Bo School and Koyeima. He once addressed us at Koyeima whilst I was there and his name was written on the Gambia house dormitry ceiling where he had stayed.
People like the late S T Navo were all Koyeima boys. My late step father was refused a place at Koyeima but got a place at Bo school. He once told me that SI stoled a trousers from a chap in Liverpool house. The guy reported the matter to the late K I Kai-Samba who was the senior prefect. SI was adamant that the trousers was his, so K I asked the two of them to wear the trousers in turn. It did take long for KI to established the true owner.
Subject: Re: HIGH SCHOOLS IN SIERRA LEONE; ARE THEY RANKABLE?
From: Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas
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Date Posted: 16:55:44 08/15/08 ()
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"We need to get the history right, there were three schools operating as parallel schools in the province of Bo. They were all govt schools namely- Bo school Koyeima and I think Jimmy School. Koyeama in particular shared the adimission intake with Bo school. Because of the railway and commercial development of Bo, Bo school subsumed Koyeima. Take it from me a lot of those who are OBBA members attended Koyeima and not Bo school. That was the arrangement until a certian time when there was a cut of period that made Koyeima acquired a separate identity..."
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THANKS FOR THE EDUCATION, MY FRIEND. WE LIVE TO LEARN...did I hear you say,"and learn to live"?
Subject: Re: HIGH SCHOOLS IN SIERRA LEONE; ARE THEY RANKABLE?
From: CHIEFDOM ELDERS
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Date Posted: 14:11:21 08/15/08 ()
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Posted by two brains on August 15, 2008 at 13:35:01:
In Reply to: HIGH SCHOOLS IN SIERRA LEONE; ARE THEY RANKABLE? posted by Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas on August 15, 2008 at 10:54:13:
Why did you leave out Government Secondary School Koyeama, S I Koroma is attended that school.
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Posted by Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas on August 15, 2008 at 10:54:13:
CKC, GRAMMAR SCHOOL, PRINCE OF WALSE, BO SCHOOL, ANNIE WALSH, FSSG,ALBERT ACADEMY, MBSS, MGSS, RICHARD ALLEN, INDEPENDENCE, COLLEGATE, CONVENT,GSSM, QRS, UCC, ST. HELENA, ETC, ETC.
It was not the intention of the doctor to leave out nor marginalize that school. That school was "grouped" under ETC, ETC.
Subject: On The Spectre Of A Military Hyena ...
From: Retired Banker
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Date Posted: 10:52:55 08/15/08 ()
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Uman Lappa (laconic handle that masks a thoughtful personality!) sounds a warning note below that deserves serious attention. Is it only a benevolent military regime that can maintain the order required to shape and develop our country? With hindsight, many Sierra Leoneans agree Brig. Andrew Juxon-Smith was a better option to what ensued.
Personally, I've always thought an adversarial, multi-party system based on tribes and clans is a recipe for disaster. We simply can't afford it at this stage of our development. How can anyone govern effectively or implement progress in a perpetually hostile atmosphere? It makes a nonsense of democracy and explains why sub-Saharan Africa is still so far behind.
You can only rule people with consent. If they refuse then you can only either impose authority by military might (Gambia, Equatorial Guinea, Congo, Sudan etc.), or negotiate autonomous, federated regions (Nigeria, Belgium). Some might even want outright independence (Ireland, Kosovo).
The old, pre-slavery, pre-colonial African model was based on CONSENSUS rule and TRADE exchanges. It is clear the major tribal groups in Sierra Leone are not prepared to work within a single political entity. Military conquest is no longer acceptable, so the alternative is to allow people to develop side by side until the pressures of globalisation force amalgamation for commerce and international dealings. Some visionary leaders are already promoting an 'African Way' philosophy "that will make the over 2,000 African ethnic groups see themselves as one and not different." - See link to article below.
Those who argue that the passage of time will bring integration should look around the world today. Everywhere (including long-established western democracies), people are fighting for more self-determination; not less. Even if Pres. Koroma packs his cabinet with South-Easterners as suggested, there would still be clannish resistance to centralised rule.
So the choice is clear. We can admit honestly that all this APC/SLPP fighting is a front for simmering tribal wishes for self-determination and work things out. Or we can risk giving birth to another self-appointed 'saviour' like Jonny Paul Koroma.
NA DE WORD DAT!
(Follow link for article)
Subject: Re: On The Spectre Of A Military Hyena ...
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 12:22:09 08/15/08 ()
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I have no doubt that the reckless sabotage of democracy by provocative action by partisans will eventually give ideas to the waiting military politicians who are already sniffing for opportunity. If the politicos cannot resolve issues in parliament or in the exclusive clubs they all frequent, and instead pump out demonstrations, protest marches and the wildest possible allegations by their journalist allies, then let's brace for the next batch of illiterate soldiers. One thing about soldiers: they kill at random, wreck economies and steal like weasels. It won't happen here? Think again. It happened in Mauritania, didn't it?
You hit it on the nail about how simmering tribal tensions have infested our politics. Politicians bereft of of ideas often dive into the gutter of tribalism to maintain power. What is really distressing about this, however, is to see otherwise cosmopolitan diasporans, with tons of education and urbane experience, away from the village, fall for the demagoguery and chicanery of half-baked politicians.
We are at the precipice of an abyss. We need to back off now. A civil politics please. Judicial and parliamentary inquiries, yes. Alarmist and hyperbolic political F/T journalism, no. Consensus and meetings between political leaders, yes. Street protests and incendiary political demonstrations at State House, no.
Subject: Strong warning to participants on this forum
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 10:35:41 08/15/08 ()
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As responsible people committed to peace , we have given you a free forum but we will not allow you to degrade the sanctity of this forum .
I have not been available for a week and I am disappointed at some of the posts I have seen so far. I know that many of you are desperate for power and you will bring another war to Sierra Leone .Nobody needs a prophet to foretell this. The bitterness, bile, anger, intolerance, and wilful and wicked twisting of facts and pre-emption of events in your posts clearly show men and women who have lost it. Some of you have become worse than the thugs you criticize. Your words are thuggish and violent.
You don't help us to pay for this forum or any of the free services we offer .We cannot therefore allow you to bash us unfairly and unnecessarily. We are not Ernest Koroma's Spokesmen. We are an online newspaper and whether our reports are favourable to the APC or not is our business. You want everything to go your way. You have that Winner-Takes-All mentality. AWARENESS TIMES, THE NEW PEOPLE, THE VISION and the DEMOCRAT are pro-SLPP. Why don't you bother them about their coverage or non-coverage of the cocaine scandal or the APC/SLPP crisis ? It is alright for opposition newspapers to slant stories and lie because they support the SLPP. As far as Sierra Leone is concerned, anything the SLPP does or anything done on their behalf is right, even if it is wrong. One cannot even praise the APC for the good things they do. It is evil.It is you people, not "APC tHUGS", who will bring another war to Sierra Leone. Your intolerance and provocation are mostly responsible for all the chaos in Sierra Leone.
We will not allow you to degrade us on our own forum. When the AT Forum was up, I never saw you attack the proprietor for anything she did or wrote. You are stinking hypocrites and the putridness and stench of your hypocrisy will bring war to our country once again.
We have been compelled to take away the priviledges of one or two people on this forum. We don't know about any Jacob Kanu because we did not ban any Jacob Kanu, except ofcouse you want to tell us that Jacob Kanu is the one using many different fake handles to launch obscene attacks on us. If the IP banned belongs to Jacob Kanu, that just shows the kind of man he is.
We are not going to restore anybody banned. We know what we are doing and we don't ban people for nothing. We ban them because they violate our rules and regulations.
We are free men and women and we are free to support the APC if that is what we want to do.If that hurts any of you, you can go and butt the Cotton Tree in the centre of the city. I don't see any reason for the abuses we are being subjected to and we will not allow anyone to use our own sweat to fry us.
The forum is free but there are rules.Since you Sierra Leoneans do not like rules, decide whether you want to be on our forum and obey the rules or you are banned for not obeying them.
Subject: Re: Strong warning to participants on this forum
From: CocainRIoko
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Date Posted: 16:38:53 08/15/08 ()
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THe Reverend does not want us to talk about how useless Ernest Koroma and his APC gang of thieves are
Subject: Re: Strong warning to participants on this forum
From: dumbeh
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Date Posted: 12:09:25 08/15/08 ()
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Most sierra leoneans cannot debate intelligently and peacefully. You are wasting your time trying to civilise them, Kabs. Wasting your time and causing yourself too much pain.
Subject: Re: Strong warning to participants on this forum
From: Niceman
To: All
Date Posted: 11:37:28 08/15/08 ()
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SLPP party is a party of failures,we know their dirty tricks but just wait and see,something different is on the pipeline.APC knows SLPP medcine,very soon things will start to change.They felt that they are the only one who knows to kill and carnibalise,it is because of faith and human right that considering the swift action on those so called opposition who doesnt know the work of an opposition rather inciting for people to take note on them.unu cup done full ya.
Subject: Niceman My foot!
From: Man to Man
To: All
Date Posted: 12:26:54 08/15/08 ()
Email Address: Bacchusmoi@yahoo.com
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What is nice about you? Mr. ugly and primitive buffoon.This time round, your threat is hollow as the people are determine to match you man to man.Remember Kedenka, Baba yayah and the Kailahun incident in the Shaki era? I hope you dont chicken out this time round-wimp and Soko Cannibal.
Subject: Re: Niceman My foot!
From: Niceman
To: All
Date Posted: 13:05:33 08/15/08 ()
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Frustation and carnibalism is the only education you people got in your enpty skull.You wasted eleven years given to you to govern and now proud to be the likes of,kendekas,ndogbowusu,kamajos,etc,you soon reap what you sow.
Subject: Our freedoms without showing us our resposibilities
From: Natural Justice
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Date Posted: 10:08:34 08/15/08 ()
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In the interest of natural justice, a nation according freedom rights to its citizenry should first embark on educating its citizenry their responsibilities to the state and that state's responsibilities to its citizenry.
In vain you build a house of glass if you do not first build the man that is going to live in the glass house.
The bulk of our populace need education. Not the education of passing exams to gain degrees but that basic understanding of the make-up of our surroundings - the family; the neighbour; the different cultures and their values; the state's governmental arms; and the value of moral life.
The re-introduction of civics in every facet in our society will curb the present state of tension amongst us.
Subject: How many residents were at the SLPP HQ on the day?
From: Adikalie Mountain
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Date Posted: 09:52:01 08/15/08 ()
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I am looking at the alleged attack on the SLPP HQ with an opon mind and would ask to know:
a) the number of people that were present when the alleged attack took place?
b) what time of the day did the attack occur?
c) What was the purpose of the gathering at the party office?
d) Where were the APC supporters?
e) After the alleged disorderly behaviour incidents on the Mayor, were the complaint taken seriously by the police?
f) The alleged APC members who camped outside the mayor's office, were they there for his secutiry?
g) What are the required conditions under which an authority will have to have party members as his security personnel?
The many will have to fight the few that put their interests above those of the nation.
Subject: The Hypocrites
From: CocainRioko
To: All
Date Posted: 09:37:31 08/15/08 ()
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Have you read CocainRioko's hypocritical statement on the violence by APC in Freetown?
Subject: Cocorioko bans Jacob Kanu for not being APC
From: Political Interance
To: All
Date Posted: 09:21:34 08/15/08 ()
Email Address: ad657@yahoo.com
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The Holy Man, why have your intolerant boys banned Brother Jacob...
Remember, you journalists should be advocating freedom of speechm not muzzling it. I hope you did not get orders from the Urine splashing State House.
Please let us learn to show some political tolerance. Rev, sir everyone cannot be APC and propose you demonstrate some christian virtues here and be fair and equitable.
Subject: Re: Cocorioko bans Jacob Kanu for not being APC
From: Adikalie Mountain
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Date Posted: 09:58:06 08/15/08 ()
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This urine issue: Was it a case of buckets load of urine splash on how many people?
Subject: Re: Cocorioko bans Jacob Kanu for not being APC
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 10:03:35 08/15/08 ()
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No.. Piss-cup load.
Subject: Re: Cocorioko bans Jacob Kanu for not being APC
From: MUSA KAMARA
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Date Posted: 12:02:00 08/15/08 ()
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This is a shameless coward(alieu) with million monikers.Please dont treat his postings serious.He is a low cast among human beings
Subject: Re: Cocorioko bans Jacob Kanu for not being APC
From: Adikalie Mountain
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Date Posted: 10:16:58 08/15/08 ()
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A very terrible evil if it is true. I am just imagining this evil character, unbuttoning his trousers and taking out his lilly nelly, pissing in the cup and throwing it on others (fellow citizens). How uncouthed?
We need to understand ourselves to thinking of advancing our minds matter.
Subject: Re: Cocorioko bans Jacob Kanu for not being APC
From: Lef for lie
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Date Posted: 10:14:06 08/15/08 ()
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Alieu yu bin smell di piss? Or are yuou just lying and spreding propaganda as usual?
Subject: Re: Cocorioko bans Jacob Kanu for not being APC
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 10:20:38 08/15/08 ()
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Part of the delegation to STATE-HOUSE.. Yeri? intelli?
Subject: Re: Cocorioko bans Jacob Kanu for not being APC
From: Lef for lie
To: All
Date Posted: 10:38:19 08/15/08 ()
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What intelli? You bin dae nar de delegation? Den splash piss pan you? Or are you just trying to fan political hatred in the country?
Subject: WHAT IS ALL THIS AGAIN?
From: ApC THugs
To: All
Date Posted: 08:30:36 08/15/08 ()
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Premier News
WHAT IS ALL THIS AGAIN?
(Friday 15 August, 2008)
With Theo Nicol
Once again the nation was woken up to a rude shock when news filtered in that the SLPP office was vandalized on Wednesday morning, allegedly by some unruly APC supporters whom an SLPP official said had been camped for days at the Freetown City Council by the newly inaugurated Mayor, Herbert George Williams.
It is a sad testimony to the fact that we are still politically intolerant in the nation and that thuggery and vandalalism, a hallmark of the last APC party headed by Siaka Stevens is again rearing its ugly head in our body politic.
It is a shame that the more civil societies and even the Government tries to let peace and sanity prevail in post election Sierra Leone, the more some unscrupulous people try to disturb the peace and stability of our beloved country.
The attack of the SLPP office is condemnable, despite the defence or rather the denial of the event by the minister of Information, Alhaji I.B.kargbo as reported by yesterday’s dailies.
It is an allegation, officially, that those who attacked the SLPP office are thugs hired by some members of the APC. But it is a fact that the office was attacked. That cannot be denied as there are photographs to prove it and the office is there for anyone who wishes to cross-check to do so.
No matter what the Minister or anyone else will say, thuggery and vandalism are crimes against the state and against the affected. And the police, that allegedly took two hours to get to the scene of the attack, which is a three minutes walk from the central police station, must be able to make more than the four arrests it had made by the time of writing.
They eventually got to the scene and had to operate within a mob of over two hundred people. How come then that they couldn’t make more arrests so that their investigation into the matter will be swift?
It is dangerous for members of the opposition party to believe that the police are on the side of the ruling party and that protection can only be enjoyed by politicians on the other side of the divide. When such belief is concretized by the aloofness of the same police in matters that concern the SLPP, that is an invitation for anarchy.
The police are a national institution supported and financed by public funds. And that includes taxes from members of the opposition parties. The police, which are part of the justice system, must be seen to be fair to all and must protect all regardless of party affiliations or convictions.
It is unfortunate that after a rather peaceful Local Government election nationwide, some unpatriotic citizens are bent on fomenting trouble that is already making headlines in foreign news including the BBC world News. The BBC and all the news agencies from the west are always interested in news about us that will confirm their stereotype and their prejudice that nothing good can come out of Africa. We should not give them the opportunity to say they are right about us.
Our politicians must not use the vulnerable youths in our society to cause trouble. That is why I am finding it difficult to believe Jacob Jusu Saffa’s allegation that the alleged thugs that invaded his party headquarters were sponsored by the new mayor, Herbert George Williams.
What will be his motive? And what was he trying to achieve if the SLPP offices were vandalized? Despite reports that Williams was not given a pleasant reception by the SLPP members after his inauguration at the stadium on Monday, I still want to believe that Williams knows far more than to send men to retaliate on his behalf in an eye for an eye fashion.
I hear he is a born again Christian who certainly does not believe in the Moses law of an eye for an eye.
As a Christian, meaning a follower and believer in Christ Jesus, he is now saved so that he can turn the other cheek. That is what makes the whole issue more confusing.
I will end this piece by saying that it is better for APC politicians and their SLPP counterparts to continue to tread the path of peace and reconciliation. That is why their meeting with the Vice president on Wednesday was a step in the right direction whether the meeting achieved anything in their favour or not. Two wrongs certainly cannot make one right.
Indeed the problems of the country will not be wished away. The problems will not just go away in a few months. The acrimony and bitterness between the two rival parties over the years will certainly not be erased by wishful thinking.
But they all will be mitigated by constant effort of both parties and others to work for peace and tranquility in our nation.
This country belongs to all Sierra Leoneans regardless of their party and political persuasions.
That is why the Government must make conscious effort to work for peace. Statements from any official that is contrary to that may only incite more trouble and be looked at as more fuel to the already burning flame. We all must be cautious of our utterances at the moment and let peace reign in our land.
Only through peace can we continue our march to progress and development which our country so badly needs. So help us God.
That is my view.
Subject: Re: WHAT IS ALL THIS AGAIN?
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 08:51:51 08/15/08 ()
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"Our politicians must not use the vulnerable youths in our society to cause trouble. That is why I am finding it difficult to believe Jacob Jusu Saffa’s allegation that the alleged thugs that invaded his party headquarters were sponsored by the new mayor, Herbert George Williams"
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Let all the partisans look at the conduct of their respective parties and decide what's up.
Although the writer's article is full of "allegedly" and "reportedly", it actually indicts both parties. If the APC mayor really camped thugs at city hall, then he ought to be sanctioned, but please show the proof. If the SLPP supporters who joined the protest march to State House were actually vulnerable youths, then let's sanction SLPP for the politics of cynicism. It really cuts both ways.
Subject: He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool
From: CHIEFDOM ELDERS
To: All
Date Posted: 08:29:26 08/15/08 ()
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Posted by Mohamed Kutubu Koroma on August 14, 2008 at 09:49:11:
In Reply to: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma and Dr. Curtis: Two Rubbish Dumpers posted by Forum Lover on August 14, 2008 at 09:37:40:
"Frankly,i can relate to your concern because you do not have the intellectual alliteration to publish anything that can convey sense to you let alone the vast concourse of the readers.
"WHEN THE FOX DOES NOT HAVE THE GRAPES,IT SAYS IT IS SOUR".
Finally,i have never assumed liability for one's intellectual weakness,nor i am ready to accept one on your part.
You have the choice not to read the "RUBBISH".I however have the feeling that i am personally bridging your emptiness and for that matter,you should be very thankful.Also remember,it is within the constrains of free speech that i elect to write.You either put up,or shut up.Plain and simple.
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Posted by Brabanxx on August 14, 2008 at 12:33:58:
In Reply to: Re: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma and Dr. Curtis: Two Rubbish Dumpers posted by Mohamed Kutubu Koroma on August 14, 2008 at 09:49:11:
"Please heed to the advice that was given to you by one of our forumites. Your statement above does not make sense. You are full of arrogance and ego. Sometimes your arrogance preceeds your ego. This is an example of such a stance. In as much as some of us come to this forum to learn, we do not want to put others down; so to speak. I think a profilic writer's goal should be that of effectively communicating to the readers.
Here's dictionary.com's take on your impressive word-alliteration:
1. the commencement of two or more stressed syllables of a word group either with the same consonant sound or sound group (consonantal alliteration), as in from stem to stern, or with a vowel sound that may differ from syllable to syllable (vocalic alliteration), as in each to all. Compare consonance (def. 4a).
2. the commencement of two or more words of a word group with the same letter, as in apt alliteration's artful aid.
Some forumites have earned degrees which in your remaining span of a lifetime, you will not be able to earn. This is however not the place to placard the names. Even though some of us are masked behind various monikers, I will assure you that time and circumstance will restore the genuine. Please MKK spare us the jagon next time."
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Posted by Mohamed Kutubu Koroma on August 14, 2008 at 20:15:20:
In Reply to: Re: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma and Dr. Curtis: Two Rubbish Dumpers posted by Brabanxx on August 14, 2008 at 12:33:58:
"It is self serving stoolies of your ilk who are the cause of the nation's teething problems.
Your sense of excellence,sense of bigness,and fixed grandeur.Who cares for your so called "DEGREES"you make claims to?
The likes of you are so awashed in stark ignorance that nothing will be done to save you.
If i should remind you,it is position such as the one you have adopted that constitutes the bane affecting Dr.Abdulai Conteh when he goes about thinking that he is the Alpha and Omega of academia.
Your so called "Degrees "are as insignificant to me as your very humanity."
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Posted by Listen To Common Sence on August 14, 2008 at 11:19:34:
In Reply to: Re: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma and Dr. Curtis: Two Rubbish Dumpers posted by Mohamed Kutubu Koroma on August 14, 2008 at 09:49:11:
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma, you have vindicated your critic. What you wrote in response is so full of nonsense that you need to go back to school.
You tried to talk about intellectual prowess, but you ended up being the intellectually insignificant. Please listen to FORUM LOVER's advice and reduce the rubbish posted here. Although we may not like what they say, this forum tends to look more interesting when men with brains and intellectual prowess write. Please reduce the trash you dump on us every minute with long idiotic postings.
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Posted by Londoner on August 14, 2008 at 10:01:55:
In Reply to: Re: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma and Dr. Curtis: Two Rubbish Dumpers posted by Mohamed Kutubu Koroma on August 14, 2008 at 09:49:11:
'intellectual alliteration'
Mohamed,
What does the above expression mean or supposed to mean?
I think you need to pay this website a visit: www.plainenglish.co.uk
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Posted by Mohamed Kutubu Koroma on August 14, 2008 at 20:30:19:
In Reply to: Re: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma and Dr. Curtis: Two Rubbish Dumpers posted by Londoner on August 14, 2008 at 10:01:55:
"Mr.Londoner",i have just said in my posting in reply to that misguided and ignorant upstart that i do not assume liability for one's intellectual weakness.
If you do not have the cognitive ability to discern my postings,it is too bad and there is absolutely nothing i can do to the effect.
I am not on this forum to engage any one in the collegiate battle of the brains.In short,i am not here to show who i am or what my intellectual standing is or lack thereof.The thing about us Sierra Leoneans is that we are too showoffish.We always want to impress upon others that we are the best educated.That explains while the nation finds itself at critical cross roads.Until we change our attitude,mentality,and perception of who we are,Sierra Leone is headed for the abyss of annihillation.That is all i have to say to you sir."
Subject: Re: He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a
From: Curious
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Date Posted: 09:00:17 08/15/08 ()
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All Ya bluff and superlative big talks,I am curious to know what the uFck you all have done for ya country or yourselves?.......
Subject: Police Boss Accused Of Insubordination
From: Owai Orcociane
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Date Posted: 08:22:47 08/15/08 ()
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Police Boss Accused Of Insubordination
Premier News
(Thursday 14 August, 2008)
By Aruna Kamara
The Assistant Inspector General of Police in Charge of the Southern Region, D.D Buck is reported to have been accused by the Resident Minister of Southern Region, Hon Musa Tarawallie of gross insubordination for failing to take instructions from him in respect of the riot in Bo on Saturday, allegedly perpetrated by APC supporters.
Speaking to Premier News in an interview, AIG Buck confirmed that the minister called him and he refused to go.
The minister, he further said, gave him information about the violent attacks prior to the violence in Bo on Saturday and told him not to grant the SLPP clearance to rally on the streets on Saturday to celebrate the victory of their councilors.
AIG Buck stated that he told him that every request for clearance would be looked into.
According to him, the security arrangements put in place in collaboration with the executive of the SLPP for the rally, was violated which degenerated into violence and this prompted the intervention of the police.
“My work ethics states that I should be at the incident command centre and monitor and give instructions to ensure that the incident is put under control and I will not take instruction from anybody which I consider unlawful”, he stressed, adding that if he had attended to the call of the minister, things would have gone out of control.
“I go strictly by the dictates of the law” the police boss said, adding that “I will live by the tenets of my profession because I took an oath for it”
He said that he is not political in making decisions, adding that the police will not deprive anyone of their right to carry out certain things that are not a threat to the state.
“I will not be distracted. I will continue with my work professionally.
The long hand of the law will reach those who want to be disorderly” AIG Buck further emphasized, adding that the people should have confidence in the police and that they should not be surprised to always see the military with them, as they are trying to consolidate peace.
Some members of the civil society have lauded the effort of the police for putting the situation under control. They also said that the Resident Minister should not accuse him of insubordination, for failing to attend the meeting.
Subject: SLPP Plans Will Boomerang
From: Neutralist
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Date Posted: 08:19:51 08/15/08 ()
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SLPP Plans Will Boomerang
SLPP gives the impression that they are innocent victims of APC attacks. They have created a picture frame of aggression and brutality that they are politically trying to fit the ruling APC into. This is a dangerous trend in the nation. SLPP leadership must cease from such ill-conceived actions. Blatantly or subtly, they are busy trying to fashion similar events and circumstances that led to the rebel war and demise of the former APC government. They have a plan calling for the reemergence of the SLPP as the rescuers of Sierra Leone.
The northern region of Sierra Leone is the APC stronghold. Why is it that every time you hear about brawls it is mainly in the south, the SLPP stronghold? Are the SLPP members innocent victims? Highly doubtful. Where are the gatekeepers of the south? Would they admit that the northern tribal leaders have done an outstanding job in preventing lawlessness in their northern communities? The SLPP is bent on making APC the political “identified patient” in Sierra Leone.
There are no boundaries to fit the APC into a conceived dysfunctional frame. SLPP will label APC bullies and troublemakers in Sierra Leone. In their minds, APC is the ‘identified patient.’ The term refers to a family member who is dubbed the perceived harmful and mentally unstable individual. Often, their behavior is an indication of a greater struggle and conflict within the family. We talk about the closeness of the Sierra Leonean family but the nation as a whole is dysfunctional.
There are many disorders in the political atmosphere in the nation for which SLPP is equally responsible. However, it is more convenient to blame APC. The SLPP shares more of the blame for the deplorable socio-economic situation in the nation. However, it is more convenient to blame APC. Abuse, alcoholism, infidelity, drug addictions, corruption in high and low places, malnourishment, delinquencies, behavior problems and unwarranted aggression are prevalent across the nation. However, it is more convenient to blame APC. Politicians on both sides have failed the people of Sierra Leone. However, it is more convenient to blame the APC. The SLPP has constantly failed to take responsibility for their role in the appalling state of affair in Sierra Leone.
Instead, SLPP is constantly trying to invalidate APC. Let SLPP tell it, APC members are thuggish, illiterates, drug dealers, and unfit to lead Sierra Leone. Let SLPP tell it, Sierra Leone was experiencing an economic boom and had nothing to do with the drug trade now. Let SLPP tell it, Sierra Leone is retrogressing back into chaos because of APC rule. SLPP would say, “The people made an unsound choice in electing majority of APC politicians and an APC President.”
The southerners need to examine their concealed appetite for violence while openly accusing others. It just will not work this time. The Mendes are as guilty of violence as the Temnes, Konos, Lokos, Mandingoes, Limbas and etc. In some areas, we want to be rigid and in other areas, we are too loose. Sierra Leone needs a delicate balance. Sierra Leoneans have issues and we need more than tissues to resolve them.
SLPP likes projecting itself as the sane, wise, placid, intelligent, democratic and peaceful Party. It is not by coincidence that SLPP supporters disrupt President Koroma on his trip to the south to administer the oath of office to elected officials. It is not by coincidence that the North America branch held its so-called convention to elect officials within the same period. It is not by coincidence that you hear about the “Wheeler Dealer Attorney General.” Whose debt is the AG trying to pay? If the SLPP was responsible, why did they leave such a huge amount unsettled? Only God knows how many people have gone unpaid due to the former government not honoring their debts. Say what you may, “Honest debts must be paid.” It is not by coincidence that along the Bo Kenema highway killing, robberies and attacks are happening.
Since the people of the city have chosen their mayor and chose him freely and fairly, why try to start mess in the city? Should not all Sierra Leoneans seek after the peace of the nation? Why provoke others when you know the atmosphere is tensed? In addition, when something goes wrong, they are ready to send a delegation to see the President.
SLPP needs to accept and respect the decision of the majority of Sierra Leoneans. The APC is the ruling Party. Unlike the past, SLPP cannot bring APC down this time by negatively tagging the Party with corruption, brutality and violence. Sierra Leoneans can see through their gullible ploy.
A case in point. When Bill Clinton won the presidency against Bush senior, the Republicans tried to discredit and hinder Clinton’s administration. Newt Gingrich, the Republican leader at the time, spearheaded the plan for the Federal government shutdown in 1995 and 1996. The legislators failed to agree on a budget to finance government programs for that fiscal year. Except essential services, all other aspects of the Federal government were shutdown. The first shutdown lasted five days and the second lasted 21 days.
The Republican plan backfired on their leadership and led to a major political victory for President Clinton. It was later revealed that Gingrich is trifling, inconsiderate, self-centered and conniving. Similarly, SLPP is made up of trifling, inconsiderate, self-centered and conniving leaders. The American people discerned that even with his “Contract with America” he did not have the best interest of the Americans at heart. Similarly, notwithstanding their sweet talk for Sierra Leone, the SLPP do not have the best interest of Sierra Leoneans at heart. Newt’s contract was a selfish treaty. SLPP plans are selfish. The American people supported and appreciated President Clinton for standing up to political bullies in the House and Senate. The people of Sierra Leone will support and appreciate President Koroma for standing up to southern political bullies.
SLPP BEWARE! Sierra Leoneans everywhere are watching developments in the nation and across the world. Much as the party might want the world to believe the APC is guilty of violence against innocent civilians, the world knows whose hands are stained with the blood of the innocent. Sierra Leoneans know what SLPP is attempting to do. To regain power at all cost. If it means ‘throwing stones and hide your hand,’ then the party is ready to take that route. If it means disturbing the peace whilst blaming APC, then the party is ready to do just that. If it means painting a negative picture of APC to the world, then the party is ready to do that. If is means rewriting the failed legacies of the previous government to let it read like the manifesto of the new government, then the party is ready to do just that. This time however, the plans of the SLPP will have a boomeranging effect. SLPP will fail horribly because Sierra Leoneans can no longer be brainwashed.
Subject: Re: SLPP Plans Will Boomerang
From: O'toole
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Date Posted: 09:42:20 08/15/08 ()
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Every man has a right to his opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts.
A hard-liner's admission: " My mind's made up! Don't confuse me with the facts!" BB
Subject: SLPP Headquarter Attack
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SLPP Headquarter Attack
Premier News
(Thursday 14 August, 2008)
By Kelvin Roberts & Alusine Sesay
The party headquarters of the Sierra Leone People’s Party at Wallace Johnson Street, Freetown was attacked yesterday morning at 7:00 am by thugs alleged to be supporters of All People’s Congress Party.
As tension mounted in the vicinity of the party headquarters, police had to fire canisters of tear gas to disperse the crowd and calm down the situation.
The building was completely vandalized and property worth millions of Leones including computers and office furniture were destroyed.
Speaking to Premier News, Rahim Sesay explained that whilst a repeat broadcast of the national news was being aired, his co-announcer rushed into the studio and informed him that the building was under attack from men dressed in black coats with sticks, stones and bottles in their hands.
He said that when he looked through the window from the city council end, he saw over 40 men moving from the council compound towards the party building.
He stated that the moment they spotted him, they started throwing stones and bottles at the building. He disclosed to Premier News that they were able to gain access in to the building by breaking open the main entrance to the building.
He explained that they were able to gain entrance to the studio by cutting the hard board on the ceiling with some cutting materials.
According to him, when the police arrived they hurriedly left.
When Premier News contacted Abukarr Salieu aka ‘DJ Police’ who was also on duty at the time he narrated that he had just instructed that the gate be opened for a lady who sells food at the office when he saw men dressed in black coats with sunglasses on, red hand band and APC t-shirt on, rushing towards the building.
He added that the men were coming from inside city council office.
He revealed that they forcefully gained entrance in to the building and then started to beat up some of the SLPP supporters. He disclosed that these men had camped at the city council for days.
The Assistant Inspector General of Police in charge of Western Area, SIS Koroma explained that when the police got to the scene they met about 200 people fighting each other. He added that it was not easy for the police to bring the situation under control.
AIG Koroma disclosed that four people have been arrested so far and are helping the police in the investigation. He stated that it is still not known what led to the fighting but they are investigating.
But SLPP members that are in the office said all those arrested are their supporters who were attacked by the thugs.
A journalist from the Awareness Times Newspaper, Umarr Siter Turay alleged that the memory card was removed from his camera by AIG SIS Koroma when he was videoing the police whilst they were aiding the fleeing attackers at the party office.
AIG SIS Koroma explained that he was at the scene when somebody forcefully took Turay’s camera. He added that he took the camera from the person for protection because he personally knew Turay as a journalist not knowing that the memory card had been taken from the camera.
When contacted on the matter, the Secretary General of the SLPP Jacob Jusu Saffa said this shows the true nature of the APC. He expressed dismay that it took the police two hours before they arrived at the scene and started to fire tear gas at them inside the building.
He noted that this action of the APC is a sign of worse days to come for the country. He claimed that the attackers has been camped at the city council office by Mayor Herbert Williams.
He stated that they as a party will meet and decide what next to do. He informed Premier News that the offices were completely looted and even the generators carted away.
Subject: Uman Lappa
From: Two warriors fight to the death: the military hyena waits!
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Date Posted: 08:15:11 08/15/08 ()
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Seems like we did not learn anything from our country's not-too-distant cataclysmic past. Here we are barely a decade removed from one of the most horrific civil conflicts on the African continent and already people are already assisiously pouring petrol on politics and tribe.
Every sensational headline by the tabloid press is now a constitutional crisis and a call to war. Semi-literate journalists with an axe to grind are having a field day jerking people around and causing trouble.
I bet that if a half-drunk partisan journalist finishes taking a dump over a squat hole and mishievously writes that armed men are plotting to attack an SLPP leader, some forumites will be calling for Ernest Koroma's scalp and calling for civil war!
This government's mistakes and sins have been chastised ad nauseam. I really believe that some of the political pain he is experiencing is a direct result of his reckless decision to have a Nirthern-based government. I don't care what some of my fellow APC partisans think but I seriously believe that this awful decision will continue to haunt EBK's presidency until he finally kicks the bums out and picks a more regionally-balanced government that reflects the real Sierra Leone. The cocaine-dabbling and shady-dealing ministers are not helping either. BUT THIS SHOULD NOT BE USED AS AN EXCUSE TO FAN FIRES OF REBELLION AND EXTRACONSTITUTIONALLY TRY TO SUBVERT THE MAN'S GOVERNMENT!
Right now we are fighting (Green says, Red says) over things that can easily be settled over a cold beer by grown-up political leaders. Seeing fat, obese arthritic SLPP leaders with thousands of supporters and opportunistic Raray Boys screaming insults and marching to State House is not a pretty picture. It is not democracy. It is mob rule.
If SLPPers decide that this is the new route to power, then democracy is gonna suffer. Kabba would never have tolerated a mob rush on his office by apoplectic opponents. Koroma will definitely not. Indeed no African leader would. If political debate is gonna become a street circus, it woiuldn't be long before some ignorant soldier begins to have Napoleonic ideas about being addressed as 'Your Excellency'.
Then we will really be in trouble. They will not just ransack SLPP HQ; they will burn down APC, SLPP and PMDC headquarters. Then they will burn down all the press houses just for the heck of it. And they will really have fun with the flame thrower as they direct fire and bullets at our green, red and orange backsides.
Ladies and gentlemen, I am appealing again for a civil politics in our poor country.
Subject: Two warriors fight to the death: the military hyena waits!
From: Uman Lappa
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Date Posted: 08:30:18 08/15/08 ()
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Sorry about the juxtaposition of Name and Subject above.
UL.
Subject: Is the Government Losing Focus and Steam
From: freetownboy
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Date Posted: 07:44:11 08/15/08 ()
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The APC government came to power some 12 months ago amidst high hopes from its supporters and well wishers. However, recent events (cocaine scandal, fights with the opposition SLPP) seem to indicate that they are floundering. Please take part in my informal and non-scientific survey.
Thanks
Subject: SLPP holigans please go and hang please read
From: Haji Med Kay
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Date Posted: 07:29:41 08/15/08 ()
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Attack At State House.....Journalists Mobbed By Police
Posted by on Aug 14, 2008, 18:08
Screaming in loud voice in the early hours of Wednesday Morning 13th August, 2008 calling for help as if the victim is about to depart this planet and was being asked to say his last words, when suddenly the sound of mobile phone was heard. On the other side, was the voice of a male asking to call on the police and inform them that the SLPP office is under siege by a group of unknown individuals allegedly dressed in black suits and were throwing stones at the SLPP Headquarters at Wallace Johnson Street.
For the past days, alleged supporters of the SLPP had been reportedly raining abuses on the newly elected Mayor of Freetown, Mr. Herbert Williams allegedly calling him all sorts of names. Cocaine Mayor, Wachenhut thief and other provocative descr1ptions ascribed to him. This, according to independent sources has been the regular salutation of the alleged SLPP supporters to the Mayor; both morning and evening.
The matter was reported to the Central Police Station according to City Council sources, with no action taken to put a halt to the attackers.
On Tuesday, 12th August 2008 the action of the alleged SLPP supporters intensified when they reportedly blocked Mayor Herbert Williams on his way to the office.
Wednesday Morning 13th August 2008 without any knowledge that supporters loyal to the Mr. Herbert Williams were fully prepared to defend the Mayor if the alleged supporters put up similar actions. As predicted so it happened when the supporters started making provocative comments and raining insults on the Mayor. Loyalists to Mayor Williams retaliated accordingly.
Police, however materialized at the scène, by then, the alleged loyalists to Mayor Williams had already performed their assignment and disappeared. Few people believed to be part of the group were reportedly arrested by the police.
Calling on the SLPP supporters for help over the FM 94.9 radio station, reportedly some of them appeared at the scene in groups. Some of them later moved to the seat of power at State House.
Around the State House vicinity, stones were coming from different angles to the building. Police Officers assigned to State House reportedly used maximum force to disperse the protesters and some SLPP supporters who went allegedly to report the matter to President Koroma.
Journalists who were part of the crowd unfortunately suffered in the hands of the police who were trying to disperse the crowd.
Editayo G. Temple of the For Di People Newspaper, Alima Fofanah of the Exclusive Newspaper, Michael Kargbo of Galaxy Radio at Lungi, Boima J.Boima of the Pool Newspaper all suffered immensely in the hands of the Police.
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Subject: Re: SLPP holigans please go and hang please read
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 14:05:33 08/15/08 ()
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Thanks Haji Med Kay for shedding light into this matter, which has driven those SLPP morons to madness.
Subject: SLPP holigans please go and hang
From: Haji Med Kay
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Date Posted: 07:07:30 08/15/08 ()
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Fellow country men, is it not decent that in a democratic state the party that loses the election stays in opposition peacefully?. Why do you guys have to put up a fight each time state house is occupied by a non south/easterner?. Why cant EBK hand me his position for just six months so that I can deal with you tribal warriors?. In God's time the APC is here to stay. So you can go and hang a million time.
Subject: Re: SLPP holigans please go and hang
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 08:01:11 08/15/08 ()
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How dumb.. You tribalistic fool..
Subject: Diplomacy works: Nigeria cedes Bakassi to Cameroon
From: A Concerned Citizen
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Date Posted: 06:15:59 08/15/08 ()
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Mr President,
Diplomacy, though long and tedious works. As an independent I pray
and hope the same will happen for YENGA.
Sir, in light of recent events you and your party are faced with many
serious challenges which of course in any democratic nation the
dissolution opposing party will use to their advantage. Use this as a
challenge; as the saying goes; "Adversity has the effect of eliciting
talents, which in prosperous circumstances would have lain dormant,"
and see all these problems and challenges as opportunities to elevate
your stewardship. Thank you for bringing back electricity and keeping
the nation clean. Although there is still more to be done, many rational
Sierra Leoneans continue to pray/hope for the betterment of Mama
Salone.
Courtesy of: BBC News on Africa
Nigeria cedes Bakassi to Cameroon:-
Subject: Re: Diplomacy works: Nigeria cedes Bakassi to Cameroon
From: two brains
To: All
Date Posted: 08:24:31 08/15/08 ()
Email Address: twobrains@yahoo.com
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Diplomacy works only when you are dealing with reasonable person and one that is prepared to listen. Yenga has been under Guinean occupation for 8 years. During this period, the Guineans have said they would leave but each time they said that they refused to leave.
Unlike Sierra Leone, Cameron claimed their land through the international court of justice. That was in 2002. So it took Cameron another 6 years even after the court gave the verdict in their favour. We want our land back so that our people can produce rice and crops to feed themselves.
Nigeria had to comply with international law or it will damage its international relations. That is what we need to do, to take the senile Lansana Conte to international court. We should also ask for compensation for the harm his troops are perpetrating on the citizens of Sierra Leone.
Subject: State comedy
From: Comedy
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Date Posted: 05:43:00 08/15/08 ()
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Though the news saddens me, and I am quite embarrassed to be amember of the Ruling Party, but President Office splashing urine and spitting on the opposition Leader's faces, could easily go down in the Guiness book of Records.Just out of interest and in order to ascertain, as to, Who is who, can someone tell me, who issued the directives for this action.
Subject: Re: State comedy
From: Uman Lappa
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Date Posted: 06:21:00 08/15/08 ()
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You need to stop this mischievous propaganda. Remember that there is a difference between a comedian and a clown.
Subject: Re: State comedy
From: Crazy
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Date Posted: 05:58:22 08/15/08 ()
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Even if it was VP, where does the buck stop??
Subject: Re: State comedy
From: BBC News
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Date Posted: 08:11:07 08/15/08 ()
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According to BBC news, Minister IB Kargbo confirmed this incidence, and defended the Government by saying that this incidence did not take place in the office of VP, but within the secured compound of State House.
Subject: Cool down the rhetoric: The Republic is not yet on fire.
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 05:32:21 08/15/08 ()
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I am dismayed by the over-the-top, overblown rhetoric ensuing from forumites. Reading the alarmist fulminations of opposition journalists and supporters, one would think that a civil war is imminent or that a Tutsi-like massacre genocide is going on right now.
Usually sober forumites like Bra Enviable are making ominous noises about civil war and splitting the country.
"All I am saying is that our poor people should be left in peace. We cannot continue to be "peaceful" while they kill our people with the complicity of the state. We must either go our separate ways, or stand up and fight at some point" wrote Bra Enviable.
NO ONE HAS YET BEEN KILLED IN FREETOWN. Is the "OUR PEOPLE" political or tribal? Why are people trying to turn an argument, fueled by rumour and irresponsible journalism, into a constitutional crisis? True, a group of misguided bastards, apparently APC supporters of the mayor of Freetown (He denied it by the way) attacked and ransacked SLPP HQ. Before you can spell Jackie Robinson, SLPP's Unity radio was hyperventillating alarmist pronunciations about an all-out assault by a police/thug combo brigade under the directive of President Koroma. SLPP leaders like JJ Saffa, John Benjamin then rushed to the scene to defend their property, joined by their supporters.
These SLPP leaders then did the RESPONSIBLE thing by demanding a meeting in State House with the president. President Koroma agreed to the meeting. That was also the right thing. It is also a sign of political maturity and class by the political leaders of Sierra Leone to try and sort out such political problems by dialogue and civility.
Now instead of hopping into their cars and driving off to the meeting, the SLPP leaders decided to "walk" to State House at the head of a large group of angry SLPP supporters who were screaming political slogans and invectives against the president and the government. Ladies and gentlemen, I humbly submit to you that this action of Saffa, Benjamin and others is not a walk in the park to a meeting. It is a demonstration, a protest march, if you will, and it is very IRRESPONSIBLE, quickly degenerating into a riot.
We all remember that the last time a protest was led against a political leader- the war criminal Foday Sankoh- he was stripped naked, bundled into a jeep and ended up dying in jail.
IF THE SLPP LEADERSHIP HAD RESPONSIBLY GONE TO STATE HOUSE FOR THEIR MEETING-INSTEAD OF LEADING A DEMONSTRATION AGAINST THE PRESIDENT- AND WAS AMBUSHED, I WOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF CONDEMNING ERNEST BAI KOROMA.
And let's talk about the urine that was allegedly thrown at the SLPP protesters. Was urine really thrown? It seems as if our democracy is now being buffetted by gossip, innuendo and impatient ambitions. We all have to decide the kind of democracy we want to see in Sierra Leone. Intelligent Sierra Leoneans shoild be calling for cooler heads to prevail and an unbiased investigation into the affair instead of calling for rebellion and flooding the boards with sedition.
Subject: Lets wait for APC to kill first before we check their menace
From: Joe
To: All
Date Posted: 09:39:44 08/15/08 ()
Email Address: jm@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 217.194.157.130
Message:
Uman Lappa, I hope you are not suggesting that we wait till its too late tyo stop this unnecessary intimidation of our people.
What do you think these violent gang will get up to in 2012 %.
Violence must not be condoned. Period.
Subject: Re: Lets wait for APC to kill first before we check their menace
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 10:10:09 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123
Message:
I am suggesting no such thing my dear man. I am just stating that the mob action that followed the ransacking of the SLPP HQ could have been avoided by the SLPP leaders simply driving to State House for their meeting with the president. The fact that they chose to lead a protest march at the head of hundreds of unruly and invective-hurling youths was a terrible mistake. What president on earth would entertain such a circus? This SLPP action could have easily degenerated into something quite sinister. SLPP could have condemned the attack on their building in the face-to-face meeting with Ernest and demanded a judicial or parliamentary investigation...and we would have supported them heartily. Nothing damages democracy more than mob rule and the so-called "people's power" street marches. The ruling party AND THE OPPOSITION bith have adult responsibilities in the nurturing of democracy in Salone.
Subject: Re: Lets wait for APC to kill first before we check their menace
From: Adikalie Mountain
To: All
Date Posted: 09:56:08 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
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Just a simple question I would wan to ask. You know these unruly thugs, why were they not causing mayhem during the SLPP led government of Tejan Kabbah?
Subject: Re: Cool down the rhetoric: The Republic is not yet on fire.
From: O'toole
To: All
Date Posted: 08:31:11 08/15/08 ()
Email Address: otoolekargbo@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-65-186-220-54.insight.res.rr.com at 65.186.220.54
Message:
If you don't see it with your eyes, don't invent it with your mouth. Gossip is social sewage.
Subject: Re: Cool down the rhetoric: The Republic is not yet on fire.
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 08:37:23 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Agreed.
Subject: COCORIOKO IS THE PLACE TO BE
From: REFEREE
To: All
Date Posted: 01:16:07 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Posted by Charles F Margai on August 14, 2008 at 16:35:57:
In Reply to: The spate of violence is recurring posted by APC THUGS on August 14, 2008 at 15:40:46:
What kind of leadership is HE Ernest Koroma providing? He is certainly no Barrack Obama, as he seems to be winking to the violent thugs causing the mayhem. When the musicians start singing (and I hear very soon), I think EBK will just have to train more thugs to supress them.
Ihe adage "when the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem beomes a nail" is sooooooo true for the APC:
They crookedly win elections: Violence - attack the opposition HQ in Freetown, office in Bo, and burn electoral materials prematuredly via the unholy Nun
They have problems winning Kenema & Kono District in LG elections: Violence - beat up Kono Chiefs, Electoral Officers and opp supporters
They cant win Rtd Col Marray Conteh's constituency: Violence, burn houses, molest national Heroes
Youths in Tongo voice their disdain for EBK: Violence, burn a few houses, attempt to kill SLPP MP
Men of God pray against vices of some bad politicians: Violence beat up Pastor Conteh in Brookfields
APC uses Salone as Cocaine distribution Center (Port Loko HQ): Violence - attack SLPP HQ again and plan to free Cocaine buddies
What the f&&k are these assholes up to, intimidating peaceful citizens into submission? Son tem dem fell say nar den Papa get get Salone".
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follow up:
Posted by Haji Med Kay on August 15, 2008 at 00:44:26:
You may be right that the APC is using thugs to control the kaindecas,the Barber yallas,the Brima Kargbos, the JJ Bloods, SS Banyas,the Tom nymas,the mada Bios, the brigadier Lansanas,the chief Yinga Normans and the sullay doboh wusuis of our beloved nation. You guys will never accept a government if its not headed by a south/easterner. That is what we decent people call thuggery. There is a provision in the law that allows self defence,but a question for you fools, if the APC is so violent why was it so peaceful in opposition?. What about the violence in Bo and Kenema a few days ago between the two mende parties (the slpp& the pmdc)?. Do you remember the altercation between Charles Margai and Solo B at CKC?, What about the closure of the Kenema Blama road Mosque and dention of its leaders before the 2007 general elections?. Do you remember that both water quay and road transport was dominated by speakers of the mende language before the elections?. The reasons for which the great Sorie Ibrahim Koroma (S.I.Koroma) was hitting you guys hard is because you are a power consus people. We use to say if you go to a mende man,s farm and you want to know whether he is hiding in waiting to katch a thief you just shout myne buwah he will respond aa kenneh bisieh. This time come rain come shine we will not allow you to over throw this government.
Subject: Ebilleh Will Open A New Community Center On 08-23-08-------
From: Alpha Saidu Bangura
To: All
Date Posted: 23:50:40 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: saidubangso@aol.com
Entered From: 68-246-213-62.area3.spcsdns.net at 68.246.213.62
Message:
The Ebilleh Organization will open Its new community center on Sat-08-23-08 at 3307 Hubbard Rd, Hyattsville,MD,at 1pm. An open invitation Is extended to all Sierra Leoneans and well wishers. The center will serve our community as a place where we can teach our kids and people from other countries about our customs and traditions. It will also serve as a meeting point for all Africans.
The celebrations will include the annual thanksgiving and charity of the Ebilleh organization.Keeping in line with the teachings of Islam,every year the organization conducts special prayers for all Sierra Leoneans.
COME ONE-- COME ALL.
Subject: CHARLES MARGAI, WHY NOT ADMIT YOU MADE A MISTAKE BY...
From: Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas
To: All
Date Posted: 21:51:38 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-96-255-102-206.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 96.255.102.206
Message:
Posted by Charles F Margai on August 14, 2008 at 16:35:57:
In Reply to: The spate of violence is recurring posted by APC THUGS on August 14, 2008 at 15:40:46:
What kind of leadership is HE Ernest Koroma providing? He is certainly no Barrack Obama, as he seems to be winking to the violent thugs causing the mayhem. When the musicians start singing (and I hear very soon), I think EBK will just have to train more thugs to supress them.
Ihe adage "when the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem beomes a nail" is sooooooo true for the APC:
They crookedly win elections: Violence - attack the opposition HQ in Freetown, office in Bo, and burn electoral materials prematuredly via the unholy Nun
They have problems winning Kenema & Kono District in LG elections: Violence - beat up Kono Chiefs, Electoral Officers and opp supporters
They cant win Rtd Col Marray Conteh's constituency: Violence, burn houses, molest national Heroes
Youths in Tongo voice their disdain for EBK: Violence, burn a few houses, attempt to kill SLPP MP
Men of God pray against vices of some bad politicians: Violence beat up Pastor Conteh in Brookfields
APC uses Salone as Cocaine distribution Center (Port Loko HQ): Violence - attack SLPP HQ again and plan to free Cocaine buddies
What the f&&k are these assholes up to, intimidating peaceful citizens into submission? Son tem dem fell say nar den Papa get get Salone".
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Charles Margai, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. DID YOU NOT KNOW ALL THESE THINGS BEFORE GOING TO BED WITH THE APC? IF I WERE YOU, I WOULD SHUT-UP!
Subject: Re: CHARLES MARGAI, WHY NOT ADMIT YOU MADE A MISTAKE BY...
From: Michaela Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 09:09:01 08/16/08 ()
Email Address: MickyKay@hayoo.com
Entered From: host86-133-232-75.range86-133.btcentralplus.com at 86.133.232.75
Message:
Did you not know that Charles F Margai Jr is not the real Charles F Margai we know? Do yu reasharch man. If the real Charles F Margai wants to complain, he will find not only this forum but a bigger platform.
Subject: Re: CHARLES MARGAI, WHY NOT ADMIT YOU MADE A MISTAKE BY...
From: Haji Med Kay
To: All
Date Posted: 00:44:26 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: inetgw-65-pri.nhs.uk at 194.176.105.45
Message:
You may be right that the APC is using thugs to control the kaindecas,the Barber yallas,the Brima Kargbos, the JJ Bloods, SS Banyas,the Tom nymas,the mada Bios, the brigadier Lansanas,the chief Yinga Normans and the sullay doboh wusuis of our beloved nation. You guys will never accept a government if its not headed by a south/easterner. That is what we decent people call thuggery. There is a provision in the law that allows self defence,but a question for you fools, if the APC is so violent why was it so peaceful in opposition?. What about the violence in Bo and Kenema a few days ago between the two mende parties (the slpp& the pmdc)?. Do you remember the altercation between Charles Margai and Solo B at CKC?, What about the closure of the Kenema Blama road Mosque and dention of its leaders before the 2007 general elections?. Do you remember that both water quay and road transport was dominated by speakers of the mende language before the elections?. The reasons for which the great Sorie Ibrahim Koroma (S.I.Koroma) was hitting you guys hard is because you are a power consus people. We use to say if you go to a mende man,s farm and you want to know whether he is hiding in waiting to katch a thief you just shout myne buwah he will respond aa kenneh bisieh. This time come rain come shine we will not allow you to over throw this government.
Subject: Re: CHARLES MARGAI, WHY NOT ADMIT YOU MADE A MISTAKE BY...
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 22:42:37 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
"Charles Margai, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. DID YOU NOT KNOW ALL THESE THINGS BEFORE GOING TO BED WITH THE APC? IF I WERE YOU, I WOULD SHUT-UP!"
(Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas)
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Hey Chief:
Did I hear you say Charles Margai will be summoned to appear in your court for complaining out loud?
Subject: A.P.C. Thugs
From: A.B.K.
To: All
Date Posted: 21:45:57 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: sajor2sweet@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-71-59-32-161.hsd1.ga.comcast.net at 71.59.32.161
Message:
What going on in Sierra Leone? Why are the A.P.C. thugs attacking S.L.P.P. radio station in Freetown? Is this what democracy stands for? And for the police to intervene and took side in this is not only a big disgrace bu appaling. A.P.C. Government should refrain themselves from any form of violence against civilians. Why were the S.L.P.P. member of parliament summoned to State House then humiliated at the same time at the hands of the ruling party at the state house? What kind of a government is this? All this will change come 2012, Ernest koroma you should remember that people voted for you in power and should do something to curb this shameful behavior on behalf of your government and party. A.P.C. is a violent party and we will surely eliminated them come election 2012. Shame on the A.P.C. party for such behavior. Throwing of urine on members of the opposition party that were summoned by you? This is a big disgrace.
Subject: Re: A.P.C. Thugs
From: SALIFU PAPAH
To: All
Date Posted: 20:51:44 08/15/08 ()
Email Address: sabbok2003@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 83.229.112.21
Message:
you are Blind fool.
Subject: Re: A.P.C. Thugs
From: zakmal
To: All
Date Posted: 22:31:03 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-178-202-84.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.178.202.84
Message:
ABK I and many forumites share your frustrations with the situation back home. I have always had my suspicions about the so called new APC and my concerns were communicated to some present members of parliament and even a senior minister in the cabinet when they were seeking power. I grew up under the APC and their policies and tactics disguted me to no end and as a result I refuse to participate in party politics in siera leone. These apparachiks are unreformed doctrinaires who only pretend to believe in the rule of law only when they are out of power.Most of the senior party officials are sympathisers of Mao,Lenin,Stalin,Mugabe and Putin.
It is a pity that the President is beholden to these people who it seems have forgotten what caused the conflagration that consumed our land for so many years and so many lives. Why can't they learn that power is temporary? How soon have they forgotten life as aslyum seekers and refugees? Why is thuggery necessary in present day sierra leone? I now wonder whether the musicians who had enjoyed their freedom of expression under the erstwhile government would still have that right cosidering the presence of the so task foce of the APC.Remember borbor belleh etc.
Mr President it's time to rein in these thugs with immediate effect. There is no place for thuggery in our political dispensation. You asked for a mandate from the people and they responded to your call for change but I don't think having goons driving black jeeps with hoods over their heads whilst attacking the opposition is the change they desire.
Your credibility is at stake if this continues and increasingly your supporters are now realizing that the APC party headquarters is calling the shots in your stead.
Subject: Re: A.P.C. Thugs
From: Haji Med Kay
To: All
Date Posted: 01:08:00 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: inetgw-65-pri.nhs.uk at 194.176.105.45
Message:
You are right because, the slpp in return has barbarians like Mada Bio, Tom Nyma, jj blood,ss banya, Brima Kargbo, who only understands the language of the whip. Sorry sir, you do not know exactly what caused the sullay doboh wusuie and the rebel war. I will refer you to Pujehun, Kenema and Kailahun districts for a proper reseach. Again it wasnt you guys that gave EBK the mandate as you all voted for the slpp and the pmdc respectfully. Listen, lets condemn BK for his mistakes and praise him for his achievements if we all have the best interest of our nation at heart.
Subject: Re: A.P.C. Thugs
From: Haji Med Kay
To: All
Date Posted: 01:07:11 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: inetgw-65-pri.nhs.uk at 194.176.105.45
Message:
You are right because, the slpp in return has barbarians like Mada Bio, Tom Nyma, jj blood,ss banya, Brima Kargbo, who only understands the language of the whip. Sorry sir, you do not know exactly what caused the sullay doboh wusuie and the rebel war. I will refer you to Pujehun, Kenema and Kailahun districts for a proper reseach. Again it wasnt you guys that gave EBK the mandate as you all voted for the slpp and the pmdc respectfully. Listen, lets condemn BK for his mistakes and praise him for his achievements if we all have the best interest at heart.
Subject: Re: A.P.C. Thugs
From: Fake Supporters
To: All
Date Posted: 03:25:24 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-129-152-241.range81-129.btcentralplus.com at 81.129.152.241
Message:
I am a staunch supporter of APC.Whatever one may say, but I shall never condone my Government and for that matter President's Office inviting people and splashing bucket full of urine upon them.I wish to make it very clear to all the new comer opportunists that this is not the policy of APC.
Subject: SLPP PLOTTING COUP.
From: TRUE TAlk
To: All
Date Posted: 23:00:12 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-98-235-94-197.hsd1.nj.comcast.net at 98.235.94.197
Message:
• On the 6th January 1999, the rebels took much of Freetown after rumours of an imminent attack were ignored. Caught on the back foot, ECOMOG and the Kamajohs fought hard to recapture the capital. Before the rebels could be forced out of the city, much of it was destroyed. ECOMOG then embarked upon a campaign of brutal reprisals confirming them as participants in the conflict rather than interventionists on behalf of peace.
Subject: CRIME,JUSTICE,SOCIAL ISSUES,THE NEW SUPREME COURT IN THE UK.
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 21:41:10 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-241-236-103.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.241.236.103
Message:
CRIME,
JUSTICE,
RELIGION,
SOCIAL ISSUES,
WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE FUTURE SUPREME COURT OF THE UK AND WALES:
Next year God willing,the UK and Wales will have for the very first time,a Supreme Court in the history of the nation’s jurisprudence.
I hope His Lordship Justice Philips,the current Chief Justice of the UK and Wales will have retired by then for what ever reasons to enable Gordon Brown and Jack Straw to find a suitable jurist for such august position that will be committed to the interpretation and enforcement of the supreme laws of the country which is the constitution..
I say so,because,His Lordship Chief Justice Philips happens to be more of a politician than a Judge whose function is purely limited to the law enforcement and not law making as he and others on the bench are engaged in.
It is never the business of a judge to advocate social issues such as His Lordship’s clarion calls for the “SHARIA LAW” to be used to resolve disputes among muslims no matter how limited in scope and dimension.
“SHARIA LAW”as practiced in Muslim countries such as Iran,Iraq,and Saudi Arabia are very barbaric in nature and they constitute a strategic affront to the decency of humanity because,it takes it away completely.
Without trying to belabor the issue,I think I should turn attention to more mundane issues facing contemporary UK and if not quickly checked and put into proper context and perspective,will constitute the bane that will undo everything original and profound about the British way of life.
The chief function of any courts where ever they may exist is to be able to address infractions of principles equitably,without fear or favour or due regards to foreign tradition and culture.
For example,a competent court should be able to adjudicate a divorce case between a man and his wife and make settlements fairly,and equitably without the wife entertaining any notion that she is irrelevant to the process.
The way I see the courts function in the UK in my considered judgment and candid opinion are very detrimental to the citizenry because there is too much emphasis placed on the rights of the defendants at the expense of the aggrieved parties.Also,there seem to be no restrain on the activities of the judges and their actions which often leave them to freelance in political matters.
It is never the business of the courts to legislate laws.That responsibility remains the province of the elected politicians.
I have spent considerable time reading the politics,history,culture and just about the institutions of the UK.I am very troubled by the fact the judiciary is a loose cannon that fires shots at random without ever mindful of the unintended consequences.
I have read extensive the legal opinions of Lord Woolf,late Lord Denning,and also Lord Philips on social issues and I have the feeling that in most cases,they have veered into areas that should best be left to the politicians in the House of Commons.
There is a doctrine in politics called separation of powers in any representative democracy and the UK being the cradle of such concept,such practice should be part of the power configuration,where political power is exercised bythe members of the House of Commons,why Lord Philips and his colleagues on the bench limit themselves to the interpretation and enforcements of the rule of law.
The visit of the Justice to a Mosque was grotesquely wrong for many reasons such as making it very difficult for agents of law enforcements to carry out their sworn obligations to protect the public from miscreants who will be tempted to violate the civil rights of others all in the name of culture and tradition as the Honourable Chief Justice seemed to have urged.
I think before the commencement of the new Supreme Court next year,Lord Philips should seriously consider retiring so that the Prime Minister and the Lord Chancellor will have some one like Jackie Smith QC,take over as the Lord Chief Justice of the UK and Wales.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Focus On Afria On APC Thuggery
From: APC Thugs
To: All
Date Posted: 21:20:50 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ac202-058.resnet.stonybrook.edu at 130.245.202.58
Message:
Listen to Focus On Africa and here journalists crying in State house that the police are beating and arresting them. Listen to Ade Daramy also condemning the APC and saying that things are getting out of ands in salone. Move the botton totawds the mid of the program.
Subject: Re: Focus On Afria On APC Thuggery
From: APC Thugs
To: All
Date Posted: 21:23:59 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ac202-058.resnet.stonybrook.edu at 130.245.202.58
Message:
Click on Focus on Africa on the right, and listen to the program. Salone comes on at almost(or close) to the midpoint.
Subject: WHAT NOW FOR SIERRA LEONEAN REFUGEES IN GUINEA?
From: Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas
To: All
Date Posted: 20:33:23 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
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Sierra Leonean refugees in Guinea advised on end of their status 30 Jul 2008 15:48:10 GMT
Source: UNHCR
Reuters and al3rtNet are not responsible for the content of this article or for any external internet sites. The views expressed are the author's alone.
CONAKRY, Guinea, July 29 (UNHCR) – Over the past week the UNHCR operation in Guinea embarked on a campaign informing Sierra Leonean refugees on the upcoming cessation of their refugee status and its implications.
The UN refugee agency announced last month that as of the end of the year, Siera Leoneons who fled their country during civil war in the early 1990's will no longer be considered refugees since the root causes of the refugee problem in Sierra Leone no longer exist. The decision was based on fundamental and positive durable changes in Sierra Leone since a peace agreement was declared in January 2002.
During the height of the conflict as many as 2 million of the country's 6 million people were displaced, with some 490,000 fleeing to Liberia and Guinea. Under UNHCR's voluntary repatriation operation from September 2000 to July 2004, more than 179,000 Sierra Leonean refugees returned home and many others returned by their own means.
The information campaigns were organized together with the Guinean central and local authorities and are focused on the former Boreah and Kountaya camps, which host 600 and 366 refugees respectively. The aim is to provide clear and objective information on the implications of the cessation of an individual's refugee status and to enable them to make decisions about their future.
"The decision to end refugee status for Sierra Leoneans was taken in consultation with the international community, the human rights organizations as well as the country of origin," said Dillah Doumaye, UNHCR representative in Guinea. "This decision took in to consideration the efforts by the international community to restore peace and stability – such as the deployment in 1999 UNUMSIL, the Special Court for Sierra Leone and the two successful elections carried out in 2002 and 2007."
Out of some 43,000 refugees from Sierra Leone who continue to live in exile, 6,379 are registered in Guinea.
Return to Sierra Leone will remain an option for refugees after December 31, but UNHCR repatriation assistance will only be available until the end of the year. In addition to a transportation allowance, the returnees will receive a $100 cash grant per head of family and $50 per dependent.
Large-scale organized repatriation for refugee from Sierra Leone ended in July 2004.
Local integration into Guinea is the other option available to Sierra Leonean refugees, and after almost 18 years in displacement many intend to stay in the country.
"We are not happy being in the camp but some of us have tangible reasons for not choosing repatriation. Those include political, cultural and religious reasons" said Fayiah Kailly, the chairman of the refugee committee in Kountaya camp.
After 31 December 2008, Sierra Leoneans who are still in need of international protection will be able to remain in their current host country as refugees while those who do not qualify for asylum after 2008 but do not wish to return home because of family, social or economic links with the host country, will be expected to legalize their stay there.
By Faya Foko Millimouno
in Conakry, Guinea
Subject: What's Going On In Kono, Sam-Sumana?
From: Kono Borbor
To: All
Date Posted: 20:23:07 08/14/08 ()
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“I Gave My Black Jeep To Ramez Hassan”....Kassim Basma Admits
Standard Times
Posted by on Aug 14, 2008, 18:33
Following Standard Times publication of a diamond smuggling activity in Kono some days back by a group of people who went to the township in a strange small aircraft that landed at the Yengema Airfield, Mr. Kasim Basma who was implicated has responded by stating that he only assisted with his black jeep to transport the visitors to pike three mining site.
According to Mr. Basma, he was contacted by Mr. Ramez Hassan to render assistance to a group of people he called his investors. “They hired a plane from the Hasting Airfield that took them to the Yengema Airfield” Mr. Basma said, and added, “Mr Alhassan Coker, former Engineer of the NDMC, now General Manager of the African Diamond Company had already been informed about the visit of Mr. Ramez Hassan’s investors.
Three visitors described as investors went to the scene to take a look at Pike Three of the Kimberlite site when a group of Mines Monitoring Officers saw them and wanted to know their mission to Kono.
After conducting an examination on the site, they returned to the Aircraft and boarded it craft back to the Hastings Airfield. “I only provided vehicle for them to fast-track their mission, but I was not involved in any arrangement” Kassim said.
Based on the report submitted by the Government Mines Monitoring Officers, published in the yesterday’s edition of the Standard Times it is not known how far the Ministry of Mines has gone to investigate the allegation.
Meanwhile, Kasim Basma has confirmed that the vice president, Hon. Sam Sumana is aware of their visit to Kono
Subject: Sierra Leone Open for Business
From: Mohamed Barrie
To: All
Date Posted: 20:18:45 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: ncsneak@aol.com
Entered From: 24-181-27-97.dhcp.smyr.ga.charter.com at 24.181.27.97
Message:
Recently a politician said that Sierra Leone is open for Business.He meant that Tourists and investors are welcome,but the political climate does not support tourism or investment.It is shameful to note what is happening in Sierra Leone.This is exposing us to the rest of World. Probably, Sierra leoneans are lowly intelligent,that is why we are ranked at the bottom of human development index.Tribalism is all that we care about.It is a shame that both educated and uneducated Sierra leoneans are tribalists.I thought we have learnt a lesson from the war but I guess not.During the rebel war, Sierra leoneans were one in Guinea, Gambia and Ghana.We need to get along in Sierra Leone.There is no second chance here.
Subject: Re: Sierra Leone Open for Business
From: M J Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 04:03:33 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-129-152-241.range81-129.btcentralplus.com at 81.129.152.241
Message:
I cannot agree more.Ministers peeing in the aircraft Cabin, and President's office splashing piss on the visitors,top people's involvement in Narcotics & Money laundering, will not amuse the investors.
Subject: APC, WHERE IS MY SHARE OF THIS WEALTH?
From: Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas
To: All
Date Posted: 19:58:32 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
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The Star Of Sierra Leone Diamond
This diamond is the third largest ever found, and weighed almost half a pound in the rough. The rough was eventually cut into seventeen exquisite invididual diamonds, six of which are now set in the Star of Sierra Leone Brooch. So what happened to the other ELEVEN PIECES? Did I hear you say, "teacher, teacher, teacher, teacher, I know. Siaka Stevens took 75% of it, and gave the rest "to gbogbo"?
It is interesting to note that students of FBC protested against the APC because of the way this great wealth was converted into "fambul property".
...Some of those students, Hindolo, Kabs-Kanu, et al. who protested against the crookish APC are now comfortably in bed with the APC...Did I hear someone say, "doc, dis nar dee NEW APC"?
ANY EXPLAINATION OR SUGGESTION?
Subject: Re: APC, WHERE IS MY SHARE OF THIS WEALTH?
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Your share of Diamond and Iron and aluminium and Gold etc is USD 1 million dollar, and your share of National Debit is USD1.25 million dollars.So please send your cheque for USD250,000
Subject: Re: APC, WHERE IS MY SHARE OF THIS WEALTH?
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Curtis nar de word dat O..Send a check of $250000 to the National Revenue Authority. We will bless you for doing your civic duty.
Subject: Re: APC, WHERE IS MY SHARE OF THIS WEALTH?
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Date Posted: 20:13:04 08/14/08 ()
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Sierra Leone Diamonds: How Conflict Diamonds Brought Both Joy And Pain To Africa, by Joy Hill
When the first Sierra Leone diamond was found in 1930, the people of Africa rejoiced. For this impoverish land, the presence of diamonds brings about some promises of prosperity. By the year 1935, significant mining and production of the Sierra Leone diamonds started. Hundreds of Africans and foreigners work in the minds day in and day out to retrieve precious stones from the bowels of the earth. They extracted several pieces of precious stones and one of the most significant find was the Star of Sierra Leone, a beautiful 969-cara diamond which was unearthed in the mines located at the Koidu area. The Star of Sierra Leone is considered as the most famous diamond unearthed from this place.
The mining activities in Sierra Leone peaked in 1960 when the mines produced 2 million carats of diamonds. Up and until now, the mines in Sierra Leone are still producing a large amount of Sierra Leone diamonds. Experts estimated that the Sierra Leone diamonds extracted for the past 60 years already reached the value of over $15 billion. However, the sad truth is that despite the fact that Sierra Leone is very rich in natural resources, its people continue to suffer from extreme poverty. In fact, the presence of diamonds in this area may have even aggravated the situation and brought more hardships to the people. Note that the diamond mines in this part of the world have sparked several armed conflicts that these diamonds are often referred to as conflict diamonds or blood diamonds. The word blood diamond is actually very appropriate because hundreds of people have died in the diamond mines of Sierra Leone either through armed conflict or through some mining accidents.
Violence And Human Security In Sierra Leone
For the last several years, civil war raged all throughout Sierra Leone. Sierra Leone Diamond smugglers and revolutionary groups in the area are often engaged in armed conflict. In most cases, innocent civilians are caught in between the armed clashed resulting to numerous civilian casualties. Corruption in the government is also very common in this part of the world that many people who have lost their confident in the government often join in the armed conflict to manifest their discontent. Indeed, presence of diamonds in Sierra Leone have caused not only joys but also tremendous amount of misery to its people that some of these people have come to think that the Sierra Leone diamonds are cursed.
Subject: Re: APC, WHERE IS MY SHARE OF THIS WEALTH?
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Romanian buys more Sierra Leone Diamonds shares
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A Press Release issued in Bermuda late Wednesday evening states that the Romanian refugee, Mr. Vasile Frank Timis has acquired an extra 500,000 shares of the Sierra Leone Diamond Company Ltd (SLDC). The nature of the transaction was not clearly stated in the Press Release. However, the percentage of issued class acquired by Timis now ensures that Timis controls almost 31% of the company’s shares and is the confirmed Majority shareholder.
Speaking in an exclusive interview with Awareness Times over the telephone from London yesterday, Mr. Martin Dunham, the Chief Financial Officer of SLDC confirmed that Mr. Frank Timis indeed purchased the extra 500,000 shares but that he was not at liberty to explain to Awareness Times newspaper exactly from whom the shares were bought by the Romanian Businessman.
A Romanian refugee, Mr. Timis set up three firms in London: Regal Petroleum, European Goldfields and Sierra Leone Diamond Corporation. However, few weeks ago, Mr. Timis became embattled by shareholders following his admission that Regal Petroleum’s key Greek oil operation may never be commercially viable and serious allegations that Mr. Timis has been named in three separate criminal investigations in Romania. Although Romanian officials and Mr. Timis himself denied the allegations, Timis was then forced to resign from Regal Petroleum although he still retains his position as Chairman and Head of Sierra Leone Diamond Company Limited. SLDC trades on the London Stock Exchange (AIM). Its profile on Yahoo International Financial Pages states that "Sierra Leone Diamond Company (SLDC), formerly Africa Diamond Holdings, just wants to get a hold of the precious gem."
Here in Sierra Leone, SLDC is indeed getting a hold of the precious gems. The company states that its mineral licences cover the entire northern third of the country including the area to the north and east of the known Koidu diamondiferous kimberlite field at Yengema, the newly discovered Kamakwie diamond field in the northwest of the country, the southwestern area of the country adjacent to the coastal plain and the lower half of the Sewa River area. The Company’s 20 mineral licences and one optioned licence covers a total area of 36,364 square kilometres. The licences are prospective for both primary diamond sources, such as kimberlite pipes and dykes, and secondary diamonds in alluvial deposits, swamps and lake sediments. Numerous other commodities including gold, iron ore, rutile, bauxite, and base metals occur within the licence areas.
The Romanian, Vasile Frank Timis is the major controller of all of this wealth.
© Copyright by Awareness Times Newspaper in Freetown, Sierra Leone.
Subject: Please Rev save face condemn the APV violence
From: SLAJ supporter
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Date Posted: 17:54:43 08/14/08 ()
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Show the world that you are a man of God. Please.
Subject: Re: Please Rev save face condemn the APV violence
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NEWS
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Attack At State House.....Journalists Mobbed By Police
Posted by on Aug 14, 2008, 18:08
Screaming in loud voice in the early hours of Wednesday Morning 13th August, 2008 calling for help as if the victim is about to depart this planet and was being asked to say his last words, when suddenly the sound of mobile phone was heard. On the other side, was the voice of a male asking to call on the police and inform them that the SLPP office is under siege by a group of unknown individuals allegedly dressed in black suits and were throwing stones at the SLPP Headquarters at Wallace Johnson Street.
For the past days, alleged supporters of the SLPP had been reportedly raining abuses on the newly elected Mayor of Freetown, Mr. Herbert Williams allegedly calling him all sorts of names. Cocaine Mayor, Wachenhut thief and other provocative descr1ptions ascribed to him. This, according to independent sources has been the regular salutation of the alleged SLPP supporters to the Mayor; both morning and evening.
The matter was reported to the Central Police Station according to City Council sources, with no action taken to put a halt to the attackers.
On Tuesday, 12th August 2008 the action of the alleged SLPP supporters intensified when they reportedly blocked Mayor Herbert Williams on his way to the office.
Wednesday Morning 13th August 2008 without any knowledge that supporters loyal to the Mr. Herbert Williams were fully prepared to defend the Mayor if the alleged supporters put up similar actions. As predicted so it happened when the supporters started making provocative comments and raining insults on the Mayor. Loyalists to Mayor Williams retaliated accordingly.
Police, however materialized at the scène, by then, the alleged loyalists to Mayor Williams had already performed their assignment and disappeared. Few people believed to be part of the group were reportedly arrested by the police.
Calling on the SLPP supporters for help over the FM 94.9 radio station, reportedly some of them appeared at the scene in groups. Some of them later moved to the seat of power at State House.
Around the State House vicinity, stones were coming from different angles to the building. Police Officers assigned to State House reportedly used maximum force to disperse the protesters and some SLPP supporters who went allegedly to report the matter to President Koroma.
Journalists who were part of the crowd unfortunately suffered in the hands of the police who were trying to disperse the crowd.
Editayo G. Temple of the For Di People Newspaper, Alima Fofanah of the Exclusive Newspaper, Michael Kargbo of Galaxy Radio at Lungi, Boima J.Boima of the Pool Newspaper all suffered immensely in the hands of the Police.
Subject: Re: Please Rev save face condemn the APV violence
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"During a telephone interview with the Mayor of Freetown, he denied the allegation made by Shegubehma, saying it “is a blatant lie.” He affirmed that he spoke with Mr Saffa on a cordial note and revealed “I had no altecation with anybody whatsoever.” The deputy secretary general of the SLPP, Alpha Timbo explained, “I was in my house when I heard from the Unity Radio there is an attack on the SLPP office as the deputy secretary general of the party I came to see what the situation was and indeed on my arrival it was crystal clear that an attack took place, the police surrounded the office and senior police officers at the scene confirmed that there was an attack on the office.”“We are saying this is unacceptable and we cannot continue to allow this in a civilized state,” he said".---AWOKO
Subject: APC Releases Woman Caught with €230,000 in Sierra Leone: A m
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APC Releases Woman Caught with €230,000 in Sierra Leone: A mockery of the Anti Money Laundering Act
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The APC regime of President Ernest Bai Koroma has once again shown its scant regard for laid down laws of the land. Intensive investigations conducted by Awareness Times newspaper indicates that a well known Sierra Leonean lady (name withheld) with strong connections to highly placed persons in both the Ernest Bai Koroma regime in Sierra Leone and the Lansana Conte regime in neighbouring Guinea was yesterday August 13th 2008, intercepted with the huge sum of €230,000 (Two Hundred and Thirty Thousand Euros) and a large cache of gold in her possession which she was attempting to smuggle from out of Sierra Leone into Guinea via the Kambia district border.
The Anti Money Laundering Act makes it an offence for such a large amount of money to be taken across the border in the form of undeclared physical cash. €230,000 is approximately one billion leones in cash.
The Sierra Leonean lady, in her mid-thirties, is the niece to another very well known top female associate (name withheld) of this regime and upon being arrested at the Kambia border by a crack team of Customs and Police Officers, she called both her mother and her aunt via her mobile. Awareness Times has learnt that this aunt and the lady’s mother then proceeded to make frantic phone calls to State House and Police Headquarters which calls proved fruitful and resulted in the release of their daughter/niece alongside the intercepted €230,000 and all the seized gold late yesterday evening. The cash and gold have since made it safely into Conakry, Guinea.
Further investigations by Awareness Times indicate that this is not the first time the lady was intercepted by security forces. Sources close to this family inform that she arrived by road into Sierra Leone on 13th July 2008, the same day that the plane full of cocaine landed into Sierra Leone. The entire security forces were on top al3rt on that day and this led to her being intercepted that 13th July 2008 at a checkpoint in Port Loko District in a Jeep. The suspicious security personnel who had not been satisfied with her answers as to her mission in Sierra Leone were however instructed by a certain Assistant Inspector General of Police (name withheld) to immediately release her as she was a guest of top State functionaries of the ruling All People’s Congress (APC).
She was then released and has spent the past few weeks in Sierra Leone but from our understanding, without a very clear mission. It was on her return back to Guinea yesterday that she was intercepted and searched and the search this time resulted in the huge sum of fresh euro bills and gold being retrieved from her Jeep. She had no license to export gold and she could not put up any plausible explanation for the large sum of money in her possession
"The order to release this woman who has clearly broken the anti-money-laundering laws of this country came from above and it makes mockery of the laws of the land," a police officer in Kambia told this medium.
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Subject: Re: APC Releases Woman Caught with €230,000 in Sierra Leone: A m
From: Lawyer
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Date Posted: 04:33:07 08/15/08 ()
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You mean out-of-court Nolle Prosequi?
Subject: Unrest 'appals' S Leone leaders
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Unrest 'appals' S Leone leaders
BBC NEWS
Lansana Fofana
Ernest Bai Koroma was elected in September 2007
Sierra Leone's government is "appalled" by clashes between supporters of the ruling and opposition parties in the capital, a minister has told the BBC.
Minister of Information Ibrahim Ben Kargbo promised that the incidents would be investigated.
Clashes on Wednesday included an attack on offices and a radio station belonging to the opposition.
Sierra Leone has been trying to rebuild itself after a decade-long brutal civil war that ended in 2002.
'Model of democracy'
At a meeting called by President Ernest Bai Koroma, who won elections last year, both parties agreed to call on their supporters to show restraint.
But after the end of the emergency meeting ruling party supporters apparently threw water on opposition representatives and several journalists were beaten up, the BBC's Umaru Fofana reports from the capital, Freetown.
Mr Kargbo said the meeting had been held in good faith.
"What happened at the gate was a matter that we have to investigate," he told the BBC's Focus on Africa programme.
"We have allowed the media in this country to practise freely, and therefore we should also be able to protect members of the media," he added.
The ruling All People's Congress (APC) party had no reason to attack the opposition Sierra Leone People's Party (SLPP), he said.
"We are appalled because this is a government that is working towards reconciliation - that is working towards bring back happiness to the people of this country," said Mr Kargbo.
"We also want to see ourselves as a model of democracy in Africa," he said.
Mr Kargbo suggested President Koroma might take measures to boost the country's police force following the unrest.
"I would not be surprised if the president takes the decision one of these days to restructure the police force," he said.
Subject: Re: Unrest 'appals' S Leone leaders
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Is this not a strategy, so we can forget about the cocaine saga?
Subject: APC nar viloent Party bo - lets cal a sapde a spade
From: Salone CIA
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Date Posted: 16:58:30 08/14/08 ()
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Whats all this for. Just to set the stage for jail break for cocaine suspects?
APC nar alaki party ffor true.
Subject: Re: APC nar viloent Party bo - lets cal a sapde a spade
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Date Posted: 05:44:41 08/15/08 ()
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Violence and jail breaking has been done in the past, but throwing piss and shit on the Ex Ministers of SLPP beats all of it.
Subject: Re: APC nar viloent Party bo - lets cal a sapde a spade
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 17:56:03 08/14/08 ()
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Who do you blame for the present climate?
Subject: Re: Unrest 'appals' S Leone leaders
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 16:30:11 08/14/08 ()
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Ah ah....
"""Mr Kargbo suggested President Koroma might take measures to boost the country's police force following the unrest
"I would not be surprised if the president takes the decision one of these days to restructure the police force," he said.""""
Well Acha... you better be packing your bundle..
You outlived your usefullness...
Those with ears should hear and eyes should see..
IB Kargbo says (and his job is speaking for obai..) that the Obai is considering getting rid of that good for force...(ooopppss Its the other way around) Police Boss..
Subject: Re: Unrest 'appals' S Leone leaders
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The IB Kargbo himself is a useless man. He too should be fired. Just travelling around the globe.
Subject: Re: Unrest 'appals' S Leone leaders
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Date Posted: 17:18:51 08/14/08 ()
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EBK mentor is JAMMEH anything we see is not surprising.
Subject: Re: Unrest 'appals' S Leone leaders
From: zakmal
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Date Posted: 18:10:23 08/14/08 ()
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In any civilized democracy the rights of the opposition is always respected.This is a right that has to be protected at all cost unless this government is determined to transform itself into a dictatorship.The previous government regardless of all its shortcomings tried very hard to respect the rights of the then opposition APC.That's partly why we now have a new government. Why is it now so difficult for the APC to reciprocate?
Is it ok to allow thugs to create mayhem at will? If this total disregard for law and order and disrespect for democratic principles is not checked promptly there is a chance that we may be heading for anarchy.There is someone in the ruling party headquarters overseeing these acts of thuggery and outright intimidation.
The name used for this outfit is task force. Why don't we have a task force to draw up a plan to overhaul our economy that would bring it back to reality( per capita to cost of living). Why can't we have a task force to encourage foreign businesses to sierra leone? Why can't we have a task force to overhaul the land tenure laws of sierra leone? Why can't we have a task force to recommend ways to privatize all these unprofitable government parastatals? The president just wasted his valuable time the other day lecturing newly appointed chairmen,directors on corporate governance. These appointments are nothing but dumping ground for political rejects who would spend their tenure enriching themselves and others with impunity.
Subject: Sierra Leone / IFJ Calls on Sierra Leonean Government to Inv
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Sierra Leone / IFJ Calls on Sierra Leonean Government to Investigate Police Assault on Reporters
FREETOWN, Sierra Leone, August 14, 2008/African Press Organization (APO)/ — The International Federation of Journalists (IFJ) today called on the Sierra Leonean government to conduct an investigation into the assault by police on reporters by security personnel attached to the State House.
“This is unacceptable police behavior that cannot be ignored,” said Gabriel Baglo, the Director of the IFJ Africa office. “We condemn this brutal and deliberate assault and call on the government to conduct an investigation to bring those responsible to justice and to make sure such an incident does not happen again.”
According to the Sierra Leone Association of Journalists (SLAJ), on Wednesday, reporters covering a meeting between President Ernest Bai Koroma and members of the opposition Sierra Leone Peoples Party (SLPP) were assaulted by “overzealous security men.”
Seven journalists were injured and others had their equipments destroyed.
After undergoing medical treatment in hospital, the injured reporters, Edie Tayo G. Temple of For Di People newspaper, Alimah Fofana The Exclusive newspaper, Michael Kargbo of Galaxy Radio, Umaru Sitta Turay of Awareness Times newspaper, Boima J. Boima of The Pool newspaper, Ola Tungie Yaskey of SKYY Radio and Sheikh Bawoh of New Vision newspaper, were all released the same day.
In a statement, SLAJ made it “categorically clear that if this trend continues without any remedial measures, the association will have no alternative but to declare a news blackout on all police activities in the country.”
SOURCE : International Federation of Journalists (IFJ)
Subject: The Cocaine Government don begin show den true colours
From: Abused Journalist
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Date Posted: 17:09:00 08/14/08 ()
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Ernest Koroma is truely a useless President, surround by lot os mafians.
Subject: Photos of the attack.
From: Real Journalists
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Date Posted: 15:58:46 08/14/08 ()
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Great work. Real Journalism.
Subject: Re: Photos of the attack.
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Please watch these photos quick, before they get deleted.
Subject: Re: Photos of the attack.
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wow
Subject: As I said it
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AWOKO NEWS
As I said it
Kelvin Lewis
My article yesterday was about the ongoing political violence across the country and hardly was my piece read yesterday morning that another political violence this time right in Freetown occurred between the usual SLPP and APC at the SLPP head office.
This is not the first and it is definitely not going to be the last as long as political intolerance continues to persist. And it is not going to be the last also as long as political party supporters are being used against each other for nothing.
Earlier in the week it was in Bo and Tongo, and yesterday right in Freetown. I do not think there is any political party office that has come under persistent attacks or where fighting have taken place like the SLPP office. Their office is situated at a volatile locat1on though closer to the police headquarters and the central police. Supporters will always assemble outside the SLPP office and apart from the attacks on their office, there have been personal or group confrontation between the two opposing supporters on frequent occasions.
Some two weeks ago, some SLPP supporters alleged that one of the city council metropolitan police destroyed their pump and removed the thatch that was placed in between the walls of the party office. But the head of the metro police said when he enquired what was problem, he was told the SLPP supporters alleged that one of the officers destroyed their pump and when they saw the alleged officer, he was accused of doing the act.
That incidence almost flared out of proportion. Petty things that most times drive some of these fanatic supporters hay wire forgetting the consequence.
The ‘couped’ former Mayor Winstansley Bankole Johnson faced some problems on his way in and out when passing by the SLPP office. But why is it that the APC office has not been facing similar problems as the SLPP office and why for God sake that some people will always direct their route where the other political party is, why?
Have we not grown yet or is it just a bluff that we are democratic when infact we cannot abide by the simplest principles of political tolerance. Who are we to blame, I always point my ten fingers at the politicians- the rogue ones in particular. They( politicians) always, because of the circumstances of the youths- illiteracy, unemployment, homelessness and if to say bleak future, have their easy prey on them whilst the children of the politicians are never seen in the streets rioting or even rallying for their parents. But the youths continue to be misplaced and their children continue gaining fortunes abroad and good education. If the literate continues to misguide the illiterates, what you expect, is chaos all the time.
It is a fact that when the SLPP was in power, the opposition was not attacked as it seems to appear now but why should they in turn not accept one another and keep the peace.
I will definitely argue that it is not enough justification for anybody to say that the SLPP started the provocation by calling names of their leaders that led to the conflict. Was there not enough justification for the SLPP to have replied same when their leaders were subjected to all forms of molestation? Yes, political provocation leads to something else and it is that something that is presently driving the wave of conflicts around the country for which the politicians should stand against.
How could one fathom that any time the SLPP head office was attacked, the police will always turn against them whenever they go to the scene? There were evidences yesterday of the police firing not against the attackers but in the building of the SLPP, why?
Can one also mention the amount of provocation some SLPP executives, John Benjamin, J.J Saffa, Alpha Timbo, Hon Dr Brima Kamanda, Mrs Tejan Kabbah, Hon Dr Bernadette Lahai, and Manso Dumbuya faced when they were first denied access to state House to meet with the President?
And when finally the meeting was allowed, only few of them were allowed in J.J not allowed. But when the meeting ended and the SLPP delegates were returning, it was alleged water was poured on them right at state House, under the nose of the President. If such could happen at State House are there not the possibilities of it happening elsewhere?
Let’s imagine the consequence if the SLPP says they are determined and ready to retaliate if molested or attacked, remember there are no dominant political groups in the country and if things are seen to be moving distinctly on party/regional/tribal lines without stringent actions taken, then I am afraid for Sierra Leone and for the misguided youths I pity them and awaits their ‘bra u borbor dae’.
Subject: Re: As I said it
From: 666
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Date Posted: 16:55:20 08/14/08 ()
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"Let’s imagine the consequence if the SLPP says they are determined and ready to retaliate if molested or attacked, remember there are no dominant political groups in the country and if things are seen to be moving distinctly on party/regional/tribal lines without stringent actions taken, then I am afraid for Sierra Leone"
RED al3rt!!!!
the question now is no longer if but when.
the threshold has already been crossed.
there is no turning back now.
the powers that be have succeeded in navigating the path to death and destuction.
they wish to rub thier palms with glee whenever mortals are viciously slain because this brings out flowing thier party colours.
so red will be what we see from now on.
dont be afraid my brother.just brace yourself for the worst case scenario.such is life.
BATLLE STATIONS!!!!!!!
Subject: Re: As I said it
From: jame mohai
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Date Posted: 17:00:23 08/14/08 ()
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"I have been traumatized; I can not believe this happens right inside the State House premises; Urine is poured upon decent people right inside State House? Just listen to the abusive language; I have learnt new vile and foul vocabulary today," Mrs. Isata ‘IJ’ Kabbah, the wife of the former President Tejan Kabbah, told Awareness Times with tears in her eyes.
We do not wnat any crocodile tears from IJ, your husband kabba sold us to the APC. Why is he not there himself to sypathise with the party. He is a damn hyprocrite
Subject: I guess attacking opposition HQ doesn't make the news
From: Town Crier
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Date Posted: 15:42:30 08/14/08 ()
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I guess atacking the opposition headdquarters, alleged piss throwing, and reported police brutality against civilians doesn't make the front page of Cocorioko.
http://news.sl/drwebsite/publish/index.shtml
Subject: Re: I guess attacking opposition HQ doesn't make the news
From: COCORIOKO FANATIC
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Date Posted: 00:06:50 08/15/08 ()
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You motherfuckers are very dumb. Didn't you read that Rev. Kabs Kanu is not presently available and is indisposed ?
Subject: Re: I guess attacking opposition HQ doesn't make the news
From: Money Launderer
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Date Posted: 00:18:38 08/15/08 ()
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Yeah, right!!!! How very convenient for him to be "indisposed" at this crucial time in the return to violence in our polity by his buddies in the apc. Or he may be just laundering those cocaine dollars in collusion with his "mortgage banker" sponsor.
Bloody hypocrites!! All of his ilk in NJ.
Subject: Re: I guess attacking opposition HQ doesn't make the news
From: CocaineRioko
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Date Posted: 17:59:23 08/14/08 ()
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Do you expect COCAINRIOKO to report anything?
Subject: Re: I guess attacking opposition HQ doesn't make the news
From: Neutralist
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Date Posted: 17:12:12 08/14/08 ()
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No! It doesn't make the front page of Cocorioko. Got a problem? Read Pro SLPP Newspapers or write your own. You can't dictate to the Editor-In-Chief and CEO what to report or cover. Besides, SLPP needs to stop creating these urgly situations then cry foul. Sometimes, silence speaks volume.
Who are they SLPP fooling? SLPP North America elected their officials, the next thing you know the leadership in SL is instigating unrest in the nation.
Get real Town Crier and cry to the party's leadership to stop provoking the ruling party either overtly or covertly.
Subject: Reverend vs Propagandist
From: Holy Man
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Date Posted: 17:31:21 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: holyman@yahoo.co.uk
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Is he he holy or is he a Jaylibah?
Subject: The spate of violence is recurring
From: APC THUGS
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Date Posted: 15:40:46 08/14/08 ()
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AWOKO NEWS
The spate of violence is recurring
by Ophaniel Gooding
Six years after eleven years of madness it seemed as if nothing is being learnt, as the spate of violence nowadays is recurring.
What border me most is the fact that people are anticipating more violence if the present socio-political trend continues.
What is actually happening? Are we short-sighted or what? Or are we forgetting that the survivals of the madness might be the victims of the next.
Recently an okada driver was brutally slaying along the Bo Kenema high-way and on Monday a driver of a fish truck who was plying the same route during ungodly hours in the morning reported that he came across a wooden barricade erected by armed robbers.
In diamondiferous Tongo field All Peoples Congress' (APC) supporters went berserk and vowed to kill some youth which they alleged were uttering words against the APC and it supporters.
In Kenema Resident Minister East disclosed to journalists that there are series of security threats in the region. In fact he highlighted that a man tried to sneak with a catapult and a sling to the inauguration of councilors in the region by the President.
Yesterday Sierra Leone People's Party head-office was attacked by alleged APC thugs. What is happening? Can't we give peace a chance!
You don't have to be a NaCSA scientist to know that peace is the basic prerequisite for development. Let's reminisce for a moment- what accolades did the war brings- nothing but brutal images of limbs and a brutish and barbaric nation that manages to find its way to the twenty-first century.
Are we not yet tired to be ranked the least in the human development index? I think it time we start to map the way forward, and try to find ways that will elevate us from the decadence of backwardness and stop this kind of bestial act some called politicking.
I was listening to international news the other day when Barrack Obama condemned American hip-hop rapper Ludacris for using unpleasant words against his political opponents Hilary Clinton and John McCain. Obama's action is a clear demonstration of civilized politics and politicking.
I can bet whatever that if it were a politician in Sierra Leone they would have glorified that song and used it as a tool to intimidate their opponent.
For God sake this is democracy and not totalitarianism let's tried to be tolerant as best as possible.
Let's apply the golden principle: “do unto others as you want them to do unto you” and live as peacefully citizens to develop Sierra Leone.
Remember: we are the last ones left and want ever we do it's going to be reflective on us or our children. Lonta!
by Ophaniel Gooding
Subject: The spate of violence is recurring: Is our President Useless
From: Charles F Margai
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Date Posted: 16:35:57 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: charles.margai@yahoo.com
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What kind of leadership is HE Ernest Koroma providing? He is certainly no Barrack Obama, as he seems to be winking to the violent thugs causing the mayhem. When the musicians start singing (and I hear very soon), I think EBK will just have to train more thugs to supress them.
Ihe adage "when the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem beomes a nail" is sooooooo true for the APC:
They crookedly win elections: Violence - attack the opposition HQ in Freetown, office in Bo, and burn electoral materials prematuredly via the unholy Nun
They have problems winning Kenema & Kono District in LG elections: Violence - beat up Kono Chiefs, Electoral Officers and opp supporters
They cant win Rtd Col Marray Conteh's constituency: Violence, burn houses, molest national Heroes
Youths in Tongo voice their disdain for EBK: Violence, burn a few houses, attempt to kill SLPP MP
Men of God pray against vices of some bad politicians: Violence beat up Pastor Conteh in Brookfields
APC uses Salone as Cocaine distribution Center (Port Loko HQ): Violence - attack SLPP HQ again and plan to free Cocaine buddies
What the f&&k are these assholes up to, intimidating peaceful citizens into submission? Son tem dem fell say nar den Papa get get Salone
Subject: How to be regarded Patriotic by the SLPPers
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 13:31:16 08/14/08 ()
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To be seen as being patriotic by the SLPPers in this forum, you only need to write a few good things about their party even if they're not true as long as it doesn't expose their 11 year 'Ranka' the next thing you will be lauded as the most patriotic of all.
But you got to becareful as these guys are so good at showering you with praises that you can easily get drawn in their vacious tribalistic cycle.
I've never really able to understand why these guys behave this way. But my next trip in October to Freetown will provide the answer.
Subject: Re: How to be regarded Patriotic by the SLPPers
From: Tolongbo
To: All
Date Posted: 20:24:49 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: EddieGrant@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 96.248.92.101
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I have been following your writing on this forum for a long time and it seems as if you are the worst of the ignoramuses that ply their abysmal ignorances on this forum. what kind of salone do you envision? If you think Salone is only what is northern, then you must be dreaming in never, never land. What ever shortcomings the SLPP may have had, your actions as APC Cocaine government and gbongbosoro makes them saints even in the eyes of the likes of prostitute cum nun(husband snatcher)-Chistina Topup.The eyes of the people have finally opened and hope they will not continue to sit by and allow your set of hoodlums to continue to violate their human rights.No body has a monopoly over violence-ask the apartheid apologists in south Africa and the Sobels in Salone.
Subject: Re: How to be regarded Patriotic by the SLPPers
From: How concern
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Date Posted: 21:52:56 08/14/08 ()
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Eddie, I warned you earlier on only for you to show your ... I am too polished to go further. With all due respect Tolongbo can not say it any better.
Tolongbo orh war dee sortis-khor.
Subject: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: Bra Enviable
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Date Posted: 12:43:03 08/14/08 ()
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Am I the only one wriggling in this irony? The more APC supporters predict an SLPP-led war in Sierra Leone, the more primitive violence is wreaked on the opposition by the ruling APC. As if the attacks on SLPP supporters in Kono district did not amount to a cowardly breach of the peace, the APC has upped its rawness by attacking the SLPP in Freetown. Who is preparing for war in this case--is it the attacker or the hapless victim who absorbs APC-inflicted pains at every turn? Is the SLPP supposed to perpetually turn the other cheek while the other side revels in unprovoked lunacy?
Where are those who have always alleged that the SLPP is a battle-poised cell pretending to be a political party? Why is Ernest Koroma and his Attorney-General not upholding the supremacy of the law by letting the judicial system punish those guilty of violence? What is the APC's perception of democracy? Democracy without the opposition's right to live in peace? Where is Cocorioko, the news organ that sends felicitations to Ernest Koroma each time the clock ticks? Where is the APC's sense of decency? Mark my words: Once these attacks become too numerous to be counted, we will defend ourselves, and indeed our homeland, in ways designed to administer an unforgettable lesson. I am sick of this God-damned country inhabited by subhumans with more brute force than brains!!
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: Settler
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Date Posted: 08:51:56 08/15/08 ()
Email Address: settler @yahoo.com
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Father I pray that these kontri people will fight and kill each other, till none of them are left on the face of this earth. Let all of them dwell in hell where they belong, so they can unite with their ancestors (Bai Bureh, Foday Sankoh etc)and shut tight the gates of hell, so that they forever perish in their ignorance and idiocy.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: General Konouwah
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Date Posted: 16:54:08 08/14/08 ()
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Bra E, you should know the modus operandi of the Akatas by now.
They practice deceptive politricks all the time. They "yell and scream" for "help" when they are the ones violently attacking others. These violent mongrels (their thug force) are fed with COCAINE and HEROIN, not to talk about the jamba, to behave like violent ZOMBIES for their masters in destabilizing the country - and they are in power - yet they blame their initiated actions on others. They have ALWAYS behaved this way knowing fully well the gullibility of their illiterate supporters.
All one has to do to entice the violence innate in them is to give them a few leones, some omolay, cocaine, heroin, and jamba and they would become violent puppets on strings for their shameless and hopeless leaders. This has always been the strategic approach the akatas have taken to intimidate S/Leoneans into submission, and they'd continue to do so until they are stopped. The war did not stop that MO, and nothing will, until the "an-eye-for-an-eye-and-beyond" attitude is engendered in them by the victims of their "state" crimes against our people.
Is it any wonder that Mugabe of Zim called our president and his caboodle drug barons? ERNEST IS NOT IN CHARGE of that country. He is only the nominal head, as prezo. It seems as if the old APC is still in charge of them akatas.
If these maggots think that they will succeed in using intimidatory tactics against our folks with impunity they'd have something else coming to them in the very near future.
And they LIE so incessantly about everything they are capable and incapable of doing.
Let them be warned though that the fire next time will be hotter than the previous one they created, that lasted for eleven bloody years if they don't come to their bloody senses ASAP.
What is the point in destabilizing a nation (by apc thugs) that is governed by your very own apc, if the primary intent and purpose is NOT to lead our nation into an APC-led DICTATORSHIP through THUGGERY, VIOLENCE, INTIMIDATION, and other undemocratic practices.
Does it now make sense to you when some of these mongrels speak about SLPP never regaining power in SL no matter what?
Does it now make sense to you why some of their leaders are alleged to be serious drug traffickers? and that plane-loads of cocaine, and perhaps other hard drugs, have been consigned to the Port Loko axis through the Sesays, and GK - the Port Loko Mafia?
I do not wish any ill on my motherland, but if these violent acts against innocent folks in the opposition are not curtailed, and eliminated very soon by this APC-led GoSL, the WATER we were serving our folks in peaceful times, in SL, will turn to FIRE, which might be the best way to extinguish their arsonist tendencies.
And if they ask that SOB in Burkina to come to their aid, like Foday Laimpay did, we will assure them that Bra Robert and Bra Lansana, are on the side of the people we want to protect.
They are nothing but EMPTY BULLIES wanting a war against our peoples in order to have everlasting dominance in governance/power. But the people always win such wars.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: Bra Enviable
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Date Posted: 17:03:14 08/14/08 ()
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Kaamor Konouwah, ow dee bodi? I share your sentiments.
Koroma has failed his party, the nation, and himself.
All I am saying is that our poor people should be left in peace. We cannot continue to be "peaceful" while they kill our people with the complicity of the state. We must either go our separate ways, or stand up and fight at some point.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: Tolongbo
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Date Posted: 22:06:26 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: Bacchusmoi@yahoo.com
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B.E, i agree with you 100%.Going our separate ways is something i have thought of for long time. Afterwards, it makes no sense to continue associating with people who think you are either inferior and they are superior,or you are as insensitive and oblivious to the numerous misconceptions they hold about your humanity(O meni en rata). May be its about time we start considering to go our separate ways or better still, we stop restraining our people from fighting back. Knowing these guys from School days, they only 'opincul' but they can't stand the heat of violence. God bless.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 10:29:19 08/15/08 ()
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Are you guys advocating seperation from mainland Sierra Leone? or what do you mean going our separate ways?
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: General Konouwah
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Date Posted: 17:32:46 08/14/08 ()
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It will be sooner than later, Bra E: Fighting fire with more rapid fire.
These maggots cannot be relied upon to lead that country into a modern state. Avarice is their number one priority, and they are open to all forms of sourcing it: DRUGS/NARCOTICS peddling; through force of arms (intimidation, thuggery, excessive violence); excessive corruption; lies, and other deceptive practices.
I have always known that the AKATAS in power will lead to what we are witnessing now in that country, and I am very sorry to state that the worst is yet to come.
Our poor peoples!! Only the strong will survive. And they are survivors alright. Let the akatas continue their madness, our readiness - soon- will lead to nastiness.
I hate to state this, but a regional war is brewing in that country through the political folly of them akatas. I pray to be wrong on this.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 10:42:31 08/15/08 ()
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Thats what people like you have being promoting. Its now no suprise if that comes to fruition.
Why there was no thuggery from the APC during the 11 years of ranka SLPP? the answer is simple, since SLPP was in power there is no need to provoke their opponents so there was no violence because they stand to loose a lot. But ever since SLPP lost power violence is never unending as they have nothing to loose, these people will do everything to distabilize Sierra Leone so that the current government will fail.
If all what the APC stand for is violence, we would have seen this during the miserable SLPP era. But they managed to keep their cool its only now that we're seeing endless clashes between these power hungry, and bloob thirsty grubs.
As long as people like you and the pathetic Bra Enviable (should be man enough to use his real name) continue to advocate regional unrest, you'll continue to fail in all life ventures.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: Gen. Konouwah
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Date Posted: 15:56:50 08/15/08 ()
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Mister, your 'logic' is very illogical.
No one is advocating for regional unrest. We are just sick and tired of reading about the the violent confrontations against our people in F/Town, and in the South and East. You may think that the North of the country is immuned from these confrontations, as was imagined during the war years, but are the cocaine barons going to allow this relative calm over the North at the present time to continue? We shall see.
I do not know how old you are, but from a historical perspective you should understand that the whole nation, especially the SouthEast, has suffered immensely under the reign of APC governments for 24-years of gross misrule, from 1968 - 1992. Once bitten, twice shy, they say.
How long must our folks continue to suffer under the APC without our condemnation in frustration?
You claim, and I quote:
"...Why there was no thuggery from the APC during the 11 years of ranka SLPP?..."
Because that aspect would not have been tolerated under SLPP rule by the government, and the masses, considering the fact that our nation had just emerged from an eleven-year old brutal war, initiated through the ineptitude of your apc. The rule of law was strictly adhered to as opposed to what is happening presently. You can twist these facts any way you'd like, but facts are facts, you cannot change them. Furthermore, the APC was in disarray, and financially broke until the cocaine barons started buying their way into the party as the kingmakers.
If you truly understood our postings you would have discerned the implication that this 'new' APC government, through public deception, is the driving force behind the thuggery, and violence we are decrying based on the factual evidences provided by the press, and experiences through (old)apc history. Furthermore, since the apc is prone to use these tactics, you should understand when we quote oldman Yogi Berra: "here we go,it is deja vu all over again". Since you may be too young to have lived under what most folks experienced during those times, we surely understand your naivete in this matter.
"...As long as people like you and the pathetic Bra Enviable (should be man enough to use his real name) continue to advocate regional unrest, you'll continue to fail in all life ventures..."
Borbor, u norto God. U na APC man, so you sweh nor go kaiytche we. Na unu the halaki go fordom pan. Continue to support your cocaine barons, and see where that leads you.
And they claim their love for S/Leone, yet they back the goons that poison the minds of our youth.
On the contrary, our love for our motherland is the very reason we sound the alarm bells in order to preclude the awful and ghastly events that have occurred in our recent past history, as a consequence of apc ineptitude.
We want peace, love, and harmony amongst our peoples, and it is the responsibility of the government of the day to ensure these aspects in governance. Presently, this is not the case at all, as we were hoping that the "new" APC would not fall for the "old APC" tactics. In eleven months of "new" APC rule nothing seems to have changed, again, based on the evidence.
We want our nation to develop into a modern state. Will the APC lead our nation into development? The jury is still out on this issue, but based on what we read and have experienced in the past, it does not seem so.
We are simply reacting to what is been thrown at our peoples. We do not mince words when it comes to that.
Do you really love the nation called S/Leone?
We do.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: two brains
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Date Posted: 17:16:42 08/14/08 ()
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Mr Enviable, may be you can help me understand this police comlicity. When the SLPP was in power, the law enforcement body were not with us, in fact they danced on the street of freetown when the SLPP lost the election. The APC is now in power and despite the high food prices, thuggery and the national scandal of cocain trafficking involving the APC operatives, the law enforcement body is still against the SLPP even when they are the victims. What is going on? Someone must be conspiring against the SLPP.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: Cocaine Money
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Date Posted: 20:51:49 08/14/08 ()
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Bra, cocaine money is a very powerful incentive for the SLP. They have been thoroughly corrupted by the drug barons in the APC, and in S.L., it seems that whomsoever pays/bribes the Police, plays the tune. And you know quite well that the SLPP is not about to bribe a public service outfit like the SLP, hence their support for the apc.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: DeLaw
To: All
Date Posted: 16:21:30 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: contehlawrence @yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-66-61-130-113.insight.res.rr.com at 66.61.130.113
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The current regime is sacrificing transparency in dealing with political violence on the opposition at the expense of national unity.If the accusations are false,the APC should answer to the Sierra Leonean people and all freedom loving citizens should roundly condemn the perpetrators and bring them to justice.We cannot afford to be led to the path of mutual destruction the politicians are paving during our post-war period.This should be a period of renewal,politically as well as socially.
It is clear that there are some among us who have no vision of a democratic society being developed in our nation.They would go at length to exhibit their lack of decency when it comes to dealing with those who oppose their ideas.These people should not be allowed to continue to turn our political differences to political hatred.
In my opinion,every peace-loving Sierra Leonean should stand up staunchly to stop the madness.Enough is enough.What these people are doing is not good for this nation.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: lorenzo
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Date Posted: 13:49:04 08/14/08 ()
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sierra leone once again is moving towards the brink of war with the help of the APC GOVERNMENT.Time and again, we have seen the APC supporters with the help of their leadership perpetrate violence against opposition supporters in the country. The government of EBK have not arrested a single individual neither quell the violence against opposition supporters. This led me to believe that the government is directing this plan. let it be known that our country does not belong to a single individual neither a group.The lessons of the rebel WAR are still fresh in our minds to learn from. APC, dont start another war by your actions. LONTA
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: borbor
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Date Posted: 14:07:26 08/14/08 ()
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Sir, are you talking about the violence your party created, just to score political point? we know what the SLPP is capable of doing, that is why this party will not win another election in that country.
People are tired of the SLPP's baseless innuendos, you need to grow up, and give us a formidable opposition, we are dying for one.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: Jacob Kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 14:26:33 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: jacob.kanu@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
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Mr borbor, were you the one locked up in Salone for vandalism, a while ago? If yes, we know where you are coming from. You should be ashamed of your dishonesty. Like your drug traficking and violence-sponsoring masters, keep you dull brain in denial.
Everyone knows EBK is planning a jail break for his beloved drug sponsors. He genuinely believes by allowing chaos to prevail he can avoid this embarassment that is getting closer and closer to him by the mnute. Power has a funny way of blinding mediocres, and his sorry self erroneously now believes he can get away with anything. Thats the same way Momoh felt, and look how he ended.
Agnes dumbo we are watching you, very very closely!
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: borbor
To: All
Date Posted: 17:16:01 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
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Sir, i have never been arrested for any reason. The techniques you are using to pass out maliscious innuendos were long ago discredited. It is not new to Sierra Leoneans that once the SLPP is not in office, there will be no peace, they are notorious in taking things out of context, and can go to the extent of ochestrating attacks and blame their opponents for it. Why is it that during the wasteful eleven years of the SLPP, there was no civil disturbance in the west and north? you guys are really vindicating you critics that your party is full of power mongers.
Jacob Kanu or whatever you call yourself, am not going to waste my time on you, i'll let you preach to your quire. LONTA.
Subject: Bobor nar borbor
From: Jacob Kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 17:50:10 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: jacob.kanu@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
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"Why is it that during the wasteful eleven years of the SLPP, there was no civil disturbance in the west and north? you guys are really vindicating you critics that your party is full of power mongers" borbor
You have shown how puerile you realy are. No wonder you call youself bobor.
Responsible governments the wotld over protect their citizens. Let me get down to you level. A government should prevent chaos, not cause it. As Kevin Lewis, a very respected neutral journalist put it - "to be fair to the SLPP, this never happend to the APC in opposition" APC is sending thugs out like yourself enmass to subdue peaceful citizens. I forcast your masters being chaserd out like rats if thwey continue with this lowlife violent behaviour. YOU JUST CANNOT CONTINUE ATTACKING OPPOSITION HQs.
Which part of this do you not understand small borobor. Or yu sef dae take or trafick da Cocaine. Please just back in your shell.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 15:06:45 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
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You guys should stop this nonesense now. You don't know how much influence your posts on this forum have over the general youth population in Sierra Leone. If you continue to preach war in order to score political points, never forget that those points will account for nothing should war breakout.
Just yesterday, you adviced against such attempts to provoke war today you concurred a ploy by the most dangerous Bra Enviable whom I've realised was able to convince many of you that he's someone you can rely on simply because he can write like shakespare and you tend to be blinded by his evil promotions.
To all of you, be warned that Bra Enviable no longer have family ties in Sierra Leone, so any carnage emanated from war would have little or no effect on him.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: Jacob Kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 15:18:40 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: jacob.kanu@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
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Eddy Bra E is amongst the most peaceful Sierra Leoneans. What he is saying is real, and for a change be reasonable. Lets forget the politics for now. APC attacked SLPP party HQ - its even in We Yone Newspaper and international press (eg AP)
Now, Eddy boy tell me, why APC attacked the opposition HQ again? Give me just one reason please please please. And I want you to forget the politics biznes for a bit. Why?
I am waiting.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: Charles F Margai
To: All
Date Posted: 13:34:07 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: charles.margai@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
My take is that most of the APC forumites save a few like the Fen Ps and ULs, are ultra tribalists. Violence is the only thing they know.
The useless President we have is also a big part of the problem, as the leadership vacuum he has created means every thug is his own boss. EBK, like JS Momoh, wants to ruin Sierra Leone; but will end up ruining himself.
Bra E, the APC strategy is to provoke us into a confrontation and distract folks away from the Cocaine investigation, which I have reliably learnt will be roping in VP Sumana soon. They also want to use the ensuing chaos to facilitate a jail break so that their "mammy sweh" cocaine case will not be prosecuted. Emerging evidence from Ahmed Sesay's finacial records (eg cheques issued) show that he has, for the last 2 years been EBKokaine's biggest local sponsor. This is the only reason we have not defended ouselves yet. How long our party leadrs can restrain supporters is difficult to tell.. as indeed this menace has carried on for too long now.
I do not understand why the Reverend ignores all APC perpetuated violence. I just counted his head lines, and over 70% are praise-singing EBKokayne or the 1st Lady whilst even We Yone condemed recent acts of violence. Rev wakey wakey - the world is watching you.
EBK, if a jail break happens in this cocaine case, prepare for the worst time of your juvenile-loving life.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: MUSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 11:30:58 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.152.21.30
Message:
You so called charles margai,by publicly terming the President of your country as useless,is just an indication of how we Africans lack respect for our kinds,let alone our leaders.So do you expect any other race to respect your kind?We always cry of racism,discrimination and hatred,but sub-human as you are has justified that concept of racism towards our race.This President has got a human face unlike your members of your evil klan that left our country in misery.I hope you will use your thickhead brain next time before posting rubbish.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: Brabanxx
To: All
Date Posted: 13:24:00 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: brabanxx@aol.com
Entered From: static-216-83-121-130.sniparpa.net at 216.83.121.130
Message:
Eddie Grant:
This was exactly what I was alluding to in my response to this tribalist and war monger Bra Enviable. Monkey nor dae lef ee black han. With time Bra E will unmask himself. Ladies and gentlemen of the forum of patriots remember again, time and circunstance will restore the genuine.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 14:38:49 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.242.103.103
Message:
Bro, We must not allow these people to create a justifiable means of starting a war. Bra E is the lead Trumpet Blower, and the rest of his chickens are sure to follow. As we've seen right on this forum, most of these SLPP rats can only read but cannot comprehend, hence the reason we must stop people like Tribalistic Bra Enviable from preaching and sounding the horns of war. Its like the hunter with his dogs all it takes to spring them into action is 'shooo' and you'll see the dogs of war ravaging.
Just like I said, it is evident in this man's numerous tribalist postings that he has no ties in Sierra Leone he's completely absorbed into the US politics and he should leave Sierra Leonean politics alone otherwise the only contribution he's capable of giving is disaster. He's a lost fellow.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: Charles F Margai
To: All
Date Posted: 15:27:55 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: charles.margai@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
I am on the ground, and I know how people feel. Your beloved APC is trying to set the Cocaine boys free and are trying to provoke a riot. They assholes think they can use the chaos to free their buddies and prevent them from telling the world that they are the backbone of the new APC.
Ahmed has been caught on tape bragging of how he sponsored EBK and Cherikoko. When this comes out in court soon, you will understand the impact on your drowning party.
How can a serious government be sponsored by drug money. This is disgraceful.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: borbor
To: All
Date Posted: 13:28:47 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.203.80.27
Message:
There is no place for you in our democracy.
Subject: Re: The APC Declares War On the SLPP
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 13:01:42 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.242.103.103
Message:
It is better for you to rejoin the family ties you broke long time ago, because you've spent donkeys years in the west, you've became surreal and are now blinded by rantings from those SLPP miscreants.
A man of your calibre should have been more reasonable in reporting what you had just read from others, but instead, you became even the most dangerous preacher of hate. God help SaLone.
Subject: South/East hatred to Northerners
From: Theo
To: All
Date Posted: 12:36:59 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: p57a74293.dip.t-dialin.net at 87.167.66.147
Message:
Say the truth and the truth shall set you free,most south/eastern politician are not peace loving sierra leonean, the only thing they know is to forment trouble for their selfish need.I am none partisan born and raised in the west end of freetown but the way politics has been played for the past 11 months the future is bleak for mama sa.lone. I hope all those perpetrating this nonsense will be brought to book.
Subject: We do not hate civilised and peaceful Northerners
From: Charles F Margai
To: All
Date Posted: 12:54:28 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: charles.margai@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
The only Northerners and non-northerners that are hated by the whole country (not only S/E'ners) are those unpatriotic bent on destroying Salone for our kids:
Those, like you who vomit tribal rants
The violent thugs and their sponsors in black jeeps
The tribalists who think all tribes apart from theirs should be excluded
Those who sponsor attack on opposition offices
The Cocaine trafickers
Those who beat up electoral officers and pastors
Those who turn a blind eye whilst our country is taken to the cleaners; those who advocate for payment of illegal debts at the expense of the poor masses
Swebehs who muzzle press freedom
Those who blame everything on WORLD MARKET
Mr Theo, no one hates peace loving and progressive citizens. But if you are the violent tribalist type then prepare to get our wrath!!!!
Subject: SOMETHING TO GUIDE AND GUARD YOU IN LIFE.
From: Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS
To: All
Date Posted: 12:22:30 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: dialup-4.248.218.29.dial1.washington2.level3.net at 4.248.218.29
Message:
Go placidly amid the noise and the haste,
and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible, without surrender,
be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
and listen to others,
even to the dull and the ignorant;
they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons;
they are vexatious to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain or bitter,
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs,
for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
many persons strive for high ideals,
and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection.
Neither be cynical about love,
for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment,
it is as perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the counsel of the years,
gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Beyond a wholesome discipline,
be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe
no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be.
And whatever your labors and aspirations,
in the noisy confusion of life,
keep peace in your soul.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world.
Be cheerful. Strive to be happy. (source unknown)
Subject: NEW SLPP -NORTH AMERICA CHAIRMAN SENDS A STRONG MESSAGE TO T
From: Syl
To: All
Date Posted: 11:35:23 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host228.frk.com at 12.47.48.228
Message:
NEW SLPP -NORTH AMERICA CHAIRMAN SENDS A STRONG MESSAGE TO THE APC While Thanking the Region.
8.13.2008
FREETOWN: [JAMES OSAIO KAMARA reports New SLPP-NA Chair's address as sent from San Francisco, California, United States]: From the bottom of my heart I thank you all for showing that we can still live up to the values of the SLPP of our forefathers by which we have, like they then, pledged allegiance to this grand ole party, the SLPP and to the Republic of Sierra Leone, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all irrespective of one's tribal origin. We shall never again underestimate our opponents. We'll always be for peace but if our opponents were to force our hand, they must understand that there is nothing off the table. No one political party has a monopoly over violence, and political plurality in Sierra Leone must be practiced without the habitual recourse to violence every time our opponents fail to get their way.
Remember that the doctrine of mutually assured destruction has kept peace in Europe since WWII. Sierra Leone is at peace – thanks to the Sierra Leone People’s Party for ending a war that was triggered off by 24 years of APC misrule. We hope that our opponents understand that democracy is cultured conversations about how different and similar our positions are for the benefit of our beloved nation, and not about sending thugs to ransack the offices of political parties and brutalise and humiliate political opponents. Democracy with cutlasses, sticks, and rocks is not democracy. But equally, citizens reserve the right to protect themselves from cutlasses, sticks, and rocks, and those who use cutlasses, sticks, and rocks, must be ready to taste the bite and pain when the victims stand up to defend themselves.
Thank you to the brothers and sisters of Houston who worked so hard so that we can spend our time with ease. They have indeed set a standard by which every other future convention would be judged.
To the general membership of the SLPP at the convention, I thank you for comporting yourselves in a manner so civil that only an SLPP crowd can display. It is my determination, that hence forth, all Chapters will be fully represented and seated in all future conventions.
Finally I would like to thank two of the most tenacious and grinding competitors and sons of the Party; John Sandy and Sallu Saidu. Together we brought the best out of each other; nothing was taken for granted, alliances changed with minutes; it was a masterful chess board, made more interesting by the surrounding civility that could only be seen in an SLPP convention of yesteryears, of the Sir Miltons, the Kandeh Burehs, the Sanusi Mustaphas, the Thorlu-Banguras, the Yumkellas, the Yillas and the R. G. O Kings to name a few of old.
So to you Sallu and John, thank you for vigorous campaigns on all fronts, in the very essence of which we are all winners. For no one person is more important than the Party, So we must move together as a unit with all hands on deck, never again leaving our members in the lurch, never allowing divisiveness among us, for we as leaders, we are only as good as the least of our members.
So I will be reaching out to you and to all Chapter Heads to take a walk together down the lane of courage, conviction, and commitment, and together let's lift this Party to higher heights and let our people know that the political baton is about to be handed over to a younger generation who knows first hand what it is like to be born and/or brought up under the APC misrule and brutality, and are not afraid to defend their rights.
Thank you, all again as we continue to look at Sierra Leone in the conviction of:
ONE COUNTRY ONE PEOPLE
Augustine “Boss” Fallay
Chairman: SLPPNA
New People Profile: Augustine "Boss" Fallay is a highly succesful US based land use lawyer who holds a JD (Juris Doctor) and an LLM from the University of Kent in the United Kingdom.
Subject: Re: NEW SLPP -NORTH AMERICA CHAIRMAN SENDS A STRONG MESSAGE
From: DeLaw
To: All
Date Posted: 15:18:48 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: contehlawrence@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-66-61-130-113.insight.res.rr.com at 66.61.130.113
Message:
The chairman's message is very strong but singular and it does not offer an insight into how to unite the country and deliver it from the clutches of tribal,regional and bad party politics.It tends to continue in the old politics of assured mutual destruction within the monomania of the rancor between the APC and SLPP.We continue to be divided and be torn apart by some whose sole purpose is to lead the country into another crisis without stopping to think about both the consequences,as well as the unintended consequences of their saber -rattling.Tribal,regional and political differences do not have to turn into political hatred on our watch.We must find and pursue each other in the battle of ideas on how to deliver safe,free and fair elections and continue to build a more democratic society for the benefit of our people on either side of the political spectrum.
When it comes to political violence in Sierra Leone,both the APC and SLPP are culpable,perhaps unequally.Both parties continue to preside over a country that is governed by self-centered politicians who put their interest over and above the national interest and would use any means necessary to win an election from the time we started to elect our leaders through the ballot.
With the current mess over the cocaine issue and the attack of the SLPP offices as well the sporadic violence in some parts of the country over party differences,we need the kind of leadership that would send a stronger message to fight political party violence before,during and after each election. We need politicians who are thoroughly screened before holding any public position in the land. The politicians are using our differences to hide their incompetence to bring meaningful change and development to our people.At the end of the day,we are all Sierra Leoneans and we will live together before and after each election.How we live our lives is greatly influenced by the leaders we choose and the realization that we as a people do not need to resort to violence to put politicians in power.We must continue to fight for free and fair elections.Our future and the futures of our children depend on it.Look at what they have been through.I think we can all do better for the sake of peace,to foster prosperity in our beloved country.Time is running out on leaders that lack the vision and skills to deliver on behalf of our people.
.
Subject: Re: NEW SLPP -NORTH AMERICA CHAIRMAN SENDS A STRONG MESSAGE TO T
From: Charles F Margai
To: All
Date Posted: 11:55:51 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: charles.margai@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
They really do not call this fine gentleman "Boss" for nothing. He is the Boss of bosses.
I wish him well
Subject: Re: NEW SLPP -NORTH AMERICA CHAIRMAN SENDS A STRONG MESSAGE TO T
From: Alpha Saidu Bangura
To: All
Date Posted: 11:55:34 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: saidubangso@aol.com
Entered From: c-69-140-129-105.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.140.129.105
Message:
Syl, thank you for bringing out the message of our most dynamic leader, Mr. Augustine Fallay. Once again I congratulate Mr.Fallay on his election and I wish him well. I also thank our new chairman for making it clear to the WAR LORDS and blood hungry thugs of the APC that we will never be afraid of them. We are ready to stand up against them at any time. We the peace loving people of Sierra Leone will never again allow the agents of AGBA SATANIC(president Koroma, Victor Foh and Bockari Stevens, to name a few) to bring a bloody unrest to our country.
We will ensure that our people continue to enjoy the PEACE, thier SLPP brought to them and their country,SIERRA LEONE.
Subject: Re: NEW SLPP -NORTH AMERICA CHAIRMAN SENDS A STRONG MESSAGE TO T
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 13:09:16 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.242.103.103
Message:
The following are the only WAR LORDS in Sierra Leone since 1990:
(1) Foday Saybanah Sankoh (RUF)
(2) Valentine Strasser/Maada Bio (NPRC)
(3) Tejan Kabbah (SLPP) hired the Nigerians and armed the Kamajors to kill innocent civilians
There's no other known war lord in Sierra Leone, so Saidu when write words make sure you can define and use them in their right context
Subject: Re: NEW SLPP -NORTH AMERICA CHAIRMAN SENDS A STRONG MESSAGE TO T
From: Alpha Saidu Bangura
To: All
Date Posted: 16:52:39 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: saidubangso@aol.com
Entered From: c-69-140-129-105.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.140.129.105
Message:
Eddie, you really do not know what you are talking about, I advice you to go check the public records in the TRC. You will see the truth.
Subject: Re: NEW SLPP -NORTH AMERICA CHAIRMAN SENDS A STRONG MESSAGE TO T
From: one more
To: All
Date Posted: 15:22:58 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.108.136.237
Message:
What about the Late Sam Hinga Norman?
Subject: Re: NEW SLPP -NORTH AMERICA CHAIRMAN SENDS A STRONG MESSAGE TO T
From: bobor
To: All
Date Posted: 13:21:20 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.203.80.27
Message:
Slpp started the war, so they came back and ended it with impunity.
Subject: Who Is Your Favorite Forumite and Why?
From: Have Faith
To: All
Date Posted: 11:26:04 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
Who is your favorite forumite and why?
Please remember that under normal circumstances, a favorite forumite should not only be someone who shares the same ideas with you. Who is your favorite forumite on Cocorioko and why?
Subject: Re: Who Is Your Favorite Forumite and Why?
From: A Concerned Citizen
To: All
Date Posted: 15:35:15 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip70-179-108-126.dc.dc.cox.net at 70.179.108.126
Message:
Presently Zakmal, an articulate and precise intellectual; plain and simple.
Subject: Re: Who Is Your Favorite Forumite and Why?
From: Oona foolish en Idle
To: All
Date Posted: 09:20:25 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-98-14-200-25.nyc.res.rr.com at 98.14.200.25
Message:
Naar book people day eat? If democracy is really made simple,then you will find out that the majority of Sierra Leoneans are illiterate...Just because literacy is not a litmus test for patriotism,I believe that merit should be based on deliverables and not simple talk or vibes!
Subject: Re: Who Is Your Favorite Forumite and Why?
From: Bulldozer
To: All
Date Posted: 14:09:27 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: bulldozzer@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
Zakmal. True patriot, straight talker, decent, and has a mind of his own.
Keep it up Bro
Subject: Re: Who Is Your Favorite Forumite and Why?
From: Decent APC Supporter
To: All
Date Posted: 12:21:04 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: abusesay1999@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
It has to be Jacob Kanu for his show of love for Salone and tenacity in taming unpatriotic tribalists in the house
Subject: Re: Who Is Your Favorite Forumite and Why?
From: SabiMan
To: All
Date Posted: 11:42:16 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
Bambay Lans Kamara is my favorite forumite because he posts five thousand messages each time a new moon appears in the sky.
Subject: Re: Who Is Your Favorite Forumite and Why?
From: Joe Blunt
To: All
Date Posted: 12:14:56 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: joeblunt@sierratel.net
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
My favorite forumite is Bra E. His eloquence, patriotism and honesty is my reason.
Subject: did I hear you say, "THE CHIEF IN EXILE"?
From: KEEN OBSERVER
To: All
Date Posted: 12:12:55 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: dialup-4.248.218.29.dial1.washington2.level3.net at 4.248.218.29
Message:
I hear you say, "THE CHIEF IN EXILE"?
Subject: Re: did I hear you say, "THE CHIEF IN EXILE"?
From: borbor
To: All
Date Posted: 13:25:29 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.203.80.27
Message:
My favorite forumite is Zakmal. He is always neutral and will give you the best response.
Subject: No Nonsense
From: The BOSS Speaks
To: All
Date Posted: 11:13:49 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 66-195-13-10.static.twtelecom.net at 66.195.13.10
Message:
Here is a message for APC. APC will lead our country to another war.
http://www.thenewpeople.com/080813bossfallayspeaks.htm
Subject: The Passing Away of My Generation
From: Mensa
To: All
Date Posted: 10:19:06 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: s100-masq.iptelsl.net at 83.229.112.20
Message:
My days as a student in Saudi Arabia did give me the opportunity to travel home annually. Throughout my student days, I was able to identify and engage with my peers. My annual trips did not only keep me up-to-date with the trends of our society, it also kept me intact with a particular generation that was able to identify me in every corner. Old schoolmates, former boddies, long time girlfirnds, business partners etc. would identify you from a distance and enquire "Oos Tem You Cam?" (When did you arrive?") This question would have to be answered on countless occasions because the society still have a fresh memory of your face, your attributes, your friendship, your accorlades, your good works etc.
However, since I graduated and started working, I never had the opportunity to be travelling the way I used to during my student days. Just now I've come to realize that the society is having a memory lapse on my identity. Imagine walking from Turn-Table to PZ without surprising anybody? Where is my generation? Is my generation becoming "extinct" or gradually passing away! Indeed, it pains to realise that, after all these years of absence, no old friend could reward me with a joyous greetings for taking the bold step of coming home! Hey, I'm used to enjoy those 'blasts'! Now though, there is a lesson to be learnt!
We are losing touch folks..... those of us who have been living abroad for too long! Our long stay abroad without frequent visits is costing us! We may not have a choice, but the very 'abroad life' does not recognize us much except by document. We come home hoping to provoke and recapitulate on historic events ..... hoping to reminisce on those happy moments! Really, society is wickedly turning it's back on us .... on people like us. Is ist possible for everybody to have gone abroad from my generation! No! They can't all be dead!Today is my forth day in Freetown and they still aren't coming out in droves to express shock and surprise, together! It's time to put some proper thought into perspective! We might come back home and live a lonely life! It's time to keep coming and make new friends ... less the society will erase us from its memory!
One more thing! Those of us who travelled before the rebel war may be in for a big surprise. We may have focussed a lot on merriment and having a good time during holidays, we may have missed the significant purpose of living abroad, which is, getting oneself in readiness to return home. Well, the folks that went after the war ... the little kids we taught in school who battled their way out of Sierra Leone ... the down-trodden kids who survived as refugees and made it abroad ..... well .....those youths are bloody for buildings! You see most of the new buildings erected around Wellington, Calaba town, Fomes, Allen town, Waterloo are owned by young folks! They watched buildings burn and crumble and they knew they had a mission to fulfill. Even in transportation, the 'Saint John Poda Poda' vehicles are no more special brands for St. John. You can now count hundreds of these vehicles plowing the road to and from Wellington, Waterloo, Port Loko, Lumbley, Lokomasama... I mean everywhere.
So, if you think you have a project you need to impliment in Sierra Leone, you shouldn't hesitate anymore. 'Hesitation' is not a word in the dictionary of the 'Bloody Kids'! As our generation die out, we shouldn't let our ambitions die with it .... at least for the sake of our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren. Home is always home, no matter what!
Subject: Re: The Passing Away of My Generation
From: WORRIED
To: All
Date Posted: 11:49:58 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 84.54.30.6
Message:
Are you in Freetown? Can you update on the attack on the SLPP Party office? Thanks
Subject: Re: The Passing Away of My Generation
From: Amadu Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 11:57:31 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
Are you asking a half-baked thinker and APC fanatic, Mensa, to tell you about attacks on the SLPP?
Subject: Re: The Passing Away of My Generation
From: zakmal
To: All
Date Posted: 10:38:58 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
Entered From: at 74.95.90.81
Message:
Well said Mensa. I hope all in this forum are enjoying your daily reports from freetown as I do. I havn't been home in a long time and I think I have to now heed your advice and start making trips home as I did before starting raising a family. I hope to bring my kids as well as it would make them appreciate what they currently have here in the States. Keep up the good work and stay blessed.
Subject: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma and Dr. Curtis: Two Rubbish Dumpers
From: Forum Lover
To: All
Date Posted: 09:37:40 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
This forum was created for people to express opinions and have some fun. But Mohamed Kutubu Koroma and Dr. Curtis--two idle rubbish throwers--- spend all day dumping one piece of rubbish after the other. Can these two idlers take a break by reducing the junk dumped on us every minute? Damn!
Subject: Re: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma and Dr. Curtis: Two Rubbish Dumpers
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 09:49:11 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-241-236-103.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.241.236.103
Message:
Frankly,i can relate to your concern because you do not have the intellectual alliteration to publish anything that can convey sense to you let alone the vast concourse of the readers.
"WHEN THE FOX DOES NOT HAVE THE GRAPES,IT SAYS IT IS SOUR".
Finally,i have never assumed liability for one's intellectual weakness,nor i am ready to accept one on your part.
You have the choice not to read the "RUBBISH".I however have the feeling that i am personally bridging your emptiness and for that matter,you should be very thankful.Also remember,it is within the constrains of free speech that i elect to write.You either put up,or shut up.Plain and simple.
Subject: Re: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma and Dr. Curtis: Two Rubbish Dumpers
From: bobsonmans
To: All
Date Posted: 15:12:10 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: bobsonmans69@btinternet.com
Entered From: 5ac57da4.bb.sky.com at 90.197.125.164
Message:
Don't mind your detractors. I think your contribution in this forum is massive.No matter what you write, whatever position on issues you take, whatever angle you approach discussions, your pieces are always intellectually resourceful, literally inciting, linguistically flawless and structurally sound. Continue your postings.I only wish i have as much free time as you do to respond and engage you in your analysis of issues.
Subject: Re: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma and Dr. Curtis: Two Rubbish Dumpers
From: Brabanxx
To: All
Date Posted: 12:33:58 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: brabanxx@aol.com
Entered From: static-216-83-121-130.sniparpa.net at 216.83.121.130
Message:
Frankly,i can relate to your concern because you do not have the intellectual alliteration to publish anything that can convey sense to you let alone the vast concourse of the readers....MKK
Please heed to the advice that was given to you by one of our forumites. Your statement above does not make sense. You are full of arrogance and ego. Sometimes your arrogance preceeds your ego. This is an example of such a stance. In as much as some of us come to this forum to learn, we do not want to put others down; so to speak. I think a profilic writer's goal should be that of effectively communicating to the readers.
Here's dictionary.com's take on your impressive word-alliteration:
1. the commencement of two or more stressed syllables of a word group either with the same consonant sound or sound group (consonantal alliteration), as in from stem to stern, or with a vowel sound that may differ from syllable to syllable (vocalic alliteration), as in each to all. Compare consonance (def. 4a).
2. the commencement of two or more words of a word group with the same letter, as in apt alliteration's artful aid.
Some forumites have earned degrees which in your remaining span of a lifetime, you will not be able to earn. This is however not the place to placard the names. Even though some of us are masked behind various monikers, I will assure you that time and circumstance will restore the genuine. Please MKK spare us the jagon next time.
Subject: Re: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma and Dr. Curtis: Two Rubbish Dumpers
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 20:15:20 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-241-236-103.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.241.236.103
Message:
It is self serving stoolies of your ilk who are the cause of the nation's teething problems.
Your sense of excellence,sense of bigness,and fixed grandeur.Who cares for your so called "DEGREES"you make claims to?
The likes of you are so awashed in stark ignorance that nothing will be done to save you.
If i should remind you,it is position such as the one you have adopted that constitutes the bane affecting Dr.Abdulai Conteh when he goes about thinking that he is the Alpha and Omega of academia.
Your so called "Degrees "are as insignificant to me as your very humanity.
Subject: Re: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma and Dr. Curtis: Two Rubbish Dumpers
From: Listen To Common Sence
To: All
Date Posted: 11:19:34 08/14/08 ()
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Message:
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma, you have vindicated your critic. What you wrote in response is so full of nonsense that you need to go back to school.
You tried to talk about intellectual prowess, but you ended up being the intellectually insignificant. Please listen to FORUM LOVER's advice and reduce the rubbish posted here. Although we may not like what they say, this forum tends to look more interesting when men with brains and intellectual prowess write. Please reduce the trash you dump on us every minute with long idiotic postings.
Subject: Re: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma and Dr. Curtis: Two Rubbish Dumpers
From: Londoner
To: All
Date Posted: 10:01:55 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
'intellectual alliteration'
Mohamed,
What does the above expression mean or supposed to mean?
I think you need to pay this website a visit: www.plainenglish.co.uk
Subject: Re: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma and Dr. Curtis: Two Rubbish Dumpers
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 20:30:19 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-241-236-103.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.241.236.103
Message:
"Mr.Londoner",i have just said in my posting in reply to that misguided and ignorant upstart that i do not assume liability for one's intellectual weakness.
If you do not have the cognitive ability to discern my postings,it is too bad and there is absolutely nothing i can do to the effect.
I am not on this forum to engage any one in the collegiate battle of the brains.In short,i am not here to show who i am or what my intellectual standing is or lack thereof.The thing about us Sierra Leoneans is that we are too showoffish.We always want to impress upon others that we are the best educated.That explains while the nation finds itself at critical cross roads.Until we change our attitude,mentality,and perception of who we are,Sierra Leone is headed for the abyss of annihillation.That is all i have to say to you sir.
Subject: Re: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma and Dr. Curtis: Two Rubbish Dumpers
From: Londoner
To: All
Date Posted: 08:44:20 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
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CASSIUS: Tell me, good Brutus, can you see your face?
BRUTUS: No, Cassius; for the eye sees not itself,
But by reflection, by some other things.
Julius Caesar, I, ii
Subject: DOMESTICE AND FOREIGN POLICY ISSUES:RICE EMERGES AS NO 1.
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 09:27:55 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-241-236-103.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.241.236.103
Message:
DOMESTIC AND FOREIGN POLICY ISSUES:
IN AND ADMINISTRATION THAT WAS ONCE DOMINATED BY NEO CONSERVATIVES,CONDOLEEZA RICE EMERGES PREMIUS INTER PARES IN POLICY MAKING:
George W.Bush 42 came to power in 2000 bringing with no foreign policy experiences.
He was however able to dominate his first administration with Neo Conservatives and Pragmatists .One of those Pragmatists is Condoleeza Rice,the current Secretary of State.
She came to the job well objectified with the breast plate of integrity,the armor of discipline,and the sword of service and selflessness.As an accomplished academic,he is a specialist in Sovietology,and was also Provost at Sanford University.She served a tour in the Bush 41 administration on Soviet matters.
As National Security Adviser in the first term,she was placed in a very difficult position because she had to mid wife policy disagreements between the hard line Neo Conservatives in the persons of Paul Wolfowitz,Richard Cheney,John Bolton,Richard Pearl,and Douglas Fieth,with their mentor Senator Helms to protect them on policy matters in the Senate.That group became known as the “THE RUMSFELDIANS”.
At Foggy Bottom,was an old retired soldier statesman who was pressed back into active service as the presumed vicar of United States foreign policy Colin Luther Powel who led a group of moderates or pragmatists.They were known as the “POWELITES”.
Both groups were locked in mortal conflict over control of America’s influence and destiny around the globe.
The Neo Conservatives saw the world in general,and the United Nations in particular as places inhabited by implacable foes of the United States of America bent on the utter destruction of everything original and profound about the USA and was therefore loath to deal with them.To them,it was a policy of do it alone and our way or no way.
As the curtain on George Bush’s presidency is about to fall,historians are busy trying to figure how to put everything in focus and perspective,the failures and accomplishments.
It is against that backdrop that this writer has decided to show case Condoleeza Rice one of the few officials who emerged from relative quietness in the performance of her duties as NSC boss to the most powerful official in the current dispensation by reason of the fact that she has successfully led a team of pragmatists,who have wrestled power from the Neo Conservatives and today,she is very much in charge of the formulation,articulation,and implementation of both domestic and foreign policy issues at the expense of the Neo Conservatives led by Richard Cheney and others.
Before getting to that however,we must examine very closely what the Neo Conservatives had all along as their personal agenda even before Bush ascended the presidency.
This group had carefully plotted a strategy whereby they will assert the USA’s political,military,and economic dominance of the world.The word according to them was arrayed against the USA’s vested interests and that nations such as Iran,Iraq,North Korea,and by extention,the Soviet Union were ruled by very evil leaders with totalitarian tendencies peppered with anti Americanism.
With Bush in power,the Neo Conservatives regrouped at the Pentagon,the nerve center of America’s military industrial complex with an agenda of their own totally at odds with established policies.The civilian headship was also locked in mortal conflicts with the military brass and sought to undermine them every step of the way in policy decisions making.They established their own channel of communications withoutsiders whose hawkish views of military matters became sacrosanct.
9-11,became their pay day when after the dastardly attack on the USA,they rolled out their plans for retaliation against their sworn enemies,the Muslims in general and Saddam Hussein in particular.They concocted pyramid of lies,and cynical deception in order to invade Iraq.They spoke of “WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION” in Iraq in spite of reports to the contrary by the international inspectors from the Atomic Agency.The Rumsfeldians will buy non of that.
While the pink stripe diplomats at Foggy Bottom were trying to internationalize the debacle that befell the nation,Rumsfeld and his team were busy undermining them in every ways.They considered the multinationalism approach by the Powelites too obstructionist and cumbersome.The Powelites contended that the strength and influence of the United States of America in such hour of need will be enhanced and sustained through collaborative efforts with the allies in general and the United Nations organization as a whole in particular.The Rumsfeldians will have non of that,embarked on a cynically reckless military adventure that costs lives and river of money not to talk about the monumental damage done to the credibility of the United States around the globe.They also lost crucial support of key allies such as Germany and France that Rumsfeld took to calling “OLD EUROPE”.The only credible western allies that stood with the USA were UK.Itali,and Spain and even that the leaders of those natipons paid heavy political prices for supporting an illegal war.
The war for all intent and purposes was very flawed,badly managed,and poorly executed.Mr.Bush very mindful of his place in history or its verdict on his leadership has decided to reverse course shifting from confrontational style of governance to a new dispensation that borders on pragmatism,as it is not only justified,but imperative.The administration has seen the need to modify most of the initial policies that were implemented because they proved unworkable.
In marked demonstration of that,the president has been forced to make changes in the composition of the administration and that has seen the departure of almost the entire Neo Conservatives from Rumsfeld to Bolton.
It is against this back drop that Condoleeza Rice the Secretary of State has emerged as premus inter pares in policy making decisions with other pragmatists in the likes of Robert Zoellick that was sent to replace one of the hard liners as president of the world bank,Stephen Hadley,as NSC boss,Hank Paulson,at Treasury,and Robert Gates at the Pentagon.Rice now has clearly emerged as the undisputed leader of the new team at the expense of Richard Cheney and others who are out of the picture completely.With the new team in place,there are signs of positive albeit slow changes but nonetheless very significant for an administration at war with itself.Such changes are very noticeable in the policy directions of Iran,Iraq,North Korea,India,and China, all due to the pragmatic leadership of Secretary Rice.
WHY THE ADMINISTRATION FAILED IN CRITICAL AREAS.
The Neo Conservatives overplayed their perceived reception they thought will greet the take over of Iraq thereby significantly unaware of the existential dilemma in the offing by Saddam’s tribesmen.They also went into the war under manned in logistical support,and make the unpardonable mistake by disbanding the standing army,living the security of the nation in turmoil.There was no international support for the war,nor did it have the approbation of the Arab nations.In the midst of overwhelming evidence of abject failure,the president stubbornly stuck with the Neo Conservatives who were the architects of the failed policy inspite of repeated calls for the dismissal of Donald Rumsfeld.The administration paid heavy price in the mid term elections when the Democract took control of both houses.
As Condoleeza Rice and other pragmatists gradually took control of the power configuration,they were able to get the president to reverse course on most issues such as collaborating with the very p[eople they have labeled “TERRORISTS”.Whereas they were initially opposed to the invitation of the regional neighbors to help ameliorate the hopeless situation,suddenly,they became amenable to such designs even going as far as pleading with them to open diplomatic missions in Baghdad.
Afghanistan which should have been the focal point in the war against the terriorists was completely jettisoned because the Neo Conservatives were obsessed with the down fall of Saddam.It took considerable diplomatic skills on the part of the pink stripe diplomats at Foggy Bottom to convince George Bush about the need for more troops in the region,
The strategis miscalculation on the part of the administration was that they came to power rejecting everything president Clinton did including the Kyoto climate treaty.They also rejected the carefully negotiated settlements with North Korea on their nuclear weapons program even though Secretary Powel was all for it.
With Rice and other moderates now in full control of policy making and implementation,Bush now sees the usefulness of a multi international approach to world problems as opposed to the isolationist tendency that was the hall mark in the first term.Rice and Gates should be credited for this new approach even though it comes too late in the game.
On Iran,the administration has had an about face turn and is now willing to fully engage the government in diplomatic talks and unconditional support for the six party talks initiated by the EU on their nuclear programs as well.
The same can be said for Pakistan,India,and China.Where there has been dogmatic approach to world problems,United States is increasingly taking a pragmatic stance in dealing with other nations.As this trend continues,Rice’s influence and clout around the world takes on an added importance because unlike Powel who did not have the attention of Bush,she has the ears of the president more than Richard Cheney theses days to the extent there are unconfirmed rumors that she will be on McCain’s ticket although that is too far fertched.
At first when she served as NSC boss,she was dismissed as an inept manager unable to rein in on the big egos in thew administration.
As Secretary of State however,she has gone from the cautious official she once was in an administration that was heavily dominated by Neo Conservatives who looked at things that never dovetailed their philosophy as misguided,anti American,and venal,to one of the most powerful,influential,and respected diplomats in the 21st century all on account of assidiousness,and pragmatism.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Exposing the Neotribalists: Pedro da Cintra, Et al
From: Forum Researcher
To: All
Date Posted: 09:15:01 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Pedro da Cintra = Bai Bureh = Taveh Gutu = Smart Cavalier. Add Eddie Grant to this insidious chain of monikers of the shameless APC Task Force thug who posts from Sweden and you have two neotribalists and regionalists who do not belong in decent Sierra Leonean communities. Their antiquated beliefs (based on their postings on this forum) are rooted in the postulate that Sierra Leoneans are better off living in primitive tribal as opposed to modern societies where cultural diversity and interconnections are encouraged. These airheads yearn for the destruction of modern political systems and the holding back of technological civilization since in their bigoted and myopic conception, these improvements would hinder a healthy tribal lifestyle.
The rise to power of the APC has given these forum charlatans more scope to bash other ethnic groups with impunity and in the process forge the APC as a purely Northern domain. To them, votes received by the APC from other regions in the last general elections do not factor in the equation of APC support since that might prompt the inclusion of non-Northern ethnicities into the APC fold, which might be a threat to the party’s survival. Also, political parties in opposition should be distanced as far as possible from serious national discourse since these parties are made up entirely of non-Northern ethnicities. This antiquated and hegemonistic attitude to power is not only moronic but totally destructive of any attempt at building national unity and cohesion in a post-conflict environment. It is time to expose these miscreants for who they really are - neotribalists.
Subject: Re: Exposing the Neotribalists: Pedro da Cintra, Et al
From: Joe Blunt
To: All
Date Posted: 12:06:10 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: joeblunt@sierratel.net
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
I agree 110% to your analysis. The Dull Cadaver even wrote on this forum a while ago that The APC must be strictly Northern.
These ultra tribalists behind the monikers you have mentioned: Pedro da Cintra; Bai Bureh; Taveh Gutu; Smart Cavalier and Eddie Grant are a disgrace to most decent supporters of APC. Thank God they are labouring in the Diaspora, or they would be the Cocained Thugs marauding our beloved country.
But we will continue to pray for all those alaki folks who support violence in motherland. Den go mus gbekinyeki b4 den ... pas den change den ways oooh
Subject: GENERAL DR.YAKUBU GOWON AND PERSONAL MORAL INTEGRITY.
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 08:10:23 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-241-236-103.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.241.236.103
Message:
GENERAL DR.YAKUBU GOWON AND PERSONAL MORAL INTEGRITY.
He came to power on July 29,1966,and was deposed nine years later by his trusted friend while attending the OAU meeting in Uganda.
He was a very poor military officer when he took power and he left financially poor inspite of the oil boom.
Perhaps with the exception of the moral icon Nelson Mandela,I am wondering how many African leaders can truly lay claim to financial honesty while in office?
I should think none.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Voctor FohTo Approve APC Saudi Branch
From: Angthorf
To: All
Date Posted: 05:57:02 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: soyanka@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 212.71.37.69
Message:
Brother Mensa, there you are finally! Thanks to Allah for safe arrival in the land of the ancestors. I thank you for the realistic reporting about the way things are in our country. Keep us posted.
I would like to seize this opportunity to inform you that we the APC enthusiasts and admirers in the Middle East, who have been gathering tumultuous support for the party during the last presidential and parliamentary elections are impatiently waiting to complete the registration process of our already formed branch in Saudi Arabia.
It is good to know that our chairman is currently in the UK for studies. He has been coordinating the registration issue. However, we have been frustrated by the news from him that Victor Foh, the party secretary general insisted that the registration of the party branch and its executive should be inclusive. Representatives from various tribes and districts should be in the party! How on earth can such assertion be possible? Does the party secretary know our ethnic representation in the Middle East? Or does he mean that even if other ethnic groups or district members have no desire to join the APC, should be a barrier for our branch registration? Is this logical? Please help to get a proper verification on the matter. God bless you.
Subject: Re: Voctor FohTo Approve APC Saudi Branch
From: longhorn
To: All
Date Posted: 08:46:36 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: longhorn1978@live.com
Entered From: at 77.30.119.41
Message:
God bless you Angthorf decent chap
Subject: Re: Voctor FohTo Approve APC Saudi Branch
From: SALIFU PAPAH
To: All
Date Posted: 08:06:17 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 83.229.112.21
Message:
It does not make much sense. but i will ask him here about it.
Subject: Are you a cleaner or a thug Mr Papah
From: Teacher Sanu
To: All
Date Posted: 11:52:55 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: tsanu@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
I hope even Cocaine APC is not drugged enough to give you any serious role. You can barely spell your own name.
Subject: Re: Are you a cleaner or a thug Mr Papah
From: SALIFU PAPAH
To: All
Date Posted: 21:09:18 08/15/08 ()
Email Address: sabbok2003@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 83.229.112.21
Message:
i will leave you with my leattle doughter,( she will teach you what you don't understand) may be you might be thinking the same. i have learned that,the reason why people want to know too much about what others know is because they are not too sure whether their thoughts are correct. can we just shift our discussion to some different? or you want me to tell you some thing else???????? you coward
Subject: 7 REASONS WHY APC WILL LOSE COME 2012
From: Sam Maskita Bockarie
To: All
Date Posted: 04:47:47 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: klo3975@gmail.com
Entered From: 213-165-36-138.zajoulnet.com at 213.165.36.138
Message:
1 Come 2012 NEC will have a new chief electoral commissioner as Christiana’s contract would end in 2010 and she doesn’t want to renew it “crook krio gyal”.
2 Your coalition partner PMDC will not back you this time around “as na mistake dem bin make”Charlie nor gladi oh”
3 YES program has been shut down. Pa Koroma for your information a youth who voted for you and helped won votes for you is now jobless and hopeless “Man dem nor gladi oh”
4 This time around every vote will be counted and not live out 470 polling stations.
5 International scandals
6 Wide spread political intimidation thuggery and unopposed politics.
7 Serious leadership problem “Mushkilla” one bad decision maker en low self esteem man AG
Big tok “Attitudinal Change” let our leaders change there attitude and be bright examples then “we di pipul we go change” Pa Koroma you look like a good man but you must weed out the conmen, drug smugglers, dealers, drunks, demon possessed (piss na plane)and all these low lives
Subject: Re: 7 REASONS WHY APC WILL LOSE COME 2012
From: Gbaytay Masiah
To: All
Date Posted: 08:55:46 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: ishharkato@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: c83-248-235-239.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.235.239
Message:
Jacob Kanu stop dreaming! It is too early to have dreams like these.Your cannibal SLPP has to first of all show Saloneans that they are a responsible opposition before thinking of being trusted with the mantle of leadership again. But to be really honest with you your cannibal party has no chance to rule again until after fifteen years. The SLPP does not have what it takes to be a ruling party in Salone.Your leaders are too ugly, irresponsible,violently educated and useless to be presidents or ministers.
Subject: Gbaytay Masiah, I don't dream my friend,,.. I blast...
From: Jacob Kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 11:44:43 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: jacob.kanu@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
Just to clarify things Mr or Miss Masiah. I agree with Mr SM Bockarie on all his points. I am not Sam however.
Subject: Re: Gbaytay Masiah, I don't dream my friend,,.. I blast...
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 12:03:46 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.242.103.103
Message:
How could you not agree to yourself? bo cousin go lap.
Subject: Re: 7 REASONS WHY APC WILL LOSE COME 2012
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 06:52:57 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123
Message:
Sam, Ernest Koroma will be reelected come 2012 for two very important reasons among many others:
1) He has four more years to rectify the conundrum his government is in presently....Four years is a lifetime in politics. Heck, one month is an eternity!
2) The SLPP is not taking advantage of the void created by the ethical and legal difficulties of the government. The Green Bombas are not offering concrete, constructive or practical solutions and alternatives to APC governance. Instead they are happily rubbing their hands in malicious glee at the self-inflicted difficulties of the administration. Schadenfreude does not win votes, my friends, especially when recent SLPP history is as nightmarish as they come.
For all of us, Red, Orange or Green, it behoves us to consider the admonition:
Lead, follow or get the f$@k out of the way.
To a lesser extent....
Charles Margai, despite his much-heralded disgruntlement with the APC, is still a coalition partner....his people are still government ministers. Charlie Boy nor gladi? Ar nor so sure O.
Subject: Re: 7 REASONS WHY APC WILL LOSE COME 2012
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 07:33:09 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: lpsdsl2.claranet.co.uk at 79.123.36.144
Message:
Becareful, you could be branded the most unpatriotic chap on this forum since you speak the truth.
Remember the SLPPers are happy with you only when you advocate South/Eastern inclusion in government. If you dare show your true support for the APC, you would be roasted by these guys, they hate the truth about their party's miserable 11 year rule and would not settle for a Northerner being their leader.
I warned everyone here sometime ago that the failure by the SLPP to retain power will cause serious problems as they are prepared to do everything including HIGHWAY ROBBERIES and supporting rebellion.
Did you read the bias report by the SLPP journalist Sitta Turay? Lets be honest, Bo town though its a diverse city is still the stronghold of the SLPP. No other tribe would be able fill the local government's institutions such as the constabulary than the indegenes, whose affiliation if any would strongly be that of SLPP, so how comes they focused their attention on repelling the SLPP supporters? the answer is simple, they are the perpetuators of the violence that ensued in Bo on Saturday 09/08/2008 through to Sunday 10/08/2008.
My business partner who happened to be an SLPP supporter was in BO town on Saturday and Sunday when the whole thing started. According to him, he said the SLPPers are very angry at the PMDC for their alliance with APC so the PMDC was their prime target before they decided to pursue the APC youths and that's the reason the violence escalated.
Sitta Turay and others who took it opon themselves to give reports that would only be seen to exornorate the behaviour of the SLPP youths are not doing the country any good. They can convince some of us who live in the West to believe their cooked stories but cannot persuade those on the ground who are physically affected by the SLPP propaganda violence. Many SLPP supporters are now having second thoughts about who's actually perpetuating violence. And many people now believe that the SLPP is strongly adopting the Old APC tactics.
We're sorry.
Subject: Re: 7 REASONS WHY APC WILL LOSE COME 2012
From: Alpha Saidu Bangura
To: All
Date Posted: 11:33:04 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: saidubangso@aol.com
Entered From: c-69-140-129-105.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.140.129.105
Message:
Eddie, please, be very careful with your blind support for the APC because makes you look funny. Do you in your right mind believe that the entire team of government officials must come from one district or province? What is the sense in president Koroma falsely accusing the SLPP of spreading tribalism and regionalism, while he is presently spreading it?
Everybody in Sierra Leone knows that the APC is made up of thugs and vandals. All what the APC knows is WAR,WAR--WAR. Please, check the records, you will prove me right.
Subject: Re: 7 REASONS WHY APC WILL LOSE COME 2012
From: borbor
To: All
Date Posted: 13:59:01 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.203.80.27
Message:
"All what the APC knows is WAR,war-- war. Please,check the records, you will prove me right."
Sir, becareful. Who are the Ndorgbowusus? the kaindekaka's, the RUF's who quickly turn SLPP.
History proved that the Slpp are the godfathers of corruption, violence, intimidation, tribalism, cronism, bigotory, and the list goes on and on.
The kingpin for these corrupt practices was Albert Margai. Now, don't say no one thought you nothing about the history you want to mock. If Albert had behaved like a civilise leader we probably wount be in this prrdicaments.
Subject: Re: 7 REASONS WHY APC WILL LOSE COME 2012
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 12:21:28 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.242.103.103
Message:
I want to first of all correct you. The APC has never in our history been implicated or even rumoured in war against it people, its quiet evident that the SLPP was involved in rebel incursion in our country as well as coarsed the NPRC coupists. Now look where their frustration is taking them, HIGHWAY ARMED ROBBERY. So Saidu, instead of telling me to becareful its you who should be.
Preaching tribalism is the work of the SLPP the past council elections is a testimony to that.
You accused me of blind support when I supported the SLPP for 11 good years infact you're the blind supporter otherwise you would have been able to see wreckage the SLPP left for one full generation, they lavished funds ignored all important areas of development and focussed on how to keep their loot very secure so that the preceeding administration would not find it difficult to operate but will be unable to unearth the loot.
Who're you to tell me how to support my party when since you entered this forum you not said anthing good in terms of progress made by this government even when your party made Sierra Leone the darkest country on earth. The truth about the SLPP attacks on both the PMDC and APC will come out sooner or later.
Me man, you need to go to Sierra Leone to realise the damage your party tactics is causing for them selves. You sit here and thinking everybody think the same as you.
Subject: Eddy yoiu type nar Burmeh nor mor yu fit
From: Bulldozer
To: All
Date Posted: 11:24:43 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: bulldozzer@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
Please leave Sitta Turay out of you misguide rants. Sitta did not send your party to start trading in Cocaine. He did not ask your big fool Agnes to pay Lebanese Shylock 75 Billion whislt Local Governments in the entire Salone get only 33B for 4 years.
What do you think about the dastardly APC plan to free the Cocaine prisoners. If this happens will you still support your cocaine gof'ment?
Me man wake up from your slumber and start loving Mama Salone more. Follow the sensible UL - thats how decent people behave. You earn more respect than continously making an @$$ of yourself.
Subject: Re: Eddy yoiu type nar Burmeh nor mor yu fit
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 12:35:38 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.242.103.103
Message:
I love my country more than you can ever imagine. So take your baseless accusations and shove them.
I promise you that this is the only government that will bring meaningful living standards for our people. your 'Konkoruma' SLPP destroyed our country for a whole generation. If you don't want to hear that, then I suggest you dig a huge hole and bury yourself because I will continue to echo the misdeeds of your bad hart SLPP.
Sitta Turay is not a genuine journalist otherwise he would have exposed those involved in drug trafficking in early 2007 when he was privy to an alleged helicopter landing at the Choithram hospital. He did allegedly contacted police but no sooner he realised his SLPP topguns were involved, he shut up. Would it have been APC in power, this guy would have even hired all kinds of intelligence to expose those involved.
Subject: Re: 7 REASONS WHY APC WILL LOSE COME 2012
From: How concern
To: All
Date Posted: 09:44:42 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: static-70-20-197-79.phil.east.verizon.net at 70.20.197.79
Message:
Am still watching you.
Subject: Re: 7 REASONS WHY APC WILL LOSE COME 2012
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 12:37:50 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.242.103.103
Message:
Well cousin, you'll continue to watch me because I'm ready to expose the 'bad hart' thoughts of your SLPP.
They destroyed our country for and put us back by 50 years.
Subject: Re: 7 REASONS WHY APC WILL LOSE COME 2012
From: Maskita
To: All
Date Posted: 08:43:21 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: longhorn1972@live.com
Entered From: at 77.30.119.41
Message:
Uman lappa u nar gud fella keep it up man
Subject: Re: 7 REASONS WHY APC WILL LOSE COME 2012
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 12:39:49 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
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Thank you bro though I'm not Uman Lappa.
My name continue to be Eddie Grant you can confirm this with the Moderator that I've not used any other name.
Subject: Re: 7 REASONS WHY APC WILL LOSE COME 2012
From: two brains
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Date Posted: 05:35:00 08/14/08 ()
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You have revealed your ignorance. First when Christina terms expires, it is the APCpresident who will appoint the lectoral commisioner.
I can assure you EBK, unlike the fulunmuku Kabba, President Koroma is going to be cork sure that who ever he appoints as the elctoral commissioner is ultra loyalist APC.
Kabba is a sell-out if you still do not know that. He knew that Christina Thorpe and Koroma are lovers just as I know that Koroma has an unofficial second wife Arabella Foray-daughter of late prof C P Foray. Yey kabba appointed Christina as his lelctoral commissioner.
The other reasons you have proferred are complete rubish and am wondering whether this is representative of the general SLPPthinking. I would not be surprise if it is.
The SLPP has to stop the self- denial and accept that thier leaders failed them and that as a consequence, the party is in absulute disarray.
Whatt they need doing first and foremost is to identify their weaknesses, conduct some research on the future and come up with a blue print.
Please note, two brains is a true blue blood SLPP, so do not think am an SLPP hater. I just have two brains that allow me to see things from the otherside as well. And I think that is more helpful than being a foolish fanatics.
Subject: Re: 7 REASONS WHY APC WILL LOSE COME 2012
From: 333
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Date Posted: 09:39:29 08/14/08 ()
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If Arabella Foray is EBK's second wife, what is Isatu Will and where does that leave Diana Konomani?
Subject: Re: 7 REASONS WHY APC WILL LOSE COME 2012
From: two brains
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Date Posted: 09:56:13 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: twobrains@yahoo.com
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Sir
My actions and words are govern by certain principles. I only make statement that I know them to be true. I know that Arabella and EBK are lovers-almost unofficial second wife. Arabella likes Limba men, her ex husband is a Limba. As for Isatu and Diana I do not know them, never even seen them.
Subject: Re: 7 REASONS WHY APC WILL LOSE COME 2012
From: dumbeh
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Date Posted: 10:25:48 08/14/08 ()
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Ernest is temne, not limba. his father was from tonkolili. mom may be limba, not sure. Lamin Skandia Bangura, the former husband of the woman you mentioned is very likely temne, again not sure. But I think you are a benign fool out to cause trouble, true or false?
Subject: Re: 7 REASONS WHY APC WILL LOSE COME 2012
From: two brains
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Date Posted: 11:01:23 08/14/08 ()
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Mr Dumbeh
As your name suggests, you admitted you are not sure of what you said. So why do you say things you are not sure of?
Subject: Interesting Article/Link...
From: Larry
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Date Posted: 01:51:20 08/14/08 ()
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Confused Eagle...
Terrorists Moving Around West Africa At will?
Recently there have been High Profile attacks in both Mauritania and Algeria with rumors that those behind the attacks traveled through Gambia.
For Several Years the United States has been searching the region to eradicate Al-Qaida. So why is this region so important?
At one point during the Current War in Iraq the Pentagon made a interesting discovery. Almost one third of the Insurgents that were captured were from Western Africa.
The region mentioned above has poorly defined and marked borders. Most of the people native to the region are nomadic in nature and have their own culture. Islam plays a large part of the culture there.
French Intel reports that the terrorists are using 4 wheel drive vehicles to move around as well. The US has been attempting to limit the influence the Islamists in the region by training the Military in Counterterrorism and repairing the Infrastructure of these Impoverished States.
This is Africa... will this be the next Front in the War on Extremism? Or will it be a Proxy War?
Regional Security was a main topic for Discussion at the recent ECOWAS Summit. With Concern about Guniea-Bissau being used to Transship Narcotics from South America to Europe and prior Conflicts in Sierra Leone and Liberia leaving an abundance of Small Arms Available adds up to instability that is waiting to be exploited.
The US Navy has deployed the USS Fort McHenry to be used as a platform to train the Armed Forces of the Region. Whether or not this action or others acts can help the region remain unclear at this time.
Feedback, ideas or requests for articles email me @ confusedeagleusa@yahoo.com
Subject: Jobs! What is being done?
From: Larry
To: All
Date Posted: 00:38:39 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: bullockhl@aol.com
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What is being done to create meaningful and useful jobs for the people in Sierra Leone?
So much of what I'm reading here is disturbing, and I keep thinking that the energies being expressed are out of frustration for the slow progress in the country after a decade of misery.
What programmes are in effect, or being developed? (THE GOVERNMENT HAS DONE A POOR JOB OF COMMUNICATING WHAT THEY"RE DOING, WHAT THEY INTEND TO DO, AND WHAT THEY"VE DONE) What possibilities are there for Public/Private partnerships? How can the people in the diaspora be engaged to support the development of workable solutions inside the country? Is there anybody who wants to "walk the walk" out there, or are you all just mouth? And you APC folks need to get your Government into the conversation with the people on the street!
Agriculture:
Seeds...not hybrids, but open-pollenated varieties, so a person can harvest and save seeds from one season to the next. We need every sort and variety of seeds...they are lightweight, and easy to transport.
Livestock...after the devastation of the past 17 years, the country needs an influx of new livestock...chickens, fowl, goats,cows,what else? You tell me. The Heifer Project is a charity that specializes in transporting livestock wordwide to restore domestic animal populations.
Clean Drinking Water...don't tell me how bad the APC or the SLPP is...tell me how we can organize people to help bring clean drinking water to every man, woman, child in Sierra Leone...then we can go back to arguing about politics...:_)
Pre-Natal Healthcare...every pregnant woman in Sierra Leone should be given special consideration, and multivitamin/multimineral supplements...she is carrying the future of your nation. Show some respect!
Education...The problem of how to eliminate school fees remains on the table...how is it going to be arranged in the next few years, to insure that every child in Sierra Leone receives a quality education up to the university level, without having to pay fees, but based solely upon the basis of merit? This is where a special tax on your mineral resources would be useful...
Public Health and Sanitation...where is the willpower to supply the people, equally, and regardless of tribe or political party, with the basics of human comfort and dignity. Consider this, in lieu of the drivel that readers of this forum have to sort through in search of meaningful conversation.
Let me hasten to apologize to anyone who takes the least offense at my commentary here. However, I am simply trying to be honest. I have held back my true thoughts for months upon end, waiting for some sparks of imagination or creativity on this forum. Instead, I read the same old recriminations, blaming, shaming, insulting, and gutter humor one might encounter on any street in the world. Not a source of uplifting, but a pull toward the dimishment of the spirit. Well, no, thank you.
Sierra Leone deserves better than this. YOU are the people who have access to computers, and have the time to read and post here. That, in itself, says something!
In my opinion, it also carries a civic responsibility upon you toward your fellow citizens. There's an old saying, handed down from a Jewish rabbi, Gamliel: "If not me, then who?, If not now, then, when?"
There are people tonight, sleeping on the ground, under the stars, feeding the mosquitoes all night long. They have no job, little food, no opportunity. These are the people that Jesus called the "least of my brothers." These are the people the Holy Koran instructs you to care for. So. what have we done for them lately? It's not about EBK, or APC, or SLPP...it's about you and me...life is personal like that...I'd love to hear from some of you folks, from whichever party or tribe....to discuss ways to help Sierra Leone. I know we could make a difference, and I know that it won't be through the normal, and formal channels of government, and it won't be a way to make money...this is not about that. The path to freedom and dignity does not tolerate dishonesty and trickery. We must bring an open heart.
"Doc", my friend, Dr. John Karefa-Smart, said a few very kind words about me recently on this forum. He never mentions this, and most people don't know, he was the Assistant Director of the World Health Organization, and has a Master's degree in Public Health from Harvard University. He remains vital and active. I'd like to think that I could form a working group of people who could make a difference, and maybe connect with the good Doctor's network of connections in a non-political way to create a framework for progress, involving the existing instutions, such as the government agencies, along with the NGO's--we don't want to "re-invent the wheel"- the idea is NOT to build institutions, and create bureaucratic jobs, but to achieve results...We can build organizations, and workgroups that make a difference. But not if everyone is fighting all the time. We need more women speaking out on this forum, that's for sure.
Okay, I've said enough for one posting. Take your best shots. Tell me something. Call me out. Also, please tell me if you agree with me that you're tired of the hate-filled, negative postings! We need to get rid of these negative influences... Tell me I'm wrong, or send me an email, and tell me how you think we could build something that would make a difference.
I'd love to hear from you. Cheers, larry
Subject: Re: Jobs! What is being done?
From: Mohamed A. Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 19:52:27 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: Saghinosoccerworld@yahoo.com
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Larry, belive me my brother, there are those of us who would not stop at anything to make a difference in our country. I have been working with my associates on a job creation project (to be preceeded by effective hands-on training), which by god's grace will be up and running in the very near future. It might sound disingenuous, if i told you that my motivation comes not from the aim to be wealthy, but from anger about what happened to the homeland i was born and raised.I grew up in the 70s. Indeed living life there back then was not being in paradise; but one had a sense of hope for a better tomorrow. Today you could see the demeanor of hopelessness, being unsure and the lack of the whole community (village) supervision in many young individuals' lives.Whenever i am down there visiting, i will look at the sad situation of our youth (both sexes), wondering what kind of future they would have if we do not get them prepared to face the challenges of the 21st century; or what legacy they would leave for the generation after theirs, and beyond. What is more troubling is that among them are those who will take over the reigns of leadership. If our generation does not create the beacon through which they can be inspired to carry out such a very important role in society with competence and integrity; what then will happen to us as a people (as a nation)?
Subject: Re: Jobs! What is being done?
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 06:21:50 08/14/08 ()
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Thanks for the positive post. We all know that things are difficult, but that does not mean we should just throw up our arms in despair and resort to warrantless recrimination. Every government has its fair share of criticism. The question is how do we lift the country from the morass? When do we take a short vacation from criticising and begin offering solutions? It is true that most of the solutions we proffer would be ignored or simply hard to finance because of budgetary constraints. That however should not discourage us. I commend you for your effort and hope to enjoy more of your postings in the future.
Subject: Re: Jobs! What is being done?
From: Brabanxx
To: All
Date Posted: 12:57:18 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: brabanxx@aol.com
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It is true that most of the solutions we proffer would be ignored or simply hard to finance because of budgetary constraints....Uman Lappa
Lappa you must have had one too many coors light before posting. What the hell are you thinking bra.
Budget constraints my foot..
Here is your budget!
1.$25Million to Wanza
2.pay out to leather boot
3.Cut down on the travelling and per diem
4.make use of every available government owned buildings intead of paying rent.
Please Uman Lappa do not get me started...
Subject: Larry you sound well read but very shallow minded,. Why?
From: Finda Mattia
To: All
Date Posted: 05:01:41 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: fmattia@yahoo.com
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Its clear from your posts that you are a blind APC fanatic. Thats OK by me. Blaming the current carnage on the opposition however, is not only disingenous,but criminal, and clearly shows the type of Homo sapien your are.
Except you are living in cloud cocooland, you should by now know that your beloved APC (you can deny, if you want to publicly prove my partisan charge), is not interested in any of your above, very intelligent and well meaning suggestions you have proffered.
They are more interested in abuse of power and violating citizens into submission. Say what you may about the lackluster former government, they kept the peace very well during their tenure and freedom of expression was not compromised.
As a smart fella, (or are you?), how would development take place amidst the recent downward spiral we are witnessing in Sierra Leone? In as much I hope and pray everyday for our country to start doing common sense things like those you are suggesting, a reality check tells me this current administration has clearly demonstrated they are not an appropriate conduit for such forward march. State sponsored cocaine traficking, abuse of nolle prosequis, ostensible insecurity, misuse of state funds to pay bogus debts (that could otherwise be used to facilitate your suggested points for eg) and widespread state sponsored violence, to mention a few, are clear obstacles for any neutralist to see. You seem however too blinded to see this.
Instead of pretending that things are OK, why do all decent Sierra Leoneans not protest against this violent and tribalistic regime? Having some preventive scheme for proliferation of violence is sin qua non to implementation of all the forward looking proposals you have made.
However when these proposals are intended to distract people from the ticking time bomb your beloved APC is coupling up, you end up exposing your rear for all to sniff. Some of us true patriots do not like such hyprocrisy one bit and are not interested in sniffing anything cocaine or bottoms. Period.
A good start, my learned brother is for you to unconditionally criticise the 120% increased violence since November 2007 (you can check this with police HQ in Freetown) and join forces in making Sierra stable as in pre-Cocaine APC days.
Who would like to invest in a violence-ridden country? Lets address the first things first, before we go on to dream of the promise land that we all would love. We just have to be a little honest and less partisan. Wishy washy dreams are nice, but addressing realites are even better.
I hope you do not take offence of my plain preaching. Thanks for advocating for female contributions on this forum and have a very nice day.
Subject: Re: Larry you sound well read but very shallow minded,. Why?
From: Larry
To: All
Date Posted: 01:34:48 08/16/08 ()
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Dear Finda Mattia,
In response to your posting about me, I am somewhat surprised that you call me a partisan of the APC. I have just posted a statement bemoaning the slow progress being made by the current (APC) government, after all the troubles the country has been through, given the rebel war, AFRC, and yes, SLPP mismanagement. This current government seems to be extremely weak in the knees, to the point of collapsing in its early days due to mismanagement, lack of forceful leadership and cronyism, and I am saddened by the woeful scenario presently at hand, given that one would expect a new government to be able to bring some energetic new proggrammes to the forefront in the early days of their tenure. How does my critisism of the APC government make me an APC partisan? While it is true that I was a critic of the SLPP during its years of dominance, you must know that I will be critical of whichever party is in control of the government, regarding their failure to deliver benefits to the citizens, men, women and children, both boys and girls. I really am at the point of believing that the future of the country is in the hands of the people themselves, through civil society organisations, and the government should be seen as the obstacle to progress that it has proven itself, thus far, to be.
I despair at the observation that most high-sounding individuals of both parties are usually doing nothing more than angling for a good job for themselves within the government, looking for a piece of the "cheese".
At present, the burden of proof is on the APC to deliver progress to the people.
What I have been calling for, like many others on this forum, is for a cessation of the intra-party sparring, and negative energy projection which is constitutive of so many of the postings on this forum.
Where are the discussions about the establishment of:
1) Job training programs and job creation programs.
2) Building of schools
3) Drinking water development programs for cities, towns, and villages.
4) Campaigns to raise money to provide assistance to the various urgent priorities the people are facing: such as to equip hospitals and clinics with solar power and refrigeration for medicines.
5) Agricultural support programs-coordinating assistance from people who support Sierra Leone in the diaspora, to send seeds, tools, livestock, etc. to SL via the existing framework of NGO's and Paramount Chieftancies.
6) Clinical care and vitamin supplementation for pregnant women.
7) Campaign to eliminate school fees by imposing a new tax on all extractive (Mining and minerals) industries.
8) Public works projects to create jobs,for all people, at whatever ability, and with flexibility to allow for part-time workers.
9) Campaign to enforce public official accountability, and the elimination of bribing at all ports, and government offices.
10) Programs to attract foreign investors to create clean, non-polluting, and profitable jobs---this would mean the non-corrupt development of such things as computer and telephone infrastructure...(Ghana is doing it...Phillipines is doing it...Ireland is doing it...and it works...what is so hard about copying successful models and competing, not to "win", but to get your "fair share " of the business that's out there?)
11)Campaign to develop 250,000 teachers...restore Sierra Leone's position as a center of education and enlightenment.
12) Development of programs to make the country food self-sufficient, and energy self-sufficient.
What's missing, more than any ingredient, including money, is imagination, and right behind that, is faith, and belief in one's self and one's country, and no political party is going to give anyone that---that has to come from individuals who make up their mind, one at a time...
Instead of being angry at the members of the other parties, the anger could be focused on the behaviors that we all could agree need to be changed, and pressure brought upon THIS government to do the right thing.
I hope this illuminates my thinking and position about these matters. Thanks, Larry
Subject: Deja Vu: Can Zimbabwe's opposition learn from Joshua Nkomo
From: Fact
To: All
Date Posted: 21:56:39 08/13/08 ()
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Morgan Tsvangirai,
Tread wisely, trust not Mugabe and continue the struggle.
A revolution is not a bed of roses. A revolution is a struggle to the death
between the future and the past.
- Fidel Castro
Subject: Is King Loggy Taveh Gutu? HELL NO! Check the e-mail!
From: Heat Seeking Missile
To: All
Date Posted: 21:22:22 08/13/08 ()
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Taveh Gutu = Pedro da Centra = Bai Bureh = The Smart Cavalier. Just click on the blue moniker header on his postings and see the Rasta Man.
The APC alagba is really a cool guy off the forum. He is just having too much fun with all those Swedish blondes in Stockholm. Cheers.
Subject: Re: Is King Loggy Taveh Gutu? HELL NO! Check the e-mail!
From: Taveh Gutu
To: All
Date Posted: 00:15:30 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Korthor-Ngor Fen Plaba stop this wild guessing game. Taveh Gutu is a mende while Bai Bureh is Temne. Dunno about The Smart Cavalier and Pedro Da Cintra. The last time Jacob Kanu believed Bai Bureh was also Borboh Pain aka Orkaibah.It is really funny out here.
What if all these guys are using the same email from the same PC to confuse forumites? It is also a fun game.
Subject: Police tear gas protesters in Sierra Leone
From: APC Thugs
To: All
Date Posted: 17:27:29 08/13/08 ()
Email Address:
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Police tear gas protesters in Sierra Leone
© AP
2008-08-13 22:39:13 -
FREETOWN, Sierra Leone (AP) - Police said they fired tear gas Wednesday to disperse a crowd of violent protesters that besieged the offices of Sierra Leone's opposition party.
The protesters _ mostly youths angered by remarks made on the party's radio station criticizing the government _ attacked the headquarters of the Sierra Leone People's Party and tried to force their way into the radio station inside.
Assistant Inspector General of Police Richard Moigbe said he received a distress call from the party early Wednesday morning.
Police fired a volley of tear gas canisters to push the rowdy crowd back from the building, he said.
Several people have been arrested, Moigbe said, adding that the violence had «political connotations.
Details of the remarks that caused the outbreak of violence were not immediately available.
Subject: Re: Police tear gas protesters in Sierra Leone
From: Larry
To: All
Date Posted: 23:37:08 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: bullockhl@aol.com
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Ladies and Gentlemen:
I just read a posting where, if I am correct, there is an indication that this story was copyrighted by the Associated Press, a legitimate, wordlwide press outlet. It reports that the police were dispatched by the APC dominated government, to disperse an angry crowd which was attacking the offices of the oppostion party. This seems like the appropriate and legitimate exercise of police power being administered in a professional and non-political way. What am I missing?
What is it that prevents me from assuming that the follow-on postings are anything other than asinine, juvenile, short-sighted, ignorant, self-sabotaging, destructive, and un-patriotic comments? What is it with you people, and I certainly do not mean all the people, just you foolish individuals who are filled with hatred and who strike before thinking, who are simply and stupidly reflexive? How are your comments helping your country? That's what I'd like to know.
I daresay that during the tenure of previous governments, we would not see the police being dispatched to protect the life and property of the opposition party. This is a first, and a sure sign of progress in the political evolution of the nation. The individuals on this forum who are partisans of the SLPP should take a lesson from this news story. This is an object lesson in how to govern. There may come a time when your party will again hold the reins of power in Sierra Leone. The question, and the challenge will be to see how the new, improved, next generation SLPP rises to the challenge. We must set aside how your party has behaved in the past, and move forward.
It seems to me that the APC and the SLPP are like the Democrats and the Republicans in the USA. The APC are like the Democrats, much less disciplined, and much more democratic, even though that carries strategic risks, politically, and the SLPP are like the Republicans, much more disciplined and unified in carrying one message forward, speaking with a unified voice, which carries its own shortcomings, because it leaves a trail of offended parties by the wayside, ready to come back and dispute your programme.
However, whether you are APC or SLPP, the challenge remains equal: your country needs you and your energy, not to fight with each other, but to struggle for the betterment of your children in the face of the fact that the financial structure of the industrialized world is in crisis, and your country is the target of exploitation by people who do not have your best interests at heart. Your partisan sniping is a form of slow-motion suicide. Whatever deals you make with the outside world, formally, or informally, will impact all your citizens. Now is the time to take a look at the big picture, and put the regional and tribal differences aside for your own good. While you are fighting amongst yourselves, foreign companies, and drug cartels are making plans to eat you alive. For the love of God, wake up!
Subject: Re: Police tear gas protesters in Sierra Leone
From: UPSIDE DOWN
To: All
Date Posted: 11:42:59 08/14/08 ()
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"It seems to me that the APC and the SLPP are like the Democrats and the Republicans in the USA. The APC are like the Democrats, much less disciplined, and much more democratic, even though that carries strategic risks, politically, and the SLPP are like the Republicans, much more disciplined and unified in carrying one message forward, speaking with a unified voice, which carries its own shortcomings, because it leaves a trail of offended parties by the wayside, ready to come back and dispute your programme".
I THINK IT IS THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
Subject: Larry, I hope you are not on drugs - I mean the Coke
From: Charles F Margai
To: All
Date Posted: 05:22:10 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: charles.margai@yahoo.com
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Message:
"police were dispatched by the APC dominated government, to disperse an angry crowd which was attacking the offices of the oppostion party. This seems like the appropriate and legitimate exercise of police power being administered in a professional and non-political way. What am I missing? Larry
Thats the job of civilised police forces the world over. Thats exactly why there were hardly any widespread violence during the SLPP rule. Even a bigot like you is now begining to think that this is not how the police are expected to behave during your Cocaine APC tenure. Well I have news for you big fella... that is precisely what they were reformed by SLPP to do; but alas this Cocaine government is bent down on reversing all that again and here you are unpatriotically praise-singing a very very violent government.
There has been on average, a major politically motivitated attack, every 10 days since this criminal cocaine gang took office. Gloat all you like my friend, time will tell that your wretched assumptions have no place in sierra leone anymore.
Tell me honestly what your drug traficking gof'ment has achieved in 1 year. Please please please... I am waitng.
Subject: Re: Larry, I hope you are not on drugs - I mean the Coke
From: Larry
To: All
Date Posted: 02:00:49 08/16/08 ()
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Charles,
Please man, I'm surprised at your posting..."Even a bigot like you is now begining to think that this is not how the police are expected to behave"...
What do you know about me? If you are THE Charles Margai (anyone can post here, calling themselves any name they want), then perhaps, I know more about you, that you do about me.
I am equally disturbed, along with you, with the recent events in Sierra Leone. This government has, thus far been tragically underwhelming in terms of delivering good governance to the country. But I fail to see how attacking me is legitimate. I come here to read and occasionally post a few thoughts. That's all. Reading more into it than that, on the part of you, or others, is beyond my control.
I understand that the FBI and Scotland Yard agencies are involved in investigating the cocaine traficking matters. Bring your evidence to them. I carry no portfolio for the present government, and I find it interesting that my posting on this forum would elicit such personal attacks. Like you, I only want to see what is best for Sierra Leone, and ALL its people, including members of the SLPP, and individuals of ALL tribal groups, regardless of their political affiliations.
Subject: Re: Police tear gas protesters in Sierra Leone
From: WANZA STORY
To: All
Date Posted: 18:20:04 08/13/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
The remarks were simply the Wanza 75 billion story broken by awareness times. meanwhile, the editor of awareness times was attacked this morning and the publisher has received death threats the whole day for exposing the wanza story.
welcome to APC Part 2
Subject: Re: Police tear gas protesters in Sierra Leone
From: People's power
To: All
Date Posted: 19:54:40 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: codfodnus@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.222.248.64
Message:
That is the kind of treatment you get, when you try to sabotage a government that is loved by the people. S.L.P.P guys are really frustrated for losing power. The Kenema, Bo fracas, let it just be a high-way robbery. I want you guys to know that we do not have any kamajor or R.U.F in Sierra Leone anymore. Your party was in power for the past five years,and no one went to the bush, nor ndogbowusu,no Kendaka, now you have been out of power for just eleven month,and we are now hearing about CUT-TROAT, AMBUSHES, BURNING OF HOUSES around the country. I gurantee you that shortly, the truth will be out. The people of Sierra Leone are not ready to take this kind of nonsense any more, they will go after you if you try. Kei tam mear
Subject: Re: Police tear gas protesters in Sierra Leone
From: Keen Observer
To: All
Date Posted: 04:15:02 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: abukay1@yahoo.com
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"Your party was in power for the past five years,and no one went to the bush, nor ndogbowusu,no Kendaka, now you have been out of power for just eleven month,and we are now hearing about CUT-TROAT, AMBUSHES, BURNING OF HOUSES around the country" People's power
I hope you are not as stupid as you sound. This is clearly an indictment of your Cocaine APC government. It is the job of government to protect its citizens. When that governmtent is violent, useless and incompetent, that is when you witness the downward spiral we are currently seeing in Sierra Leone.
If your bossess are not traficking Cocaine, they are busy unleashiong violence on the nation. This is not going to drive Mama Salone forward. And unpatriotic @$$hol$s like you and larry above applaud violence and believe folks are going to roll over and play dead, because of thuggery. You are day dreaming.
The police were keeping the peace during the last five years of the SLPP and no such widespread anarchy was ever dreamt of. Cocaine APC have now unleashed its thugs on the nation again, and you idiots are clapping and blaming everyone else but your selves.
National curse is something that will affect even your dependants and just watch how most of those sponsoring the violence will end.
Viva Salone!
Subject: Re: Police tear gas protesters in Sierra Leone
From: two brains
To: All
Date Posted: 05:14:28 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: twobrains@yahoo.com
Entered From: 82-45-255-9.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.45.255.9
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You weakened your argument when you alluded the cocain traficking to APC alone. Because, if you are serious about cutting out this problem, you should also talk about the SLPP cocain traficking.
Let me remind you with the fact. The British custom officials discovered SLPP government diplomatic luggage bound to the London Embassy full of cocian wrapped in tapes.
Because of diplomatic protocol, which prohibits searching of diplomatic luggages, the British obtained permission from Kabba to open it.
No further action was taken because the issue was surrounded with diplomatic implication.
My gut feeling was that Kabba co-opereated with the Brits in return for no further investigation.
Stop throwing stones at other glass houses when you also have glass house.
Subject: Lets be honest EBK is totally useless
From: Decent APC Supporter
To: All
Date Posted: 17:49:09 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: abukay1@yahoo.com
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Who is in charge of Sierra Leone? Certainly not EBK. Whats his own ToR then?
Sleeping with juveniles?
Subject: Re: Lets be honest EBK is totally useless
From: task force
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Date Posted: 02:53:23 08/14/08 ()
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Message:
Just give us your name and address
Subject: Re: Lets be honest EBK is totally useless
From: Tamba Moiwo
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Date Posted: 04:01:28 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: moiwo@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: gateway-303.energis.gsi.gov.uk at 62.25.109.196
Message:
So you can go loot and brutalise,APC style? Sikdour ba--O'phiramuras.
Subject: Re: Lets be honest EBK is totally useless
From: Uman Lappa
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Date Posted: 07:37:50 08/14/08 ()
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Tamba, taye keh tay roos meh (For those who do not speak Temne, it means "Stop the rudeness").
I am having a field day enjoying the self-congratulatory stance of SLPP supporters. They are sanctimoniously acting as if Salone was pouring forth with milk and honey during Kabba's SLPP Suffercracy. All the present ills of the APC government were also there during the SLPP regime. There are anecdotal accounts of that misrule everywhere.
That still does not excuse our government's horrific first year. The president still has enough time to change course and focus on ethics, infrastructure, jobs and unity. The criminally incompetent singing birds in his inner circle have to go.
Subject: Re: Lets be honest EBK is totally useless
From: ColoVenezuelan
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Date Posted: 18:38:45 08/14/08 ()
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Does he really have that much time? considering that the Columbians and Venezuelans will be going after him and his caboodle real soon. And you know the reason why.
Subject: Re: Lets be honest EBK is totally useless
From: SALIFU PAPAH
To: All
Date Posted: 17:56:37 08/13/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 83.229.112.21
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I WISH YOU WERE REFERING THAT TO YOUR FATHER, THAT WILL MAKE FEEL BAD. AHH AHH AHH,
Subject: Re: Lets be honest EBK is totally useless
From: APC Thug
To: All
Date Posted: 20:30:08 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: BushmanPapah@yahoo.com
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Salifu, as the name sounds and connotes, is primitive, vile,uncouth and was brought-up and raised in a house,not a home. This kam puk will never engage in any discussion without 'cussin' at somebody's parentage as long as you are saying something he does not want to hear. It's a mistake that you find yourself in this part of the world-thanks to AKK who just shipped some of you out here to 'go try'.It would have been better for you to have stayed in your "fakai" where rudeness and disrespect for your parents is acceptable. No wonder your name is Salifu like in farting rudeness at all times.U nor fit among sober people en try for go school so that u go know wetin dem call respect,tupit.
Subject: Re: Lets be honest EBK is totally useless
From: SALIFU PAPAH
To: All
Date Posted: 07:53:13 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: sabbok2003@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 83.229.112.21
Message:
Ahh Ahh Ahh,why do you put your self to my position? you must be crazy, this is the syndrom i have noticed on many of you so called loyalist to the SLPP party,I was saying that to my friend the last time i saw Patrick foyah,erything has change in his out put,(thorgboi>you will never stop tribalism,) it is also very funny when you are saying things about me and you donot even know me "what a stupid creature is this person?" You are always talking about education and civilisation, this again is another sad concept in africans especially you so called slpp supporters what do you think education and ciilization means? too much of these concept is putting you down the drain.I will like you to atleast look at the other side of the coin and make better decission before you get late(who is bill gate? a master degree holder? why are people so short sighted?) but any way I wish you will posses all what i know, you can never believe the world will end.
"IDIOT LECTURER"
Subject: Salfu Papah you should take4th grade English Lessons
From: Bulldozer
To: All
Date Posted: 11:11:53 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: bulldozzer@yahoo.com
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Why must you expose your crass upbringing in public like this? You cannot even write constructively. Gates is very smart fellow and you are clearly a very dumb poopoo.
Half-baked idiots like you only wish ill for our beloved nation, and thats why its ol' folks nursing homes you will rot cleaning people's behind.
I am personnally going to attending to you now - to ensure I clean you up and make you a bit civilised. So far, your popsie EBK has provento be one of the most useless Presidents on the continent, and its only clowns like you that think he has done well. Traficking cocaine and all that. Yu feel say nar yu foolish papa getsalone ehn?
Subject: Re: Salfu Papah you should take4th grade English Lessons
From: SALIFU PAPAH
To: All
Date Posted: 20:33:17 08/15/08 ()
Email Address: sabbok2003@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 83.229.112.21
Message:
YOU ARE NOT SERIOUS..........LOOK HOW YOU EVEN SPELL MY NAME.I WONDER HOW SOME OF YOU ARE ACTUALLY THINKING, YOU ARE ALWAYS BEEN FOOLED ABOUT EDUCATION AND ENGLISH. WHAT A BLACK MAN CAN TELL ANOTHER BLACK MAN ABOUT EDUCATION AND ENGLISH? THIS REALY FUNNY, IF I DISCUSS THIS WITH MY CANADIAN AND ENGLISH FREINDS,THEY WILL HELP ME LAUGH AT YOU. OH MY GOD SAVE THIS CONTINENT AND ITS PEOPLE,ANY WAY I CANOT LET YOU KNOW MY PERSONAL BACKGROUND BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT INLINE WITH CURRENT STANDARD, YOU MIGHT BE A BIT OLDER AND THUS THINK LIKE A SOOTH SAYER.
CHEERS
Subject: Re: Salfu Papah you should take4th grade English Lessons
From: SALIFU PAPAH
To: All
Date Posted: 20:12:20 08/15/08 ()
Email Address:
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i wonder if you are realising that you are pointing fingers on your father ah ah ah ah........, you are now begining to come under my foot. come on poppy stop abusing our belove president, he is ontop of you now and will for ten more years,where were you when he was elected? why don't you stand as one of the aspirants in the presidential and parliamentary elections? that shows that you are not competent.so stop the crazy hatred for our belove king, that all i have to tell as a patriotic Sierra leone.
Subject: Re: Lets be honest EBK is totally useless
From: Theo
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Date Posted: 06:41:26 08/14/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
So salifu is not a civilised?and what your name please mr.sign of inferiority complex city boy,come on.
Subject: The 10th Accused in the Cocaine Scandal
From: Salone Blogger
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Date Posted: 16:40:37 08/13/08 ()
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BY Vickie Remoe-Doherty
The 10th Accused in the Cocaine Scandal: Bo na Lie Bo Ahmed Noh Go Mix Pan dat
I met Ahmed Sesay last year at Cafe De La Rose. We didn’t really meet per se but we both went there everyday for lunch separately until one day we were actually introduced. After the introduction we would exchange hellos and goodbyes whenever we happened to be lunching at the same time.
When I stopped going to Cafe I would bump into Ahmed at Chez Nous in the evenings. He seemed to me more quiet and sensible than the regular Wise Guys. One day I met him sitting at the Bar and i sat next to him while i waited for my spring rolls and sweet and sour soup. Like most conversations during that period we talked about politics. He was an APC supporter and from the way he responded to my skepticism I could tell that he wasn’t just a supporter rather…he was deep in it. I told him that while I was certain that the Sierra Leonean people needed a change, I wasn’t sure the APC was going to take us where we needed to go. Eventually realizing that I wasn’t going to change my position he said that the party is looking forward to changing minds and showing us that they meant well. I ate my food and we changed the topic.
While we were still at the bar 3 buffoon looking ohlangba’s showed up to speak to Ahmed about something that had happened but between their temne and krio I could barely understand what was being said. All I remember is that they were bragging about having taught someone a lesson. Ahmed’s phone which rang non stop kept on ringing. Finally he answered a call…he left me at the bar off to a “strategizing meeting” with Cheri Coco, a lawyer who then was running for MP (he won). As the weeks rolled by Ahmed and I exchanged more hellos whenever we came across each other and I must confess I respected him. He always looked very well put together with his crisp button downs and slacks.
When the APC finally did win the election Ahmed was in the very very inner circles of those very first weeks. He was part of the presidential contingent at the airport on inauguration day that welcomed and ushered presidents into the country. And during that period a wise civil servant referring to Ahmed called him “one of the King makers” in the party. His opinions highly regarded by the power that be. When the president announced his cabinet, Ahmed’s half brother other times referred to as his cousin Kemoh Sesay was appointed as the Minister of Transport & Aviation. Soon after his nomination like several other ministers like him Kemoh was frequently out of the country “trying to bring investors in the country”. Once he went to North Africa and there were speculations in the paper that he had built a brand new house only several months into his appointment as minister. I remember Ahmed mentioning that they were sued the journalist who wrote the article. Kemoh hadn’t built a new house but I presume finishing it was much faster than it otherwise would have been if he hadn’t been minister.
One day in December a friend and I happened to be lunching at Café De La Rose after some weeks of absence. Fortunately Ahmed was there as well and we sat together. It was his birthday he said and we were happy to celebrate with him over lunch. He told us he was soon to head back to the UK to see his family. During the conversation however I had mentioned that my digital camera had broken, the random chit chat of how I need to get out of sierra leone to buy certain things. I didn’t see Ahmed again until after the holiday season. When I did see him, he had a gift for me…a digital camera. A small gesture that went a long way with me because it had all been done so casually. I thought….hmmm…how thoughtful of him, this Ahmed he’s nice oh…
As we became better friends and actually made plans to have lunch on a regular basis, I asked Ahmed what kind of business he was in. One time he said that he was in real estate in the UK, buying and selling property ( a line that I’ve heard several times from many guys in town from the UK) however, that he had formed a company with some investors and they were going to get into mining. He said he was in town doing the surveys and research etc…until they got their license etc. It all made a lot of sense to me then and I did not question his legitimacy.
I saw Ahmed many many times after and when I thought of my close friends in Sierra Leone he was certainly included. He was a confidant, someone I spoke to often, usually over food. We even talked about going on diets together etc. I was invited to his house for dinner with another friend and I was there again another time witnessing the construction of a second property in the compound. Ahmed said he had to expand because his business partners and his family could not share the same house. As you may know, the Sesay’s are a big family.
In April, I invite Ahmed to my grandmother’s 70th birthday celebration. He came and we sat about keeping company for a while until he left and as usual questions are asked and it happens that Ahmed and I are related by marriage.
I was told that my great grandmother married Ahmed’s father so that she could make the pilgrimage to Mecca. She had already passed childbearing age at the time of their marriage but she and Ahmed’s father who my granny described as a dark skinned Imam spent several years together before Ahmed’s dad passes. He was killed by an infection from his pet cat who scratched him one day when he accidentally laid on it. Anyway, I told Ahmed the story and we had a running joke that he was my grandfather
Early in the year FIFA banned the national stadium and I had mentioned that in a previous post. By then Ahmed had been appointed as the manager of the national football team; Leone Stars. When GoSL decided to renovate the stadium, it was Ahmed who got the contract. It seemed like a conflict of interest to me but then that is how political lobbying works, the party in power has to be loyal. Same in the US with campaign financing & contributions same in Salone with party supporters and GoSL contracts.
Ahmed was incredibly stressed during the period of the stadium’s renovation. He confessed that he was afraid they might not meet the deadline for FIFA re-inspection. So I saw less and less of him as he worked hard to implement on time. But by the time FIFA did come to town, the stadium was deemed up to par and opened for international matches.
When I asked Ahmed about being Leone Stars team manager he said that he had promised His Excellency my favorite president Earnest Bai that he would make sure that the team qualified for the World Cup & 2010 Nations Cup in Angola. We talked about the teams limitations with funds. To raise money for the team, Ahmed had a fund raiser at State House with major corporate bodies invited to pledge support for the team. I heard that total pledged was about $200,000 (le 600,000,000). I am not sure if they were able to get all the money but that is what was pledged.
The last time I saw Ahmed before he was arrested and implicated in the Cocaine saga was the finals for the EURO 2008 at Chez Nous. When the game was over a couple of us including Ahmed sat at a table and talked a bit. Ahmed said he was going to London to see his family the next day.
Two weeks later, I’m at the shop and someone tells me that my friend, confidant, lunch buddy, Leone Star team manager, Kemoh Sesay’s brother and among other things personal assistant to Vice President Sam Sumana was being held in relation to the Cocaine bust at Lungi. When I heard I sat down. I was in shock that Ahmed, this dapper extra clean fresh to death friend of mine was actually at Pa Demba Road. But never once did I think “bo na lie bo Ahmed no go mix pan dat” I was not surprised that he was implicated because this is Sierra Leone and wealth is unaccounted for. You declare what u want if u bother to pay income tax. All I knew for sure about Ahmed was the he was a close friend and I respected him. I didn’t know what he did for a living or how he managed to have several very beautiful cars.
I will not get into the details of the cocaine story or what happened or how it happened because there are enough speculations in the local and international press to that effect.
Last week Kemoh Sesay was asked to resign and Ahmed is being held in Murraytown. If you pass by you will see the remaining of the Sesay brothers outside of the prison.
Also implicated in the Cocaine saga was a fellow named GKI who’s building a massive rubbish of a structure that’s supposed to be a hotel across from Bunker at the beach. He had a couple of very expensive cars as well and he’s left the country.
If the government wants to find possible drug traffickers and money launderers in the future two indicators would be OWNERSHIP OF A FLEET BRAND NEW CARS & CONSTRUCTION/PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT.
And the government especially my president should be very careful with these young men who tend to have all the answers and an unlimited amount of financial resources to contribute to campaign efforts or connections with potential investors. Because one could easily speculate that if Ahmed Sesay is found guilty, then the President’s campaign to which Ahmed contributed money was partially funded by his drug money. Also if Ahmed is found guilty, that may mean that the potential “investors” that Ahmed introduced to the president and the vice president could also be involved in the same drug trafficking business and they have been given full and complete access to the highest powers in the land. If Ahmed is found guilty then we might also be able to speculate that Drug Lords do not leave 600kgs of cocaine to land in the “poorest” country in the world if they do not feel that they have assurance in very high places. This then might implicate Ahmed’s brother Kemoh the minister of transport and aviation who has since been asked to resign and was taken in for questioning. If Ahmed is found guilt speculations could get worse and implicate those in positions higher than the minister.
Like most things that happen in Sierra Leone, the Cocaine saga has turned into a big joke but we’ve moved on. After all the Global is killin us with high prices and slow cash flow
Subject: Re: The 10th Accused in the Cocaine Scandal
From: All Power from Cocaine
To: All
Date Posted: 11:52:02 08/14/08 ()
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Message:
Lorda Mercy. COCAINE-CRACY!
Subject: Re: The 10th Accused in the Cocaine Scandal
From: Bangso
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Date Posted: 08:15:21 08/14/08 ()
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Message:
A refreshing read!! Better than the botto batta some people post on this forum.
Subject: Re: The 10th Accused in the Cocaine Scandal
From: Orwai Ococaine
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Date Posted: 19:22:20 08/13/08 ()
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Orwai Ococaine. the APC is all over this cocaine mess. Ernest is a disgrace. hey cocaine congress.
Subject: Re: The 10th Accused in the Cocaine Scandal
From: lorenzo
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Date Posted: 19:11:48 08/13/08 ()
Email Address:
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vicky's comment about ahmed sesay leaves no doubt that she was dating this guy. Ahmed has slept with most of the beautiful girls in the city and vicky is no exception. i think you ought to no better that these guys were criminals.Ahmed sesay has never run a successful business in sierra leone, yet he has all the best cars in the city claiming to be a business man.
Subject: If EBK used Cocaine Money to campaign, then insha allah....
From: Imam Bashiru Sheriff
To: All
Date Posted: 18:22:47 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: BSherrif2006@yahoo.com
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God go make ee gbekinyekeh lek SI Koroma and others. Salone nor to playgron. We will start fasting for all those cocaine conspirators who have brought shame to our country; May God revenge on our behalf and land the worst disgrace one could ever imagine.
Subject: Ignoring the political fracas?
From: AWOKO
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Date Posted: 15:45:37 08/13/08 ()
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AWOKO
Ignoring the political fracas?
Kelvin Lewis
It is most times said Sierra Leone sees more violence when it is election time whilst some strongly hold the politicians responsible for some of the violence.
Those who have seen several elections in the country cannot easily identify one devoid of violence either pre or post.
Even before the political whistle was blown for the 2007 Presidential and Parliamentary elections, there were reports of violence and intimidation almost across the country. One significant incidence was that between former Vice President Solomon Berewa and presidential candidate for the SLPP and the presidential candidate for the PMDC, Charles Francis Margai in Bo. They had gone to Bo to grace their alma-
mater –Christ The King’s College annual meet (CKC).
That incident was definitely a political trail blazer in the South and we saw it up to the Tom Nyuma, Leatherboot saga unto Monday’s stone throwing.
This political violence seems to be segmented and no serious action is being taken against the culprits. It is clear that the politicians should be blamed for some of the unnecessary violence as they drug and set the youths against each other.
Former President Kabbah tried to discourage the pre- election violence that was occurring and when it became apparent that it was moving the wrong way, he threatened a state of emergency whose effects would have been devastating on the political climate. The unrest that ensued when the results were announced
since September 17 is still continuing. The SLPP is claiming that they have been persistently coming under attacks from the APC/PMDC alliance and Government is not doing anything to arrest the situation. With all fairness, the SLPP does not need to re-explain the series of attacks against them since the election results were announced. The attack was first done in Freetown on broad day light when the SLPP head office was attacked, looted and damaged- that was reciprocated in Bo as well as in the North where the houses of their supporters were not only burnt but the supporters driven out of the town. In Kono, the consequent results speak for themselves.
These are serious political issues whose effect has a debilitating consequence on the socio- politico structures in the country. I have still not heard the affirmative warning from the authorities discouraging their supporters indulging in violence. We heard what the youths in Kono did for the san-san mining and other things done on some mining companies.
Dr Sama Banya( Puawi) is always asking why is it that any time the APC/PMDC are on their political business, they do so undisturbed but whenever the SLPP is out, you will hear of violence. Dr Banya’s question should be taken in to consideration as the question begs for right thinking answers. When the SLPP rallied with their mayoral candidate, they faced stumbling blocks on their way from Kissy road unto Sani Abacha street. Their rally was almost disrupted. Also when they rallied in Kono, Bo and in other places, there was some stone throwing but the APC/PMDC did theirs, and it was done undisturbed. Imagine where the fault lies and how to stop it.
You might have heard about another Bo incidence last Monday where the city was thrown in to pandemonium and last Tuesday in Tongo, where a political clash between APC and SLPP left several wounded. These incidences should be a worrying one for the President no matter under what circumstance but what infact I was expecting from the President was to have first tried to unify the country rather than drawing a line- albeit the cabinet and other appointments.
That might be one reason for seeing all these violence at a time we should be thinking of how to tackle the global crisis and other mal-administration. But it is still not yet late as there are several ways of unifying small Sierra Leone. The President mentioned that when he was running for the presidency that because of the voting pattern and the violence, he shall form his cabinet broadly to heal the wounds. Did that happen? You check.
The political scientists are always cautious when they speak of political annihilation and its effects on a country. The President should be advised on this issue nationalistically and not on partisan basis. Those who have lived long in this country remember well how political suppression did not only affect the country but it became a factor in the rebel war. Sierra Leone should not only be known for conducting elections, but should be known for upholding one of the principal tenets of democracy- which is political tolerance.
Can we retrospect how political violence and intimidation divided the country, and how it degenerated to tribalism and nepotism? Can we also retrospect how similarly such factors are destroying other African countries like Congo, Rwanda, Sudan, Somalia, Kenya and Zimbabwe to name but a few? If we could, then each of us should start advising ourselves or else?
Subject: Cocorioko Front Page:: Ignoring the political fracas?
From: British Diplomat
To: All
Date Posted: 16:16:51 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: andrea@difidsl.org
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One wonders which country the Reverend and his team report on. Theirs is strictly simple and raw propaganda with headlines seemingly ingoring our country's woes:
EBK wins Badmington tourney, Obai opens bridge... First visits family members in Kono... EBK dis EBK dat..
Let us be honest forumites, is this responsible journalism? God dae ooh!
Subject: Re: Cocorioko Front Page:: Ignoring the political fracas?
From: JUNK-NALISM
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Date Posted: 11:59:47 08/14/08 ()
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Message:
In all fairness COCORIOKO has never claimed to be an impartial paper. COCORIOKO is to the APC as FOX NEWS is to the GOP.
Subject: Re: Cocorioko Front Page:: Ignoring the political fracas?
From: How Dare You
To: All
Date Posted: 17:26:13 08/14/08 ()
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please don't insult FOX NEWS !
Subject: Big Trouble in Tongo
From: APC THUGS
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Date Posted: 15:38:04 08/13/08 ()
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AWOKO
Big Trouble in Tongo
Kelvin Lewis
Reports from the diamondiferous town of Tongo field in the Lower Bambara chiefdom in the Kenema district states that commercial activities came to a halt on Monday afternoon when supporters of the ruling APC party went berserk.
The whole incident started when two youths commonly called Jakobi and Wahab alleged to be supporters of the opposition SLPP entered Tongo field. The supporters of the ruling APC party who saw them in Tongo field are alleged to have vowed to kill the two youths because they were accused of uttering words against them and their APC party during the past elections.
The APC youths reportedly chased them and the two youths ran into a Police officers house to seek safety. The pursuing youths did not stop, but pounced on the police officer wounding him and vandalizing his property, but the two youths were fortunate to be in police protection.
It was alleged that the youths then attacked the police station to get hold of the two youths and this development gave cause to the police to fire a few shots of live bullets in the air and also fired tear gas canisters to disperse the angry youths who were hosted at the APC office near the police station.
At the time of the attack on the police there was only a small unit of police personnel on the ground, this then resulted in the imposition of a dusk to dawn curfew in the town while reinforcement of police personnel were then dispatched from Kenema to Tongo.
The Paramount Chief of Malegohun Chiefdom in the Kenema district Madam Salay Satta Gendemeh while on the way to her chiefdom from Kenema had to request for police protection in Tongo field before she was able to pass through Tongo field to go to her chiefdom. The police personnel who were escorting her vehicle Mitsubishi ACZ 620 had to fire warning shots in the air as they went through the main streets.
This is the third clash in two months time between supporters of the ruling APC party and the opposition SLPP in Tongo field. Tongo field was the hottest spot during the past local council elections as supporters of the ruling APC party, Peoples Movement for Democratic Change (PMDC) and the opposition SLPP clashed with each other.
According to the reporter of Radio Nongowa in Kenema city Sedie Yayah alias D.J.Snow who was on the ground and was linked live from Tongo field for situation report he told listeners that there has been a lot of destruction in the township caused by the youths. He stated that when he went to the SLPP party office near the main lorry park the place was closed and there was nobody to talk to but when he visited the APC office opposite the police station he met a group of youths at the office some having potato leaves as protection against the tear gas, - they then claimed to be there to protect their office alleging that the police were sending tear gas at them.
Subject: Highway Robbery threatens Bo/Kenema road
From: AWOKO
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Date Posted: 15:34:27 08/13/08 ()
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AWOKO
Highway Robbery threatens Bo/Kenema road
Kelvin Lewis
Police personnel in Kenema spent a sleepless night last Monday on the Bo-Kenema highway as they tried to protect life and property of the citizens of this nation.
According to the Regional crime officer Samuel Sanie Sesay, around 3am a fish truck coming from Freetown met a barricade of wood sticks on the Bo-Kenema highway at a place called Ngelehun which is about two miles from Blama in the Small Bo chiefdom in the Kenema district. This may have been done to force the vehicle to stop so that the armed robbers can now plunder it. These types of road blocks were more common during the days of the rebel war.
Crime Officer Sesay said the truck had to drive through and bulldozed down the barricade. When they came to Blama they informed the police about the incident. The police in Blama immediately al3rted the police headquarters in Kenema who then stopped all vehicles plying the road to and from Kenema for the rest of the night.
Vehicle use to ply the highway through out on a twenty four hours basis, but the AIG east Elizabeth Turay said she will be ready to engage the armed robbers and therefore called on the public to provide the police with vital information for the benefit of all in the country.
Now meetings are going on with stakeholders in Kenema city as a way of combating the ugly situation. A week ago a motorbike rider Mohamed Konneh from Bo town was slaughtered at Bayama junction on the same highway and the assailants burnt down the motor bike.
Subject: Re: Highway Robbery threatens Bo/Kenema road
From: Saidu Tengbeh
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Date Posted: 17:32:43 08/13/08 ()
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Awareness Times is one of the best newspapers in Sierra Leone. I live in Freetown. Those people attacking that newspaper on this forum are stupid. The reverend is also stupid for allowing these attacks to last.
Subject: Wansa vs 19 Local Councils in Sierra Leone
From: Councillor Alimamy Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 15:24:23 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: alituray2004@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
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EBK's inability to control crooked elements in his gof'ment have started having a very negative impact on the country's development. He has reduced allocat1ons to local councils nationwide to raise revenues to pay Wansa, the Lebanese Shylock.
President Ernest Bai Koroma has disbursed only Le.33 billion ($11 Million - about 25% less than previous allocat1ons). Given that this reduced allocat1on is to facilitate the operations of the Local Councils (nationwide) for 48 months (four good years), the President has shocked even his Minister of Local Government by urging the Ministry of Finance to speed up payments for Wansa'a whooping Le 75 Billion ($25 Million).
Patriots around the country are gobsmacked at this cold blooded wickedness of the HE Bai Koroma's actions. Even the Bombali Local Council Chairman has openly questioned Ernest's decision on Radio Maria. How can one man alone get more than double what 19 local Councils nationwide get for four good years. Is Wansa alone better than 4 Million + Sierra Leoneans? This is simply treacherous, said a World Bank Decentralisation expert. Local Council leaders (particularly those re-elected, are urging the President to reconsider such lopsided arrangement and show some respect for his fellow citizens, most especially the poor who realy on social services provided by the Local Councils.
Is this what our Prsident meant by "I'll run Sierra Leone lkike a bussiness"?
Subject: Re: Wansa vs 19 Local Councils in Sierra Leone
From: Former APC Man
To: All
Date Posted: 16:21:55 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: abukay1@yahoo.com
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I am ashamed to be APC. Thank I was never a registered member, Politics really sucks. What a wasye of time. EBK remember you will be out of power someday - you'll have to then meet with the people face to face. What will you tell them?
Subject: EVEN THE PRO-APC AFRICAN CHAMPION HAD SAME LEAD STORY
From: CURIOUS CAT
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Date Posted: 14:52:37 08/13/08 ()
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DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE ARE ATTACKING THE AWARENESS TIMES STORY ON SERIOUS ATTACK ON POOR VILLAGERS UP THE NORTH AND HIGHWAY ROBBERY DOWN SOUTH.
THE TRUTH IS THAT EVEN THE WELL KNOWN PRO APC AFRICAN CHAMPION NEWSPAPER OWNED BY APC DEPUTY MINISTER OF INFORMATION HAD THE SAME HEADLINE YESTERDAY ADVISING THE GOVERNMENT NOT TO UNDERESTIMATE THE THREAT.
SO, WHAT'S THE BEEF? LET US WAIT LIKE JOSEPH MOMOH UNTIL THE ATTACKS TURN TO A FULL FLEDGED REBEL WAR?
Subject: Re: EVEN THE PRO-APC AFRICAN CHAMPION HAD SAME LEAD STORY
From: sarrkom
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Date Posted: 15:09:10 08/13/08 ()
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As Bai Bureh told the Brits "de war don don" We are not going to war anymore.
Subject: Post-Colonial Mentality Vs GLOBAL CHANGE
From: Almamy Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 12:36:12 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
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* Gone are those days when Sierra Leoneans were divided into two distinct categories (Protectorate Citizens/Native Africans and Colony Citizens/Freed Africans)
* Gone are those days when Sierra Leonean changed their names to qualify for opportunities
* Gone are those days when many Sierra Leoneans traveled very long distance to complete their basic education
* Gone are those days when many Sierra Leoneans were ashamed of being found wanting for corruption
* Gone are those days when many Sierra Leoneans stood up for the truth or justice
* Gone are those days when many Sierra Leonean families/neighbours looked out for each other
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* The World recognizes Sierra Leoneans as one group regardless of those thinking in districts/regions/ethno-linguistic group (one Passport)
* The World expects us to build our democratic institutions (including our political parties)to levels that stand time.
* The World commends Sierra Leoneans for finally reaching peace and accepting the two term-Presidency (political baton-change)
* The World encourages genuine investors to stable nations with a strong economy (instability anywhere in Sierra Leone drives away investors)
* The World respects people who speak many languages therefore the Sierra Leoneans with such skills would less likely promote ethno-linguistic divide
* The World frowns on nations without an effect civil service and communications. The average Sierra Leonean will improve their standard of living/quality of life when confidence is restored in public institutions
Subject: Re: Post-Colonial Mentality Vs GLOBAL CHANGE
From: sarrkom
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Date Posted: 14:22:25 08/13/08 ()
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This sounds very good, but the reality is there are many Sierra Leoneans who still think they are better than others based on where they live, the education they have or just their family connection. But at the end, if Sierra Leone sinks, we will all sink with it. When they rebels came to Freetown, though they did not cross the Congo Cross Bridge, both the educated and uneducated suffered.
Subject: From Freetown With Love
From: Mensa
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Date Posted: 12:09:46 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: nikad5@yahoo.com
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Apart from the burning curiosity that saw me strenuously peeping through the window of the landing plane to verify the presence of the "cocaine plane", or the follow-up newspaper vibes about it, nothing else would remind you of drug debacle. Freetown is full of vibrant optimism. Indeed, electricity has made the city more entertaining and lively.
A point worth mentioning is the expansion of waterloo as an attractive Greater Freetown. If you're dreaming of coming home, get yourself a bit acre of land for a very reasonable price and build a mansion that would later be rented by moviemakers, then take a shot at Waterloo. The greenry is just awesome! There is a frenzy for the extreme west like Funkia and Malama, but a big challenge remains the nastry and destructive "pot holes" roads there that show no sign being repaired since donkey years. Goderich road is an embarrassing disaster right in the heart of the city. Terrible! But with Waterloo, the raod is good and all embracing. Smoth ride awaits you! Cheap land to buy!
Well, the pairs are so understanding if you're interested in having an exotic meal with a partner. Never been any shortage of understanding, only that, this time, the looks and dressing are far more provocative! It's like living in another world!
People are really serious in advancing their lives. Schools and institutions have increased dramatically. Most teachers are creating a situation whereby parents would have to send their children for lessons. Good returns for the teacher, beneficial to the students. Even summer classes have increased astronomically.
Believe it or not, Freetown is cruising! Not been to any of the provinces yet, but sure enough, what I've leaves me cursing the Ministry of Tourism if they can't turn this city to land of tourists!!!
Subject: Re: From Freetown With Love
From: Tolongbo
To: All
Date Posted: 03:54:19 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: soyanka@yahoo.com
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Mensa, there you are finally! Thanks to Allah for safe arrival in the land of the ancestors. I thank you for the realistic reporting about the way things are in our country. Keep us posted.
I would like to seize this opportunity to inform you that we the APC enthusiast and admirers in the Middle East, who have been gathering tumultuous support for the party during the last presidential and parliamentary elections are impatiently waiting to complete the registration process of our already formed branch in Saudi Arabia.
It is good to know that our chairman is current in the UK for studies. He has been coordinating the registration issues. However, we have been frustrated by the news from him that Victor Foh, the party secretary general insisted that the registration of the party branch and its executive should be inclusive. Representatives from various tribes and districts should be in the party! How on earth can such assertion be possible? Does the party secretary know our ethnic representation in the Middle East? Or does he mean that even if other ethnic groups or district members have no desire to join the APC, should be a barrier for our registration? Is this logical? Please help to get a proper verification on the matter. God bless you.
Subject: Re: From Freetown With Love
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:45:11 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-235-239.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.235.239
Message:
Orwadi ay orlangba! So mpo bayk? Kthegbeh kthegbeh ay!
So finally the eagle has landed! Nice to read from you. Great and encouraging post. Keep it coming buddy.
Please holla all Calabatonians out there for me!
I love you all!
Subject: Re: From Freetown With Love
From: KLA
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Date Posted: 12:32:26 08/13/08 ()
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Great post!A day maker, Uplifting!
Enjoy your stay!!
tstm
Subject: Re: From Freetown With Love
From: sarrkom
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Date Posted: 14:29:54 08/13/08 ()
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This is great. I like your positive analysis. We are on our way!!!!!
Subject: Rakama makasi
From: Am proud to be a northern.
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Date Posted: 11:38:54 08/13/08 ()
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Very proud to be a northerner,and happy to be a native from the makari gbanti chifdom,bombali district.Long live people from the north,long live people from sierra leone.May the peace won lasted,peace be to all loving sierra leonean.
Subject: Sulim I know
From: Confusion
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Date Posted: 10:30:23 08/13/08 ()
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Is Sulima in the North or do we have many Sulimas? The only Sulima I know is the one near Liberia border near the moa river.
Subject: NORHTERNERS REGRET NOT HAVE ORIGINATED FROM THE SOUTH &EAST
From: krio boy
To: All
Date Posted: 10:54:07 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: krioboy@yahoo.com
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Northerners even in power are not satisfied.Do they want the southerners and easterners to move out so that they can own both the east and south?
Subject: Re: NORHTERNERS REGRET NOT HAVE ORIGINATED FROM THE SOUTH &EAST
From: confusion
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Date Posted: 01:06:32 08/14/08 ()
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I don't know whether it is an attempt to answer my question or just want to distract my question.
Subject: Re: NORHTERNERS REGRET NOT HAVE ORIGINATED FROM THE SOUTH &EAST
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 12:28:10 08/13/08 ()
Email Address:
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Oh Kini Blema,
Krio Mende boy, you're one of those Mende guys who easily convert to krio the moment you enter Freetown.
Northerners are very decent people who believe in one nation and one people unlike you guys in the South who think the South is an independent enclave of Sierra Leone so should only be made of Mendes.
Subject: EDDY GRANT,I AM BORN LIMBA ANYWAY BUT JUST LIKE SOUTH&EAST
From: krio boy
To: All
Date Posted: 21:59:53 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: krioboy@yahoo.com
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Message:
Becareful and trust me to be Limba
Subject: Re: NORHTERNERS REGRET NOT HAVE ORIGINATED FROM THE SOUTH &EAST
From: Deemdin
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Date Posted: 13:51:36 08/13/08 ()
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Isnt it a shame that a country like ours where Mendes, Temnes, Limbas, etcs, intermarry and live in peace still have some of us who feel one region is better than the other?
Subject: Re: NORHTERNERS REGRET NOT HAVE ORIGINATED FROM THE SOUTH &EAST
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 12:43:25 08/14/08 ()
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You hit the nail on the heads of these miscreants SLPPers.
Subject: Re: Sulim I know
From: Taveh Gutu
To: All
Date Posted: 10:53:47 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Message:
Ask the careless goalkeeper!
Subject: Re: Sulim I know
From: Atouga Junior
To: All
Date Posted: 11:25:09 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: Taveh Gutu@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 96.248.92.101
Message:
I wonder how careless and reckless your's was and still is.What a liberal goal keeper from Gbonkolenken. No wonder you turned out this way- No respect for even your goalkeeper in chief.Bobs, you nar one sweh and alakie bushman way nor get blessing. If you were not taught, please know that "mothers and women are sacrosanct"--pervert.
Subject: Re: Sulim I know
From: Taveh Gutu
To: All
Date Posted: 11:58:55 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-235-239.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.235.239
Message:
Nar way you cham bonga hayd.
Ee hart you die!If you say people are.., what about you?
If you don't want to be referred to as a careless goalkeeper you have to maintain your chastity. You should stop playing away matches.Keep your goal only for one scorer and don't make it a free-for-all.
Subject: REMEMBERING A PAN-AFRICANIST, Dr. NNAMDI AZIKIWE
From: Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas
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Date Posted: 09:59:22 08/13/08 ()
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Zik of Africa: Statesman, Intellectual and Titan of African politics
This tribute-essay by USAfricaonline.com Publisher Chido Nwangwu was first written while he lived in Nigeria in October 1988. It has been updated online, yearly, for the great Dr. Azikiwe's birthday since November 16, 1993 to date, November 16, 2005
Flashback to Monday, January 11, 1960:
The first business session of the Nigerian Senate in Lagos is in progress. It is a full-house impregnated with lofty, patriotic expectations of a new Nigeria. Standing up amid the expectation, Senator Nuhu Bamali said: "I have the honor to propose that Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe do take the chair of this House as the president. I am happy that a man who had spent all his life working for the political emancipation of his people and for the independence of this country should be the first to become the president of this..."
The announcement was welcomed with warm, loud applause. Then, with a dignified presidential bearing, and standing tall beyond six feet, Zik, the spearhead of the struggle for Nigeria's political independence, early apostle of pan-Africanism, continued his upward mobility in Nigeria's political history and arena. Nnamdi Azikiwe 'Zik of Africa', was born on November 16, 1904 at Zungeru, northern Nigeria. He lived as the master of crafty political game-plans. He, like Dr. K.O Mbadiwe, lived as Nigeria's foremost neologist and wordsmith extraordinaire.
Wednesday, October 12, 1988:
In the bowel of the Nsukka hills, a shouting distance from my alma mater, Nigerias first indigenous university, University of Nigeria, is a quiet, but remarkable home, the Onuiyi Haven. I lived briefly, like most first year students at the Zik's flats, whcih was a few minutes walking distance from Azikiwe's Onuiyi Haven. Appropriately, that remarkable stately residence is called Onuiyi. Onuiyi is an Igbo word which ordinarily means the source of a stream.
Indeed, here, a stream of wisdom flows from a sage, the grand master of Nigerian politics; it flows at a finely calibrated tempo and with a disarming subtlety. For many decades, the sages river of wisdom has nourished generations and cultures, academic gurus and village wags, politicos and iron surgeons (soldiers), kings and queens, princes and plebians. In the background, birds chirp away some musical notes. Tree leaves continued to rustle and sway in harmony as if saying "It's another bright day for the Owelle. You're welcome."
About 9:00 a.m., Zik's personal secretary and his trusted aide, Mr. A. Okolo, briefs him about general issues of importance, correspondence, commitments and visitors to the Onuiyi Haven. In almost all public and private ceremonies, he has assisted Dr. Azikiwe.
At 2:48 p.m., Okolo directs this reporter through the second gate. As I walked the staircase with him, thoughts and questions began to form rapidly on my mind like a fresh colony of mushrooms on a beautiful tropical sunrise.
For example, what if Dr. Azikiwe emerged now, what should be the first question? Should I follow my planned interview-plot or apply a flexible, situational tactic and flow with the disposition of the sage?
Although Okolo knew I was coming, I still pondered: Will the titan of African politics grant me just 20 minutes, 10 minutes?
Will he even talk to me? If he did, by any measure in the African continent, it would have been my biggest, most important interview. (Then, I was just in my early twenties serving as Assistant Editor of Platform magazine in Lagos; that's shortly after I left the Nigerian Television Authority as a news and programming presenter).
There were questions I wanted to ask concerning Azikiwe's autobiographical magnum opus he titled, My Odyssey. Remarkably, 25 years after that books release, our brother Gen. Colin Powell's bestseller is similarly titled, My American Journey.
For all serious students of pan-Africanism, African culture and nationalism and United States-Africa-Nigeria relations, Azikiwes books, especially Renascent Africa are vital, a must-read. I read My Odyssey in 1976 at the Bishop Johnson Street residence of my brother, Samson Orji Nwangwu, in Port Harcourt, Rivers State.
No other secular book at the time I was growing up helped define and shape my intellectual destination and outlook better than Azikiwe's autobiography, My Odyssey. Though this lion of Africa's nationalism is dead, many of us await to see if his staff and children will help fulfil the promise and task he set for himself in London as stated in the 1970 preface to My Odyssey.
In it he stated: "In a subsequent volume, I hope to discuss how I founded the African Continental Bank; my entry into the orbit of Nigerian Politics; my participation in the crusade for the freedom of Nigerian; my stewardship as Premier of Eastern Nigeria; the founding of the University of Nigeria; my tenure as Governor-General of the Federation of Nigeria and then President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria."
Azikiwe's colorful and combative entry into the trying times of nationalistic agitation and post-independence partisan politics has been supported and illuminated by his penetrating prolific, and incisive literary power. Azikiwe lived as the better embodiment of Nigeria's and indeed Africa's "philosopher-king" - alongside the likes of Kwame Nkrumah of Ghana and Leopold Senghor of Senegal in the 1960s. Yet, to this day, the followers and foes of the artful Azikiwean political stratagem and craftiness expected Nigeria's most durable political figure still seek to clear a forest of issues obstructing a thorough understanding of events and personalities in the development of Nigeria, especially his relationship with the late nationalists Chief Obafemi Awolowo, Ahmadu Bello and the Zikist Movement.
Contrary to dangerously uninformed, pedestrian revisionism of Nigeria's nationalist struggle by some fellows, that country did not get its independence "on a platter of gold" during Azikiwe's time. For instance, just as recent as Thursday, August 24, 1983 in a widely circulated open-letter to Nigerians, which he titled "History will vindicate the Just," former president Azikiwe reminded the attentive of the struggle to free and build that richly-endowed country of 100 million.
As the grandmaster of Nigeria's politics passed, what manner of governing legacy will those uniformed tin-gods masquerading as leaders and their conniving greedy, gang of buccaneer politicians do in memory of "our father?" The answer, my friends, is blowing in wind.
Regardless, as Nnamdi Azikiwe, principal witness, eminent scholar, key player and insightful chronicler of African and Nigerian history, politics, culture, sociology, arts, enterprise, ethics, journalism and diplomacy passes on (he told anyone who listened that hes not in a hurry to leave this planet), the mans array of accolades and distinctions and a handful of unfulfilled hopes remain a very instructive profile in the world, particularly, within the universe of people of African descent.
I strongly believe that when all the vital indicators and elements of leadership are considered, and a millennial choice worthy of serious consideration and debate is made; a choice which can stand the test of time and serious intellectual assessment, Nnamdi Azikiwe is truly the closest approximation to a philosopher King in Nigeria (like Kwame Nkrumah in Ghana, and Nelson Mandela in South Africa). No other Nigerian is more deserving; and no one has a thread running through the longest duration of the geopolitical history of Nigeria; not within the past 100 years. None. Azikiwe is the one. He did more to bring Nigerians together, with all of its imperfections and inequities.
The Owelle gave Nigerian nationalism an actual, federalistic impetus more than any other Nigerian. He traversed the key events of Nigeria's history more than any other.
Above all his predecessors and contemporaries, his intellect remained lucid like a thousand candles in a poorly lit room.
Although, he compromised on certain issues many would have preferred he stuck to his guns. He left a few decisive battles he could have fought beyond his ideal vision of things. Which leads me to the question: What if Azikiwe had gone beyond the ought-to in his agenda for Nigeria and his place in history, may be that country's present history could have been different. It's just a thought, just a may be. But who am I to raise questions regarding the wisdom of our father, our pathfinder, the navigator, the pacesetter?
Imagine the sad, embarrasing turn, the sad news in November 2005 of the burning of parts of his own home in Onitsha during a violent confrontation between Nigeria's police and the MASSOB are entirely unfortunate and condemnable.
Today November 16, in what could have been his 101st birthday, may I make this toast to our father, the great and unmatched one. Here, to:
The Zik of Africa, master of crafty political game-plans, member of a thousand learned associations, eminent alumnus of Howard, Michigan State, Pennsylvania, and Lincoln Universities, founder of University of Nigeria, Nsukka (my alma mater), father of generations, inimitable wordsmith of euphonious diction and oratorical elegance, poet and politician, statesman and living legend, I thank for illuminating my mind, our collective mind. Even after 101 years, your lineage and works endure. On this your 101st birth date, I rise, again, to propose a toast that in another 101 years to come, that the son of my now 46 months old son Chido Nwangwu II, by His grace, Chido Nwangwu III, will also rise to toast to honor you, Zik of Africa, for the plenitude of roles and assorted inspirations you brought to all of us. They will rise to toast to Zik of Africa, as the man who saw tomorrow. Nna anyi Owelle, nwa Eze Chima, ndeewo!!!
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Chido Nwangwu, a member of the Nnamdi Azikiwe Foundation and analyst on CNN International and the Voice of America, is Founder and Publisher of USAfricaonline.com (first African-owned U.S.-based professional newspaper to be published on the internet), CLASS magazine, The Black Business Journal, BBJonline.com, and in 2006 NigerianBanks.com. Chido traveled with and covered U.S. President Clinton's visit to parts of Africa March-April 2, 1998, and Nigeria in August 2000 and served on Houston Mayor Lee Brown's international business advisory board (Africa). He is the recipient of the 1997 Journalism Excellence and Public Policy awards.
Subject: WILL LIBERIA EVER BE THE SAME? I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT!
From: CHIEF IN EXILE
To: All
Date Posted: 09:45:44 08/13/08 ()
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"----APRIL 14, 1979, increase in the price of rice from $22 per 100 lb. bag of parboiled rice, to $30, led to demonstrations in Monrovia; the government responded with firearms, forty people were killed, many wounded; President Tolbert further responded to the crisis by calling in for foreign troops from neighboring Republic of Guinea to keep the peace.
----APRIL 12, 1980, a group of noncommissioned officers led by:Thomas Quiwonkpa; Thomas Weh-Syen; Master Sergeant Samuel Doe; Harrison Dahn; Harrison Pennue; and Nelson Toe;( According to Thomas Quiwonkpa Nelson Toe was the man who killed President Tolbert and disemboweled him) stormed the Executive Mansion, and assassinated President William Ricahrd Tolbert, seized power, and declared a junta called the "People's Redemption Council," or PRC. Samuel Doe was elected Chairman of the PRC and Head of State of Liberia; Thomas Weh-Syen was elected Vice-Chairman of the PRC; and Thomas Quiwonkpa, became Commanding General of the Armed Forces of Liberia.
Nicholas Podier, a Grebo-Liberian, he became Speaker of the Interim-National Assembly, but was later dismissed and executed on the orders of President Doe; Sergeant Thomas "strongman" Quiwonkpa ", a Gio-Liberian, became Commending General of the Armed Forces of Liberia; Master Sergeant Samuel Doe, a Khran-Liberian, and the most senior noncommission officer, became Head of State; and Sergeant Thomas Weh Syen, a Kru-Liberian, became Deputy Head of State. Samuel Doe's rule lasted from April 12, 1980 to September 10, 1990. All of these men died violently. Thomas Weh Syen, the most radical of the group, was executed on August 14, 1981 for allegedly plotting to kill Doe; Thomas Quiwonkpa was executed, dismembered, and allegedly cannibalized, after he led the putsch of November 12, 1985 against Doe; and Doe himself was executed on September 10, 1990 in the midst of the Liberian-civil war. Doe's arms were reportedly "battered, legs amputated, one eye poked out, and genitals severed." (SOURCE UNKNOWN)
Subject: FOREIGN AFFAIRS:UNITED STATES UNRELIABLE FOREIGN POLICY .
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 09:21:12 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
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Message:
FOREIGN AFFAIRS:
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HOW WASHINGTON’S UNRELIABLE FOREIGN POLICY EXECUTION HAS LEFT THE NATION OF GEORGIA AT THE SHORT END OF THE STICK.
It is common knowledge that Vladimir Putin the paramount leader of Russia does not like the geo political set up where his nation has been relegated to the side line in world events and have always been hitching to do some thing to remind the west that his nation is very much part of the international order and that he will not hesitate the flex its muscle thanks to petrodollars at the disposal of the nation hence the armed conflict with Georgia to drive home that message.
Of course,this is not his first attempt.Readers will recall when he came to the presidence in 2000,he dispatched troops to the region in an effort to assert Russia’s dominance of the region.
This latest action has far reaching ramifications in the conduct of foreign affairs.
Albeit though he is not the president,he nonetheless continues to be the dominant power player behind the scenes and with fiat to set the Kremlin’s military and foreign policy as he sees it fit.
This latest aggression in territorial ambition is a stark reminder of the invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 during the presidency of Jimmy Carter that resulted in the Olympic boycott and no other concrete and meaningful punishment meted out for such naked aggression.
There is a fundamental question to ask as to what has precipitated this latest crisis?
The way I interpret this move is a retaliation for the way all the former republics left the Soviet orbit to join forces with the west and the clamor to be part of Nato,and the US intention to place it missile defence mechanism next door to Russia.In that regard,Mr.Putin has decided finally to clearly draw the battle line in the sand.This action has posed a diplomatic test for both the EU and the USA with no immediate and prudent solution in the offing designed to aid Georgia.
The EU,and Nato are equally divided on this issue because Russia is a supplier of energy to countries such as Germany,France,and Italy and therefore will not be too over bearing on Russia in their criticisms.United States is not in a position to respond militarily even if they want to because of the on going wars in both Iraq,and Afghanistan.Compounding that also is the fact that the presidential election is just few months away and no member of congress will be naïve enough to authorize military action at this point in time considering the fact that was the single most issue that propelled Senator Barack Obama ‘s rise to the top of the Democratic presidential ticket when he made the war in Iraq a central issue for his presidential quest.The UK also in this regard can only resort to threat about Russia’s future in the club of G-7 nations and no military action either.
Georgia invested too much hope in the USA when when it attempted to retake control of its breakaway province of South Ossetia thinking that the US might be able to dispense with logistical support both in military hardware and perhaps manpower also forgetting the quagmire it faces currently with both wars on its plate.Now any chances of joining Nato any time soon is in strategic jeopardy.Fear is not spreading in the rest of Eastern Europe as to Russia’s next move.They see this as a clear warning of the uncertainties looming large.All of these problems further damage and undermine Mr.Bush’s leadership of the free world as most countries see him as a very dangerous leader bent on imposing his will on the rest of the world.This clearly seems to be a return to the cold war in disguise .
As it is currently,no one can predict the limits of this invasion,and my feeling is that the incursion into Georgia demonstrates Putin’s increasing role in setting both the military and foreign policy objectives of Russia in consonance with his vision of Russia’s dominance in the region.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Re: FOREIGN AFFAIRS:UNITED STATES UNRELIABLE FOREIGN POLICY .
From: America is Very Reliable!!!!!
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Date Posted: 15:06:16 08/13/08 ()
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Bush Raises the Heat in Georgia Crisis
Wednesday, Aug. 13, 2008 By MASSIMO CALABRESI President George W. Bush, flanked by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, left, and Defense Secretary Robert Gates, makes a statement on the conflict between Georgia and Russia
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Article ToolsPrintEmailReprintsSphereAddThis RSSYahoo! Buzz President George W. Bush jacked up Washington's response to the crisis in Georgia this morning, declaring "solidarity with the Georgian people" after a series of meetings with intelligence and national security advisers in which reports of continuing movements by Russian forces in the region raised fears that Moscow might still be pursuing military ambitions in the country. The sum effect of Bush's statements was to turn what had been a cautious approach from Washington into an aggressive one, and it raised the possibility of a sharper confrontation with Moscow.
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Bush raised the rhetorical temperature several degrees in his statement. "Russia's ongoing action raised serious questions about its intentions in Georgia and the region," Bush said in a Rose Garden announcement Wednesday. In a veiled threat of isolating Russia from the World Trade Organization, the G-8 and the NATO consultative relationship it has held for more than a decade, Bush said Russia was "putting its aspirations [of international integration] at risk."
More tellingly, Bush announced the first series of tangible steps from the Administration since the crisis began. He said he was dispatching Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to Paris and Tbilisi to show support for French diplomatic efforts and Georgian resistance to the Russian invasion. He also said he was ordering Secretary of Defense Robert Gates to begin air and sea delivery of humanitarian supplies by the U.S. military.
The announcement represents a fairly aggressive, two-pronged response to Russia's failure to comply with the cease-fire it signed. On the one hand, Bush's rhetoric was more one-sided in support of Georgia than it has been, and he indicated that Rice would reinforce that support. In Georgia, he said, Rice "will personally convey America's unwavering support for Georgia's democratic government. On this trip she will continue our efforts to rally the free world in the defense of a free Georgia."
Equally forceful, and potentially more confrontational, is the humanitarian mission. Bush noted that Russian armored vehicles were blocking access to the port city of Poti and that Russia was blowing up Georgian vessels. Bush said Gates would launch a "vigorous and ongoing" humanitarian mission by both air and sea. "In the days ahead we will use U.S. aircraft as well as naval forces to deliver humanitarian and medical supplies," he said.
An attempt by U.S. naval vessels to deliver humanitarian aid to Poti could sharpen Washington's confrontation with Moscow and put the U.S. in the middle of the crisis. It is not clear yet where the U.S. will be delivering the aid, nor whether any Russian naval forces, rather than just Armored Personnel Carriers, are involved in blocking Poti. But the comparison to the Berlin airlift is unavoidable, and both rhetorically and practically the Administration has clearly decided to go in that direction. "We fully expect Russia to keep its word to provide free access to humanitarian assistance and allow any of our assistance to arrive either by military or commercial means by air, land and sea," said White House press secretary Dana Perino.
Bush made the announcement after a morning of "rolling meetings" with national security advisers. These started at 8 a.m. with his daily intelligence briefing, which became a meeting of the National Security Council (NSC). Bush spoke to French President Nicolas Sarkozy at 10 a.m., then made his announcement in the Rose Garden at 11:10 a.m. The plan had been for Rice to announce the humanitarian mission at 10:30 a.m. But Bush and his advisers apparently decided that the President himself needed to deliver a more forceful American response to Russia. "The situation on the ground changed," NSC spokesman Gordon Johndroe said.
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Subject: Re: FOREIGN AFFAIRS:UNITED STATES UNRELIABLE FOREIGN POLICY .
From: sarrkom
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Date Posted: 14:13:31 08/13/08 ()
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I find the title of your discussion very deceptive. The United States is a very reliable ally of Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili and his democratic regime in Georgia. When Mr. Saakashvili asked for some of his troops from Iran to be released so they can help them in the fight against the Russians, the US flew those troops rigt back to Tbilisi. As we speak, President Bush has just ordered humanitarian aid to the people of Georgia.
The real vilian in this conflict is Russia. A failed state that is returning to soviet-era misbehavior, the villian Putin who sent his agents to London to murder a dissident thinks he can supress Georgian democracy, but there is no chance for that. The people of Georgia and the interntional community is not going to allow Russia to anex any of the territory they lost to their stupidty. The United States does not have to engage in war to flex its muscles. Russia depends on the west in general, and America in particular for a lot of stuff, and the US can show Putin that Georgia is an independent, democratic Republic
Subject: Sylvia Blyden is fanning the flames of indiscipline
From: Labo
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Date Posted: 07:02:43 08/13/08 ()
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Ex-junta leader and former head of state, Julius Maada Bio, had openly stated in a panel discussion on FM 98.1 radio "if the opposition All People`s Congress Party (APC) wins the 2007 presidential elections and introduced the same bad governance before it was overthrown by the National Provisional Ruling Council (NPRC) junta in 1992, I will overthrow that government".
Is Sylvia Blyden's news article "As Ernest Approaches One Year...:Rebels Attack North & Highway Robbers in South of Sierra Leone" not fanning the flames of indiscipline and likening the activities of some bandits in the north and on the highways in the south to the insurgence of 17 years ago.
Is this part of the Bio plot to cause mayhem as he had promised before the APC won the elections? Does Sylvia know more than what the rest of us know about these atacks, or are they simply meant to give President Koroma's administration a bad rap.
Subject: Re: Sylvia Blyden is fanning the flames of indiscipline
From: sarrkom
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Date Posted: 09:07:13 08/13/08 ()
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Why are so many people obsessed with what Sylvia Bladen says? In the present political climate in Sierra Leone, so many people even on this forum have said so many careless words. The truth is, the Sierra Leonean people are much stronger now than they used to be. That was why they threw the enept SLPP away from government. The same people will dump the APC away if the party keeps making excuses. No body is afraid anymore. See what happened to Johnny Koroma and his henchmen. So allow Sylvia to write what she wants. The people are ready for the Kemoh Sesays and the like who are ready to destroy our country. And President Koroma should know that if he does not dumb some of his so called advisers, they will lead him in trouble.
Subject: Re: Sylvia Blyden is fanning the flames of indiscipline
From: True Talk
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Date Posted: 13:01:24 08/13/08 ()
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Considering what we went through the Rebel years, no Patriotic Sierra Leone wants to see our country through anther senseless war.
The disturbances in the North and South by no means to be underestimated. Sierra Leonean should from the events of January 6th 1999.That one single day will be remembered as the most violent and brutal day of our civil war.
As a matter of fact, that day should be recognized as a day of atourment for all sierra Leonean not just to reflect, but to use this day each year to send a message that sierra Leonean are smart and can no longer be used to destroy our own country.
We should also continue to pray to keep unproductive elements out of politics.
Rest assured the days of coups in Sierra Leone is over.
Subject: Re: Sylvia Blyden is fanning the flames of indiscipline
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 10:49:31 08/13/08 ()
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Excerpts from the Nuremberg Principles:
PRINCIPLE I
Any person who commits an act which constitutes a crime under international law is responsible therefore and liable to punishment.
PRINCIPLE IV
The fact that a person acted in pursuant to orders from his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him.
PRINCIPLE VI
Crimes against peace, war crimes and crimes against humanity are punishable as crimes under international law.
a. Crimes against peace:
1. Planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances.
2. Participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the acts mentioned under (1).
PRINCIPLE VII
Complicity in the commission of these crimes is itself a crime under international law. For only in the protection of fundamental human rights by international or world law can war between states be averted as the Preamble to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states.
Subject: Re: Sylvia Blyden is fanning the flames of indiscipline
From: sarrkom
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Date Posted: 13:48:36 08/13/08 ()
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This is exactly what is wrong with Sierra Leone. If you think putting Sylvia in prison can silence the opposition, you can forget it. I know much more about international affairs than you think. The best way to treat people like Sylvia who has been the propagandda machine for the SLPP is to ignore her. She is not going to ignite another war in Sierra Leone. She does not have that power. So chill. WE will be fine :)
Subject: Re: Sylvia Blyden is fanning the flames of indiscipline
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 02:26:54 08/14/08 ()
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Just reminding ourselves nothing more and nothing less. You read me wrongly!
Subject: Re: Sylvia Blyden is fanning the flames of indiscipline
From: What is your point?
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Date Posted: 12:16:21 08/13/08 ()
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What is your point buddy?
Subject: Re: Sylvia Blyden is fanning the flames of indiscipline
From: sarrkom
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Date Posted: 14:17:32 08/13/08 ()
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The point is, leave sylvia alone in her stupidity!!!!
Subject: Defence Minister Refuses Major Bangura Sick Leave....Institu
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 05:42:31 08/13/08 ()
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The unproductive Minister of Defence, retired Maj. Alfred Paolo Conteh has once again displayed his inhuman and irresponsible attitude to the plight of one of the country’s war hero Maj. Musa Bangura by refusing the officer sick leave to enable him travel to Accra, Ghana for medical treatment.
Major Bangura who had been ill for eight years now was abandoned by the Ministry of Defence and the Republic of the Sierra Leone Armed Forces {RSLAF} without providing him any form of medical assistance.
His condition recently got deteriorated, which prompted this press, Radio Democracy 98.1FM, Capital Radio, and 96.2 FM to lunch a fund raising campaign to save his life.
Following the public campaign, over Twelve Million Leones was raised on his behalf for medical treatment in Ghana; which now seems impossible as a result of the artificial barrier created by the Minister Mr. Paolo Conteh in denying him sick leave
According to reports, Maj. Bangura should have left for Ghana over the past weekend for medical operation but due to the refusal of the Defence Minister to grant him sick leave, he could not make it. Reports further state that Mr. Conteh denied him his sick leave on the grounds that the officer is under going a court martial on a three- count- charge indictment namely “painting of IMATT Vehicles”, “panting of IMATT Vehicles with the descr1ption exploiters go home”, “painting of IMATT Vehicle aimed at tarnishing the IMATT/RSLAF relationship with Sierra Leone” and until the completion of the trial before he could be allowed to proceed on sick leave, while his health condition continues to deteriorate every passing day.
“This is inhuman” A Colonel in the Armed Forces in Sierra Leone remarked.
The action of the Defence Minister in refusing Maj. Bangura sick leave was received has been received with great shock not only by Maj. Bangura but to a number of Sierra Leone especially those who contributed to save the Major’s life. A senior military officer in sympathy with the Major said that it is a ploy by the Defence Minister to see Major Bangura’s life crumbled. He intimated to this press that recently, Mr. Paolo Conteh granted sick leave to Brigadier Komba Mondeh who suddenly fell sick and even used his personal money for the officer to be flown out of the country.
A corporal at the Ministry Defence went further to explain that ‘Brigadier Mondeh was at home when granted sick leave, and asked why the same facility should not be extended to Maj Bangura?’ This has been the status quo at the Ministry of Defence where junior officers are treated like animals he alleged.
When contacted yesterday on the matter, the minister was unavailable to comment, but a soldier who introduced him self as his personal assistance behaved rudely to this reporter saying that the minister was not ready to talk to the media
Meanwhile the Chief of Defence Staff, Major General Edwin Sam Mboma and his Deputy, Brigadier Alfred Nelson Williams when contacted, both said that they have not problem with granting of sick leave to their suffering comrade. “We are just returning home from our overseas trip” They said
“We cannot say whether the minister’s action is true or not as were not in the country” remarked Major General Sam Mboma.
It would be recalled that the Ministry of Defence refused to make any financial contribution to Major Bangura’s medical situation. Financial contributions were received from the public and two tickets provided by the Lebanese Community.
Subject: Re: Defence Minister Refuses Major Bangura Sick Leave....Ins
From: Taveh Gutu
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Date Posted: 05:51:42 08/13/08 ()
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“We cannot say whether the minister’s action is true or not as were not in the country” remarked Major General Sam Mboma.
This line alone deconstructs your cannibal SLPP bootlicking bogus claims by this article. Oh, what a shame SLPP obsessives!
Subject: King Loggy is the Tribalistic Taveh Gutu
From: Salone CIA
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Date Posted: 05:59:06 08/13/08 ()
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What a shame, loggy man. Why do you hide your true self?
Subject: Re: King Loggy is the Tribalistic Taveh Gutu
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 07:49:25 08/13/08 ()
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SLPP cry-babies continiously attack anyone who fail to write what they want hear. Calling others tribalists because they speak the truth is what these SLPPers are good at.
For examle, when Uman Lappa characterized them in his early emergence, he was labelled the most tribalistic and most unpatriotic of all. But in a bizarre twist by Uman Lappa, he's now being regarded as the most Patriotic of all by these SLPP babies. These guys cannot handle the slightest truth about their party all they want to hear is praise or you'll be called a Tribalist the next day.
Uman Lappa will reappear with another name where he'll circumcise them again and then you'll see what I'm talking about.
Subject: Re: King Loggy is the Tribalistic Taveh Gutu
From: Kamajor
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Date Posted: 09:41:29 08/13/08 ()
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One of these days, when the cry-baby becomes the bully, I hope you will be sitting here making the same noises. It is not too long.
Subject: Re: King Loggy is the Tribalistic Taveh Gutu
From: political
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Date Posted: 10:35:49 08/13/08 ()
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Is it a threats?
Subject: Re: King Loggy is the Tribalistic Taveh Gutu
From: How concern
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Date Posted: 08:46:49 08/13/08 ()
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I am not going to give up on you.Trust me. But it seems as if - wai ar pull one sie you go orda sie wit you rubbish.
Anyway, Eddie, what you should know is that the SLPP is in ACTIVE opposition. The cocaine gang will not be gven a single rest minute. We are watching you guys.
Subject: Re: King Loggy is the Tribalistic Taveh Gutu
From: Taveh Gutu
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Date Posted: 06:18:01 08/13/08 ()
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Paddy zip it up! I am mende while King Loggy is temne or limba! We are not the same person!
Subject: APC ATTACKS SLPP OFFICE IN FREETOWN AGAIN
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 05:35:01 08/13/08 ()
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Enough is Enough... We have seen too much and taken too much. Early this morning at about 7 am, groups of APC THUGS dressed in BLACK attacked the Party HQ.
As usual, the Police was around but did nothing.
THE SLPP SECRETARY GENERAL HAS CALLED AN EMMEERGENCY MEETING AT 11.00 AM.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP OFFICE IN FREETOWN AGAIN
From: Alpha Saidu Bangura
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Date Posted: 22:33:49 08/13/08 ()
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The only things the APC know are thuggery and violence. The party was found by war lords who had nothing good to offer our country.
Some of the war lords who founded the APC are dead but their off-springs and wards are now the leaders in the party therefore we must know that attacks on innocent citizens will never end.
Let us remember that the characteristics of the parents will surely be transcended to thier kids. What it now happening in Freetown clearly shows that president Ernest Koroma has taken us back to the days of Pa Siaki Stevens and Joe Momoh. That was what he promised the country during the campaign.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP OFFICE IN FREETOWN AGAIN
From: Mohamed Serwo Feika
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Date Posted: 02:40:02 08/14/08 ()
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Dear Brothers and Sister,
I want to impress on the minds of the APC that their old fashion way of operating will never be tolerated in a democratic society like Sierra Leone anymore. If they think by constantly rampaging our offices will cow us into submission, its definately an illusion. The democratic institutions will be protected so as to help mother Sierra Leone grow from strength to strength.
The formal President instituted a Special Court so that people that bare the greatest responsibility for Human Right abuses will be held accountable; I deem this as a ploy to stop people from self defence. The simple reason being that this same court are not doing anything to stop a potential calamity that will resort to a bigger blood birth if not stop at this initial stage. I want to remind the present President that most people that participated, endured and died because of the civil conflict have never witness total peace in Sierra Leone for a long period of time. So it is incumbent on him to protect this fragile peace we are having rather than be remembered as the President that reverse the fragile peace to total anarchy in Sierra Leone. Most of us at a tender age witness hard core brutality perpetuated because of policies advance by formal leaders of his party that are not different from what is prevailing today.
My conclusion will be to advice brothers and Sisters that are part and parcel of the APC to properly advice their leadership that such enterprise will not bare fruits for the country rather it will cause havoc in the country which we all purport to dearly love.
Regards,
Mohamed Serwo Feika
E94
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP OFFICE IN FREETOWN AGAIN
From: Confirm
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Date Posted: 10:31:12 08/13/08 ()
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From: "Alpha Sesay"
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I just walked around the SLPP office and can confirm that the area is barricaded by the police.
Restaurants around the SLPP office like Jovana and Cafe De La Rose are also closed. There are huge crowds of people around Lightfoot Boston St, just in front of the First International Bank and Rawdon St, going down to Union Trust Bank. I am told SLPP officials have been meeting with police officers inside the SLPP office.
Fonz
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP OFFICE IN FREETOWN AGAIN
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 06:07:03 08/13/08 ()
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Waite and see what the entire Sierra Leonean population will do to you this time if you start that nasty habit of yours by bringing rebels into the country.
Just hope and pray that the rebel attack in Sulima is a one off thing, if it goes any further than that all of you will be shitting yourselves.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP OFFICE IN FREETOWN AGAIN
From: Plaba Bessie
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Date Posted: 09:39:06 08/13/08 ()
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Guys, this image of our party as a party that uses wanton violence to intimidate opponents has to change. I hope the president makes every effort to institute discipline in the country and get even this violent fringe in the party to change its attitude. This is not good for the reputation of the party. The international community is in Freetown and it is seeing this kind of violence. It is not good for this government especially with all the other scandals.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP OFFICE IN FREETOWN AGAIN
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 12:33:58 08/13/08 ()
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Say the truth about your SLPP's attack on the PMDC in BO, Kenema and Kailahun before you start talking botho batha here.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP OFFICE IN FREETOWN AGAIN
From: political
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Date Posted: 10:21:56 08/13/08 ()
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How naiive are you so quickly? When you hear people like Alieu sesay says something, think first before you take sides. We all know Alieu and a bunch of others are here to forment deception. They think that tactics will work in today's sierra leone. So please don't pretend not to be one of them.
On the issue of rebel attack in the North and Armed robbers in the south, I am praying it is just isolated incidents. But if it happen to be another ploy by the slpp to distract and descend this country into another war, they will ever remain to regret it. We cannot afford another war in this already torned country.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP OFFICE IN FREETOWN AGAIN
From: How concern
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Date Posted: 08:26:09 08/13/08 ()
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Eddie,
Behaviour-oh, behaviour.
"Waite and see what the entire Sierra Leonean population will do to you this time if you start that nasty habit of yours by bringing rebels into the country.
Just hope and pray that the rebel attack in Sulima is a one off thing, if it goes any further than that all of you will be shitting yourselves."
Think positive. Be proactive.
Creole-man say, way snake miss you, if you see FATFOOT nar for jomp.
If your memory will serve you right ( which I doubt) the last war took it baby steps in SL through skirmishes over looted "stuff" from Liberia.
That is a lesson we should never forget so much so that we should (especially the government of the day, which controls the security apparatus)act on even rumours of war.
Eddieboy, one thing you know, is that when there is war, of any nature, it is the poor civilians that bear the brunt of it. This should be a call to rally around whoever is in control and not to start telling the Joe Freetowns that they "will be shitting ON themselves". You never know, if the "shit does not rub on your cousin, maybe you sister will smell it at the minimum.
I know in your little corner you'll be saying this is wishful thinking of the opposition. But I tell you what, I'll consider this as a patriot move by whoever the information is coming from, 'cos it is better to nip it in the bud than pay the untold consequencies.I even heard Chief Manga of Sulima had iterated thus, earlier.
If I was the MOD I'll send some troops up there even if it is just another field trip them, what the heck, some of them are just idling down in FT.The army should be seen to be earning their salary, however meager it maybe.
Eddie, EBK should use this as an opportunity to show the people what he meant about "attichudinal Change", though I'll rather say POSITIVE ATTITUDINAL CHANGE. And that goes for you too.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP OFFICE IN FREETOWN AGAIN
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 12:42:46 08/13/08 ()
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You don't seem to refute much of my concerns. Therefore this is the only sensible response from you in a long time. Knowing that if war breaks out again (the Lord forbbid) we'll not here talking the trash we took for granted.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP OFFICE IN FREETOWN AGAIN
From: How concern
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Date Posted: 14:23:56 08/13/08 ()
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That is differnce between small brains like you in the cocaine business and us. We know where to draw the line between party politics and national issues. I would no go around telling people that they will be "shitting on themselves".
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP OFFICE IN FREETOWN AGAIN
From: Confusion
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Date Posted: 10:27:34 08/13/08 ()
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Please guys help me understand this, is Sulima in the North or do we have many Sulimas? The only Sulima I know is the one in the border with Liberia near Moa river.
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP OFFICE IN FREETOWN AGAIN
From: geography
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Date Posted: 15:06:37 08/13/08 ()
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There are three sulimas in sierra leone. one in koinadugu. one in pujehun and another some place else. this sulima up in koinadugu is an apc stronghold
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP OFFICE IN FREETOWN AGAIN
From: Taveh Gutu
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Date Posted: 05:56:38 08/13/08 ()
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Orman Alieu mang punka yenga? Inyayma kama sorthiss mu ee?
How can a group of men in black be APC thugs? I beleive it is the other way round.Cannibal SLPP don't try to bring another civil war to mama Salone.Be patient and wait for the next fifteen years to smell power again!
Subject: Re: APC ATTACKS SLPP OFFICE IN FREETOWN AGAIN
From: Doom
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Date Posted: 05:46:11 08/13/08 ()
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Again!!! the seventh time??
Subject: SLPP please don't start this again, you will be decimated!
From: Curbed from AT the SLPP mouthpiece
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Date Posted: 02:24:46 08/13/08 ()
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As Ernest Approaches One Year...:Rebels Attack North & Highway Robbers in South of Sierra Leone
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President Ernest Bai Koroma will soon be one year in office and both the President and the country have a lot to be grateful for under his leadership. However, a few developments of late have created some cause for alarm in the citizens.
Probably the hottest topic of the day for now is the Wheeler Dealer 75,000,000,000 followed by the Cocaine Plane Investigations but it is now appearing that another topic has been added to the Hot List. This is the issue of the growing insecurity in the country under the leadership of President Koroma as he approaches one year in office.
Just last week, it was this newspaper which broke the news of what was initially thought to be armed robbers up in the border village of Sonkonya in the Sulima Chiefdom, Koinadugu District in the Northern Province but which credible news reports have now escalated from a simple armed robbery to a murderous expedition by rebellious insurgents from Guinea that have left at least two Sierra Leonean citizens dead and several houses razed to the ground.
"I am calling on the Government to strengthen the border with security so as to save our lives and property," Paramount Chief Manga Salifu Samura II of Sulima told the press as he revealed that this latest August 6th 2008 attack by the insurgents from Guinea was not the first.
The eerie similarity between the current rebellious attacks on border villages up North and the ones that heralded the attacks down in the South East some 17 years ago under President Joseph Saidu Momoh’s leadership has not gone un-noticed. Many concerned citizens have been expressing to this newspaper, the need for security sector to be beefed up.
As if the headache up North is not enough for the Koroma regime, the problems of security up North are seemingly being replicated down in the Southeast as latest reports have proved that the rate of armed robbery along the Bo/Kenema highway is at an unprecedented highest ever since the end of the civil war several long years back. The situation, according to our reporters is now becoming a cause for alarm. Reports indicate that a set of armed robbers have organized themselves and are presently attacking vehicles plying the route between Bo and Kenema. This development is posing a security threat to peaceful citizens in that locality especially drivers.
Recent reports states that, a car carrying passengers from Bo to Kenema was around 4:30am yesterday Monday 11th August 2008 attacked by these robbers and its passengers were comprehensively robbed off all their belongings.
Also few days ago, a mini bus heading to Freetown from Kenema, was attacked, the passengers beaten and all their monies, jewelries and belongings were stolen from them by these armed robbers.
Samuel Koroma, a bus driver plying the route told this press that this ugly development right on the major the highway has disillusioned many drivers plying that route. He expressed concerns that if such practice is not immediately handled, the Bo/Kenema Drivers’ Union will have to summon a meeting and will subsequently have no alternative other than to stop plying the route. He used the opportunity to call on the Government to do every thing possible to rescue this situation before it gets out of hand.
Following this ugly Highway Robbery development, the Assistant Inspector General of Police in Kenema AIG Elizabeth Turay yesterday Monday 11th August 2008 summoned a general meeting of all stakeholders including councilors, chiefs, unions and youth organisations to deliberate on the issue and find possible solutions to combat the growing menace. Meanwhile, the President is fast approaching his first year in office with many things to be thankful for and still many others of grave concern. During last Sunday’s sermon at a local small church near the former residence of the President at Goderich, a preacherman stated that there is growing concern for the security of the citizens under the current leadership.
He prayed for the Almighty to guide Ernest Bai Koroma, "our beloved President" so Koroma can set proper measures in place to secure the citizens. He said no Sierra Leonean wanted to go back where the country was taken during the leadership of Joseph Momoh although he stopped short of comparing Ernest Bai Koroma with Joseph Saidu Momoh (a.k.a. Josephine Tucker).
Subject: What do you disgree with in the piece
From: Keen Observer
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Date Posted: 04:43:00 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: ksisay@Yahoo.co.ou
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What exactly is your beef?
1. That the Cocaine plane has APC's fingerprints all over it? That EBK gave time to Kemoh to unsuccessfully launder his cocaine accounts?
2. That Kolonko dada Serry Kamal has signed to pay Wanza a whooping $25,000,000, whilst nurses in Cocaine Port Loko have not been paid their $30/per month for half a year?
3. That there has been a sharp rise in violent criminality since APC took over? Please call police HQ at George Street - they will confirm a 120% rise in violent crimes since November last year. NEC officers attacked; iscandris friend Aminata violently CAR-JACKED in Freetown; Task force Boys mercilessly beat Men of God; violent attacks by APC thugs in Kono,Freetown, Bo, Mambolo etc; now ambushes on the high way; Why can't this weakling president fire his internal affairs minister? Does he realy know how to lead?
4. Or that Agnes (EBK) is behaving exactly like Josephine Momoh? Why has Kemoh not been detained; Why is Kolonko Dada usruping due process again and again eg In Ojuku's 419 case, Nolle prosequis', stage managing every lawyer in the cocaine case...
My friend state what you think is untrue, and lets address the facts here in the open. It really pains me to say that this government is proving to be worse than even the AFRC ... but then again it is controlled by the AFRC - the Burkina Faso Connection.
Ask yourself this: Why did EBK not go to any serious country in Africa (like Botswana, Ghana, Senegal etc) on his first state visit? Instead he chose rebel sponsor Burkina Faso. He is hand in gloves with Blaise Campori, killer of Sankara. WHY?
Answer these poignant questions truthfully and you may understand why in 11 months, APC has achieved abosolutely nothing. Rice is still Le 140 -150k per bag, whilst allocat1ons to Agriculture is progressively being cut; Bumbuna still years away; Nurses are yet to be paid, New teachers have not been paid for nearly 1 year; Nolle prosequi is used fity fata.
In summary why has APC brought "fitini masubay" on our people? When will EBK start being the leader he was selected to be.
Subject: Re: What do you disgree with in the piece
From: Taveh Gutu
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Date Posted: 04:58:44 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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By your response I know you are a descendant of one of the cannibal areas of Bo, Kenema or Bonthe.
From now on I will be addressing you 'Junior Cannibal'.
So here we go! My concern or commented-headline is not about achievements here sonny boy it is about history wanting to repeat itself. This kind of drumbeating by an SLPP agent who runs a pro-SLPP newspaper is a major cause for concern.The reported highway robbery and insurgency purportedly imported from Guinea bear the hallmarks of a calculated modus operandi by a people ready to to bring about instability to our land once again. It started like this in 1991 and ended up with the maiming and killing of our folks.
I am worried about dangerous developments having the invisible hand of the SLPP if post elections rantings by its members are anything to go by.But I am telling you cannibals if you try it this time you will be biting more than you can chew!
So paddy having said that your questions have been rendered automatically redundant!Sorry about that.
Subject: Taveh Gutu, you have zero national self-esteem
From: Keen Observer
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Date Posted: 05:07:42 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: ksisay@yahoo.co.uk
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Please list any achievements of your beloved Cocaine APC after 1 year at helm of affairs.
I am 100% sure you will chicken out and avoid answering this simple question. To save face please just attempt and publicly undress yourself once again. I know you do not have athritis so please hit the key boards, or as they say forever shut your toxic ranting mouth.
What has the APC achieved in one year?
Subject: Re: Taveh Gutu, you have zero national self-esteem
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 07:38:38 08/13/08 ()
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"What has the APC achieved in one year? "
They've achieved more than what your so-called SLPP 11 years misrule could not even smell.
Subject: Re: Taveh Gutu, you have zero national self-esteem
From: How concern
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Date Posted: 08:39:04 08/13/08 ()
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Eddie, this is how you answer questions.
"What has the APC achieved in one year? "
The APC has managed at least to supply, even though at a very high KW cost, some dull thermal electricity to some parts of FT.
But been the SLPP I am, I'll hastened to add the cocaine plane, the unruly task force, the wheeler dealer AG, the Le 130,000/50kg bag of rice, the new mandirin in town-tin tranga and finally it is owaii, orcacaine.
Subject: Re: Taveh Gutu, you have zero national self-esteem
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 13:05:04 08/13/08 ()
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My answer is satisfactory. I'm not Uman Lappa who you can enticed into dancing to your tune.
The truth of the matter is, your SLPP failed to achieve in 11 years what the APC did in three months so go 'lap ya cousin you nor able draw me pa u Ranka' SLPP.
Subject: Re: Taveh Gutu, you have zero national self-esteem
From: How concern
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Date Posted: 14:13:34 08/13/08 ()
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Truskt me the GOP SLPP do not need your ilks. We are for sustained development.- not cosmetic makeup. Yes in 11 years we tried as much as possible not to subject our citizens to cavity search when they travel abroad, we let them know that thuggery is not the answer, the freedom of press you are now enjoying was put in place by your so called RANKA SLPP- how ungrateful you are.
In an earlier post, I mentioned something about your stupidity and stubborness preventing you from accepting basic, positive instruction as how to answer/respond to questions/statements.. now look what you came up with..."My answer is satisfactory. I'm not Uman Lappa who you can enticed into dancing to your tune.".Next time give a simple example even if it is what O'bai would say " nothing to write home about".
Subject: Re: Taveh Gutu, you have zero national self-esteem
From: How concern
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Date Posted: 14:13:15 08/13/08 ()
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Truskt me the GOP SLPP do not need your ilks. We are for sustained development.- not cosmetic makeup. Yes in 11 years we tried as much as possible not to subject our citizens to cavity search when they travel abroad, we let them know that thuggery is not the answer, the freedom of press you are now enjoying was put in place by your so called RANKA SLPP- how ungrateful you are.
In an earlier post, I mentioned something about your stupidity and stubborness preventing you from accepting basic, positive instruction as how to answer/respond to questions/statements.. now look what you came up with..."My answer is satisfactory. I'm not Uman Lappa who you can enticed into dancing to your tune.".Next time give a simple example even if it is what O'bai would say " nothing to write home about".
Subject: Re: Taveh Gutu, you have zero national self-esteem
From: Taveh Gutu
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Date Posted: 06:13:15 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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A zillion of them!
To mention a few of the highlights:
1-Your people now have the opportunity to enjoy twenty four hours electricity.You know what that means for investors
2-Equal rights(Ref. cocaine trial)
3-Transparency(Declaration of assets by prezo and co.)
4-Effective price control and availability of essential commodities in excess
5-Exceptional world class press freedom
6-Amazing economic growth with less dependence on foreign aid(Re-introduction of taxation and licenses)
7-Reviewing of mining contracts for a fair deal that will enable more percentages to go to the state kitty
8-Massive infrastructural development(e.g. Kailahun the forgotten district)
9-Introduction of self-sufficiency awareness in food
10-Eradication of the remnants of cannibalism and tribalism left behind by the SLPP
Subject: Re: Taveh Gutu, you have zero national self-esteem
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 05:52:47 08/13/08 ()
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Obsessive Compulsive Behavior (OCB) is an anxiety disorder where obsessions (unnecessary recurrent fears, thoughts, or mental images) and compulsions (actions performed repeatedly to relieve anxiety or avoid an imagined threat) impair a person’s ability to function and/or where they suffer emotional pain.
Pharmaceutical remedy prescribed by in-house Dr. Nahim: HAVE A COKE AND A SMILE TWICE EVERY 1/2 HOUR, AND HANG OUT WITH UMAN LAPPA AND TO TEACH YOU NEW TRICKS ABOUT THER OPPOSITE SEX, AND FINALLY, ACCEPT THAT THE APC REALLY KICKED THE BUTT OF THE SLEEPING GREEN GIANT.
Subject: Where is the chicken Taveh Gutu
From: Keen Observer
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Date Posted: 05:40:13 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: ksisay@yahoo.co.uk
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I guess he must have gone back to the chicken house. I'll keep an eye out for him. Today, I'll pluck his feathers.
Subject: SLPP fanatics when will goalkeeper publish the Zim emails?
From: Taveh Gutu
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Date Posted: 02:09:15 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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We have been waiting for the past three months and have been too patient enough.We are still waiting but our patience is not limitless.We are demanding the publishing of those Zimbabwe emails critical of EBK by the celebrated careless goalkeeper. If no emails are published a drastic action will be taken against that infamous and shameless SLPP scribe and the consequences will be devastating. Please hurry up!
Subject: Culled from PEEP, about 3 weeks ago
From: Reuters Agent (Freetown)
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Date Posted: 04:08:48 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: researcher01@yahoo.co.uk
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In a ZANUPF meeting in Buluwayo yesterday, Robert Mugabe was asked what he thought about Ernest Koroma's recent criticism. This was his response:
"The President of Sierra Leone's unprovoked attack on me was unnecessary. My fight however is not against Africa's only Cocaine President, it is against Western Imperialism.
That said, his recent violent attack on Election officers is a first on the continent. I feel sorry for the Sierra Leonean people, because I clearly do not think they diserve such inept leadership. Mr Jammeh
of Gambia recently told me that he does not think highly of his neighbour's intellect. I think his judgement is absolutely right.
Which self respecting African President will allow a plane load of cocaine in his country? Which self respecting President will openly appoint and protect Drug Traffickers in his Government? Imagine if this incident happened in Zimbabwe; the whole CNN and BBC caboodle would have had nothing to report but this. But you all know no suchnonsense will ever happen under my watch.
Please tell the Drug Baron to remove the log in his eyes, before attempting to interfere in a historical war against apartheid... that his ignorant self hardly knows anything about. Let him stick to Cocaine Trafficking.
(there was a hugh uproar of laughter and cheering from the crowd"
................
Yes any more questions, lets move on to more serious people.
Subject: Re: Culled from PEEP, about 3 weeks ago
From: Taveh Gutu
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Date Posted: 04:30:30 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Are these emails or figments of your imaginations?
We want to see emails with email addresses and ip addresses indicating they are true-blue Zimbabwean emails.Don't take yourselves for donkeys or big fools!
Subject: Re: Culled from PEEP, about 3 weeks ago
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 05:28:28 08/13/08 ()
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IMC has the e-mails for verification... unu wait...
Subject: Re: Culled from PEEP, about 3 weeks ago
From: Taveh Gutu
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Date Posted: 05:47:04 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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For how long are we going to wait? We need a time frame.
Subject: Re: SLPP fanatics when will goalkeeper publish the Zim emails?
From: Londoner
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Date Posted: 04:02:16 08/13/08 ()
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Waiting for godot. Keep waiting!
Subject: AFRICA WILL NOT UNITE UNTIL AFRICANS UNITE.
From: Freedom of Speech
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Date Posted: 16:39:07 08/12/08 ()
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Posted by Jacob Kanu on August 12, 2008 at 14:00:45:
In Reply to: Re: Can Africa ever unite? posted by Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas on August 12, 2008 at 10:54:08:
I think its a tall order, but we must die trying. 'Only a united Africa can redeem its past glory, renew and reinforce its strength for the realisation of its destiny'
Free market is a useful tool in the quest...but definitely not a pre-requisite. In my humble opinion, I think unflinching political will, will be the most potent agent for a genuine African Union. And this is what makes it a tall order.
Unless Africa gets a significant number of serving Presidents/leaders who value unconditional integration more than potential individual benefits, a genuine union will remain elusive. Bluntly put, we will need African leaders like Nkrumah, Samora Machel, Thomas Sankara, William du Bois, Jomo Kenyatta, Robert Sobukwe, Patrice Lumumba, Barack Obama and a few more - all active during the same period.
Then and only then will we get to the 'promised land'.
P/s
Did I hear the Chief in Exile mention EBK? Astafullai, EBK cannot even define Pan-Africanism, let alone understand it.
Subject: Re: AFRICA WILL NOT UNITE UNTIL AFRICANS UNITE.
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 02:36:02 08/13/08 ()
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The idea that leadership revolves around a leader's ability, behavior, style or charisma is only part of the truth. Thus, leadership is not the work of a single person, rather a collaborative endevor among the people and those they elect or select.
We read about Obama's "MOVEMENT" for change, and we also listen to him telling supporters that he cannot bring change without them. Moreover, leaders are those who are ready, able, and willing to share responsibility, success, and failure.
Subject: Re: AFRICA WILL NOT UNITE UNTIL AFRICANS UNITE.
From: zakmal
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Date Posted: 20:41:03 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
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If all of the leaders you mentioned are in the bus to the promise land ,I think I would take a pass and wait for the bus that has leaders such as the late Sir Seretse Khama of Botswana who took a landlock country from abject poverty to great wealth with one of the highest standard of living in africa in a short period of time.I would also wait for the bus that has the leader of mauritius and also Nelson Mandela not for his ideology but his courage and class.
When are we africans going to stop romanticizing these communists and socialists of the past who destroyed the continent with their experiment.
Present day china and Russia abandoned socialism decades ago. I hope our president would pay a visit to Botswana in the not too distant future to learn from a country that discovered diamonds only generation and a half ago.
Subject: Kutubu: Hierachy in RSLMF
From: Farrah Marrah
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Date Posted: 14:53:35 08/12/08 ()
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Kutubu,
When Brigadier David Lansana was the Force Commander what was the rest of the hierachy of the Royal Sierra Leone Military Forces?
Subject: Re: Kutubu: Hierachy in RSLMF
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 20:26:18 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.comDD
Entered From: pool-71-241-236-103.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.241.236.103
Message:
Mr.Marrah,i am just returning home from work and that explains why it took me this long to reply to you.
In any case when Brigadier R.D.Blackie the last British GOC of the army left,these were the following officers and the ranks held:
Captain David Lansana,
John Amadu Bangura,
Andrew Terrence Juxon -Smith,
Ambrose Patrick Ganda.
There is in the British army and i am sure it applied to Sierra Leone then where by an officer will double his rank while still holding the original one.
Example,you can move from Captain to Lt.Col while you are still substantive Captain.
As Lansana was the most senior of all of them,he was moved to the one star general rank to fill the vacancy left by the departure of Brigadier Blackie.
Bangura became a Col.and deputy force commander while Juxon-Smith,and Ambrose Genda were both promoted Lt.Cols.
Blake,Kaisamba,Jumu,and Koroma were Majors.
Sam Boma,Foyah,Swarray,and others were Captains,while Abu Noah,James Macarthy,Sam King,Caulker and others were all Lts.
So,the command structure of the army was as follows up to 1971.
1 Brigadier,
1Colonel,
2LT.Cols
over half a dozen Majors,
Lots of Captains,
and endless Lts.
After republic follopwing Bangura's coup,the rank was upgraded and Momoh became the first two star general i.e.Major-General.
Other countries like Nigeria,Ghana and the UK have four star generals.UK had field Marshals i.e.five star Generals until Tony Blair's administration reduced it to a four star ranking it with the USA The last five star general UK had or Field Marshal who is now retired is Filed Marshal Sir.Peter Inge.Those who came after him from the army Charles Guithier,and Michael Walker attained the General ranks only.
The Navy and Air force structures in the context of commands were not altered at all.
The professional head of the Navy in the UK is styled
"ADMIRAL OF THE FLEET AND FIRST SEA LORD".The professional head of the Air Force is styled "THE AIR CHIEF MARSHAL".There is an overall senior military commander whose title is "CHIEF OF DEFENCE STAFF".The office rotates among the army.Navy,and Airforce.Currently,the office is held by the Airforce.
The Royal Marines in the UK is the fighting force for the Navy.The highest officer is styled "Major-General".
He is under the supervision of the Admiral of the fleet.
Subject: Kutubu was humbled, give him time to recover, PLEASE!
From: CHIEF IN EXILE
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Date Posted: 16:27:05 08/12/08 ()
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Posted by CHIEF IN EXILE on August 12, 2008 at 12:36:37:
Posted by London Boy on August 12, 2008 at 11:11:52:
In Reply to: JOINT LETTER TO LORD PHILIPS AND DR.ROWAN WILLIAMS. posted by Mohamed Kutubu Koroma on August 12, 2008 at 09:50:18:
"Did you actually post this rubbish?
I honestly hope not, because they will simply laugh at you.Your limitations will be exposed.
That is the danger about Sierra leoneans, we always rely on half-Knowledge.
What do you know about the British Legal system? Do you know that what was been discussed is alredy been practised here in the United Kingdom? Do you know that the Jews equally carry out similar religious practices here in the United kingdom.
When a man as eminent as Lord Phillips supports an idea and try to explain the same, some low minded idiot like you should simply read and learn.
Muslims are part of the British soociety and Culture, and they are simply trying to excercise those rights.
Since you don't live in the United Kingdom, it is a waste of time even writing this.
goodbye."
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POOR, MOHAMED KUTUBU KOROMA. NOW SOMEONE ELSE IS REPEATING WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT YOU BEING "A RIGHT-BRAINED, FUNCTIONAL ILLITERATE".
REMEMBER MY ADVICE: "IF YOU WANT TO RUN WITH US, THE BIG DOGS, YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO PEE LIKE AN ABANDONED OKURU PUPPY". Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe!
Subject: Kemoh knew about Cocaine plane well before it came to Lungi
From: DEA Agent (Freetown)
To: All
Date Posted: 14:49:23 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: douglassm@socad.com
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The Cocaine Minister is now attempting to clean his tracks by arm twisting Mr Brima into saying he refused to grant permission.
Kemoh had granted permission for an Antonov from Kinshasha on the same the night of the cesna landing. This was obviously to cover his tracks as no Antomov landed that night. Did the trafickers change planes or is Cocaine boy now trying to save face?
EBK's delay in taking decisions may have given Kemoh the opportunity to hide or shred some of the evidence. We are going to start releasiung some damning documentation that proves Government involvement in this Cocaine horror.
Sierra Leoneans the world over are going to be shocked at the number and rank of APC men involved in this Cocaine transhipment.
Subject: Re: Kemoh knew about Cocaine plane well before it came to Lungi
From: Venezuelean
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Date Posted: 03:54:44 08/13/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Why pick on Kemoh???Many Govt officials have beeen meeting Venezueleans is last few months.Name names?
Subject: Re: Kemoh knew about Cocaine plane well before it came to Lungi
From: CHIEFDOM ELDERS
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Date Posted: 16:46:14 08/12/08 ()
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"...We are going to start releasiung some damning documentation that proves Government involvement in this Cocaine horror..."
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GEE! WE CANNOT WAIT TO "SINK OUR TEETH" ON IT!
Subject: Re: Kemoh knew about Cocaine plane well before it came to Lungi
From: Waiting in the bush
To: All
Date Posted: 18:16:51 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: codfodnus@aol.com
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What are you waiting for? Why can't you do it now. You are fooling yourself. You guys are realy frustrated. Any way talk is free, you can say what ever you want to say as long as you do not go to the bush this time.
Subject: Sierra Leone: Hassan Gbassay Kanu Lobbies for APC Chair
From: Old Wine
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Date Posted: 14:22:11 08/12/08 ()
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Sierra Leone: Hassan Gbassay Kanu Lobbies for APC Chair
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Concord Times (Freetown)
12 August 2008
Posted to the web 12 August 2008
Rachael Horner
Freetown
A former minister of finance has reportedly launched a nationwide campaign to lobby All Peoples Congress (APC) party stalwarts to vote him as national chairman ahead of their national delegate congress in April 2009.
The delegate congress is the highest decision-making body of the party.
According to reports, Hassan Gbassay Kanu has started wooing APC henchmen and has been paying frequent visits to the State House to garner more support.
When contacted, Kanu said he is interested in becoming the chairman of the party adding that he deems it fit to head the party now.
During the party's last convention in Port Loko in 2006, a resolution was adopted to amend some sections of the APC constitution and copies have been distributed to members of the national advisory council to allow for suggestions and inputs.
Deputy Speaker of Parliament, Chukuma Johnson is the party's incumbent chairman.
Subject: Has this old man being sniffing the APC Cocaine?
From: DEA Agent (Freetown)
To: All
Date Posted: 14:35:45 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: donwhite@yahoo.co.uk
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Hassan G Kanu, please please please, stay out of Salone politics. You had your day, and have nothing new to offer.
But then again if EBK is dumb enough to appoint Serry, sure he might just endorse this olf fool.
Subject: Have you been missing human flesh?
From: Taveh Gutu
To: All
Date Posted: 01:55:19 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-235-239.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.235.239
Message:
Seems the coming of EBK has hampered the supply of human flesh to you SLPP cannibals. Buddy times have changed.The cannibal party is over.If there is any report of missing people at this time,the invincible Serry Kamal will nail the entire SLPP cannibal cabal.Things are bad!
Subject: Re: Have you been missing human flesh?
From: Sokomans
To: All
Date Posted: 08:22:28 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: Musutaste@yahoo.com
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Message:
First, he has to nail the Soko blood thirsty bandits to the coca plant so that they will forever stay 'cocained'.Shaki used the Cannibalism stunt before,but it won't jell this time wrong. Remember Kazali?The true cannibals are the descendants of Sokobana- who openly exhibit their love for human blood for all to see.
Like your compatriot Foday Tangaise Sankoh, you have started the incursions again. Better keep it in the your backyard; otherwise, we are ready this time wrong to cut off your genitals(no short sleeve this time).Stupid bigot and ignoramus.
Subject: Re: Have you been missing human flesh?
From: Taveh Gutu
To: All
Date Posted: 14:02:42 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-235-239.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.235.239
Message:
If you are right who invented the kongobay for hunting humans as food game?
You all are cannibals to the Nth degree.
Subject: URGENT::: SHORT TERM JOB OFFER FROM NATIONAL DIASPORA OFFICE
From: NATIONAL DIASPORA OFFICE
To: All
Date Posted: 13:58:49 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: michel_sawyer@yahoo.com
Entered From: s100-masq.iptelsl.net at 83.229.112.20
Message:
IOM Project Counter Trafficking Prevention and Protection
Terms of Reference
Two Experts from the Sierra Leone Diaspora
Background
Since 2006, IOM Freetown has been providing return and reintegration assistance to victims of trafficking in Sierra Leone. IOM efforts have focused not only on the provision of immediate protection assistance (i.e. Shelter, medical and legal counseling) but has also built the capacity of relevant stakeholders to provide tailored reintegration assistance. In 2007, IOM Freetown opened the first shelter in Sierra Leone to assist children victims of trafficking. At the shelter, victims are provided with comprehensive psychosocial counseling, medical assistance and accommodation, in view of helping them recover from the traumatic experiences undergone. In collaboration with the Ministry of Social Welfare (MSW), IOM provides voluntary return and reintegration assistance to their communities of origin.
Socioeconomic reintegration of children victims of trafficking into their communities of origin is an essential component of IOM’s Prevention and Protection project. In Sierra Leone, the solid working relationship between the MSW and IOM has permitted the assistance, return and reintegration of 140 children in the past year. Upon the recommendation of the MSW Social Development Officer who advises the victims, IOM provides reintegration packages to the assisted children. They typically opt for tailoring, motor mechanic or carpentry training, hair dressing, clothing, petty trading, rice selling businesses. The younger children are given school materials and an assistance to their parents’ business which will be used in the children’s interest, and ensure that parents will be able to pay school fees in the future.
Reintegration assistance has also included training in basic business management and micro-credit, the establishment of income-generating micro-grant enterprises and participation in micro-credit schemes.
Overall Objective
IOM Freetown wishes to link up with Sierra Leonean Diaspora in the US in order to facilitate a skills transfer and raise awareness on human and child trafficking in Sierra Leone. This exchange will allow the Diaspora to further contribute to the development of their country and the reintegration of victims of trafficking.
Activities
Two representatives will be identified by the Office of the Diaspora, in close consultation with IOM. They will be trained on basic concepts of counter trafficking by the IOM Washington office prior to their temporary return to Sierra Leone. They will then travel to Sierra Leone on a 7-day mission.
- Expert in Micro-Credit and Small Business Management:
- Will provide a 1-day training for Victims of Trafficking who are currently benefiting from micro-credit or business assistance in Freetown (18)
- Will provide a 1-day training for NGO service providers, shelter staff and Ministry of Social Welfare on principles and good practices in micro-credit.
- Expert in Advocacy and Communications:
- Will conduct a fact-finding mission in order to gain expertise on the situation of child trafficking in Sierra Leone, meeting with relevant government counterparts, NGO service providers, IOM staff, and victims;
- Upon return, will hold awareness raising meetings with the Sierra Leone Diaspora in the US
Work plan
Expected arrival of two Experts from the Sierra Leone Diaspora - 3rd Week in August
18th August - 22nd August 2008. (5 working days)
COST
All travel and related costs will be borne by IOM Freetown.
Contact: Dr. Michel Sho-Sawyer
Email : michel_sawyer@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: URGENT::: SHORT TERM JOB OFFER FROM NATIONAL DIASPORA OFFICE
From: salone72
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Date Posted: 18:57:52 08/13/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Why doesn't the office of the diaspora pay and adverise the proper way Dr.?
Subject: Mahmoud Kadi
From: Alikali
To: All
Date Posted: 13:30:45 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: dele25@yahoo.com
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Message:
First Wanza,now Mahmoud Kadi is about to be repaid millions of leones he claimed he was owed by the SL Govt. Ex-Momoh govt officials now in the new govt are organising this further example of grand larceny.
'EBK are dae hand over me party card, ar don tire'
Subject: Armed gang kills 2, burns houses
From: Concord Times
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Date Posted: 13:28:14 08/12/08 ()
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Concord Times
Armed gang kills 2, burns houses
By Ibrahim Tarawallie from Kabala
Unknown armed gang around the Sierra Leone/Guinea border Sunday night attacked residents of Sonkonya village in the Sulima chiefdom, Koinadugu district burnt three houses and left two dead.
According to paramount chief Manga Salifu Samura III youths of Falaba chiefdom have chased out some thieves who came into the village to steal their cattle just five days before the attack.
PC Samura III told Concord Times that the assailants fled leaving behind stolen cattle with a “promise to come back and cause serious trouble for residents in the chiefdom because they were not able to make their way.” He added that they did fulfil their promise by attacking the village later.
“On Wednesday night, the armed gang attacked residents in the chiefdom and opened rapid firing in the entire village. Two people were killed and three houses were burnt down,” he said.
After the attack the chief immediately al3rted men of the Sierra Leone police and Republic of Sierra Leone Armed Forces stationed in the district to investigate the matter. They later learnt that Lansana Turay and Alie Sawaneh have been killed in the inroad.
However, local unit commander of Mongo police station in the Koinadugu district Superintendent Jorwulor Gbonnoh confirmed the incident and added that one Mohammed Kamara was also badly injured.
He said he has dispatched men to the scene of crime to collaborate with army officers for thorough investigation.
“We will do our best to get to the root of the matter. This is the first time we are having such an incident in that area,” he said and assured that checkpoints have already been mounted at strategic points within the chiefdom.
Subject: FCC In Spending Spree
From: Tiff Mayor
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Date Posted: 13:20:30 08/12/08 ()
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FCC In Spending Spree
Premier news
As at January 2008, when Herbert George-Williams became the Acting Mayor of the Freetown City Council, to end of July 2008, when he had been elected the substantive Mayor of Freetown, the sum of over one billion four hundred thousand Leones had been spent by his council.
This sum is apart from some six hundred thousand pounds sterling (£600,000} outward transfer from the Council’s Sierra Leone Commercial Bank Account on the 22nd May 2008 leaving a balance of £16,599.45 in the account as at 31 May 2008.
Authoritative sources at the Council reveal that the Winstanley Bankoke-Johnson administration left the sum of Le1.4bn in the Council’s Bank account. Out of this amount, the Council has only paid the contractors for the demolition of the City hall project the sum of Le300,000,000(three hundred million leones) once, for the first phase of the project. The rest of the money which is from the Council’s Tied Grant account with the SLCB, is set aside purely for development projects. According to sources at the council, the Tied Grant Account has procurement guidelines which the Council did not go through before accessing the account and making such large withdrawals.
The Major guideline for accessing the Tied Grant Account is that the prepared development project must be in the Development Plan which must be approved by Council and factored in the budget. It must then be sent to the Local Government Finance Department (LGFD) and the Decentralization Secretariat and the Local Government Service Commission for approvals before the account can be withdrawn. This did not happen, but the amounts were withdrawn.
Because of this process, development fund for 2006 was not approved and therefore no development project was undertaken by the Council. In 2004, none of the Local Councils in the country had the Tied Grant Account. But in 2005, the sum of Le550 million Leones was granted to the Freetown City Council in the last week of December. In 2006, the sum of Le960 million was again paid into the Freetown City Council’s Tied Grant Account. It is this money that Herbert George-Williams inherited.
This does not mean that the Council did not undertake development projects. In actual fact they did, even though some of the projects did not go through the right procedure. For example, the Krootown Road market project which cost well over Le60 million was never tendered as is required by the Local Government Act which stipulates that all projects above the sixty million Leones threshold must be tendered.
The Metropolitan Police post project was also not tendered and the extension inside the City Council which costs a whopping Le168 million was also not tendered.
Herbert George-Williams also approved money to Councilors for development projects in their wards just before the last Local Government elections. According to sources, one of such beneficiaries was Councillor Ade Lewally who received money to build a Community Centre in Brass Street, but had to convert the project to a public toilet when he encountered some dispute over ownership of the land for the project.
The balance of the money given for the community centre project is yet to be returned to Council.
Herbert George-Williams and the then Acting Chief Administrator Bowenson Philips also withdrew £15,000 sterling to finance their trip to Ghana and Holland and they are yet to retire the said amount.
It is believed that because it was realised that the SLCB account is being operated too frequently, the Mayor and Chief Administrator transferred the sum of Le350 million from the Sierra Leone Commercial Bank to First International Bank on the 31st of May 2008. This transaction was not approved by either Council or the LGFD.
Reports reaching Premier News also indicate that the Crown Agents Account has also been tampered with without due procedure. The Crown Agents money is governed by the Freetown Municipal Officer Superannuation Fund governed by Cap 71 of the Laws of Sierra Leone.
One of the cardinal provisions in Section 15 says “that the Council shall send reports to the Governor (President) and to account for expenditure undertaken by Council.” But the Chief Administrator and the Mayor are spending money without approval from the Local Government Finance Department and the Decentralization Secretariat, the two bodies that are to monitor and approve large expenditures, revealed our source. There are other grey areas of Council dealings which the new Mayor has not corrected.
One of such is that lands are given out to some people without formal lease agreements. For the June Holst-Roness School land at Syke Street, there is no formal tenancy agreement between the Council and Kalonzo Bah. For now, the middle portion of that land has been leased to the Greek Orthodox Church which is now restricted to the fenced school’s compound.
One other issue that is begging for explanation is that the Chief administrator wrote to each staff to resign their appointments and re- apply for their jobs if they so desire. It is alleged by inside sources that many people collected their benefits between three million Leones and fifty six million Leones depending on their category and they did not resign or re-apply. Yet they continue in service and continue to receive their salaries.
When contacted on these allegations, the Chief Administrator, Bowenson Philips said that as stated by the Mayor during yesterday’s inauguration ceremony, his council will account for every penny that they spend. He said too that they always go by the procurement act in all procurement matters.
“I will even suggest that you contact the procurement officer who will answer detailed questions on procurement.” He stated. “Of course we withdrew fifteen thousand pounds sterling for our Holland trip because we had in mind some expenditure for the council, not for our personal expenses. As far as Kalonzo is concerned, from the strictly legal point of view, a decision was taken through council to lease the property to kalonzo for educational purposes. A letter of offer was made to him and he paid the necessary amount. Bankole Johnson was against that. But as I stated, everything is legal. Council made an offer and he paid. As for councilors going round to take money from him for protection, you may have to talk to the concerned councilors.”
He explained further that Council does have an account with FIB, but it was not a transfer from Sierra Leone Commercial bank.
“We have a Leone account with FIB. We agreed to withdraw money from the Superannuation Fund Account because the Superannuation Fund is no more. It has closed. It is now the Development fund. We had to use from it to settle staff gratuities and pensions. The amount you said we withdrew is correct. But I can assure you that we can account for every Leone spent,” he stressed.
As for paying staff who had resigned and collected their final settlements, we decided that was the right thing to do at the time. They all reapplied and were accepted again so we have to continue paying them salaries.
When contacted also, the procurement Officer of the council, Mr.Fodie J. Konneh, said that all the projects done by the council were below the 100 million Leone threshold for works.
He said “if you talk about works programme, we have what we call RSQ (Request for quotation) also called shopping. We usually need tenders for projects above 100 million. This is what is required by National Competitive Bidding, when it costs up to 150 million Leones.”
He went on to explain that in procurement, there are works, goods and services all of which have different thresholds. Goods and services have 60million threshold while works is 150 million, according to the 2004 National Procurement Act.
“All the projects I met, the ones you mentioned, were below 100 million Leones each.
Below 600 million, you go to NCB. Above that it is International Competitive bidding.
Whoever told you that the projects were not bidded for must have misconstrued the above facts.”
He went on to explain that the 168 million Leones for the extension of city council project was the proposed cost of the project. “Since council did not have all the money, we had to lot it into phases. So that was what we did. You must know too that any procurement activity at some quarter is advertised. We ask for quotations. All projects apart from the demolition project were under 100 million each.”
The procurement officer also stated that the allegation that councilors were given money for projects in their wards before the election was not correct.
“How can we give them money?” he queried. “The councilors had to bring projects and the projects were given to contractors to execute. So no councilor received money. If they received money it must be from the contractors, not the council.”
He also explained that the superannuation fund was the workers money. So when council needed it they had to take it to settle the workers benefits, just like it is done in NASSIT now.
As for the Tied Grant account, he said that cannot be released unless there is a development project.
“I am not sure it has to be controlled by the Local Government Finance Department and the decentralization secretariat. If they do then that is not decentralization. I think they only monitor the account, not control it,” he ended.
Subject: Sierra Leone: Nation Without National Self-esteem
From: Bra Enviable
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Date Posted: 12:41:44 08/12/08 ()
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When the immigration department of the Sierra Leone Police Force recently rounded up criminal aliens and marked them for deportation, loud discomforting noises were made among Sierra Leoneans in the Diaspora. As the hue and cry against the police raids turned into a raucous, it became quite clear that Sierra Leoneans, including those in the Diaspora, cannot tell the differences between the legitimate acts of law enforcement on the one hand, and needless acts of xenophobia on the other. Every state, whether democratic or despotic, is tasked with the primary responsibility of maintaining law and order by setting the standards of behavior for non-citizens within its borders. Sierra Leone's status as a recently-rescued country by a multinational coalition, should not stop the state from maintaining law and order through police action against external criminals. Accustomed to hypocritical generosity at their own expense, many Sierra Leoneans decried the police actions against criminal aliens, with some self-doubting citizens suggesting on Cocorioko that without foreigners, Sierra Leone will always be an insolvent country. Low self-esteem, it seems, is a Sierra Leonean condition waiting to be addressed before that country can be dug out of its national malaise.
While every country needs interaction with the world outside its borders, self-determination places the preservation, and promotion, of the national interest in the hands of citizens. There is, for example, no national interested to be promoted when foreigners are given a free hand to recruit citizens as apprentices for drug-trafficking.
The web of deceit reportedly woven by Serry Kamal and a Lebanese merchant, in which millions of leones changed hands, is quite evocative of the low self-esteem that has always plagued our country. To be a corrupt official is one thing. Taking leave of self-esteem to pawn your country to a foreign swindler, is an act of disloyalty representative of national traitors! Serry Kamal is not the first quisling in our midst. Sierra Leone has an unbreakable tradition of low self-esteem that has consistently pawned citizens to foreigners. Any nation with a mere drop of nationalist sensibilities in its veins could have called for the political blood of Serry Kamal, followed by his public crucifixion in the court of popular opinion. I think we can rediscover ourselves by waging a public campaign against low national self-esteem the same way AIDS is being revealed as a remorseless killer.
Subject: Re: Sierra Leone: Nation Without National Self-esteem
From: Settler
To: All
Date Posted: 16:00:24 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: Settler@yahoo.com
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Well said my learned friend. If only Sierra Leone's politicians were truely aware of the historical might of the land they have inherited, pedigree alone would have been a source of propulsion for these magots.
They absolutely have NO confidence in their abilities, nor in that of society. They would rather have the Lebanese, and other crawling creatures run them in their own land. We spent so many years getting educated, seven years in primary, another seven in secondary school, and six years in university, only to end up as strangers in a strange land, whilst foriegners in cahoots with our own brethren deny us the right to our own land all in the name of politics and tribalism.
Subject: Re: Sierra Leone: Nation Without National Self-esteem
From: dumbeh
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Date Posted: 15:15:19 08/12/08 ()
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You are too stupid. Kabbah started the whole thing. You should blame Kabbah, not Serry, who is just trying to get rid of the mess Kabbah left. Tupit.
Subject: Re: Sierra Leone: Nation Without National Self-esteem
From: Say It Bro
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Date Posted: 13:42:14 08/12/08 ()
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Bra Enviable, whether your critics accept it or not you are the man. You say it with intellectual style and national zeal. Kudos Bra Enviable.
Subject: Re: Sierra Leone: Nation Without National Self-esteem
From: Jamil Sahid
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Date Posted: 13:19:09 08/12/08 ()
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We have not seen nothing yet! - an American would say loud to such a folly. We are back to the days of Jamil Sahid Muhammed. Osaii! Owaii! Ocurruption!
Subject: Re: Sierra Leone: Nation Without National Self-esteem
From: Jacob Kanu
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Date Posted: 12:59:06 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: jacob.kanu@yahoo.com
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Bra E, you nailed it once again. The truth is the likes of Kolonko daddy Kamal, appointed by no less a person than EBK says a lot about the current state of affairs in our country.
Trust me though Serry Kamal will have his judgement day soon. EBK might choose to ignore these unpatriotic viruses in his governent with their ostensible display of non-existent national self esteem only at his own peril.
I would not count much on Cocorioko front page to deviate from praise singing a really terrible trend in our country. They might probably delete these posts again as they have done in the past. My guess is they must be on the payroll.
My faith is in the resilience of our people to bounce back when they get backed in the corner. Lets just watch the space. The likes of Kamal will pay sooner or later, and his 'sender' EBK will pay dearly for ignoring, and passively promoting the growing national low self-esteem toxicity.
Some tem den feel say nar den Papa get Salone.
Subject: FOLKS, WHEN I SAID THAT KUTUBU KOROMA IS AN ILLITERATE...
From: CHIEF IN EXILE
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Date Posted: 12:36:37 08/12/08 ()
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Posted by London Boy on August 12, 2008 at 11:11:52:
In Reply to: JOINT LETTER TO LORD PHILIPS AND DR.ROWAN WILLIAMS. posted by Mohamed Kutubu Koroma on August 12, 2008 at 09:50:18:
"Did you actually post this rubbish?
I honestly hope not, because they will simply laugh at you.Your limitations will be exposed.
That is the danger about Sierra leoneans, we always rely on half-Knowledge.
What do you know about the British Legal system? Do you know that what was been discussed is alredy been practised here in the United Kingdom? Do you know that the Jews equally carry out similar religious practices here in the United kingdom.
When a man as eminent as Lord Phillips supports an idea and try to explain the same, some low minded idiot like you should simply read and learn.
Muslims are part of the British soociety and Culture, and they are simply trying to excercise those rights.
Since you don't live in the United Kingdom, it is a waste of time even writing this.
goodbye."
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________
POOR, MOHAMED KUTUBU KOROMA. NOW SOMEONE ELSE IS REPEATING WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT YOU BEING "A RIGHT-BRAINED, FUNCTIONAL ILLITERATE".
REMEMBER MY ADVICE: "IF YOU WANT TO RUN WITH US, THE BIG DOGS, YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO PEE LIKE AN ABANDONED OKURU PUPPY". Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe!
Subject: Theo
From: U.N is made to bring mankind to paradise.
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Date Posted: 12:36:12 08/12/08 ()
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Word for wise sierra leonean educationist in cocorioko forum.Not for those so called fooled schorlars who doesnt know how to bring development to our father land but to ignite or fuelled hatred to our peace won nation.May the lord bless those who mean well for the county.
Subject: Re: Theo
From: Teacher Sanu
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Date Posted: 15:38:49 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: tsanu@yahoo.com
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Papay nar for go school back oh. Oh get help
Subject: ...And Lawyer Charles Margai LANDS A PUNISHING UPPERCUT!
From: CHIEF IN EXILE
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Date Posted: 12:00:09 08/12/08 ()
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"...I wish our President was as serious as his dress code and personal grooming. His fashionable looks and clothes are completely at variance with his management skills and competencies. As Boss Gus would put it - it seems EBK compensates for cranial deficiencies with cosmetics and fashion. Or rather as Proff Victor Strasser King jokingly enquired once during a public lecture ... is this man (EBK worthy of wearing silk?" (Charles F. Margai)
Subject: Re: ...And Lawyer Charles Margai LANDS A PUNISHING UPPERCUT!
From: China Man
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Date Posted: 13:28:11 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: yinmiao@yahoo.co.uk
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Ar dont tink your leader shud wear silk jus yet. He has not done anything serious yet.
Subject: Re: ...And Lawyer Charles Margai LANDS A PUNISHING UPPERCUT!
From: Lightman
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Date Posted: 09:46:38 08/13/08 ()
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What about Electricity???
Subject: Never judge a book by its cover
From: Charles F Margai
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Date Posted: 11:34:37 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: charles.margai@yahoo.com
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“..may be you sucks but you want people to think this way about EKB” True Talk
Well Mr True talk, when EBK appoints people like Ojuku to represent us in the UK; 419 Specialist Serry Kamal as AG, barely literate Mohamed Koroma of We Yone newspaper as deputy Information Minister, Zainab Bunguler as Foreign Minister... man he must have very inept recruitment skills.
I wish our President was as serious as his dress code and personal grooming. His fashionable looks and clothes are completely at variance with his management skills and competencies. As Boss Gus would put it - it seems EBK compensates for cranial deficiencies with cosmetics and fashion. Or rather as Proff Victor Strasser King jokingly enquired once during a public lecture ... is this man (EBK worthy of wearing silk?
Whatever the joke, Prezo should let the world know he diserves to wear suits or silk by performing accordingly. Sack Serry Kamal now and at least start pretending that you are in charge.
Subject: Re: Never judge a book by its cover
From: Shaday Williams
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Date Posted: 13:23:32 08/12/08 ()
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Is our president really that miserable, Mr Margai? I know he has difficulties with some words, like "chancellor" and attitudinal. Are you saying he lacks management acumen as well. Well salone sorry fuss ooh.
Subject: INVITING PROFESSOR ZACK-WILLIAMS TO THE COCORIOKO FORUM.
From: Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas
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Date Posted: 10:09:38 08/12/08 ()
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Editorial: Amistad and Education in The African Diaspora
Dr. Tunde Zack-Williams delivered the First in the Annual Amistad Lecture Series on November 14, 2003 at the Torp Theater, Central Connecticut State University, New Britain. Dr. Tunde Zack-Williams, Professor of Sociology at Central Lancashire University, Preston, was chosen for this distinguished lecture because of his outstanding academic work on Africa and the African Diaspora. His research on diamond - mining in Sierra-Leone provides us with a definitive study of the intersections between indigenous mining activities and British colonial corporations such as the Consolidated African Selection Trust (CAST), which assumed a monopoly in mining and prospecting in Sierra Leone until 1936. Dr. Zack-Williams eloquently discusses the South African De Beers mining group and indigenous African interest groups such as the Kono Progressive Movement. More recently he has analyzed the significance of child soldiers in the recent conflict in Sierra Leone including the role of conflict diamonds in the war that evolved. Dr. Zack-Williams has published extensively on the African Diaspora in Liverpool in particular and the United Kingdom in general.
We are pleased to include the First Amistad Lecture in the current issue of Africa Update.
Dr. Gloria Emeagwali
Chief Editor, AfricaUpdate
Amistad and Education in The African Diaspora:
The First in the Annual Amistad Lecture Series, CCSU
by Alfred B. Zack-Williams, PhD
Professor of Sociology
University of Central Lancaster,
United Kingdom
Introduction
Distinguished Colleagues, Fellow Students, Ladies and Gentlemen. May I start off by thanking the organizers of this symposium for inviting me to give the First Annual Amistad Lecture. In particular, I want to thank Dr Charles Mate-Kole, the Director of the Africana Center and Dr. Gloria Emeagwali, the Chair of the Amistad Committee for their effort in getting me over here. Indeed, I feel quite honored. I am aware of the academic links between our two institutions. Every year I have students from Central Connecticut State University among our growing number of international students. Your students are often surprised when I start mentioning the names of distinguished colleagues from your institution with whom I am acquainted.
My own history is very much tied up with Segbe Pieh Cinque, partly because like him, I am from that country which the Portuguese initially called Sierra Lyoa, or Lion Mountains. Pedro da Cintra and his crew who came down the West African Coast around 1462 in search of the sea root to the East (India), must have arrived during the rainy season and were greeted by the roaring of thunder and flashes of lightning, and with the series of mountainous landscape that constitute the peninsular of Freetown. They were convinced that the land they had arrived at was a land of lions. In fact, nothing could be further from the truth, as the vegetation of coastal Sierra Leone could not sustain savannah-type predators like lions.
As we celebrate Amistad, a monumental occasion in Africana or dare I say in American history, it is important to note two things:
The state of Africa in the pre-Columbian era. The Portuguese were the first Europeans to sail down the African coast in search of the sea route to the spice trade of the East. By 1462, Pedro da Cintra had carved his name on a giant mural on Freetown harbor. Da Cintra and his crew continued their journey and became one of the few Europeans to witness the Empire of Benin in contemporary Nigeria at its peak. He wrote of Benin as a city with very wide and clean streets, unlike anything he had encountered in Europe and that the people were also well clad. This on the eve of the outbreak of the destructive Triangular Trade from which Africa is yet to recover.
Secondly, in Segbe Pieh Cinque I recognize a spirit of determination of not giving up in the face of adversaries, or when others have written you off. I recognize a spirit of Harambee, a spirit of togetherness. I want to refer to this as the spirit of the Amistad. Just recently among Sierra Leoneans there has been a debate as to the ethnic origin of Segbe Pieh Cinque. The consensus is that he came from the Bullom or Sherbro ethnic group from Bonthe Island in the Southwestern corner of Sierra Leone. Pieh in Bullom indicates that he was the second born son in that family, and as a seafaring people, Segbe Pieh Cinque must have learnt seafaring activities from various fishing adventures by the time he was captured into slavery, in April 1839. Perhaps, it is this seemingly rudimentary knowledge of the southern Atlantic coast that enabled him to take control of the Amistad after the Spanish Captain had been killed.
I emphasize that for our young people to inculcate the Spirit of the Amistad if they have to become relevant in what others have called the post-modern world. They must also be aware of the great heritage from which they descend. I am concerned with the conspicuous absence of young African men in public spaces. I use the term African young men to refer to African-Caribbean men in Britain and African American men. It seems to me that African men are in crisis by their failure to encompass the spirit of Segbe Pieh.
As a sociologist I am acutely aware of the role education plays in social mobility. If I could draw from a source I know quite a bit about, Continental Africa, where I taught for a number of years following my doctoral work. Many of the African leaders that we as African Diasporic people champion today, such as: Nelson Mandela, Kwame Nkrumah, Nnamdi Azikiwe, Cheik Anta Diop, Leopold Senghor, Jomo Kenyatta, Samora Machel, Eduardo Mondlane and Amilcar Cabral, were all descendants of peasant households, who seized the opportunities, however small within colonialism to educate themselves and in many cases in order to liberate their own people. These great African nationalists were all united in the belief, yes belief 'that the pen is mightier than the sword'. This is precisely because education provides us (as members of society) with the skills, tools, and knowledge to function in fast changing technological societies. Clearly those who fail to seize the time soon find that they lack the vocational and intellectual skills to become employable, thus swelling the rank of the chronic unemployed.
The German sociologist, Max Weber wrote about social closure. By this he meant the strong tendency for social groups to seize upon certain social criteria as marks of distinction, and as a means of setting themselves apart from outsiders. These criteria include such things as gender, race, cultural background and nationality, educational level, and common occupation. By using some criteria to close themselves off from others, the members of a social group attempt to monopolize resources that will bring them economic success and social esteem. The worst example I can think of was the state organized slavery that became known as apartheid, where vast amount of money was spent on educating white children in South Africa and only a fraction was spent on African education.
Another vehicle of social closure is educational credential. The argument is that by achieving a certain level of education (possessing certain types of diploma) the members of a group hope to establish a minimum credential for entry into certain occupations with high payoffs in terms of privilege and prestige. In the context of the United States, this is what a British Sociologist, Frank Parkin has to say:
'Educational credentials have become the new property in America. That nation, which has attempted to make the transmission of real and personal property difficult, has contrived to replace it with an inheritable set of values concerning degrees and diplomas, which will most certainly reinforce the formidable class barriers that remain, even without the right within families to pass benefices to their children'.
Writers such as the French sociologist Pierre Bourdieu refer to this as cultural capital, which gives progenies of these groups some kind of head start in life. At the risk of being misunderstood, the above argument is not to suggest that educational credential is the only means of social closure. There are other means, some of which I have already referred to above. Pedro Noguera has recently argued that for Black males in the US education 'now increasingly serves as a primary agent for reproducing their marginality'.
The problem of the invisibility of Black men and young Black men in particular in public space has engaged the attention of researchers for a number of years. In the United States, Cornel West and Pedro Noguera have written of the 'crisis of the Black male', the endangered, at risk and marginalized group. Noguera has also drawn attention to the low number of African American males enrolled in higher educational institutions and has called for a supportive and nurturing environment in order to keep retention figures up. Incidentally, this is not an African American male problem, but an African Diaspora concern. Indeed, a few years ago I published a paper in the journal of the National Association of Black Social Workers, entitled: 'Ethnicity and Gender in Access Education: Some Comments on The Experiences of African-Caribbean Men Within the Academy'. This was followed up by a polemical piece with inspiration from the work of Cornel West, in the Journal of Social work Education, entitled, 'Nihilism and the Social Construction of Black Sexuality'. Both studies examined in the position of African Caribbean men in Britain.
Now, the absence of Black men in public spaces is mirrored by the over representation within the criminal justice system and within institutional psychiatry. Booker writes of the disproportional involvement of African American male within the criminal justice system; and the ever changing, yet ever-present process of "criminalisation” that has entrapped Black men through out history, thus creating a major barrier to their collective development. The Nehemiah Consulting Group has drawn attention to the fact that African American males are 14 times more likely to be murdered than their white counter parts.
Thus it might not seem such an exaggeration to talk of crisis of the Black male. In what follows I want to focus on three points:
Further evidence of the crisis
Implication for gender relationship
An attempt to explicate this situation away from the usual patronizing and anthologizing explanations based on demonizing the Black family and Black women in particular.
The Crisis
Noguera has pointed out that to talk of a crisis is to imply a deviation from a more stable norm, suggesting 'a period of temporary urgency, or even a short-term emergency, and not a prolonged persistent degenerative condition' (p.1). Whilst it is always easy to be nostalgic of a distant past, and the growth of a Black middle class in both Britain and the US tend to mask the problem of a crisis. However, there are some telling statistics. In Britain the unemployment rate among Black men is at least twice that of their White counterpart and they are underrepresented in professional and managerial position. According to Noguera the situation in the US is not much different. He noted that African American males earn on average 73% of the income of White males and that they too are underrepresented in the professional and managerial positions. In education on both sides of the Atlantic Black males are at least four times more likely than white males to be excluded from school and in the US 9 times more likely to be sent to special classes. In the US Noguera points to the decline in number of Black male entrants to colleges and universities. As he observed:
'For a growing numbers of Black males, prison rather than college is a more probable destination during adolescence and young adulthood. In 1995, one out of three Black males (versus one out of every 10 white males) between the ages of 18 and 30 were either incarcerated or in some way ensnared by the criminal justice system. …In California, the percentage recently increased to 40%…'
Implications for Gender Relations
Before looking at some explanatory reasons for the poor showing in educational achievement of Black males, we need to consider the gender implications. This is of course a very sensitive area, particularly as it involves personal relationships. Since both Britain and America are patriarchal societies, this new development raises a number of challenge issues. Patriarchal societies always assume a household headed by men: with men as the breadwinner and women's income at best supplementing the male income. Now since the evidence is pointing to Black women as heads of many households, this in itself is a challenge to domestic patriarchy. In my view any challenge to domestic or public patriarchy is to be welcomed. However, the fact that jobs are difficult to come by for Black males will inevitably produce status displacement in such relationships as well as the strain in the ability to carry out the essential functions of a partner and more important a father. In my view this is equivalent to the loss of status, which many working class men go through soon after retirement. The danger is that this process has a tendency to self reproduction as fathers who are busy hunting for 'non-existing' jobs will not be around either to help in the socialization of the offspring, thereby failing to provide a reference group for the young, who in turn may show anomic regards for the values of the group. Thus boys who come from household where only Mummy reads to them would soon realize that reading is gendered process and that the significant other (male) in his life, do not read. This soon becomes a self-perpetuating process. Already there are anecdotal evidences of intra-ethnic cross-gendered questioning of the status quo. Women complain of being tired with their double role as mothers, breadwinners and father-surrogates. In my view Black men in the Diaspora need to seek the spirit of Amistad. Segbe Pieh. They never gave up, they pooled together in the spirit of what Jomo Kemyatta used to call Harambee, meaning togetherness.
In this quest for Black men to fight back against the social exclusion and increase their self-worth, Black men will have to work with Black women as equal partners, in the manner in which Black feminists have noted that Black men have been their partners and protectors against racists and racism.
Trying to Explicate Black Male Educational Underachievement: Beyond Social Pathologies
The traditional or orthodox explanations of Black underachievement have tended to blame the victims of racism and to pathologies Black culture. This is true of the work of people Jensen (in the US) and Eysenck (in the UK) and other IQ testers who over- emphasize the role of heritage in educational achievement and down play the role of environmental factors. The problem with this type of analysis is that it is tautological: Black and working class people underachieve because they have poor pool of achievers; white people and middle class people overachieve because they have a high genetic pool to foster achievement.
Recently this rather circular argument has been resuscitated by the underclass theorists such as Charles Murray and Richard Herrnstein who not only point to what they saw as differential educational performance between African-American and White students. Using Armed Forces Qualification Test data for the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth they concluded that intelligence is distributed unequally among various ethnic groups. The poor educational achievement on the part of African American students is put down to hereditary factors. They went on to argue that there would be diminishing returns for African- Americans from the impact of additional years of education on earnings or intelligence. In their view social policy efforts designed to improve African American students' academic achievement through more years of education or affirmative action are waste of limited educational resources.
These findings are colonial and must be strongly rejected. They reminding of the 'backward slopping supply curve theory' invented by colonial anthropologists in the Dutch East Indies. (Explain). Clearly, such theories do not help policy makers other than to further marginalize vulnerable groups. In direct opposition to social pathologies I want to draw attention to explanations based on the social structural position of Black people within contemporary capitalist societies.
In the early 1980s the British Government commissioned a series of report (the Rampton and Swann Report) Education for All, which pointed differential attainment between White, African Caribbean and Asian children. In my view for the first time an official report put racism as an important causal factor in the underachievement of Black children. Other factors alluded to include: teachers' perception of Black kids; ethnocentric curriculum and the need for strong pastoral care for Black children. The result was an increase support for non-standard entrants to higher education, support for access programmes and minority languages in the curriculum and greater link between home and school.
In January 2002, one of the few African Caribbean women in the British Parliament, Ms Diane Abbott made an important intervention when she pointed to the fact (which many IQ testers and other social pathology theories fail to realize) that the educational achievements of Black boys in general at infant and junior schools continue to be high, and in many cases outstripping their white counterparts. However, by the time they arrive at secondary school, age 12 their performance fall dramatically, and the rate of exclusion rises dramatically. Ms Abbott's explanation is that the fact that Black boys on average tend to be bigger than their White counterparts fosters a persona, which seemingly appears intimidating to young White female teachers, who quickly interprets this as a sign of disobedience, insolence and aggression.
Diane Abbott's argument, which raises the question of the public persona of young Black men leads me on to my contention that the attack on Black intellectual ability can be explicated through an analysis of the concept of nihilism and the social construction of Black male sexuality. In my view this concepts have strong heuristic function in locating certain causal factors in black male educational underachievement.
According to Cornel West:
'Nihilism is to be understood …not as a philosophical doctrine that there are no rational grounds for legitimate standards or authority; it is far more, the lived experience of coping with a life of horrifying meaninglessness, hopelessness, and lovelessness. This notion of nihilism differs fundamentally from the Marxist notion of alienation. Though both are the product of capitalism, the former has a specific racial dimension. As West observes, it is the product of a fast paced market driven culture, which is obsessed with sex, and is fuelled white supremacist ideas relating to Black sexuality. The net effect is that it is deracinating and highly radicalized in its impacts. In this respect 'nihilism' is a much more severe threat than alienation, the generic product of capitalist oppression.
According to West nihilism produces 'a numbing detachment from others', 'a self-destructive disposition towards the world', and 'self-hatred' leading to life without meaning, hope, and love breed(ing) a cold hearted, mean-spirited outlook that destroys both the individual and others'. The visitation of nihilism is not new to African Diaspora conditioning. It was triggered off by the destructive effect of the slave trade, heightened by the brutality of the middle passage and institutionalized by the inhumanity of slavery. Yet in these early struggles, African people were able to construct and consolidate civil societies, communal networks, which not only offered meanings to their lives, but also created a barrier against collective self-destruction.
However, the impact of endemic white supremacist beliefs unleashed by imperialism led to the breaching of the cultural structures and institutions of Black civil society. By undermining traditional; values of sacrifice and selflessness among the poorest, in favor of hedonism, self-gratification and machismo, imperialism laid the basis for the demise of Black self-belief and spiritual enrichment. Of more significance is the fact that white supremacist thoughts and representations which permeate Western societies and culture, attack the intelligence and ability of Black people as well as Black beauty, leading to deep-seated anger and despair of Western sense of justice.
This attack on Black intellectual ability can be located within the realm of the social construction of Black sexuality, and the resulting caricature of Black sexuality from this contraction. Clearly knowledge of the social construction of Black sexuality holds an important key to an understanding of the nihilist threat, of which Black male educational under-achievement is a symptom. The analysis of Black sexuality is nothing new. A number of writers such as Eldridge Cleaver, Patricia Hill Collins, Robert Staples, Isaac Julien, Kobena Mercer and Cornel West have tried to analyze Black sexuality by locating how this affects the black condition. The problem with much of these writings is that they tend to be specific to either quest for a specific Black feminist perspective, (important as this project is with little reference to the Black male condition; or, when they relate to the latter, they tend to deal with issues of Black male sexual orientation, important though these issues are in societies riddles with homophobic and sexist hysteria.
In his writing on black sexuality, Cornel West draws attention to the disgust and rejection associated with black social spaces such as Black churches, mosques and Black families. He points out that: 'they obsessively condemned those places where Black sexuality were flaunted: the street, the clubs and dance halls'.
In the case of America, West argues that this avoidance of Black social spaces is the result of the premium Black institutions place on survival. The need for 'accommodation' with White America means that those Black institutions and individuals who threaten or subvert should be avoided. Thus he notes:
'…Struggling black institutions made a Faustian pact with White America: avoid any substantive engagement with Black sexuality and your survival on the margins of American society is at least, possible'.
If West's analysis is correct then, we will argue that here lays the Pandora box of Black oppression and underachievement, particularly black male underachievement. West's analysis owes its inspiration to the work of Cleaver, who argues that white America in its domination over Black America has tended to monopolize the Mind whilst relegating the Body to Black America. Thus, the all powerful white male Cleaver categorizes as the 'omnipotent Administrator' and the dis-empowered black male the 'Super masculine Menial', divested of mind, but overcompensated with Body, brute power, strength and muscles.Central to white racism is the fear of Black sexuality. As West has argued, this fear is premised on the fact that it is a source of Black empowerment, or as he puts it, it is 'a form of black power over which whites have little control…. it proceeds as if whites don't matter'.
Given this Manicheanism based on the social construction of Black sexuality, there are two major implications for black men. In the first place given the fact that they are socially invested with the Body, whilst being divested of Mind, this means that a Black male in the academy remains a contradiction. Secondly, the fear of Black sexuality means that the black male despite the association with muscles and brute power is denied the essence and seat of masculinity: sex.' This form of Black power is premised on black males 'stylizing their bodies over space and time in such a way that their bodies reflect their uniqueness and provoke fear in others.' Outside of this narrow stylistic arena, Black men are thought incapable of making any serious contributions. This is particularly true of young Black men within the Academy, that 'alien place' with a clear, but fixed ideas of who belongs, and who can benefit from its deliberations.
The 'Alien' Academy
Many African Caribbean men who fail to complete their undergraduate programmes talk of the 'pressure', and the fact that they felt alienated within these institutions. For them the ethos and values of the institution do not validate their lived experiences. Some express the view that the institution 'was not yet ready for black men.' When asked to explain this assertion, the student noted, what is happening out there is not taken seriously around here (the University). Many Black men have to carry the baggage of out there, largely to do with racial and gender stereotypes e.g. Stop & Search. Their over-representation within criminal statistics often catches up on them as lectures are missed because of court appearance. It is important to note that not all issues surrounding Black men in the academy are race centered; there are issues of class and in some cases nationality. Thus one can envisage a situation in which Black middle class youngsters would be better prepared to deal with life in a racist academy.
Ladies and gentlemen, our young people need to dig deep and with the spirit of the Amistad they will find the basis of a new dawn.
Alfred Zack-Williams is from Sierra Leone. He is a professor of Sociology and he teaches in the Department of Historical and Critical Studies at the University of Central Lancaster, UK. He is also a member of the Editorial Board of the Review of African Political Economy (ROAPE), United Kingdom.
Subject: Indeed Alieu Iscandari Is a Practising Lawyer In Calbar
From: Low Grade San San
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Date Posted: 10:58:23 08/12/08 ()
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Name Iscandari, Alieu Muhammad
Status Active
Admission 184307
City Oakland
Date December 1996.
http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_search.aspx?ms=Alieu+iscandri
"Does that mean Alieu Iscandri is also not a practising lawyer in Cali? I did a search for him and nothing came up" Komgoba
Now, can you please show me Lawyer Falleys details as a practising Lawyer in the California bar?
Low Grade San San
Subject: LGSS you are killing a dead rat
From: Jacob Kanu
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Date Posted: 12:36:37 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: jacob.kanu@yahoo.com
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I hope you are not as idle as you are purporting to be. Who cares whether the Boss is registered or not?
Boss Gus does not need to register as a lawyer to satisfy your obsession about him. He holds an LLM from a very reputable institution. This brainy Sierra Leonean single handedly whopped racist FBI agents who wanted to set him up. He voluntarily left a PhD programme to pursue a lucrative career in the US. He rose to successfully head a whole department for over a decade - till the racists decided to go after him. Surely you must have heard how he eloquently and brilliantly disgraced the prosecuting DA.
Lets stop this unnecessary petty bickering and jealousy and focus on the big picture. I would rather like you to focus on the ongoing corruption and cocaine traficking by some low lives in the current government, than attempting to crucify a modern day Shengbe Pieh who beat corrupt white agents who think all negroes are stupid.
Gus remains an African hero, and way above this petty pikin slander by idle and jealous Sierra Leoneans. And hey young man... they don't call him Boss for nothing.
Get a life, find something more rewarding to do, OK?
Subject: Re: LGSS you are killing a dead rat
From: Advice
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Date Posted: 13:35:56 08/12/08 ()
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If Fallay is not admitted to the California bar, why not just acknowledge that fact? No need to get bent out of shape accepting a fact. You can still praise Fallay to your heart's delight. Heck, you can also malin the APC. Just don't expect your opinions to be accepted as facts.
Subject: Whats your freaking point Mr Advisor
From: Jacob Kanu
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Date Posted: 14:24:01 08/12/08 ()
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Are you one of those Pull Him Down- Low-esteem Sierra Leoneans or you are just looking for a brawl. By the way all opinions mentioned in the post you refer to are facts.
Does Sierra leone not have an ongoing Cocaine trafficking problem under the APC, with Minister kemoh sesay, EBK's close ally's fingerprints all over it? Which planet are you on?
Has Kolonko Dada Serry Kamal, not signed on behalf of the APC gof'ment to pay $25M to Wanza,whilst Port Loko nurses can't even get their monthly $30 they have worked for?
Does Boss Gus not have an LLM and headed a major decision making department in Calif?
What the f@%k is your problem bigot?
Tell me, Mr Friend... will Gus being a registered lawyer or not improve your life or add to your misery? Well I have news for you, he is stronger than ever just in his prime.
Go hang yourself or jump in a lake, OK?
Subject: Re: This might help you
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Date Posted: 06:37:46 08/13/08 ()
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Like I said, try to accept facts, all facts not just those facts you like. That is my point. I will leave you to figure out who is doing the Pull Him Down and partisanship tango and looking for confrontation. (Hint: read your post.)
Subject: Jacob Kanu will be charged for using "deadly weapon"!
From: Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas
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Date Posted: 16:21:37 08/12/08 ()
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Jacob Kanu will be charged for using "deadly weapon"!
Subject: Chief ooh Chief.... please drop the charge; I am guilty...
From: Jacob Kanu
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Date Posted: 03:46:15 08/13/08 ()
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Guilty as charged sir.
In plea Chief, please consider that the victim unnecessarrily attacked an innocent citizen. S/he attacked a role model for Africans the world over who whopped racist and feared colonial agents; a few corrupt FBI chaps who like beating on innocent negroes, just because they can. We all can learn that even the 'devil' can be floored, as the Boss of bosses demonstrated in a court of law.
All self respecting Sierra leoneans must have no patience for these "small small' arata-Uncle Toms, hiding behind political colours, to defame brilliant and hardworking country men who rise in foreign lands, just because they are in another Party. And believe me chief, I only used my fake WMD (weapons of mouse destruction). My real WMD(weapons of mass destruction) is reserved only for the big boys - not these small fries.
We should not encourage folks with zero national self-esteem (as Bra E would put it). When they raise their ugly heads, we should hammer and bury them back in the sand... keep them their till they asphyxiate.
I rest my case Chief.
Subject: very effective closing argument...charges dropped!
From: CHIEF IN EXILE
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Date Posted: 09:16:12 08/13/08 ()
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Guilty as charged sir.
In plea Chief, please consider that the victim unnecessarrily attacked an innocent citizen. S/he attacked a role model for Africans the world over who whopped racist and feared colonial agents; a few corrupt FBI chaps who like beating on innocent negroes, just because they can. We all can learn that even the 'devil' can be floored, as the Boss of bosses demonstrated in a court of law.
All self respecting Sierra leoneans must have no patience for these "small small' arata-Uncle Toms, hiding behind political colours, to defame brilliant and hardworking country men who rise in foreign lands, just because they are in another Party. And believe me chief, I only used my fake WMD (weapons of mouse destruction). My real WMD(weapons of mass destruction) is reserved only for the big boys - not these small fries.
We should not encourage folks with zero national self-esteem (as Bra E would put it). When they raise their ugly heads, we should hammer and bury them back in the sand... keep them their till they asphyxiate.
I rest my case Chief.
Subject: What would life be like without the GREAT JACOB KANU!
From: Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas
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Date Posted: 12:48:33 08/12/08 ()
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I daresay you hit the nail on the head as if you used some high-tech precision instrument.
This is what I call, "Jacob Kanu LANDS A STUNNING UPPERCUT"!
Subject: Re: What would life be like without the GREAT JACOB KANU!
From: Taveh Gutu
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Date Posted: 04:44:48 08/13/08 ()
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What makes that infernal nuissance great?
Doc bo doo yaah nor bring laff nar berring hose!
Subject: Sierra Leone could benefit from an "IMANI-LIKE THINK-TANK".
From: Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas
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Date Posted: 09:53:41 08/12/08 ()
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Bright B. Simons, is an Imani Non-resident Scholar with additional responsibility for its external communications and development. Imani is a think-tank based in Accra dedicated to researching economic trends to glean practical public-policy insights for the benefit of government, business and civil society in Ghana.
Subject: JOINT LETTER TO LORD PHILIPS AND DR.ROWAN WILLIAMS.
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
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Date Posted: 09:50:18 08/12/08 ()
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JOINT COMMUNICATION TO:
THE LORD CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE UNITED KINGDOM AND WALES,
HIS LORDSHIP JUSTICE LORD PHILIPS OF MATRAVERS.
THE ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY AND YORK,
THE VERY REVREND DR.ROWAN WILLIAMS.
SUBJECT:POSITION STATEMENTS ON SHARIA LAWS TO BE PRACTICED BY MUSLIMS IN THE UNITED KINGDOM:
This letter to your august leadership of the two institutions coming from a non citizen of the UK is rather very unusual for it is not the practice of outsiders to tell higher authorities what to do especially if they have no standing in the issues involved.
Not withstanding that however gentlemen,I have though it expedient to circumvent the convoluted protocol that is shrouded around your offices to engage your attention on issues you are reported to have opined which frankly I find most disturbing especially coming from people of such august positions such as yourselves.
On a visit with a friend of mine from the UK to the British Chancery, we were seated in the visitor’s reception area waiting to be ushered into the presence of the First Secretary when I started perusing some of the papers on the center table.
A particular paper caught my attention .While browsing through,I read a statement first by Dr.Williams in which he has proposed that “SHARIA LAW”should be practiced in the UK by Muslims to resolve their problems.
The same paper reported that the Lord Chief Justice visited a Mosque in East London and accentuated the very obnoxious position by the Archbishop Dr.Williams.
Gentlemen,to say I was petrified or still petrified by such outrageous and irresponsible claptraps from people of ypur positions conveys nothing because up to this day,I remain absolutely mumbled jumbled by the very thought ot it,let alone the far reaching ramifications of such proposal.
First,let me address Dr.Williams personally on this issue.
Like I said,I am not a citizen of the UK but nonetheless apart from the occasional visits I take there,I have spent considerable time and energy studying everything on Britain especially her institutions such as the Mornachy,the Parliaments of the Commons,and Lords,the armed forces,and the Foreign Service and I can relate very much to the political history of the UK.
I have also followed the teachings of four of your predecessors,
Michael Ramsey,
Donald Coggan,
Robert Runcie,
George Carey,and now you.I find your supplications and philosophies way out of the main stream of the British tradition as exemplified by your support of the installation of a gay Bishop here in the USA the Rev.Eugene Roberson which I find most disgusting to say the least.I was not at all surprised when it led to schism in the Anglican community.Now to turn around and suggest an infusion of foreign culture which will only conterminate the British way of life is without conscience.
I think your position may have been expressed out of ignorance of what the Sharia law advocates and the untold damages done to victims who violate the codes.In that regard,I will respectfully suggest you take a sabbatical and visit places like Saudi Arabia,Pakistan,Afghanistan, or Nigeria,live in any household that strictly adheres to the Sharia codes,perhaps you will take back your words.
To His Lordship the Chief Justice,Lord Philips,I think since your appointment as the highest official of the court in 2005,you have followed in the same liberal traditions of your predecessor Lord Chief Justice Woolf, and another ultraliberal Lord Justice Denning who became the law to themselves always ruling outside the main stream of Judicial norms.
Your Lordship I think the problem inherent in the British legal system via the Judiciary has to do with the fact that there are not set of principles governing the conduct of jurists in the application of the laws.It does appear to me Your Lordship that Justices are at liberty to interpret the laws as they see fit.In the United States of America,such scenarios are referred to as “JUDICIAL ACTIVISM”that is totally unacceptable.
A case in point to buttress my argument.Mr.Robert Bork was Solicitor General during the Nixon Watergate saga.Heticipated in the ousting of the special prosecutor who was in charge of the case on the orders of Richard Nixon.That became the bane that stood between him and a seat on the Supreme Court when Ronald Wilson Reagan nominated him to the court several years later.The Senate soundly rejected his nomination because they felt he was too much of a politician who will be tempted to impose his political philosophy on the court.
In the UK,Justices from what I have read so far do not submit to rigorous scrutiny from any committee either in the Commons or Lords.Once the Prime Minister and his Lord Chancellor agree on a candidate,the name is submitted to Her Majesty the Queen who by constitutional convention will not refuse to approve of the nominee.That explains why Tony Blair brought his friend along as Lord Chancellor when he became Prime Minister.Lord Falconer in turn had no problem agreeing with Tony Blair for you being recommended for the post once Lord Woolf retired.
The long and short of this argument is that Sharia law is untenable for the British culture and tradition and it violates every essential elements of humanity when applied in its extreme forms which I would prefer not to recapitulate.
In a world dominated by evil doers in the name of custom and tradition,I think any law other than the standard ones now in place are totally unacceptable,unhealthy,and to an extent,it is a subtle form of apartheid .Leaving together but with separate different modus operandi.
Your Lordship,I think finally,people like you and Dr.Williams are not only a disgrace to your selves,but to the British culture,tradition,and way of life and a threat to the liberty and freedom enjoyed by the British citizens under one common law.Those who want to hold on to their outdated custom,tradition,and belief should return to their home lands where they are free to indulge in those customs and practices.If they however elect to live in some body else’s country,they have no choice but to go along with everything that obtains in their place of domain.
Finally I think for the good,and national security of the UK, the two of you should be removed from your positions, stripped of your citizenships,and sent to live with Osama Bin Laden or the rulers in Saudi Arabia only then will you appreciate what is it to be a Britisher.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Re: JOINT LETTER TO LORD PHILIPS AND DR.ROWAN WILLIAMS.
From: yankuba Kai-Samba
To: All
Date Posted: 12:35:28 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: y020855@yahoo.co.uk
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Dear Kutubu
I was initialy shocked when Rowlan Williams first made that pronouncement about accomodating the sharia laws in UK penal jurisdiction. The entire British tabloid news paper lambasted the archbishop and some even called for his removal.
Rolan william is certainly considered as a lettered man of supreme intellect. You will understand that these sorts of creatures are always prone to say things that can be perceived as crazy.
But on a critical look at what the two guys said regarding the subject matter, one need to excuse them. It is the entire state to be blames and the liberal establishment obsession with human rights.
My interpretation of the statement made by both gentlemen, one a clergy and the other a lawyer is that the muslim community should apply some sharia laws within their community but that it should not conflict with the British legal systems and where conflict arises the British law is suprime.
Furthermore, the application of the sharia law will be and limited in scope. Things like family dispute and divorce, which are civil in nature, can be settled in the muslim community by the parties involved so long as they agree to it. Such things as stoning and amputation of limbs were not part of Rowlands thinking.
The problem facing the UK, I presume unlike the USA, is that we are obsessed with human rights and equality and diversity.
Some ethnic groups and scholars are now pointing fingers at the British liberal establishment for the high level of indicipline, juvinile delinquency and crimes in the cities. Criminals in UK are treated with gloves for fear of breaching their human rights.
The concept of equality and diversity as practiced in the UK, is at the heart of what Rowland williams and lord philips said and any disagreement should be inspected within the meanings of that concept.
This policy recognised that Britain is now a diversed community with many different ethnic groups and cultures including religions. These differences are to be respected and celebrated to enrich our British culture.
Thus what Rolan Willams and Philips have done is the extension and recognition of the rights for these diversed communities to practice their own ways of life so long as it did not violate the Laws of UK.
Work places, offices especially government offices are oblidged to provide a prayer room for their muslim employees and managers should ensure they adjust their times whereever possible for them to take their prayers.
My work place has a prayer rooms for muslims but no similar facilities for christians. This is because muslims laws demand five prayers a day. It is not the same with christians.
The policies of equality and diversity means that people are not treated differently when in similar circumstances but can be treated differently when not in similar circumstances. The fact is that members of the diversed minorities in UK are making good use of the policies that encourages different practices that competes with the main culture.
This is raising concerns because deversity is leading to separateness, which many argues is undermining the British core values. There is clearly some insepient tension.
It is also presenting an intriguing socio-political and legal debates with the ethnic and mainstream academic community.
Regards
Sorry I have to catch my train.
Subject: Re: JOINT LETTER TO LORD PHILIPS AND DR.ROWAN WILLIAMS.
From: London Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 11:11:52 08/12/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Did you actually post this rubbish?
I honestly hope not, because they will simply laugh at you.Your limitations will be exposed.
That is the danger about Sierra leoneans, we always rely on half-Knowledge.
What do you know about the British Legal system? Do you know that what was been discussed is alredy been practised here in the United Kingdom? Do you know that the Jews equally carry out similar religious practices here in the United kingdom.
When a man as eminent as Lord Phillips supports an idea and try to explain the same, some low minded idiot like you should simply read and learn.
Muslims are part of the British soociety and Culture, and they are simply trying to excercise those rights.
Since you don't live in the United Kingdom, it is a waste of time even writing this.
goodbye.
Subject: Re: JOINT LETTER TO LORD PHILIPS AND DR.ROWAN WILLIAMS.
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 20:44:44 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: mohamedkoroma49@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-241-236-103.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.241.236.103
Message:
OPEN LETTER TO "LONDON BOY"
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Sir,usually,i do not get into the colligiate battle of the brains designed to match wits with folks of your ilk that we in the USA often refer to in derogatory terms as "TEDDY BOYS"living on welfare in London in council subsidized housing projects.
You are absolutely correct,i do not live in the UK which i have no regrets for.I will never trade the USA for a place like London.Nothing impresses me about the UK in general and London in particular.I have lots of relatives living there from Peckham to the slumiest.
On a very serious note though,i think i am in a far better position to educate you on every aspect of the UK.Take it or leave it.To prove that,i will give you simple quize on the very London you claim to live and believe me,you will never make it.
Coming back to Justice Philips,and the rest of the folks i named in my piece,i am by far familiar with their works than you because i have serious readinds on them.
I understand your fraustrations but the fact of the matter simply is that fellows like Philips,Denning,and Woolf with their judicial myopia will never sit on any courts in the USA because they are totally unfit.I have read rulings by all three of them believe me they are palpably sorrowful for people who called themselves jurists.
That is all i have to say to you and please have a restful night,and next time,use your correct identity.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Re: JOINT LETTER TO LORD PHILIPS AND DR.ROWAN WILLIAMS.
From: Professor
To: All
Date Posted: 07:58:59 08/13/08 ()
Email Address:
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The great novelist Hanif Kureishi on the Archbishop of Canterbury's Sha'ria comments
From the New York Times
BACK AT THE CAFE IN SHEPHERD’S BUSH, I asked Kureishi about some vexing recent developments that received a lot of attention in the British press: a state agency for assessing public religious schools had given a top rating to a Muslim school that was advocating a return to the Caliphate; the interior minister at the time, Jack Straw, came under fire for suggesting that it might be difficult for a community-relations functionary to meet with constituents who wear a full veil; an Indian woman living in England was lured back to India and murdered in an honor killing; the archbishop of Canterbury said he thought England might consider making some accommodation for Shariah, or Islamic law. What, I wondered, did Kureishi make of all this?
“There aren’t any answers to these questions,” he replied. “They’re just questions that everybody has to engage in and think about. What is it like to make a multicultural society? How far do you go in multiculturalism? Do you have parts of the country under Shariah law, for instance? What would that mean? How does that work? You have to take this stuff seriously.”
Kureishi told me that he and Stephen Frears, who remains a close friend, sometimes used to joke about what would happen if Shariah law were to come to the “godless” people of Dorset, where Frears has a country house. Then came the archbishop of Canterbury’s widely criticized — and arguably misunderstood — remarks. Still, Kureishi said, the idea that the archbishop is pondering “the imposition of medieval law on parts of the English countryside” is “hilarious.”
Subject: Dr. Nnadi Azikiwe versus Dr Kwame Nkrumah, who got it right?
From: Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas
To: All
Date Posted: 09:41:16 08/12/08 ()
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"...Alhaji Sir Taffawa Balewa, Nigeria’s post-independence leader described Nkrumah’s conduct of foreign relations from Accra as ‘’the madness in Ghana’’. He was merely echoing the disaffection the Nigerian political elite felt about the state of affairs in Ghana dating back to Nnamdi Azikiwe’s famous bust-up with Nkrumah over the federalist/confederalist argument when both men were pan-African student activists in London in the late 40s. Azikiwe was a confederalist, which these days will probably make him a ‘’regionalist’’. He wanted Africa to unite step by step through intermediate blocs. So he proposed a union of English-speaking countries in West Africa after independence. Nkrumah of course will have none of this. We all know the speech: ‘’Ethiopia will stretch forth its hand…Africa Must Unite!’’. He wanted a federal project or nothing: common unity for all Africa’s peoples regardless of colonial-imposed differences including language..."
(Who Betrayed Osagyefo Kwame Nkrumah?
By: Simons, Bright B., (2007-04-12)
By Bright B. Simons, Imani Non-resident Scholar)
Subject: Can Africa ever unite?
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 10:41:16 08/12/08 ()
Email Address:
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Can we ever really achieve unity in Africa when there is so much ethnic tension and entropy in all African countries, even the tiniest ones like Gambia? The intra- and intercountry fires are killing Africa slowly, painfully, surely. We can only hope that the Rwandan and Congolese nightmares and their copycats are a a thing of the past. We hope that the Club Med of African presidents and despots, the AU, will one day change into an instrument of real integration and development on the continent.
Subject: Re: Can Africa ever unite?
From: KLA
To: All
Date Posted: 11:44:38 08/12/08 ()
Email Address:
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"We hope that the Club Med of African presidents and despots, the AU, will one day change into an instrument of real integration and development on the continent". .......UL
The current AU is not a perfect institution.It is, however, evolving into a major Global organization with the clout and mandate to execute the Pan Africanist ideas of the likes of ITA Wallace Johnson from Sierra leone.ITA, a mentor to NKRUMAH,lost his life in GHANA!!
Subject: Re: Can Africa ever unite?
From: Dr. C. Curtis-Thomas
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Date Posted: 10:54:08 08/12/08 ()
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"...Can we ever really achieve unity in Africa when there is so much ethnic tension and entropy in all African countries, even the tiniest ones like Gambia?"
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________
"...The greatest generator of incentives for individual effort and participation that history has even known is the Free Market. We must seek the economic kingdom of individual liberty before we embark on a search for the political kingdom of common unity.
Therefore, while we accept Osagyefo’s exhortation: ‘’Africa Must Unite’’! We must humbly also add: ‘’But First, Africans Must Unite’’!"
Subject: Re: Can Africa ever unite?
From: Jacob Kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 14:00:45 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: jacob.kanu@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
I think its a tall order, but we must die trying. 'Only a united Africa can redeem its past glory, renew and reinforce its strength for the realisation of its destiny'
Free market is a useful tool in the quest...but definitely not a pre-requisite. In my humble opinion, I think unflinching political will, will be the most potent agent for a genuine African Union. And this is what makes it a tall order.
Unless Africa gets a significant number of serving Presidents/leaders who value unconditional integration more than potential individual benefits, a genuine union will remain elusive. Bluntly put, we will need African leaders like Nkrumah, Samora Machel, Thomas Sankara, William du Bois, Jomo Kenyatta, Robert Sobukwe, Patrice Lumumba, Barack Obama and a few more - all active during the same period.
Then and only then will we get to the 'promised land'.
P/s
Did I hear the Chief in Exile mention EBK? Astafullai, EBK cannot even define Pan-Africanism, let alone understand it.
Subject: Re: Can Africa ever unite?
From: bobsonmans
To: All
Date Posted: 15:42:24 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: bobsonmans69@btinternet.com
Entered From: 5ac0b03a.bb.sky.com at 90.192.176.58
Message:
Can Africa Unite? Let the tribes of Sierra Leone unite first. Now let me try to be less cynical.I live in the EU and the history of european integration should provide a useful lesson to anyone with a desire or dream to move Africa forward. A top-down approach is not going to work where all the countries form a union and then work out how they can cooperate closely. Rather a few core of african countries with a good record of governance, econonomic performance and accountability should first cooperate closely in the areas of custom, trade and immigration and if that works they can then take it from there to a higher level of integration. As the benefits of integration are accrued, benchmarks should then be set which other interested african counties should aim for if they are to join the african club. As at present only few african countries are fit to join the african union as per the above criteria. Candidates of my choice will be Botswana, South Africa, Mauritius, Ghana, Tunisia, Senegal,Namibia. To be honest, i think only regional groupings in Africa can cpe with the global challenges of trade, foreign direct invsetment and energy security which is a prerequisite for economic development.
Subject: Re: Can Africa ever unite?
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 23:43:14 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: saigobe@lanset.com
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Message:
Please go to www.coaforum.com/festival.htm
Thanks.
Yaya Fanusie, Founder-coaforum.com
Subject: AN EXCELLENT EXCELLENCY!
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 09:07:27 08/12/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
President Ernest Bai Koroma,
Here are some of the things you can do to get things cracking again, to remove the bad taste some of our ministers have inflicted in your supporters buccal cavities....
1) It's almost one year since you ascended the presidency. 20% of your term has already evaporated. Take a good look at what has been accomplished and which opportunities have been blown. Get a gut check of your inner convictions and be cognizant of how you want history to treat you. Take action.
2) Make a prime time speech to the nation to express your indignation and disgust at the cocaine criminality and make it absolutely clear that anyone caught in the investigative dragnet will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, be he a Minister or a Kaka Bailer. This is very important because it will squelch opposition charges and growing public gossip and rumour that you are somehow involved in this mess. Presidential outrage and a muscular smackdown on the facilitators and accomplices of this crime are absolutely needed to beat down these vile innuendoes.
3) Put your stamp of authority on the government. Fire Serry Kamal for misbehaving in the cocaine investigation; for rudely interfering in the ACC investigation of the Press Attache to London and for signing shady extraparliamentary deals that are going to cost the country millions of bucks, and probably pocket him some cool kickback. AG Kamal must realize that his towering ambition should not be allowed to besmirch the government's reputation and derail efforts to make Salone a better place. If he wants to challenge you for the presidency, he should quit now and go for it during the APC convention in 2004/2005.
4) Enforce Cabinet discipline.
Choose someone in the Cabinet to make sure that all ministers are on the same page in carrying out your agenda. Take a close look at your Ministers. The minister of Employment, what serious ideas for job creation has he come up with? The minister of Health? The Minister of Mines? The Minister of Agriculture? Trade and Industry? Education.......Are these people just wearing sunglasses at Lumley Beach and sipping Pina Coladas?
5) Youth Employment.
Youths have been ignored by nearly all governments in Sierra Leone, to their eternal regret. The CDs are already rolling off the press. Angry musical denunciations by Emmerson, Dry Yie Crew and others helped sink the Kabba Presidency and Berewa's chances. APC can do better.
Since we do not have investors flooding Salone with money and job opportunities, government must fill the void and at least try to do something. Choose professional businessmen in the diaspora or Salone to form a job corps for youths. Young people can be gainfully employed in sanitation: to clean streets, gutters, and in road maintenance. Agriculture is also another area of opportunity. I know that these jobs are not glamorous; but they will give our young people something to do and, politically, they make as much sense as the commendable electricity that your government brought to Freetown.
More non-euphonious suggestions later. All the best Mr. President.
Subject: Uman Lappa, a true patriot
From: APC Man
To: All
Date Posted: 09:38:34 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: abusesay1999@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.228.29
Message:
You are a very serious minded APC supporter. Sadly you are in the minority and may be soon attacked by the majority unpatriotic elements.
If Agnes listens to your very sensible suggestions, he might just get a few points on my score card. Right now he is 1/20 and implementing your apt suggestions might even take him over borderline.
It seems this post will be another magnet for the unpatriotic elements within the APC.
Anyway UL, compliments for putting country before party. And don't be intimidated by fools who suggest you should become a simplistic batoliner - most, simply lack conscience (excuse me for the 'bad language', as the fake Paa Kabbah would say.
Keep it up Big Fella
Subject: Re: Uman Lappa, a true patriot
From: CO of the CTA....
To: All
Date Posted: 10:46:47 08/12/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Yeah yeah...
For he is a jolly cool fella..
For he is a jolly cool fella..
APC man..
The APC cyber SSD's are plentiful but this man Uman Lappa is a Sandhurst trained military officer..
Diciplined and stout..
Noto fontoba SSD lek dull cadaver..
Subject: Re: Uman Lappa, a true patriot
From: Taveh Gutu
To: All
Date Posted: 15:14:54 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-235-239.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.235.239
Message:
Paddy the hard-hitting Smart Cavalier is a Sheriff cum Five-Star General whose mission is to give you and your infamous SLPP bootlicking bandwagon sleepless nights.
Subject: Re: Uman Lappa, a true patriot
From: zakmal
To: All
Date Posted: 15:09:23 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-178-202-84.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.178.202.84
Message:
Uman Lappa You are one of a kind in our midst who seems to care more about mother salone than having access to the powers that be. I have been following your posts since when you were mammy blessing to fen plaba and now the infamous Uman Lappa. Your intellect and vision never change with your ever so changing monikers to our delight.
I hope more APC stalwarts would emulate your lead and drop the kool aid.
I hope our president would listen to folks like you and brabanxx. He needs to clean house and it should happen now before it's too late. His detractors are accumulating power and wealth at his expense and they would not be restrained to make a move against him. Serry Kamal and the rest of the ministers you mentioned signed a so called performance contract some time ago,what a waste of time.
Why is it that this government in a year in power there is no official website of the office of the president and all the major ministries and even the hapless parliament doesn't have one. What a shame.
The usual mantra of successive government is the government is broke. What a lie to be perpetrating on the people?The country has enough dollars to payoff Wanza,Kadi and who knows who else. Give me a break.
Stay blessed brother.
Subject: MKK and Sharia
From: Almamy Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 07:13:47 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: static-71-249-186-75.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.249.186.75
Message:
Kt MKK,
Sharia is coming and no one can stop though attempts would be made to slow down or stop its pace.
Note that every muslim is obligated to live by Sharia
Many muslim though would like to understand the Quran better (which will minimize misleading interpretations)
and that cannot be stopped by any force on earth...
I think the two senior UK voices are preparing UK for the future
Subject: Re: MKK and Sharia
From: zakmal
To: All
Date Posted: 08:00:19 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
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Message:
Sharia law can only take hold in the western countries that are filled with self hate. Why aren't you advocating rule of law in some of these countries that are now praticing sharia.There is a double standard and it sickens me. I wonder what would be the reaction of the world if the west decide to impose the old testament on its people and the rest of the world. I am a muslim but sharia law is not for me.Why should a rape victim have three male witnesses to confirm that a rape occurred?Why is it that a female is not allowed to drive?Why is it that a female should hijab when such garb predates islam.
The two UK officials are enemy within and they would be sorry for the day they broach such a idiotic proposal.Totalititarianism should be resisted at all levels. Sharia law is totalitirianism.
Subject: Re: MKK and Sharia
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 09:18:07 08/12/08 ()
Email Address:
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And the worst thing is that they will cut off your 'lamepay' if you do the wild thing with a beautiful woman who is not your wife? Damn!!!
I bet you many Sierra Leoneans would have had their nuts sliced off by now had we had Sharia. Dis Sharia tin nor good O! How can people think up such wicked laws?
Subject: If Sharia is introduced in Salone, we will never have a govt
From: Jacob Kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 10:30:37 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: jacob.kanu@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 41.204.224.41
Message:
Believe me guys if Sharia is introduced in Salone, we will never have a government. All our presidents and most ministers, past and present will have their 'lamepay' cut off (to borrow UL's phrase) in a matter of days in office, if not before. And as for the young ones coming after them... well well well...
Anyway, on a more serious note cultural differences make Sharia absolutely inappropriate for some countries like Sierra Leone and the UK.
However, I don't have a problem with people voluntarily asceding to practice it on an individual basis... as long as they are not going to impose it on other folks who do not want it. Operationalising such a selective legislation scheme will be extremely difficult. I think the UK politicians are just playing politics for imminent elections. Sharia in UK? You gotta be joking.
A good number of Muslims in Salone are very tolerant, forward looking and quite liberal. The proof is usually during Ramadan month, when bars become so boring because a good number of the jovial regulars are asidiously fasting. I have been told that even when there is no light one can still get a cold beer during the holy month. This will dramatically change though when the holy period is over. Also having inter-religious marriages is not a major issue in Salone at all.
I'll therefore go with Zack and UL, lets keep Sharia out of Salone for now.
Subject: Re: If Sharia is introduced in Salone, we will never have a
From: The Five-Star General Smart Cavalier
To: All
Date Posted: 06:48:45 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-235-239.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.235.239
Message:
If I have my way I will introduce Sharia in Sierra Leone just for people like you. You either come to Sierra Leone for visits and get your mischievous butt whipped for making passes at women, get your phalanges chopped off for uncontrollable kleptomania or stay in the west where there is a no-holds-barred situation.
Subject: Re: If Sharia is introduced in Salone, we will never have a govt
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 12:00:28 08/12/08 ()
Email Address:
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Operationalising such a selective legislation scheme will be extremely difficult.......JK
This reminds me of a story I recently came across. One of the northern states in Nigeria has Sharia which is strictly imposed on the majority Muslim population. The minority Christians are exempted from it. One day the Morality Police caught this big fella with his pants down, sweatingly doing practical Biology on this nubile, large rumped, doe-eyed maiden. The young man and the woman were dragged off to the Sharia court for "commiting immoral acts" against the laws of Islam. The punishment for their amorous adventure, if convicted, was death by stoning and/or "cutting it off" in the case of the man.
Verdict: They both escaped punishment.
HOW?
The woman claimed that she was tending to her daily chores when she accidentally fell down and a "chuk-chuk" pierced her right in the....mound of Mounds. She was, however, eternally grateful to this nice young man who was valiantly trying to remove the thorn with hand, mouth and spoon when the Morality Police descended upon them and dragged them off to court.
The gentleman, for his part, claimed that he was only doing the Christian thing by helping a lady in distress. Infact he was offended by the charges of immorality.
"But how come you are claiming to be a Christian today when you pray five times a day in the mosque and also do the 'Salat', the Muslim call to prayer?", asked the judge suspiciously.
"Oh, I became a Christian yesterday, after I had a vision", the young man cooly replied and proceeded to loudly recited the Lord's prayer several times.
Not guilty.
Subject: Re: MKK and Sharia
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 10:00:25 08/12/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: s100-masq.iptelsl.net at 83.229.112.20
Message:
Nar dat mek you TOLOLI for dae nar you Trusis.. Sharia is not bad at all.....We need am nar salone for dem ANYAMPI/AKATA nar we Government Institutions.
Subject: Re: MKK and Sharia
From: Uman Lappa
To: All
Date Posted: 10:07:05 08/12/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Pordoh! Alieu, if dae bring Sharia nar Salone, you will be the first to burn your passport and change your citizenship. Wallahi!
Subject: Re: MKK and Sharia
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 10:10:21 08/12/08 ()
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The only thing wae Sharia go Catch me pan Nar OOman bizness.. apart from dat.. man good.
Subject: Re: MKK and Sharia
From: longhorn
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Date Posted: 09:01:26 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: longhorn1978@live.com
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Have you ever lived in a country whose legal system is sharia??? where women are not allowed to work or participate in politics ask the Afgans, Saudi's maybe they can better explain
Subject: Re: MKK and Sharia
From: Almamy Seray-Wurie Si
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Date Posted: 08:56:21 08/12/08 ()
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Saudi Arabia is one among very few muslim countries where women do not drive...its not Sharia
You cannot be muslim if Sharia is not for you
You may not like some bits of Sharia
You are free to follow something different from what you see as totalitarian
Like I said muslims (include myself) have to understand the Quran more (Quran Study) to limit wrong intepretations
Subject: Re: MKK and Sharia
From: zakmal
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Date Posted: 09:38:37 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
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That's what I'm talking about when I mentoned totalitarianism as demonstrated by your response to my post. You assert that I cannot be a muslim if sharia is not for me.
I would advise you to take a look at Tunisia,Malaysia,Turkey and to a lesser degree the United Arab Emirates to see the advancment of these countries. Sharia law is heartless and babaric.
I hope you are not praticing it presently as you would be dissappointed to learn that the advocates of these laws are bunch of hypocrites.
Some of them are now spending their summer with their families in Marbella,Spain or Sitzerland,gulping down down hard liquor and in the company of high priced prostitutes.
Subject: APC's KEMOH SESAY WAS IN VENEZUELA-WHY?
From: Dr. John Paul Cole
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Date Posted: 04:52:44 08/12/08 ()
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Few months before this COCAINE SAGA, Our disgraced Minister went to CARACAS to sign a MOU, so as to allow Aircrafts from Venezuela to make Un-INTERRUPTED flights to Lungi International...
Before he came back, he deposited huge amounts of GREENS in his foreign accounts.....
Hmmm dis one.....
Subject: EBK : briefed on several occasions about APC's cocaine mess
From: British Diplomat
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Date Posted: 05:47:26 08/12/08 ()
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EBK's complicity in the cocaine saga is troubling to even the International Community. Several facts are now emerging:
1. He used a lot of Cocaine sponsorship money for his presidential bid
2. Even when Acha told him several times of Kemoh's connection to drug traficking, he never acted
3. Manley (now arrested) was implicated by the SLP, and was briefly suspended. Only to be reinstated again by the Minister to the dismay of the SLP; EBK was fully briefed about this by SLP, and did nothing.
4. He allowed Kemoh to stay on far too long... probably to give him the opportunity to clean his cocaine behind.
5. Why would he lie or overplay foreign investigation asistance, and instruct the half-baked Zain Zain to publicly ridicle our poor country.
6. Why is he turning a blind eye on Kolonko Dada Serry Kamal's blatant interference with the investigation.
7. Where was he from on the fateful night? reports claim from gambia, some say from Benin. Why did he secretely leave on a state trip?
8 Why can't Kemoh be detained like everyone else?
Subject: Re: EBK : briefed on several occasions about APC's cocaine
From: Taveh Gutu
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Date Posted: 05:55:39 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Don't make yourself a political ass!
Subject: Re: EBK : briefed on several occasions about APC's cocaine
From: Nar u sabi
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Date Posted: 08:10:22 08/12/08 ()
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Nar U Sabi
Subject: Re: EBK : briefed on several occasions about APC's cocaine
From: JBK
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Date Posted: 06:09:04 08/12/08 ()
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It's more than a political ass, it madness with these SLPP fellows. It's like they find a reason to beatup on the APC for having their asses kicked during the last election.
This was supposed to be a great opportunity for them to show leadership. But oh God, they are very bitter and they can't help to show their frustration. This is why the APC will win the next election.
Subject: Re: EBK : briefed on several occasions about APC's cocaine
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 06:17:11 08/12/08 ()
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Did you show "leadership" while in opposition? Nope...
We will HIT you anytime you F--- up.
Subject: Re: EBK : briefed on several occasions about APC's cocaine
From: MUSA KAMARA
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Date Posted: 14:32:13 08/12/08 ()
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alieu foolman,SHUT-UP!You used a lot of monikers.
Subject: Re: APC's KEMOH SESAY WAS IN VENEZUELA-WHY?
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 05:05:39 08/12/08 ()
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Bo the whole APC is aware of this DRUG BIZNESS.. They used the proceeds to RUN their 07 Elections Campaign... Gave part of the money to PMDC-$500,000.00.
Subject: Re: APC's KEMOH SESAY WAS IN VENEZUELA-WHY?
From: Taveh Gutu
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Date Posted: 05:42:31 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Oh you sore losers! Stop fabricating bullcrap stories and move on!
Subject: A!! WANZA AGAIN!!!!!!???
From: Patriot
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Date Posted: 00:30:45 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: longhorn1978@live.com
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It is amazing to know that our current administration intends to pay Mohamed Wanza US$ 25,000,000.00 for a thrashed out gunboat. We thought our current leaders will be more nationalistic and patriotic in performing there duties but they are acting on the contrary by selling us and making bad decisions on our behalf. Pa Koroma don’t tell us you do not know how vulnerable Sierra Leone is in terms of security our airspace has been violated, there are reports of smuggling of basic commodities, ammunitions and fuels boats been intercepted at sea we need this boat but not at this cost China has already donated boats what we need at this moment is an Air force for your information a MIG 21 costs US$ 4.5m a piece, the Air force’s role will not only be limited to fighting but can also compliment the efforts of the Navy by chasing off intruder planes and boats. Salone man dem dis leh we nor left gi Wanza u nor go eat da money dae wit wellbodi Insha Allah, di money e nor go betteh you tae you die Insha Allah. We will fast and pray for this daylight pilfering of our money and all nationalistic Sierra Leoneans must join in this Campaign we have done it before we can still do it be you Muslim or Christian.
Patriot
Subject: Re: A!! WANZA AGAIN!!!!!!???
From: Wolop government
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Date Posted: 08:03:06 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: codfodnus@aol.com
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First of all who put our country in the mess? was it not the S.L.P.P government? Your government was not responsible, they borrow and not pay back.
Subject: Re: A!! WANZA AGAIN!!!!!!???
From: Patriot
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Date Posted: 10:50:46 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: longhorn1978@live.com
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Na ol up you dae call wolop basic krio u nor sabi talk forget APC en SLPP en think but salone una pas mark una dae spend we moni reckless wan
the moni na we all all yone
Subject: Re: A!! WANZA AGAIN!!!!!!???
From: sory kandia
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Date Posted: 12:43:13 08/12/08 ()
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Not only they are giving WANZA all this money,but they are asking FPU to pay duty for medical equipments which is donations for BO and KONO government hospitals,leaving sierra leoneans to suffer and a laughing stock to the world.I wonder where is the outrage, patriotism and love for mother salone.
Subject: Re: A!! WANZA AGAIN!!!!!!???
From: ak1
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Date Posted: 11:40:26 08/14/08 ()
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For some reason cocoriko is not given us any info about the cocoaine and the wanza stories.
Something is wrong.
Subject: Re: A!! WANZA AGAIN!!!!!!???
From: Plaba Bessie
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Date Posted: 09:50:03 08/12/08 ()
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Wanza sold that trashed out gunboat to NPRC. To their credit, SLPP refused to pay $20million for scrap metal and threw Wanza out of Sierra Leone and declared him persona non-grata for being a blood sucker.
Serry Kamal then helps reinstate his citizenship and then offered to pay him $25million. Something is not right.
President Obai should start bringing down his fist on old APC. They are distorting his message of attitudinal change and they are undermining him. Our party needs to get rid of old theives like Serry Kamal and all the other old guys. President Obai must provide leadership for our party by throwing those guys out of high profile places where they mess up all the time.
Subject: Re: A!! WANZA AGAIN!!!!!!???
From: dumbeh
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Date Posted: 10:42:02 08/14/08 ()
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kabbah was and berewa were the chief advisers of nprc. they probably got kickbacks from the wanza deal and then they treated him like a criminal.
Subject: Re: A!! WANZA AGAIN!!!!!!???
From: Patriot
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Date Posted: 08:28:21 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: longhorn1978@live.com
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Ar bin tell you say me na SLPP??? I seek the interest of Sierra Leone and not any political party!!!
Subject: Re: A!! WANZA AGAIN!!!!!!???
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 05:54:41 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: amkdirect@msn.com
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Message:
It is only right if someone is owed money, for them to be paid. This man wanza used his money to pay for gunship and other euipment ordered by the sierra leone government which he was contracted to do and it is only fair that he is paid for his supplies. Some of you should try to get the facts before writing absolute nonesense on issues you know nothing about.
Subject: Re: A!! WANZA AGAIN!!!!!!???
From: SLA
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Date Posted: 09:19:51 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: longhorn1978@live.com
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Its people like you Salone Boy who has contributed in the destruction of Sierra Leone you are f__cking stupid it was not a gunship you a__hole it was a gunboat
Ignorant fool!!!
Subject: CAUGHT BETWEEN SCIENCE AND RELIGION: MEET SIR NEWTON.
From: Charles Curtis-Thomas, SECHN, BSN, RN,MD (Hons.), MPH
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Date Posted: 22:46:05 08/11/08 ()
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As a Nurse and a Physician and, by definition, a scientist, I have often struggled with religion and science!
Science is based on what we humans can observe with our eyes and ears. Scientists examine nature carefully, keeping meticulous records of what they observe. The fact that humans have confirmed a particular fact through this process gives us great confidence in the conclusions of science. Thus, science becomes an authority that we trust to tell us the truth. We sometimes settle arguments with, “…but science says…!” That is using science as an authority.
We Christians also trust the Bible as an authority. It informs us of certain very important truths that we can learn from no other source. Without a doubt, the most important is the plan of Salvation that arises out of the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
There is a great difference, however, between the source of the Bible’s authority and that of science. We trust science as an authority because it’s based on human observation. On the other hand, we Christians understand that the Bible gains its authority from God. The words in the Bible are true and therefore authoritative because God “spoke” them. He revealed them. We support this conclusion with the texts of scr1pture such as Paul’s assertion that “all scr1pture is given by inspiration of God.”
So, then, it is obvious that no scientific test in the world could verify that God inspired the words we find in the Bible. So how can we know that He did? The answer is faith. We simply believe God spoke through the prophets who wrote the Bible.
The real problem (for me and other scientists) comes with ideas such as the “virgin birth of Christ and the resurrection from the dead”. The Bible affirms that these events did happen. Science says they are not scientifically possible.
…And suddenly I /we am/are confronted with a conflict between our two authorities. One says a particular idea is true; the other says it cannot be true. How do we decide which one is right? Some people solve the dilemma by claiming that the Bible is true when it speaks of spirituality and morality, and that science is true when it speaks of our human observation of the natural world. The two do not conflict, they say, because science cannot probe spirituality and morality, and the Bible cannot examine nature!
What about the issue of the resurrection? Science says that it is impossible, yet the Bible says that our eternal life depends on accepting Christ’s resurrection as a historical fact or event. Our assurance that the Bible’s statements are true MUST be based on faith, not observation. That is why the Bible says that faith is being “certain of things we cannot see or observe...” It is human nature to trust what we can see above what we cannot see.
I have very great respect for the authority of science. But when the conclusions of science conflict with scr1ptural statements that affect my eternal life, I will accept the authority of scr1pture over that of science!
Did I hear you say, “Does this mean we Christians must park our “scientific brains” at the door when we enter church?” My answer is NO. For a detail answer to this issue, please help me welcome to the podium someone who I admire very much, Sir Isaac Newton.
Ladies and Gentlemen, presenting Sir Isaac Newton!
This is no ordinary place. This is Westminster Abbey, England’s most famous Church.
Here England’s kings and queens and other notables have found their final resting places. Here is Charles Darwin’s grave. His evolutionary ideas have severely challenged many a person’s belief in God.
Paradoxically, just a few feet away lies another of my role model(“my boy”), SIR ISAAC NEWTON, considered by many to be the greatest scientist of all time, and also a man with great reverence for God. I often muse about the great disparity between the lives of these two world-renowned scientists, their relationships to God, and their contrasting legacies. Newton reflects a prowess that exemplifies how science and religion can work together; he was passionately dedicated to both God and good science.
Newton was born in England on Christmas Day in 1642. His father’s death three months earlier was one of several events that created a difficult childhood. Because of circumstances associated with his mother’s second marriage, Newton was reared mainly by relatives and friends. He loved books and showed an insatiable desire to improve all kinds of mechanical devices, such as kites and sundials. Newton had few friends and was not always well understood or appreciated. Described as being “never at rest,”(who knows, he might have been suffering from hyperthyroidism!) he tended to work very intensely on his various projects, sometimes forgetting to eat or sleep.
At Cambridge, Newton immediately distinguished himself and soon became a renowned faculty member, the “new kid on the block”, if you will. The novel kind of telescope he invented was received with great enthusiasm by scientists at the Royal Society of London. He sent the Royal Society thoroughly prepared documents about the properties of light and color that were likewise well appreciated. Being reticent to present his new ideas, he often waited years before releasing them. He published only a little of his work, but each was an imperishable monument to his genius.
It is probably inevitable that the arrival of a young, inexperienced but brilliant scientist should quickly draw criticism from the old guard. Several feuds continued for years, reaching international proportions. While Newton tended to avoid confrontation, and like me, he could be a formidable foe with those who felt free to evaluate his ideas but did not understand them.
Newton eventually published the results of some of his most important findings in the three-volume Principia. This work has been hailed as “perhaps the greatest event in the history of science---certainly the greatest till recent years.” Furthermore, “no living person could challenge its originality or power. Newton had become the admitted dictator of scientific thought, and there was no one able to cross sword with him.”
Principia is full of mathematical deductions about gravity, celestial mechanics, comets, the moon, tides, and associated laws. Its most significant contribution is the introduction of an unprecedented and high level of observational and mathematical rigor, dramatically improving respect for science. Principia also reveals some of his religious fervor as he concludes that “this most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the council and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being. This Being governs all things, not as the soul of the world, but as Lord over all.”
Many honors were bestowed on Newton. At Cambridge, his mathematical prowess won him the title of Lucasian Professor of Mathematics, an honor later held by famed cosmologist Stephen Hawking. During the last 24 years of his life, Newton was president of the Royal Society. The Academie des Sciences in France elected him as a Foreign Associate, and Queen Ann knighted him. There is very little doubt that Newton possessed one of the greatest minds of all time.
For me the most remarkable is that this premier scientist also had a profound devotion to God and a very deep interest in religious matters. At least a third of his voluminous writing deals with religious topics. Sometimes I feel as if I share a similar gene with this great man (note that I say this with incapacitating humility)! Newton was especially interested in Biblical prophecies, and he studied all available materials, whether written in Greek, Aramaic, Latin, or Hebrew. The relation of prophecies to history prompted him to prepare a manuscr1pt that was published shortly after his death under the title Chronologies of Ancient Kingdoms Amended.
Newton’s analytical approach is revealed in his series of 15 “Rules for interpreting the words and language in scr1pture.” A favorite topic was the two prophetic books of Daniel and Revelation. A few years after his death, these writings were published as the book Observations upon the Prophecies of Daniel and the Apocalypse of St. John. To Newton, the study of God’s nature were all part of his overwhelming desire to know God.
Newton’s religious fervor brought him many admirers. A renowned Frenchman tried to establish a Religion of Newton Church, and another Frenchman severely criticize England for not giving due respect to Newton’s divinity. In his view, the calendar should be changed to start with Newton’s birthday (I violently disagree with this because if that was carried out can you imagine how many great people would fight, literally, to have their birthdays on the calendar?), and a Church should be built in Newton’s birthplace (this makes more sense).
The scientific community has not followed Newton’s example in combining faith and science; instead it has followed Darwin. In Newton’s time, God was an integral part of science. Now many scientists still believe in God but exclude Him from scientific explanations. Today’s science is a secular worldview that tries to explain most of reality within a limited materialistic (mechanistic, naturalistic) outlook. In rejecting God, science has become a closed system, unwilling to find truth wherever scientific investigation may lead. Science cannot find God as long as it excludes Him. At present, science has replaced God as the creator with evolution, but science is finding very serious flaws with the theory.
Science indulges in all kinds of speculative ideas and does not seem to have a sound basis for excluding God because a lot of scientific data points to God. As was the case for Newton, science can be a study of the nature and the laws that God has created. Newton clearly demonstrated that one can be preeminent scientist and also include God in ones conclusions.
Ladies and Gentlemen,” my boy”, Sir Isaac Newton had it right; please join me then in giving Sir Isaac Newton a standing ovation!
Charles Curtis-Thomas, SECHN, Dip. Druggistry, BSN, RN, MD (Hons.), MPH (In Infectious Disease Epidemiology,& International Health) is a Sierra Leonean-born Physician residing in the USA. He is also the Director of the Center for Medical Education and Advancement, College Park, Maryland, USA. You can email him RNMDTWO@YAHOO.COM
CAUGHT BETWEEN SCIENCE AND RELIGION :PRESENTING SIR ISAAC NEWTON
Subject: Mr. SORIE JAWARA, THANK YOU! I AM BOTH HUMBLED AND HONORED
From: Charles Curtis-Thomas, SECHN, BSN, RN,MD (Hons.), MPH
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Date Posted: 22:32:32 08/11/08 ()
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Re: A GHANIAN REMEMBERS "OSAGYEFO" , Dr. KWAME NKRUMAH
Posted by SORIE Jawara on August 11, 2008 at 15:33:15:
In Reply to: Re: A GHANIAN REMEMBERS posted by Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas on August 11, 2008 at 10:31:43:
"DR. CURTIS THOMAS, You made a great posting and I believe it is a nice thing to remember leaders who were betrayed by their own people.The author made good points but grossly misled himself and others . C.I.A. confessions will give details about the betrayal, for financial help of $50m, Ghanian soldiers and intelletuals betrayed their leader..Kwame NKRUMAH. Nkrumah received good treatment in Guinea by Guineans and Sekou Turay, though Ghanians also decoded that as debt paid to Nkruma because he rescued Guinea from severe crisis after the french destroyed everything to ensuffer Guinea. Nkrumah was allowed to talk to Ghanians over radio and he took hours to get his message across to his people, but this posed a great threat to the NLC. Do you know Ghanians made several plots to kill Nkrumah in Guinea ? The Ghanians only came to understand the silly error when outsiders started writting about the good things Nkrumah did for Ghana. There is a lot to talk about the issue but more will be known as we move along. Thank you , you always bring in great issues, keep the good work."
Subject: Re: Mr. SORIE JAWARA, THANK YOU! I AM BOTH HUMBLED AND HONORED
From: SORIE Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 23:46:13 08/11/08 ()
Email Address: soriejawara@verizon.com
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DR. CURTIS , Thank you .I am making good use of your postings.The information you share with us are indeed helpful and they add good flavor to intellectual excercise. You have great things to share with us so please bring them out. Changes will be difficult if valid information are stored so that people will not know . Thank you.
Subject: forum and Newspaper are different entities
From: Dehunge
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Date Posted: 22:20:30 08/11/08 ()
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Ehen! Kabs it is great that you are making a distinction between the forum and the Newspaper. By that i also believe that you are taking responsibility for the boto bata that people like Essam Thaim Kurugba and Yamba Lawyer write on the paper. If you want this paper to be taken seriously please don't let boto bata in the paper just because it is pro APC. As the editor whether stuff appears under your bye line or not i hold you responsible if it is substandard. I love this paper and would hate to see it go down the drain. I believe the forum is the appropriate place for us to write our boto bata. I will like to hear from you Kabs.
Subject: Ex-Minister instructed me not to landing of plane
From: Nar true go last
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Date Posted: 20:13:36 08/11/08 ()
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Ex-Minister instructed me not to landing of plane….Airport GM testifies
Acting General Manager of the Lungi International Airport, John Brima has told Magistrate Court No.1A during the on-going cocaine trail that the ex-Minister of Transport and Aviation, Kemoh Sesay, instructed him not to allow landing to the cocaine plane which was reportedly hovering around the airport. Testifying as the third prosecuting witness according to New Vision, Mr. John Brima said when he received call about the unidentified plane from the control tower, he wasted no time in contacting the Permanent Secretary A.R Wurie who then advised him to inform the ex-Minister. Upon the instruction of the former Minister, explained, I ordered the control tower to put out the lights so as not to allow the plane to land. In spite of all these Mr. Brima said, the plane forcefully landed at the airport. He again informed the ex-Minister about the development and Mr. Kemoh Sesay hurriedly assembled top officials of his Ministry and security personnel to travel to Lungi. “We indeed met the plane at the airport and Minister Sesay ordered the plane to be searched” he stated. “We saw cartoons which were slightly bigger than a cartoon of beer wrapped with cello tapes marked 2007 together with a three axes, a funnel, a spare tyre and tool kits” he narrated to the court.
Subject: Re: Ex-Minister instructed me not to landing of plane
From: Same Story in AWT
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Date Posted: 21:32:41 08/11/08 ()
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Air Port GM Testifies in ‘Cocaine Plane’ Case in Sierra Leone
By Bintu A. Sesay
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As the cocaine plane matter progresses at the Magistrate Court No. 1A presided over by Magistrate Deen Tarawallie, the Acting General Manager of Freetown International Airport, Lungi, Mr. John Matthew Brima (PW3) on Friday 8th August 2008 testified before the court.
Led in prosecution by the Director of Public Prosecution (DPP) Robin Mason, Mr. Brima after explaining his role as an Acting General Manager in the airport, said he recalled the 13th July 2008, stating that he was waken by a phone call at about 1:30am of the said date. The caller, he continued, identified himself as one Mr. Tholly Bangura, a worker at the airport’s control tower. The said caller informed him that an unknown aircraft was flying over the premises of the airport. He further said the caller informed him that the aircraft does not have any landing permit and that the crew members of the aircraft were communicating in a language he could not understand.
Following this development, Mr. Brima told the court that he immediately contacted the Permanent Secretary in the Ministry of Transport and Aviation, Mr. A. R. Wurie, who was accordingly informed. Mr. Wurie, he said, advised him to call the then Transport and Aviation Minster, Ibrahim Kemoh Sesay which he hurriedly did.
“When I informed the then Minister about the issue, he asked me to instruct the control tower not to allow the said plane land as it had not obtained any landing permit,” Mr. Brima said. He then told the control tower not to allow the plane land as instructed by the minister and that the runway lights should not be switched on.
Afterwards, Mr. Brima then called the head of police security in the airport, Mr. Hazley who was also informed accordingly.
Mr. Brima was later informed by the control tower that the aircraft forcefully landed at the airport even with the runway lights off which information he relayed back to the minister in Freetown who instructed him to ensure that fire trucks and police vehicles were to be parked all around the plane to prevent it from taking off.
Mr. Brima informed the court that Kemoh Sesay within a short time, before even the break of dawn, personally flew from Freetown to Lungi on board a helicopter with a delegation that included the Deputy Director of Civil Aviation Mr. Tarawalie and Permanent Secretary Mr. Wurie. Brima, who joined the delegation at Lungi, said they all saw a white aircraft with a Red Cross emblem on its tail. The Minister, he continued, then ordered for the aircraft to be forcibly opened in the presence of armed security men. Upon forcing the plane open, the witness told the court that there was no-one in the plane but some packets marked “2007”, cartoons and empty petrol cans. The minister, he said, then ordered for the aircraft to be offloaded and for the preparation of a comprehensive list of said items.
He continued that he was at the scene until the morning hours when a team from the Office of National Security led by Abdulai Mustapha arrived there which was when he left for the Presidential Lounge where he stayed until the arrival of the President Ernest Koroma. According to Brima, on the President’s arrival from neighbouring Gambia, he was taken to the scene and shown the offloaded items.
After his testimony, he was then cross examined by Defense Lawyer Roland Wright. An application to grant the 10th accused person, Mohamed Sesay access to his computer and reading materials was once again upheld by Magistrate Deen Tarawallie as his last order granting such access was yet to be followed. The matter was adjourned to Friday 15th August.
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Subject: Re: Ex-Minister instructed me not to landing of plane
From: Plaba Bessie
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Date Posted: 20:45:37 08/11/08 ()
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This is such an idiotic account. Who would believe this nonsense. I think our party would do well to ban, bury, and dump the fall guy and move on from this scandal. All this show trial if prolonging the pain. Let us concentrate on better things.
Subject: Re: Ex-Minister instructed me not to landing of plane
From: zakmal
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Date Posted: 06:31:37 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
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You are quite right Plaba Bessie. This testimony is more than idiotic however,this is the end result of a compromised investigation. Documents and records were not properly secured and alleged an suspect was allowed to stay in power for three weeks.
Subject: Re: Ex-Minister instructed me not to landing of plane
From: CYNTHIA
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Date Posted: 20:42:14 08/11/08 ()
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Do you actually believe he is speaking the truth puhleaseeee.... this man is digging a big hole for himself. permanent sec tell hime to contact aviation minister bo go seddom. anyway i have one million in a box under my bed can you please send me your DOB, bank account number and mother's maiden name so you can keep the money safely for me. CYNTHIA@aol.com
Subject: ASSETS DECLARATION
From: Brabanxx
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Date Posted: 20:07:41 08/11/08 ()
Email Address: brabanxx@aol.com
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The president has finally submitted his declaration to the ACC. I hope all the other players will make their declarations also.
Subject: Re: ASSETS DECLARATION
From: Uman Lappa
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Date Posted: 21:03:18 08/11/08 ()
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Thanxx Brabanxx.
Jacob Kanu U yerri en?
Pa don declare een assets. We now expect senior civil servants (they are usually the most corrupt ones), SLPP opposition Alagbas (they are the government-in-waiting) and contract-chasing journalists (this will reduce the endemic blackmailing in that blasted group) to expose their assets. Oh what a thrill it will be to see John Benjamin and Co declare for us where they had squirrelled away all the chestnuts when SLPP held sway in Salone. I am not holding my breath though.
Subject: Bravo Prezo....I wonder what took him so long; any ideas UL?
From: Jacob Kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 04:55:11 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: jacob.kanu@yahoo.com
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Better late than never.
I can't help but think why dae paa took so long to take the lead in this major campaign promise. I heard they were counting the nails, tiles, light bulbs etc in the 2 properties.
One has to commend him nonetheless, but would hasten to add that all the 'iffy' kingpings that surround him like Alpha Kanu (Alhaji Abuja), Serry Kamal (Kolonko Dada), Kemoh Sesay (of Cocaine fame), Port Loko Mafia Pipul (MPs) et al must follow suit immediately.
Declaration of assets must (in future) be done by all who vie for high offices or are appointed to such. This must be doine before confirmation ... whether SLPP, APC, APFRC, etc.
I hear the VP is sweating badly right now. Should he declare the $1 M home in NJ? Was his Truck Driver job or Warehouse Manager position capable of footing such a bill? When was it acquired. How would he account for Cocaine earnings, if any?
Prezo yu don bos big hole, just ensure all surbordinates follw suit within a week... compliments! But knowing how weak you are, this will probably never happen. I really hope you prove me wrong this time.
Subject: Re: Bravo Prezo....I wonder what took him so long; any ideas
From: Taveh Gutu
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Date Posted: 05:47:32 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Swegbeh you nor go satisfy? You nor go blow? Nar pipul dem lek una make Salone day behen so.
Subject: Re: Bravo Prezo....I wonder what took him so long; any ideas
From: Den lek power
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Date Posted: 08:11:44 08/12/08 ()
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Den nor go blow, den nor care if salon bette or not. All den care about nar power. Well, bad new, e go tay before una smell nam. Go nar salon, u go believe watin ar say. Watin una pass for the past eleven years still fresh in Sierra Leonean mind. Way una don sedon naya for donkey of years nar that make una day labo plenty nonsense.
Subject: Bravo for waytin - EBK nar foolish leader - ee nor go able
From: Keen Observer
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Date Posted: 09:13:15 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: ksisay@yahoo.co.uk
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In only 10 months APC don make porto porto kaych fire. These gang of incompetent hustlers cannot even manage a small office. Here is some of what these useless guys have done to our poor nation. UNDP says we do not even qualify for last on the HD index anymore - we have dropped of the chart:
1. Rice and other essential commodity prices double in only 5 months (all this alaki gang go say .. nar wol bank)
2. Open Cocaine center nar we land; Cocaine NGO nar Port Loko; Cocaine consumption has tripled since alaki APC took power
3. Minister den dae piss nar plane en vomit nar highway
4. Nurse den nor dae get paid
5. Pay $25 Million lie lie debt to APC Lebanese sponsor
6. Violence and criminality is now the norm
7. Kolonko Daddy Serry Kamal regularly uses the infamous nolle prosequi for alaki dae contri more
8. Lock en open opposition radio
9. Flag holy pastor den, lek Man of God Conteh of Brookfields ( dae akeh nar im una don begin see so); beat NEC staff dem en burn election materials
10.Bring plenty 'hard ship' den nar we contri - tintrong tingranga
11. Interefere with student politics
12. Preach and practice tribalism (90% cabinet from north)
13. Reduced revenue generation, man den dae pocket gof'ment money (Swegbeh dem)
14. No more student grant, NPSE, BECE, & WASSCE fees paid. Alaki APC gof'ment dae take all gee Wansa for kickback
15. Rent light for Freetown en pay cow price. Suppliers will turn the rented light off in February - back to square 1; with $70 Million down the drains
16. Tie Anti-Corruption Commisioner een han wae Hafsatu Kabba tiff we light money; even Alaki Ojuku den all dae get protection
17. Take korpoh for do Kenema-Koindu road, gee lebanese man way supply poil poil boat dem
18. Bring back unoppose bisnez
19. Me han dae hart, leh a blow small...
Do you really think Sierra leoneans are stupid. Una go dae prepare for kill all man ooh... butI doubt if Agnes will not thgrow in the towel after another year of wretched performance
Subject: Re: Bravo Prezo....I wonder what took him so long; any ideas
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 08:39:05 08/12/08 ()
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A good move by El Presidente..
We applaud these kind of moves oh.. Obai..
Now it is left for that document be made public..
We should advocate for a Freedom of information act as soon as possible..
Subject: Re: ASSETS DECLARATION
From: Plaba Bessie
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Date Posted: 20:39:08 08/11/08 ()
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My ACC source says that the report is not true. You can cross-check with the ACC yourself.
President Koroma has not declared any assets.
Subject: Re: ASSETS DECLARATION
From: zakmal
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Date Posted: 20:21:11 08/11/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
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A move in the right direction.Bravo Mr President.
Subject: Re: ASSETS DECLARATION
From: ak1
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Date Posted: 21:46:14 08/11/08 ()
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Too late to declare, even if the it is done now, it is way too late. they have already taken what they wanted. SO now you are declaring what you just took from the poor. They should have declare before taken the office.
Subject: Re: ASSETS DECLARATION
From: Coconut heah
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Date Posted: 23:23:49 08/11/08 ()
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There's always going to be coconut heads like you.
Subject: Re: ASSETS DECLARATION
From: Not just coconut head
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Date Posted: 23:34:14 08/11/08 ()
Email Address: codfodnus@aol.com
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Not just coconut head, but hater. Den wan yah sorry
Subject: District Attorney ultimately decided not to retry him
From: The Truth
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Date Posted: 19:42:55 08/11/08 ()
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"The District Attorney ultimately decided not to retry him".
Embattled former building official Augustine Fallay wants his job back.
Fallay was hired by The City in 1991 as a planner and became a manager within the Department of Building Inspection, earning about $113,000 annually, court documents say, until the FBI built a case against him. Authorities accused him of bribery and he was subsequently prosecuted by the District Attorney’s Office.
Fallay was fired from his job in December 2005. A jury later acquitted Fallay on four charges and deadlocked on 29 other bribery and corruption allegations. The District Attorney ultimately decided not to retry him.
Duane Reno, an attorney for the International Federation of Professional and Technical Engineers Local 21, is representing Fallay in his efforts to regain employment with The City.
Reno said Fallay’s labor union contract permits a “just cause” firing, but such a decision is appealable through an arbitration process. Fallay is going though that process now with The City and a decision is expected within a month or two, Renosaid.
“[Fallay] is struggling to get by, trying to support his family, to get his job back at this point,” said Fallay’s attorney Andrew Zacks. — Joshua Sabatini
Subject: Re: District Attorney ultimately decided not to retry him
From: Owaii Osaiii
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Date Posted: 20:51:11 08/11/08 ()
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You can see that this decision was not taken because Boss Fallay was innocent. The man stole a lot of money and could have used some to bribe to get free. He used the same money to bribe to be elected SLPP NA President. All these things will come out. You just wait.
Subject: Re: District Attorney ultimately decided not to retry him
From: Silly Kamal
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Date Posted: 00:27:33 08/12/08 ()
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Yu fil se "nolle prosequi" dae na America? When the DA has a rap on you, he screws you. They had nuthin on da bro. . now di bro's suing them BIG TIME! - 30 MILLION BUCKS all donated to the SLPP 2012 campaign budget & the BRO a billionaire in leones & millionaire in dollars and with a JD, LLM from Cambridge and Kent. I say da bro shoulda look further & kick out the cocaine prez.
Subject: Former city official files $30M lawsuit
From: The Truth
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Date Posted: 19:41:41 08/11/08 ()
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Former city official files $30M lawsuit
Article History
Jul 29, 2008 6:00 AM (13 days ago) by Joshua Sabatini, The Examiner
» 13 days ago: Former city official files $30M
Filed under: SAN FRANCISCO , Joshua Sabatini , Augustine Fallay
SAN FRANCISCO (Map, News) - A former San Francisco building official who lost his job three years ago amid bribery allegations has filed a complaint for $30 million in damages against The City.
Augustine Fallay, who formerly oversaw the Department of Building Inspection’s one-stop permit plan, was arrested by federal agents in August 2005 after authorities raided the department’s offices on Mission Street during business hours.
Fallay was accused of taking bribes, among other charges, during a 12-year period. In June 2007, the District Attorney’s Office dropped its case against Fallay after a jury acquitted him on three counts of taking bribes from a construction contractor and one count of insurance fraud. The jury was deadlocked on 29 other bribery and corruption allegations.
Fallay, who was hired by The City in 1991, is now asking The City for his job back and has recently filed a complaint in U.S. District Court against The City, FBI agents, Assistant District Attorney David Pfeifer and other parties involved in bringing the criminal charges against him. The complaint alleges false arrest, malicious prosecution and three counts of violating his civil rights and it seeks $30 million in damages.
“The government ruined his life. It should come as no surprise to anyone that the government is being sued,” said Fallay’s attorney Andrew Zacks.
The complaint says that FBI agents retaliated against Fallay for not cooperating with them in 1999 when they sought his help, asking him to wear a recording device for a sting operation against then-Mayor Willie Brown, and then for another sting operation in 2005 against “city officials.” FBI agents had gone to Fallay “because he was black, but for no other reason,” according to the complaint. Brown was never indicted.
When Fallay refused FBI agents a second time in 2005, “[FBI agents David Carr and Bruce Whitten] began a pattern of abuse that included racially derogatory remarks, stereotypical comments, ridicule, and crude and crass ethnic jokes, and racial epithets,” the complaint says. On one occasion, the agents showed up at his home, detained him, and “when he insisted on exercising his rights, one of the agents brandished his firearm as a threat to silence him,” the complaint says.
Zacks said that while the complaint has been filed, the named defendants have yet to be served.
The case could go to trial within one year to two years, he added.
The FBI declined to comment.
jsabatini@sfexaminer.com
Subject: Re: Former city official files $30M lawsuit
From: Plaba Bessie
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Date Posted: 20:42:48 08/11/08 ()
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$30 MILLION? THAT'S A MASSIVE WAR CHEST TO HAVE IN SIERRA LEONE POLITICS
Subject: Re: Former city official files $30M lawsuit
From: Owaii Osaiii
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Date Posted: 20:34:56 08/11/08 ()
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O.J. Simpson and Mel Gibson did the same. That does not mean they were innocent. The American justice system is also very corrupt. If not, some of you would be in lock up right now.
Subject: Augustine Fallay was not completely exonerated.
From: Owaii Osaiii
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Date Posted: 19:15:01 08/11/08 ()
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I have read all your responses to my post. Do you guys know that Boss Fallay was not completely exonerated. If you don't believe, read this :
http://www.fogcityjournal.com/news_in_brief/lt_fallay_trial_verdict_070515.shtml
Subject: Re: Augustine Fallay was not completely exonerated.
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 19:53:17 08/11/08 ()
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maybe you should step back and take a look at yourself. You are slowly becoming that which we abhor in the APC. The man you revile is my friend and trust me when I say that the facts that you are stating are not entirely true. He was charged with crimes but was exonerated after a jury trial. Its over with. You shouldnt use that against him in a public forum because the only intent of the post and the reference is to denigrate his person and that is wrong.
You can have your turn at Gus fallay when the SLPP North America makes policies under his watch that are antithetical to the oneness of the nation. Then you may be justified to aggresively address the issue with him. Right now you are making yoruself look bad and by that extent all of us. So why dont you takle a chill pill and quit while you are ahead.
Subject: Re: Augustine Fallay was not completely exonerated.
From: Alpha Saidu Bangura
To: All
Date Posted: 22:15:18 08/11/08 ()
Email Address: saidubangso@aol.com
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Message:
Alieu, you must stop playing games because there is a God who will continue to punish you for all the wrong things, you do to people.
Stop destroying Mr.Fallay under fake names and try to defend him with your real name(after he brought your attention to your games, in a phone conversation between the two of you).
I, like a lot of other people in the forum know you very well( by name, by nature and by character), there is no way you will do able to hide from us.
I am happy you admitted to Mr.Fallay that you have being attacking people on this forum under fake names because it justifies what I have been telling a lot of people in this forum.
At age a little over 50, you need to stop acting in this manner, it does not show well to your kids.
Subject: Re: Augustine Fallay was not completely exonerated.
From: Shut up . you are also a thief
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Date Posted: 20:31:38 08/11/08 ()
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Shut up, Allieu, you are also a thief. Don't let me publish what the NEW PEOPLE unearthed about your crookish dealings. Just back off.
Subject: Re: Augustine Fallay was not completely exonerated.
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 20:48:18 08/11/08 ()
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I have never stolen anything from anyone and if the new people could have any proof of that they would have published that. Its sad that you have come to that conclusion based on the story from new people. As they say every dog has their day and one day some day soon New people would be forced to show proof that I have taken anything from someone. When that day comes would you be there to testify on their behalf?
The man you guys talk about Mr. Fallay is my friend and I have known him for many years. I think that the atack on his person ONLY because he has been elected chairman of the APC North America is flat out wrong. Now take that to the bank.
God Bless you
Subject: Re: Augustine Fallay was not completely exonerated.
From: Tamba Moiwo
To: All
Date Posted: 08:34:06 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: moiwo@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: gateway-303.energis.gsi.gov.uk at 62.25.109.196
Message:
"ONLY because he has been elected chairman of the APC North America"
Astafullah 1000 times.
Subject: Alieu, You Are Dead Wrong-----
From: Alpha Saidu Bangura
To: All
Date Posted: 10:16:49 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: saidubangso@aol.com
Entered From: c-69-140-129-105.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.140.129.105
Message:
Alieu,you need to stop denying the wrong things you did to Kadi Kamara of Arizona. I know that case very well and whenever you deny any wrong doing, you annoy me.Every thing you did in that case was criminal.
You were brought into the case by a fine Sierra Leonean in the bay area as a witness(Kadi does not know you).You promised Kadi that you will seek her interest in the case. All what you were asked to do was to go to Sierra Leone and get a deposition to help Kadi's lawyer.
When you went to Freetown, you demanded a total of about $13,000. When you came back to the USA, you went to Arizona and hijacked the case from Kadi's lawyer without informing her. You then imposed yourself as co-counsel. You went to court and messed up a good case.
The compensation of $250,000 was paid to Kadi's lawyer, but you took a huge amount of the money for your personal use without telling Kadi( you conspired with the other lawyer from the Islands to defraud your Sierra leonean sister). Alieu, that was most immoral and dead wrong. Your behavior is outside the code of conduct in your profession.
You also assured Kadi Kamara that you will win an appeal on the matter for her. Again you failed to do that. Above all, you found the greatest joy and pride in playing a clip of the case in your 50Th birthday party without telling Kadi. Tell us,how many sober minded lawyers will do that to thier clients.
With all degree of certainty, I put it to you that THE NEW PEOPLE newspaper has enough evidence to show and prove to a court that you acted wrong in that case. I hope and pray for the day you will take the case to court, I will be there to see you finally melt down.
Subject: Re: Alieu, You Are Dead Wrong-----
From: Alpha Joh Cham
To: All
Date Posted: 11:02:22 08/12/08 ()
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If you think you know so much why dont you call the bar Mr. Big mouth. Becareful what you pray for other people, you may end up getting it. Indeed Allah is most merciful most forgiving. We are tired of your personal attacks against Mr. Iscandari and his family. Why dont you get lost my friend. Just get lost no one will miss you. So if Mr. Iscandari files a lawsuit would you be ther Mr. Big mouth. Stupid ass
Subject: Re: Alieu, You Are Dead Wrong-----
From: Alpha Saidu Bangura
To: All
Date Posted: 12:21:07 08/14/08 ()
Email Address: saidubangso@aol.com
Entered From: c-69-140-129-105.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.140.129.105
Message:
Alpha Joh, With the greatest joy and pride I pump into your brains the fact that, I WILL NEVER RESPECT ALIEU AND HIS PARENTS( because they maliciously and falsely associated my good name with rebel activities). When ever I have the opportunity to disrespect them, I will do it loudly and clearly.
Since, you and Alieu belong to the same group of misguided and unbought up people, I will ignore your abusive language. I was not made of that material therefore I will not use the words you used( YOU AGENT OF SATAN).
I am sure you did not understand my last post on this matter, If you do you will not ask me the call the bar association to report Alieu. Rest assured that when the case between Alieu Iscandari and The New People Newspaper goes to court(if it will ever go)I will be there LIVE AND DIRECT. My happiest moment will be when I see Alieu finally melt down to teach him the lesson that he will not be involved in criminal activities and gets away with it.
Subject: Re: Augustine Fallay was not completely exonerated.
From: Alpha Saidu Bangura
To: All
Date Posted: 22:28:56 08/11/08 ()
Email Address: saidubangso@aol.com
Entered From: 68-246-47-48.area3.spcsdns.net at 68.246.47.48
Message:
Alieu, Mr. Augustine Fallay was elected national chairman of the SLPP in North America. It is a great insult for you to state that he was elected chairman of your group of criminals called APC. Please, correct your statement immediately.
Subject: Re: Augustine Fallay was not completely exonerated.
From: Observer
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Date Posted: 20:53:02 08/11/08 ()
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Birds of the same feather stick together. Is it because both of you are thieves ?
Subject: The SLPP passion for electing criminals as leaders
From: Concerned Citizen
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Date Posted: 19:06:03 08/11/08 ()
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SLPP is very, very rotten. The party has a passion for electing criminals as its leaders.
Ex-President Kabbah is a criminal who was banned by the NRC Government from ever holding public office. Kabbah , the criminal, was involved in crookish deals while he was Permanent Secretary of the Ministry of Trade and Industry. SLPP went and elected him their leader in 1996.
The SLPP Majority Leader in parliament, Hon. Momoh Pujeh , is a criminal. He stole diamonds and was caught with them. Kabbah and Pujeh bribed the Anti-Corruption Commission for Pujeh to go free.
The newly-elected SLPP North American President, Boss Fallay , is a first-class criminal. The fact that he was freed does not mean he was innocent .O.J.Simpson was freed but that does not mean that he did not kill Nicole Brown Simpson. The American Justice System is also corrupt.
SHAME ON SLPP. They have no moral authority to condemn the APC. Their leaders are always criminals.
Subject: Re: The SLPP passion for electing criminals as leaders
From: Jonathan T. Boima
To: All
Date Posted: 19:12:14 08/11/08 ()
Email Address: jtboima@aol.com
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Message:
You definitely have a point!
Subject: Re: The SLPP passion for electing criminals as leaders
From: Owaiii Osaiii
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Date Posted: 19:17:11 08/11/08 ()
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Sure.SLPP always elects crooks to lead them. They can't elect honest men because they don't believe in honesty.
Subject: APC will put SLPP in their right place ; You all just wait
From: Owaiii Osaiiii
To: All
Date Posted: 18:38:45 08/11/08 ()
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SLPP misbehaved on Ernest Koroma today at the stadium. You guys need not worry about this news. SLPP knows APC. They know what we did to them on the day the results were announced. They know what we did to them in Bo, Kenema and Kono. You all just wait . Soon, they will be the ones complaining. They know us. We have taken power from them for good. SLPP will never smell power in Sierra Leone again. You guys just wait.
Subject: Re: APC will put SLPP in their right place ; You all just wait
From: longhorn
To: All
Date Posted: 04:16:44 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: longhorn1978@live.com
Entered From: 213-165-36-138.zajoulnet.com at 213.165.36.138
Message:
Are you glorifying your past & present violence and thuggery????? tell us how do you intend to stay in power forever with bad decision making? we di piple we need answers.
Subject: Re: APC will put SLPP in their right place ; You all just wait
From: correction
To: All
Date Posted: 21:28:40 08/11/08 ()
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Message:
you forgot to add O'Cocaine
Owaiii Osaiiii OCocaine is the correct slogan
Subject: APC privatises criminal enterprise in Salone
From: Jacob Kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 18:13:33 08/11/08 ()
Email Address: jacob.kanu@yahoo.com
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“Free Lawyer, taking a bribe as a government employee or as a private man? I wouldn't like you to damn the issue, lets discuss.” APC Hassan KAMARA
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Private or Public, 419 is a crime & should be prosecuted and ACC should refer the matter to the criminal courts. Kolonko Daddy Serry Kamal, can then institute his infamous nolle prosequi tool to free Ojuku - a common APC thief, appointed by our useless President to represent our nation abroad. How will foreign INVESTORS ever take us seriously? Sometimes one wonders if EBK's IQ is higher than a fifth grader. Of the millions at his disposal, the idiot picks the lowlife Ojuku, to represent us in the UK of all places. I hope EBK is not on drugs, I mean Cocaine.
Is APC now legalizing 419 for so called private citizens? Or are they privatizing crime so that their corrupt and half-baked supporters can invest in it? Bo leh we stop this criminal bizness yah.
Are you saying it would be approriate if the Cocaine trafickers paid for Agnes’s election campaign ? In Kolonko dada's warped brain, he may argue that the weak EBK and they Cocaine fellas were private citizens at the time of the crime - so buff case. Hassan yu nar other useless unpatroitic fella - just like the masters you serve. Salone sweh no small ooh... ask Kemoh Cocaine Sesay & Bamabay Kamara (RIP). Apparently, Kemoh's waiste size has reduced from 36 to 32 in only one week. Guys are calling it the "APC diet regime".
Let me stick to the point Hassan, Kolonko Daddy Serry Kamal , is a con man himself and has no morals. Salone sweh go kaych dem one by one for all their diabolical crimes against the state and its people. For mortgaging our nation and encouraging criminality, I predict Kolonko Dada Kamal will have a massive stroke in 12 months - inshallah.
Subject: Re: APC privatises criminal enterprise in Salone-For Jacob
From: Hassan Kamara
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Date Posted: 22:36:51 08/11/08 ()
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Jacob,
If you know you cannot respond without usingg profanity, then refrain from responding to my post. I am too decent to use vulgar or profanity whether private or public and as such i will not join any one in such behavior. I want to tell you that i came from a home not a house.Once more if you cannot contribute in a decent manner please refrain from responding.
Hassan
Subject: Re: APC privatises criminal enterprise in Salone
From: zamal
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Date Posted: 20:15:32 08/11/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
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Well said brother. Mother Sa Lone has a way of paying back those who pilfer from her. Let's go down the list, Siaka Stevens, Kamara- Taylor,S.I. Koroma,J.S.Momoh,Valentine Strasser,Maada Bio. All of the aforementioned thought they had stolen enough for a lifetime. What ever happened to all their offsprings and all the properties they acquired during their tenure. Can someone please enlighten me in this regard.
The jury is still out on the previous regime. It seems however,that some in this government are hell bent in replenshing what they thought they had lost during their absence from power.
Subject: Is The Attorney General Of Sierra Leone A Lone Ranger Minist
From: Neville The Man
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Date Posted: 17:45:40 08/11/08 ()
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Standard Times
Is The Attorney General Of Sierra Leone A Lone Ranger Minister?
Posted by on Aug 11, 2008, 17:37
By Phillip Neville
The current Attorney General and Minister of Justice is a fairly independent minded individual. Fortunately for him, the 1991 constitution grants him the authority to make independent legal decisions. Of course, the Attorney General and Minister of Justice appears to have taken the authority ceded to him by the 1991 constitution to heart by making very unpopular politically sensitive decisions irrespective of the identified national interest and team oriented vision of His Excellency President Ernest Bai Koroma.
Mr. Solomon Ekuma Berewa, who was the Attorney General and Minister of Justice from 1996 to 2002, supported the vision of his President, Alhaji Dr. Ahmad Tejan Kabbah in all areas of national interest. Mr. Berewa fully supported former President Kabbah’s call for national cohesion through reconciliation, peace, safety, security and stability. He worked with his President to dismiss the former Minister of Agriculture, Dr. Harry Will.
Unlike Mr. Solomon Ekuma Berewa, President Koroma has in his cabinet, an alleged lone ranger as the Attorney General and Minister of Justice. This is a rather sad dilemma that is confronting a President whose vision for a fair and just society is perceived to be diametrically opposed to the lone ranger Attorney General understanding of a fair and just society.
The cocaine episode dubbed “conspiracy” for now, has netted in 19 individuals with the suspended Transport and Aviation Minister being invited to make a statement on the airplane landing.
However, it has been reported that, “with orders from above”, the lone ranger Attorney General is alleged to have directed the investigators not to subject Hon Kemoh Sesay to the ordeal of making a caution statement. Hon. Kemoh Sesay was to be allowed to make a voluntary statement even though he is a not a complainant in the matter. With the same “orders from above”, it is further alleged that the Attorney General again directed that Hon. Kemoh Sesay should be allowed to post bail.
The public has vehemently expressed dissatisfaction because they have sensed a disparity in the treatment of those who are believed to have either participated directly in damaging the airport perimeter fence or created the supportive environment that would have caused the airport perimeter fence to be damaged. All of the above are alleged to have some relationship to the unauthorized landing of a plane loaded with 700kg of cocaine. There were also some lethal weapons on board the same airplane. It is, therefore, perceived by a significant number of reasonable Sierra Leoneans that the lone ranger Attorney General is practicing the most profound and blatant form of selective justice, a situation that has the potential to undermine the stability and security of the state.
In case the lone ranger Attorney General is not aware, His Excellency the President was confronted with some serious embarrassment in both Bo and Kenema over the past weekend. Citizens demonstrated for President Koroma to treat the cocaine incident with the utmost seriousness. The demonstrators even alleged that the All Peoples Congress (APC) is responsible and orchestrated the trafficking of drugs in and through Sierra Leone. Neither President Koroma nor the government and people of Sierra Leone deserve the stain of cocaine.
Even though Sierra Leone is a microstate she has her own fair share of people with the “PULL HIM/HER DOWN” (PHD) certificate.
The tongues of some of these people have started wagging about the Attorney General’s previous persistent legal battle with President Koroma, a fight that almost destroyed the APC. Again there is a growing perception that the Attorney General’s seeming uncooperative behaviour towards His Excellency is an attempt by him to undermine the Presidents looming stature and popularity. Is it true as has been alleged that the Attorney General once made disparaging comments about President Koroma’s portrait in his office? As indicated earlier, Sierra Leone is a very small country where every so called best friend has his and /or his own best friend who may not necessarily be the best friend of the originator of the statement.
There is, also, widespread speculation that Hon Kemoh Sesay was allegedly accumulating his millions of dollars in order to challenge President Koroma for the leadership of the APC against the 2012 Presidential election. This allegation is the manifestation of vaulting ambition at best.
Incidentally, drug barons usually like to operate in countries where their own person is the undisputed leader/commander in chief. The anticipated benefits will, by far, outweigh the costs associated with achieving their goal of having a friend of the syndicate as President. Indeed, Guinea Bissau has been literally destroyed as a sovereign state because of the influx of drugs and drug money into that country. Sierra Leone can do without that.
Finally, it is highly recommended that all suspects be treated in the same way. They are suspects because, they, allegedly, have done something for which they are being called upon to make statements about to the police. There should be no interference from anybody or preferential treatment giving to anyone
Subject: THE LORD CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE UK ON SHARIA LAW IN THE UK.
From: Mohamed Kutubu Koroma
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Date Posted: 17:32:46 08/11/08 ()
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THE RULE OF LAW:
ARE THE LORD CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE UK AND WALES AND THE ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY AND YORK OUT OF THEIR MINDS?
The Archbishop of Canterbury and York Dr.Rowan Williams an extremely liberal theologian and His Lordship Justice Philips,the Lord chief Justice of the UK and Wales recently proposed the use of “SHARIA LAWS”to resolve disputes among Muslims all throughout the United Kingdom.
The question I have for both gentlemen begs to know whether they are out of their minds or on some crack cocaine in this age of terrorism and domestic violence against women and children to make such proposition?
To say I am shocked that Britain of all can conceive of such irresponsible notion in the history of English jurisprudence based on the famous Magna Carter conveys nothing because I have still not sufficiently recovered from the effects of such pronouncements.
People like Justice Philips will never make it on the Federal court in the USA for those kinds of ultraliberal views let alone the Supreme Court.
Mohamed Kutubu Koroma,
USA.
Subject: Re: THE LORD CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE UK ON SHARIA LAW IN THE UK.
From: zakmal
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Date Posted: 20:29:36 08/11/08 ()
Email Address: columbusw@gmail.com
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MKK all I can muster at this time describing these two individuals is "the enemy within".
Subject: Re: THE LORD CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE UK ON SHARIA LAW IN THE UK.
From: SORIE Jawaras
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Date Posted: 01:25:44 08/12/08 ()
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Mr. Koroma, don't be surprised because the early British court system allowed it. The Bible,Quran and AXE were the instruments of oath .Queens were beheaded and thieves were amputated. Some punishments were carried out as per muslim laws .
Subject: ERNEST IS BLESSING TO SIERRA LEONE
From: SALIFU PAPAH
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Date Posted: 17:15:06 08/11/08 ()
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I am always wondering what type of man is our presidnet.( Dr Ernest Bai Koroma)His love to the people of This country keeps on multiplying day in and out. Since he came to governance, The whole nation has begining to get hope and joy once more.Most people in street of freetown if interviewed will tell you that they just like him naturally.He has a very perfect stateman's character, I can't believe to see with eyes today older people and other dancing under a heavy down pour of rain. This realy ammazing.
Subject: Former president Kabbah...What a "clever critical Man?
From: SORIE Jawara
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Date Posted: 17:15:02 08/11/08 ()
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Wrong doers always establish holes and use them if needed for escapism. Certainly , it is left with the receivers to decode a message received. Former president Kabbah is a clever critical person , but not many people saw him that way on critical issues. Here is a statement he made during one interview with a journalist: "Well,those who committed crime and violently attacked Sierra Leoneans in their country, I would ask that they come out honestly and apologize". Who are the evil persons in this case? Is this not superb corruption and gross insult? However, such silly reckless conduct was approved, it passed the test and it is part of S.L.P.P('S) , SUPER INTEGRITY. During the same interview ,the former president said he was pushed into the so called politics. Who is telling the truth? Judgement day is coming ,though I do not know the date , and the truth shall be known.
Subject: Re: Former president Kabbah...What a "clever critical Man?
From: adu conteh
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Date Posted: 17:50:13 08/11/08 ()
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President kabba is very dishonest man, have you ever heard any head of state says he was forced to be a politician? The guy is shifty and selfish.
Subject: Re: Former president Kabbah...What a "clever critical Man?
From: Winston Adu Two Brains Jarrama Conteh
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Date Posted: 17:52:17 08/11/08 ()
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Just like how Winston Kabia is a very dishonest man. He uses handles like adu Conteh, two brains, dunia, Jarrama, Bobsonmans to attack other people. You are a disgrace
Subject: Re: Former president Kabbah...What a "clever critical Man?
From: adu conteh
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Date Posted: 18:13:00 08/11/08 ()
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You can call me what you like, but can you tell me anywhere in the world where a head of state says he was forced him to be a politician?
Subject: VP Sumana Involved in Corruption
From: Justice Jones
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Date Posted: 16:24:06 08/11/08 ()
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AWOKO News
Think Tank
VP Sam-Sumana, I care for you
Umaru Fofana
Like Vice President Samuel Sam-Sumana, I was born in Kono district. Like him, I attended the Jaiama Secondary School. Like him, I am close to the Turays, the family he is married into. But unlike him, I am not a politician; hence not Vice President of Sierra Leone. I am not even qualified to so be in view of my age.
But if I were, unlike Sam-Sumana, I would not be doing business which in the remotest involves state resources. If I had been a businessman (especially involving diamond, gold and timber) before becoming the country’s second most senior citizen I would have absolutely nothing to do with it any more.
By some interesting coincidence, or may be not, no vice president has ever succeeded his boss as president in Sierra Leone. It is like that strange coincide that the country’s last three ministers of transport have left office under bizarre circumstances. Today it is Kemoh Sesay who is out of his office under equally serious circumstances.
Remember Dr Prince Harding who was suspended and arrested by the police on the orders of the Anti Corruption Commission on allegations of taking a bribe from the management of Paramount Airlines after one of whose fleet crashed killing over a dozen Togolese football fans? Or Momoh Pujeh over the alleged illegal mining of diamonds in a manner not befitting a government minister? He was arrested on the orders of the Ant Corruption Commission and tried, and the rest, as we say, is history.
Well it is that aspect of the allegations against Momoh Pujeh that I want to bring to the attention of Vice President Samuel Sam Sumana.
During the last Tree Planting Day, illegal logging in Sierra Leone occupied centre stage. One of the biggest culprits environmentalists cited was one Taakor Tropical Hardwoods which I understand from reliable sources is registered and largely still being run by the vice president. The company is said to be casing serious deforestation in parts of Kono district. Even though the VP has denied involvement, several researches point to the contrary.
His name has also featured very prominently in mining activities or concessions in Kono. Rightly or wrongly, it is hard to see how smoke emanates without fire. Why are there not similar allegations against other people who hail from diamondiferous areas or forests? After all it did not take a court conviction for President Kabbah to replace Dr Joe Demby for alleged impropriety. We know the constitution provides stiff conditions for the removal of a vice president, the same for a president. Mud on a white shirt, either self-pasted or not, is hard to wash off on a desert. It took much longer time, at least over one year in office, for Dr Demby’s name to be associated with allegations of sleaze. And one could hardly notice any grimace on the faces of people when he was replaced, save for those who benefited from him, may be selfishly.
Dr Demby was far much stronger within the SLPP than Sam-Sumana is in the APC. Dr Demby had far larger following in his home district and added to Kabbah’s votes by far, than Sam-Sumana did to Ernest Bai Koroma’s votes during his bid. If anything, that praise belongs to Kumba Konomanyi. He was a political nonentity. If anything that should make him be more careful in his dealings and with some of those he deals with.
You might not have heard of this but on Wednesday this week, a light aircraft landed at the disused Yengema airfield; some five miles from Bumpeh, where I was born. Senior police officers told me that normally, they would be informed before any aircraft would land there both for the security of the state, but also for the safety of the aircraft and its passengers.
The aircraft, piloted by one James Scot, a British national, had as its passengers four people among them one Ramez Hassan, a Lebanese national I am informed. A vehicle with registration number VIP 001 came and took them away. My sources in Kono tell me that the only such car they know of belongs to Kassim Basma. I could not get Kassim despite several tries I made, to get his explanation.
Anyway, it turned out that some newly-posted Mines Monitoring Officers to the district got wind of the aircraft and arrived on the scene insisting that they should search it. Money allegedly changed hands, although my police sources say the MMOs said they were indeed given money but they returned it.
In any case, the aircraft could not be searched by the 6 or 7 MMOs because a police officer sent to the airfield by Kassim Basma, allegedly intervened. At the time all of this was happening, the police “big men” were at Simbakoro, some ten miles or so away, attending the commissioning of a multipurpose mess for the military. By the time they got wind of the landing of the aircraft, it had “hurriedly flown out of the airfield”.
My police sources told me that when they pressed on with their investigations, a call from the Vice President or his office, they sounded hesitant and extra-careful, said the VP was aware of the trip and that there was “nothing to worry about”. Because I care so much for my vice president, I wish to admonish him that associating himself with such suspicious things, if he did do it, can only irredeemably tarnish his image further.
As vice president, getting yourself involved in such, no matter the degree of involvement, can only lead to conflict of interests. If a minister, David Blunkett could be forced to resign over simply asking for the visa application file of his girlfriend’s nanny, how about one who asks for or even gives concessions to mining and other companies?
I keep repeating that I cannot ascertain the veracity of some of the rumours doing the rounds about my fellow old boy of JSS, but my knowledge of the way things happen in this country, in case he has been away too long to remember, is that once the rumours start being peddled, they will be bought because they are most times true.
Mr Sam-Sumana may argue that before becoming vice president he had several business holdings. The point is, he must have nothing to do in his official capacity to influence anything in favour of those business holdings. If he does that and that does not constitute corruption, I wonder what else does. Using one’s public office for influence which otherwise could not be gained is contrary to law. I hope you take this in good faith.
By Umaru Fofana
Subject: Re: VP Sumana Involved in Corruption
From: Taveh Gutu
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Date Posted: 00:00:53 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Paddy Umaru this is your chance to make it! First step is to start the bootlicking business with the VP.....you know what I mean. And by the time you start the second step which is ass kissing....it is BINGO! Sonny boy you have made it in just six months! Follow my advice and use your pen the right way as the time dictates.
Remember NAPCO's slogan? YOU WAN BETTEH PLANT GRANAT!
Subject: Re: VP Sumana Involved in Corruption
From: sO WHAT
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Date Posted: 19:09:13 08/11/08 ()
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And so what???Afterall he is the Vice President of Republic of Salone.